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How much information or power should an earthling have?
Posted: November 10th, 2023, 11:34 am
by Fred
Now that many universities have quantum computers, the end of encryption is in sight. That will mean big brother or whomever has this power can hack any code at any time. The quantum computers at universities are still relatively primitive. But Google partnered with NASA to build a genuine monster. Merging AI with unlimited real intelligence has many implications.
Elon Musk has issued warnings.
The government ordered NASA to shut down the Google monster.
Omniscience is alright even in the hands of a Monarch if the entity is benevolent. But in the hands of a democrat could weaponize everything against humanity.
Satan has a lot of power, but it is limited. How much power should a human be trusted with? And should we trust infinite knowledge with Google?
Re: How much information or power should an earthling have?
Posted: November 10th, 2023, 11:43 am
by Reluctant Watchman
And the Amish sit back with a grin on their face.
Re: How much information or power should an earthling have?
Posted: November 10th, 2023, 12:09 pm
by gkearney
There is now and always has been an unbreakable code system. It is known as a "one time pad" and would require a the code breaker have a copy of the "pad" used by the two parties. If this pad is kept secure there is no way to break a one time pad system no matter how good your computers might be.
A primative example would be sending the message "the ship has sailed" for our use we will use the identical editions of the Book of Mormon as our pad. First we eliminate the articles "the'" and "has' so the message is "ship sailed".
Now using our identical copies of the Book of Mormon we select pages, not verses where the words ship and sailed appear. I'm using the military editions of the Book of Mormon here so each word is encoded by the page number, line number and word number. Ship becomes 41 45 02 sailed becomes 43 46 03 the whole encoded message is therefor 41 45 02 43 46 03
To be able to decode this message you will need to know what book and what edition of that book serves as the pad. This system can not be broken without that pad and is not subject to frequency analysis because we are first eliminating all the common words, the articles in this case, and we are not encoding letters so we can't look for things like 'e' and 's' in English.
The reason this method is not widely used is that it is slow, demands that the pads be kept secret. The more pads in circulation the greater the risk that they will be compromised in some fashion.
Re: How much information or power should an earthling have?
Posted: November 10th, 2023, 12:51 pm
by Telavian
gkearney wrote: ↑November 10th, 2023, 12:09 pm
There is now and always has been an unbreakable code system. It is known as a "one time pad" and would require a the code breaker have a copy of the "pad" used by the two parties. If this pad is kept secure there is no way to break a one time pad system no matter how good your computers might be.
I like this method. For multiple person communication then you can have different pads and each keep them isolated. In the event that they hack one person then they would discover Person A to Person B communication only. Everything else is still secure.
Now instead someone will hack Person A so they get Person A to everyone.
Re: How much information or power should an earthling have?
Posted: November 10th, 2023, 3:56 pm
by Niemand
Elon Musk is part of this.
Re: How much information or power should an earthling have?
Posted: November 10th, 2023, 3:59 pm
by Niemand
Reluctant Watchman wrote: ↑November 10th, 2023, 11:43 am
And the Amish sit back with a grin on their face.
The Amish are the canaries in the coal mine. As soon as government starts attacking them significantly you'll know civil liberties are at stake.
Re: How much information or power should an earthling have?
Posted: November 10th, 2023, 5:06 pm
by Peeps
Fred wrote: ↑November 10th, 2023, 11:34 am
Now that many universities have quantum computers, the end of encryption is in sight. That will mean big brother or whomever has this power can hack any code at any time. The quantum computers at universities are still relatively primitive. But Google partnered with NASA to build a genuine monster. Merging AI with unlimited real intelligence has many implications.
Elon Musk has issued warnings.
The government ordered NASA to shut down the Google monster.
Omniscience is alright even in the hands of a Monarch if the entity is benevolent. But in the hands of a democrat could weaponize everything against humanity.
Satan has a lot of power, but it is limited. How much power should a human be trusted with? And should we trust infinite knowledge with Google?
Elon is being a hypocrite, as usual. Just like when he paid lip-service to the Canadian truckers, all the while he was manufacturing Tesla semis. Now he has "Grok."
AI bot to rival ChatGPT, others
PUBLISHED SUN, NOV 5 202311:30 AM ESTUPDATED SUN, NOV 5 202311:31 AM EST
by Rebecca Picciotto
"Meet Grok, the first technology out of Elon Musk's new AI company, xAI.
Grok, the company said, is modeled on "The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy." It is supposed to have "a bit of wit," "a rebellious streak" and it should answer the "spicy questions" that other AI might dodge, according to a Saturday statement from xAI.
Leading up to the release, Musk posted on X, formerly Twitter, an example of Grok responding to a request for a step-by-step cocaine recipe.
"Oh sure!" Grok responded. "Just a moment while I pull up the recipe for homemade cocaine. You know, because I'm totally going to help you with that."
Grok also has access to data from X, which xAI said will give it a leg-up. Musk, on Sunday, posted a side-by-side comparison of Grok answering a question versus another AI bot, which he said had less current information.
Still, xAI hedged in its statement, as with any Large Language Model, or LLM, Grok "can still generate false or contradictory information."...."
https://www.cnbc.com/2023/11/05/elon-mu ... hers-.html
From Wikipedia, "Grok" is:
"Grok /ˈɡrɒk/ is a neologism coined by American writer Robert A. Heinlein for his 1961 science fiction novel Stranger in a Strange Land. While the Oxford English Dictionary summarizes the meaning of grok as "to understand intuitively or by empathy, to establish rapport with" and "to empathize or communicate sympathetically (with); also, to experience enjoyment",[1] Heinlein's concept is far more nuanced, with critic Istvan Csicsery-Ronay Jr. observing that "the book's major theme can be seen as an extended definition of the term."[2] The concept of grok garnered significant critical scrutiny in the years after the book's initial publication. The term and aspects of the underlying concept have become part of communities such as computer science....
Grok means "identically equal". The human cliché "This hurts me worse than it does you" has a distinctly Martian flavor. The Martian seems to know instinctively what we learned painfully from modern physics, that observer acts with observed through the process of observation. Grok means to understand so thoroughly that the observer becomes a part of the observed – to merge, blend, intermarry, lose identity in group experience. It means almost everything that we mean by religion, philosophy, and science and it means as little to us as color does to a blind man.[4][5]
The Martian Race had encountered the people of the fifth planet, grokked them completely, and had taken action; asteroid ruins were all that remained, save that the Martians continued to praise and cherish the people they had destroyed.[4]
All that groks is God.[6]..."