Our marriage covenant

[Bronco73idi]

Our marriage covenant with the lord, ie the everlasting covenant.

In my opinion;

The Lord makes this covenant with a patriarch, a man who judges and protects his house, community, nation with righteous love.

These patriarchs lead nations and people.

Can the Lord marry a single man or woman? Nay, there would be no people, they would die off eventually.

What is the sole purpose of his Father’s work?

Can he marry a man who wishes to be a patriarch, and then doesn’t have kids?

As Jesus said to the Sadducees he becomes “like an angel”. Or he becomes cursed like the servant who buried his talent, kikkar. I think that depends on if God made him barren or if he chose to bury his talent.

The Bible talks about the marriage covenant all the time, it talks about it like the reader should know about it and if the reader doesn’t know, then a lot of it might be hard to understand.

Two of my favorite

Jeremiah 3
6 The Lord said also unto me in the days of Josiah the king, Hast thou seen that which backsliding Israel hath done? she is gone up upon every high mountain and under every green tree, and there hath played the harlot.
7 And I said after she had done all these things, Turn thou unto me. But she returned not. And her treacherous sister Judah saw it.
8 And I saw, when for all the causes whereby backsliding Israel committed adultery I had put her away, and given her a bill of divorce; yet her treacherous sister Judah feared not, but went and played the harlot also.
9 And it came to pass through the lightness of her whoredom, that she defiled the land, and committed adultery with stones and with stocks.
10 And yet for all this her treacherous sister Judah hath not turned unto me with her whole heart, but feignedly, saith the Lord.
11 And the Lord said unto me, The backsliding Israel hath justified herself more than treacherous Judah.

The Lord telling all, through Jeremiah, about divorcing the house of Israel (Ephraim) over the house of Judah.

Revelation 18
23 And the light of a candle shall shine no more at all in thee; and the voice of the bridegroom and of the bride shall be heard no more at all in thee: for thy merchants were the great men of the earth; for by thy sorceries were all nations deceived.

The Bridegroom is the Lord and the Bride is the Patriarchs, Prophets, the ones he marries through the everlasting covenant.

So when we read about a nation “whoredoms and adultery” it’s talking about cheating with another God over the marriage covenant that we as a people, nation made with the one true God, the God of Abraham.

These other Gods can be false idols, money, power and the such. Not all false Gods are Baal type.

Personally I don’t think we talk about the everlasting covenant enough, we talk about worldly things which is things not of the Lord.

What do you think?

[CuriousThinker]

I think the wife is also part of the marriage covenant. She has specific actions needed and promised blessings also.

[Bronco73idi]

I think the wife is also part of the marriage covenant. She has specific actions needed and promised blessings also.

If the husband doesn’t have a wife that is worthy and agrees with him to be married to the Lord, would the husband ever become like the Son, his Lord?

Most everyone agrees that the Son is subordinate to the Father. They agree we should strive to be like the Son.

Why is it so hard to make this connection?

Do we have a biblical example?

Exodus 4:24

Moses was almost killed, not his Gentile wife! She made a marriage covenant with her husband and he made a marriage covenant with his lord.

If the wife is a true EQUAL then YHWH would have killed Moses’s wife for disagreeing with him and making THEM break the covenant.

[CuriousThinker]

I think the wife is also part of the marriage covenant. She has specific actions needed and promised blessings also.

If the husband doesn’t have a wife that is worthy and agrees with him to be married to the Lord, would the husband ever become like the Son, his Lord?

Most everyone agrees that the Son is subordinate to the Father. They agree we should strive to be like the Son.

Why is it so hard to make this connection?

Do we have a biblical example?

Exodus 4:24

Moses was almost killed, not his Gentile wife! She made a marriage covenant with her husband and he made a marriage covenant with his lord.

If the wife is a true EQUAL then YHWH would have killed Moses’s wife for disagreeing with him and making THEM break the covenant.

Assuming you're correct in your understanding of their marriage, isn't the fact she was his gentile wife show she didn't make a marriage covenant with the Lord? When I was married though, I did covenant with the Lord in the marriage covenant, not just with my husband.

[Bronco73idi]

I think the wife is also part of the marriage covenant. She has specific actions needed and promised blessings also.

If the husband doesn’t have a wife that is worthy and agrees with him to be married to the Lord, would the husband ever become like the Son, his Lord?

Most everyone agrees that the Son is subordinate to the Father. They agree we should strive to be like the Son.

Why is it so hard to make this connection?

Do we have a biblical example?

Exodus 4:24

Moses was almost killed, not his Gentile wife! She made a marriage covenant with her husband and he made a marriage covenant with his lord.

If the wife is a true EQUAL then YHWH would have killed Moses’s wife for disagreeing with him and making THEM break the covenant.

Assuming you're correct in your understanding of their marriage, isn't the fact she was his gentile wife show she didn't make a marriage covenant with the Lord? When I was married though, I did covenant with the Lord in the marriage covenant, not just with my husband.

So if you marry a none Mormon it means nothing?

What makes a woman a true equal in accountability to the Lord, Son or to the Father.

A man who makes an everlasting covenant needs to hold the highest order of priesthood before he can truly make the new everlasting covenant. To try to be like his Lord and Savior.

Can a woman hold the Melchizedek priesthood?

[CuriousThinker]

If the husband doesn’t have a wife that is worthy and agrees with him to be married to the Lord, would the husband ever become like the Son, his Lord?

Most everyone agrees that the Son is subordinate to the Father. They agree we should strive to be like the Son.

Why is it so hard to make this connection?

Do we have a biblical example?

Exodus 4:24

Moses was almost killed, not his Gentile wife! She made a marriage covenant with her husband and he made a marriage covenant with his lord.

If the wife is a true EQUAL then YHWH would have killed Moses’s wife for disagreeing with him and making THEM break the covenant.

Assuming you're correct in your understanding of their marriage, isn't the fact she was his gentile wife show she didn't make a marriage covenant with the Lord? When I was married though, I did covenant with the Lord in the marriage covenant, not just with my husband.

So if you marry a none Mormon it means nothing?

What makes a woman a true equal in accountability to the Lord, Son or to the Father.

A man who makes an everlasting covenant needs to hold the highest order of priesthood before he can truly make the new everlasting covenant. To try to be like his Lord and Savior.

Can a woman hold the Melchizedek priesthood?

I never said it means nothing. But a marriage covenant sealed by the Holy Spirit of Promise is not the same as two people getting married by a judge or pastor.

[Bronco73idi]

Assuming you're correct in your understanding of their marriage, isn't the fact she was his gentile wife show she didn't make a marriage covenant with the Lord? When I was married though, I did covenant with the Lord in the marriage covenant, not just with my husband.

So if you marry a none Mormon it means nothing?

What makes a woman a true equal in accountability to the Lord, Son or to the Father.

A man who makes an everlasting covenant needs to hold the highest order of priesthood before he can truly make the new everlasting covenant. To try to be like his Lord and Savior.

Can a woman hold the Melchizedek priesthood?

I never said it means nothing. But a marriage covenant sealed by the Holy Spirit of Promise is not the same as two people getting married by a judge or pastor.

Yes when two NPC’s get married, it doesn’t mean anything. When those NPC’s wake up to that awful state they are in….

I’m not talking about NPC’s and never do….

The Bible doesn’t talk about barbarians when it talks about covenants.

So why do people always want to bring up the non believers?

26 But he answered and said, It is not meet to take the children’s bread, and to cast it to dogs.

The Lord said this (knowing what she needed) and then he healed the Gentile woman’s daughter, he didn’t educate her about covenants.

[CuriousThinker]

So if you marry a none Mormon it means nothing?

What makes a woman a true equal in accountability to the Lord, Son or to the Father.

A man who makes an everlasting covenant needs to hold the highest order of priesthood before he can truly make the new everlasting covenant. To try to be like his Lord and Savior.

Can a woman hold the Melchizedek priesthood?

I never said it means nothing. But a marriage covenant sealed by the Holy Spirit of Promise is not the same as two people getting married by a judge or pastor.

Yes when two NPC’s get married, it doesn’t mean anything. When those NPC’s wake up to that awful state they are in….

I’m not talking about NPC’s and never do….

The Bible doesn’t talk about barbarians when it talks about covenants.

So why do people always want to bring up the non believers?

26 But he answered and said, It is not meet to take the children’s bread, and to cast it to dogs.

The Lord said this (knowing what she needed) and then he healed the Gentile woman’s daughter, he didn’t educate her about covenants.

I think we're talking past each other. You brought up a story about Moses and his gentile wife. Different things are expected of believers. But I believe both the man and wife are part of the marriage covenant if they are BOTH baptized into the covenant. Your gentile wife is apples vs oranges to the believing wife. I do not believe only a Priesthood holder makes the covenant with God, but his covenant wife too.

[Bronco73idi]

I never said it means nothing. But a marriage covenant sealed by the Holy Spirit of Promise is not the same as two people getting married by a judge or pastor.

Yes when two NPC’s get married, it doesn’t mean anything. When those NPC’s wake up to that awful state they are in….

I’m not talking about NPC’s and never do….

The Bible doesn’t talk about barbarians when it talks about covenants.

So why do people always want to bring up the non believers?

26 But he answered and said, It is not meet to take the children’s bread, and to cast it to dogs.

The Lord said this (knowing what she needed) and then he healed the Gentile woman’s daughter, he didn’t educate her about covenants.

I think we're talking past each other. You brought up a story about Moses and his gentile wife. Different things are expected of believers. But I believe both the man and wife are part of the marriage covenant if they are BOTH baptized into the covenant. Your gentile wife is apples vs oranges to the believing wife. I do not believe only a Priesthood holder makes the covenant with God, but his covenant wife too.

I see

We have two examples in the OT of main Patriarchs, one wife being chosen from a covenanted family and the other from a non covenanted family. The second relationship was even questioned from a covenanted woman, Miriam. Abraham and Sarah and Moses and Zipporah.

The first one mattered to the Lord because of Genetics, the second only mattered for her to follow his covenanted patriarch, prophet.

Unless the Lord tells the worthy Priesthood holder not to marry a non member then it shouldn’t matter and it will work out.

It has more to do with the Man being able to hear his Lord and God.