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Godislove wrote: ↑November 7th, 2023, 8:30 am There's another component to charity
Corinthians 13:6 tells us that charity “rejoiceth not in iniquity, but rejoiceth in the truth.”

Unconditional Love is False Doctrine
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https://ldsanswers.org/unconditional-lo ... -doctrine/

Abiding in love is very different from unconditional love because our minds have been so corrupted by the world and flesh. It is why God says for us to put on the mind of Christ. Someone can love me unconditionally and I can refuse to abide in it. Like I stated beforehand our mortal minds have a hard time accepting God. Love does not fail. It is us who rejects the Love of God. "For God so loved the world that HE gave His only begotten son so that those who believe in Him might now perish, but have eternal life. For God did NOT send His Son to condemn the world, but to save the world through Him. 18 Whoever believes in him is not condemned, but whoever does not believe stands condemned already because they have not believed in the name of God’s one and only Son.
Or in other words "Whoever believes that God does not love them remains condemned because they have not believed in the name of God's one and only Son. Love is God's gift to us- it remains no matter how many temper tantrums or wrong things we think or believe. He is consistent. HE is Love. If it was not unconditional, then God would cease to be God... For God is the beginning and the end, He is eternal, the Alpha and Omega, He is Love. It can not and shall not cease. He IS. Or as He says "I AM." We love because He loved us first (1 John). It is knowing or understanding God's love that even allows us to receive His mercy and forgiveness. Without believing it, we will remain stuck and never grow up to our full potential because our own flesh view will prevent our growth because we do not let the Spirit of God open our eyes to the breadth and depth of God's love.

Now, how the world describes love isn't love, but love also "takes no account for suffered wrongs" "Love Seeketh not her own" Love does not "dishonor others" it "does not envy", "does not boast" "it does not impute evil" it as you said "doesn't rejoice over unrighteousness, but rejoices over truth, it hopes, it bears all things and it believes, and endures all things, it is patient/long-suffering.

So we need to ask ourselves in our punishment of others or our actions towards others - are we doing it for us? or for them? Is it a mix? then our heart might not be as pure as we hope, but htere is hope, for Jesus says we can have that pure heart- for "Love seeketh not its own"

This message spoken to me from the Holy Ghost resonates from the depths of my bowels... MY LOVE KNOWS NO BOUNDS

I would like to share the words of Paul, to which I testify, make my heart swell with the joy. I respectfully bow out of the conversation.

Ephesians 3: 14-21

14 For this cause I bow my knees unto the Father of our Lord Jesus Christ,

15 Of whom the whole family in heaven and earth is named,

16 That he would grant you, according to the riches of his glory, to be strengthened with might by his Spirit in the inner man;

17 That Christ may dwell in your hearts by faith; that ye, being rooted and grounded in love,

18 May be able to comprehend with all saints what is the breadth, and length, and depth, and height;

19 And to know the love of Christ, which passeth knowledge, that ye might be filled with all the fulness of God.

20 Now unto him that is able to do exceeding abundantly above all that we ask or think, according to the power that worketh in us,

21 Unto him be glory in the church by Christ Jesus throughout all ages, world without end. Amen.

not empty words posted .... I truly love each and every one of you.

Momma J wrote: ↑November 6th, 2023, 1:42 pm

Bronco73idi wrote: ↑November 6th, 2023, 9:27 am

To love unconditionally is used by Satan…..

And yet we are commanded to love our neighbors. We are not commanded to love those who are easy for us to understand and abstain from loving those who hurt us. We are to forgive and love all.

This brings to mind the dream I had of a homeless man beating me... In the dream I was able to feel a complete love for him.

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The joy of love surpasses all doubts in my mind as I feel it course thru me. Satan can use this against me, but he cannot take away the reward. If I am judged harshly, let it not be for a stiff neck and a selective love of my fellow man.

as in your original post about being judged harshly for not teaching your children unconditional love....

Why?

As we judge, we shall be judged.

Teaching children unconditional love is to not condemn them. In doing this, you will not be condemned either.

Judge your children harshly and you will be judged harshly.

Some here have questioned your words because it appears that condemning evil is to an act of righteousness.

No one needs to condemn as a way of teaching. Correction can be accomplished without condemnation.

What does judging mean? What does condemning mean? To condemn is to judge negatively. It's easier to try to correct someone by judging negatively or condemning. It's the way of the self righteous which justifies anger.

It takes WORK to correct without judgement/condemnation. Understanding is required and to understand requires much effort.

Atrasado wrote: ↑November 6th, 2023, 9:11 am The old chestnut, "Hate the sin, but love the sinner," is appropriate here. We have to preach against all sin and iniquity and hold fast to God and those things which are good. We have to love our enemies as well, for God maketh the rain to fall on the just and the unjust. That said, we also have to pray for our enemies' sins to be exposed and pray for the Lord to prevent them from hurting others anymore, and we have to work to make those things a reality as we expose the hidden things of darkness.

In other words, we have to walk a very fine line. We must receive railings and not return them against our persecutors. (It's important to understand that stating true things about someone is not railing against them.) We have to forgive in our hearts even men like Rusty, Gordon Bowen, Tony Fauci, Bill Gates, the Podesta brothers, and Klaus Schwab. But we do not release them from the consequences of their actions because God will have his vengeance. Thankfully, though, we don't have any part in that.

You mean like when the church turns the other cheek.. oh wait...