I would hope that the mere suggestion that something is bad for us would cause us to change and embrace the light!I don't think anyone is judging another, but when an ordained prophet of the lord stands up in general conference and advises us to do something, I would hope we would have the nature to follow, however minute that may be.
Whatever, I guess you will need something to practice shooting at when it all goes down. Bob, when Christ comes again, do you plan on sharing a coke with him?bobhenstra wrote:When I told a past bishop that I had a years supply of diet coke, he ask me "do you know what blackmail is?" I was taken aback, what? I muttered. He explains, when the rest of the ward finds out you've a years supply of coke, what do you suppose will happen? Then he adds, "now, if your willing to share with me,--- no one else will find out-----
I told him to get his own, my years supply was protected by a big gun! actually I have 366 cans, I found it pretty difficult to store .24219878th of a can---but I thunk on it---
Bob
Coke is bad, that's why I drink PepsiJan333 wrote:Don't know how true it is, but I heard Coke also has fluoride in it which contributes to fluoride overload from water we drink, toothpaste, dental treatments, plus canned foods prepared with tap water. In some people fluoride causes hypothyroid with a host of symptoms, including fatigue, weight gain, depression, blood sugar problems,etc. Fluoride is a poison, an industrial waste. Add negative effects of aspartame or high fructose corn syrup, caffeine, carbonation effects, phosphoric acid ( hard water film remover) you get a pretty potent number of reasons why not to consume Coke. There are worse things you can do, but why pollute your already stressed self with an unnecessary stressor like Coke? Some one out there is getting rich off of your insistence on choosing to drink Coke. Just a few thoughts...
It's funny you should mention the thyroid thing. Sixgunsue has been giving me some similar info about that. I've got about 15 pounds to drop and despite lots of exercise and slowly dropping my calorie intake down, I couldn't get it off - even when I went down to 1000 calories a day. So about six weeks ago I dumped my Dr. Pepper habit, and since getting rid of the caffeine I am finally dropping weight. I've wondered if I would see more results by losing the fluoride - so that's next on my agenda.Jan333 wrote:Don't know how true it is, but I heard Coke also has fluoride in it which contributes to fluoride overload from water we drink, toothpaste, dental treatments, plus canned foods prepared with tap water. In some people fluoride causes hypothyroid with a host of symptoms, including fatigue, weight gain, depression, blood sugar problems,etc. Fluoride is a poison, an industrial waste. Add negative effects of aspartame or high fructose corn syrup, caffeine, carbonation effects, phosphoric acid ( hard water film remover) you get a pretty potent number of reasons why not to consume Coke. There are worse things you can do, but why pollute your already stressed self with an unnecessary stressor like Coke? Some one out there is getting rich off of your insistence on choosing to drink Coke. Just a few thoughts...
Nearly everything has fluoride in it. 70% of the municipal water in the US has fluoride added to it. Not just any fluoride but specifically Fluorosilicic Acid which is a carcinogenic industrial waste byproduct from the fertilizer industry out of Florida. Google it!Jan333 wrote:Don't know how true it is, but I heard Coke also has fluoride in it which contributes to fluoride overload from water we drink, toothpaste, dental treatments, plus canned foods prepared with tap water. In some people fluoride causes hypothyroid with a host of symptoms, including fatigue, weight gain, depression, blood sugar problems,etc. Fluoride is a poison, an industrial waste. Add negative effects of aspartame or high fructose corn syrup, caffeine, carbonation effects, phosphoric acid ( hard water film remover) you get a pretty potent number of reasons why not to consume Coke. There are worse things you can do, but why pollute your already stressed self with an unnecessary stressor like Coke? Some one out there is getting rich off of your insistence on choosing to drink Coke. Just a few thoughts...
Thanks for the laugh!bobhenstra wrote:I think Asks; "Bob, when Christ comes again, do you plan on sharing a coke with him?"
I'm absolutely positive-- it'll all be gone by then-----------
Bob
AussieOi wrote:the word of wisdom is a blessing in my life
3 or so versus of what to avoid
7+ verses of healthy living ideals
in 20 years never has the sunday school lesson on it spent less than 40 minutes on the not, and more than 5 minutes on the throw in at the end, what to
http://en.fairmormon.org/Was_Jesus_Chri ... :_The_SeerHarold B. Lee was emphatic that only one person can speak for the Church:
All over the Church you're being asked this: "What does the Church think about this or that?" Have you ever heard anybody ask that question? "What does the Church think about the civil rights legislation?" "What do they think about the war?" "What do they think about drinking Coca-Cola or Sanka coffee?" Did you ever hear that? "What do they think about the Democratic Party or ticket or the Republican ticket?" Did you ever hear that? "How should we vote in this forthcoming election?" Now, with most all of those questions, if you answer them, you're going to be in trouble. Most all of them. Now, it's the smart man that will say, "There's only one man in this church that speaks for the Church, and I'm not that one man."
I think nothing could get you into deep waterquicker than to answer people on these things, when they say, "What does the Church think?" and you want to be smart, so you try to answer what the Church's policy is. Well, you're not the one to make the policies for the Church. You just remember what the Apostle Paul wrote to the Corinthians. He said, "For I determined not to know any thing among you, save Jesus Christ, and him crucified" (1 Corinthians 2:2). Well now, as teachers of our youth, you're not supposed to know anything except Jesus Christ and Him crucified. On that subject you're expected to be an expert. You're expected to know your subject. You're expected to have a testimony. And in that you'll have great strength. If the President of the Church has not declared the position of the Church, then you shouldn't go shopping for the answer. (Harold B. Lee, Teachings of Harold B. Lee (Salt Lake City, Utah: Bookcraft, 1996}, 445. ISBN 1570082340. GospeLink)
This was recently reiterated by the First Presidency (who now approves all statements published on the Church's official website):
Not every statement made by a Church leader, past or present, necessarily constitutes doctrine. A single statement made by a single leader on a single occasion often represents a personal, though well-considered, opinion, but is not meant to be officially binding for the whole Church. With divine inspiration, the First Presidency...and the Quorum of the Twelve Apostles...counsel together to establish doctrine that is consistently proclaimed in official Church publications. This doctrine resides in the four “standard works” of scripture (the Holy Bible, the Book of Mormon, the Doctrine and Covenants and the Pearl of Great Price), official declarations and proclamations, and the Articles of Faith. Isolated statements are often taken out of context, leaving their original meaning distorted.
—LDS Newsroom, "Approaching Mormon Doctrine," lds.org (4 May 2007) off-site]
(For further discussion of this principle see: FAIR wiki article: Official Church doctrine and statements by Church leaders.)
Gone!? From shooting, or drinking?bobhenstra wrote:I think Asks; "Bob, when Christ comes again, do you plan on sharing a coke with him?"
I'm absolutely positive-- it'll all be gone by then-----------
Bob
I find it interesting that they say certain things said by the Brethren are not binding upon the members. I tend to agree, unless it fits D&C 107 criteria. But at the same time, if it is true, it should not matter if it was said by a GA acting outside the perimeters. Doesn't it go back to not being commanded in all things? If it is true, and we do nothing about it, aren't we going to be held accountable? I don't think the Lord is going to really except, "It wasn't in the scriptures not to smoke crack" as a good enough reason not to act.Jason wrote:http://en.fairmormon.org/Was_Jesus_Chri ... :_The_SeerHarold B. Lee was emphatic that only one person can speak for the Church:
All over the Church you're being asked this: "What does the Church think about this or that?" Have you ever heard anybody ask that question? "What does the Church think about the civil rights legislation?" "What do they think about the war?" "What do they think about drinking Coca-Cola or Sanka coffee?" Did you ever hear that? "What do they think about the Democratic Party or ticket or the Republican ticket?" Did you ever hear that? "How should we vote in this forthcoming election?" Now, with most all of those questions, if you answer them, you're going to be in trouble. Most all of them. Now, it's the smart man that will say, "There's only one man in this church that speaks for the Church, and I'm not that one man."
I think nothing could get you into deep waterquicker than to answer people on these things, when they say, "What does the Church think?" and you want to be smart, so you try to answer what the Church's policy is. Well, you're not the one to make the policies for the Church. You just remember what the Apostle Paul wrote to the Corinthians. He said, "For I determined not to know any thing among you, save Jesus Christ, and him crucified" (1 Corinthians 2:2). Well now, as teachers of our youth, you're not supposed to know anything except Jesus Christ and Him crucified. On that subject you're expected to be an expert. You're expected to know your subject. You're expected to have a testimony. And in that you'll have great strength. If the President of the Church has not declared the position of the Church, then you shouldn't go shopping for the answer. (Harold B. Lee, Teachings of Harold B. Lee (Salt Lake City, Utah: Bookcraft, 1996}, 445. ISBN 1570082340. GospeLink)
This was recently reiterated by the First Presidency (who now approves all statements published on the Church's official website):
Not every statement made by a Church leader, past or present, necessarily constitutes doctrine. A single statement made by a single leader on a single occasion often represents a personal, though well-considered, opinion, but is not meant to be officially binding for the whole Church. With divine inspiration, the First Presidency...and the Quorum of the Twelve Apostles...counsel together to establish doctrine that is consistently proclaimed in official Church publications. This doctrine resides in the four “standard works” of scripture (the Holy Bible, the Book of Mormon, the Doctrine and Covenants and the Pearl of Great Price), official declarations and proclamations, and the Articles of Faith. Isolated statements are often taken out of context, leaving their original meaning distorted.
—LDS Newsroom, "Approaching Mormon Doctrine," lds.org (4 May 2007) off-site]
(For further discussion of this principle see: FAIR wiki article: Official Church doctrine and statements by Church leaders.)
I tend to believe its all a personal matter between oneself and the Lord. Then let the cards shake out where they will. Obviously if I find myself at odds with the Lord's anointed...then I better be fasting and praying to the extent of my abilities. But at the end of the day, I will be the one who accounts for my actions....and if I've done my best to build the relationship with all that entails...it shouldn't be an issue. I am the constraint in the relationship.Mahonri wrote:I find it interesting that they say certain things said by the Brethren are not binding upon the members. I tend to agree, unless it fits D&C 107 criteria. But at the same time, if it is true, it should not matter if it was said by a GA acting outside the perimeters. Doesn't it go back to not being commanded in all things? If it is true, and we do nothing about it, aren't we going to be held accountable? I don't think the Lord is going to really except, "It wasn't in the scriptures not to smoke crack" as a good enough reason not to act.Jason wrote:http://en.fairmormon.org/Was_Jesus_Chri ... :_The_SeerHarold B. Lee was emphatic that only one person can speak for the Church:
All over the Church you're being asked this: "What does the Church think about this or that?" Have you ever heard anybody ask that question? "What does the Church think about the civil rights legislation?" "What do they think about the war?" "What do they think about drinking Coca-Cola or Sanka coffee?" Did you ever hear that? "What do they think about the Democratic Party or ticket or the Republican ticket?" Did you ever hear that? "How should we vote in this forthcoming election?" Now, with most all of those questions, if you answer them, you're going to be in trouble. Most all of them. Now, it's the smart man that will say, "There's only one man in this church that speaks for the Church, and I'm not that one man."
I think nothing could get you into deep waterquicker than to answer people on these things, when they say, "What does the Church think?" and you want to be smart, so you try to answer what the Church's policy is. Well, you're not the one to make the policies for the Church. You just remember what the Apostle Paul wrote to the Corinthians. He said, "For I determined not to know any thing among you, save Jesus Christ, and him crucified" (1 Corinthians 2:2). Well now, as teachers of our youth, you're not supposed to know anything except Jesus Christ and Him crucified. On that subject you're expected to be an expert. You're expected to know your subject. You're expected to have a testimony. And in that you'll have great strength. If the President of the Church has not declared the position of the Church, then you shouldn't go shopping for the answer. (Harold B. Lee, Teachings of Harold B. Lee (Salt Lake City, Utah: Bookcraft, 1996}, 445. ISBN 1570082340. GospeLink)
This was recently reiterated by the First Presidency (who now approves all statements published on the Church's official website):
Not every statement made by a Church leader, past or present, necessarily constitutes doctrine. A single statement made by a single leader on a single occasion often represents a personal, though well-considered, opinion, but is not meant to be officially binding for the whole Church. With divine inspiration, the First Presidency...and the Quorum of the Twelve Apostles...counsel together to establish doctrine that is consistently proclaimed in official Church publications. This doctrine resides in the four “standard works” of scripture (the Holy Bible, the Book of Mormon, the Doctrine and Covenants and the Pearl of Great Price), official declarations and proclamations, and the Articles of Faith. Isolated statements are often taken out of context, leaving their original meaning distorted.
—LDS Newsroom, "Approaching Mormon Doctrine," lds.org (4 May 2007) off-site]
(For further discussion of this principle see: FAIR wiki article: Official Church doctrine and statements by Church leaders.)
5 stage reverse osmosis filter systemarmedtotheteeth wrote:Jan,
Where can I get fluoride free water?
That would be a negative ghost rider! At least to my knowledge...armedtotheteeth wrote:Ouch! PriceY!!! is there any bottled H2O?
I'm not sure where you live, but I posted earlier that most if not all cities in cache valley (God's countryarmedtotheteeth wrote:Ouch! PriceY!!! is there any bottled H2O?
) avoid adding fluoride. Just find a city in your area that doesn't add fluoride, then bottle it. I understand Aqua Vista doesn't add chemicals to their spring water. Check them out.
