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MK Ultra mind control

Posted: November 1st, 2023, 10:33 am
by Telavian
I am not sure what to make of all the mass shootings and such. I think most accounts have the people saying that they hear voices and such. This certainly could be a motivator if something is constantly telling you to do terrible things. However, what do you make of the recent event in colorado of instead of carrying out a mass attack the person took themselves out instead?

Do you think there is something, government or demon, that is influencing certain people for a certain agenda or narrative?

https://apnews.com/article/amusement-pa ... 934e74b59c

Re: MK Ultra mind control

Posted: November 1st, 2023, 10:46 am
by InfoWarrior82
The government essentially perfected their mind control technology and techniques in the 60's and 70's. Using drugs and audio/visual input to break down the mind by fracturing it.

This is old technology, and I know they have technology now to transmit sound directly into the inner ear.

Governments could use this to impersonate God, etc...

Look up: Noveto Speaker

Re: MK Ultra mind control

Posted: November 1st, 2023, 10:52 am
by Arm Chair Quarterback
The most important discovery made at over 134 universities working on comparmentalized pieces of the MK ultra project and other projects for the CIA was the power of emotion to manipulate people. Emotion is the basis for false flags, propaganda, pandemics, the Hegelian Dialectic of Problem, Reaction, Solution, and I dare say in some instances religion. It’s ultimately the emotions that evoke a response in people.

Re: MK Ultra mind control

Posted: November 1st, 2023, 10:55 am
by 4Joshua8
Telavian wrote: November 1st, 2023, 10:33 am
Do you think there is something, government or demon, that is influencing certain people for a certain agenda or narrative?

https://apnews.com/article/amusement-pa ... 934e74b59c
Yes. Whether it is demons (probable, at least in part) or secret government programs where they can communicate directly with the mind (probably possible), the effect would be the same. They would disrupt sleep patterns, not let the brain get rest, start out building trust or influencing unto delusions of grandeur, and then at the right time turn the whole experience sour by attacking the character relentlessly until the person believes they are probably evil. The mental and emotional trauma would be so great that the person would start to feel out of control. The voices would begin to subtlety suggest murder, over and over again, eventually growing into specific instructions. The mind would be so worn out and so susceptible to outside influence at that point that tragedy of one kind or another is bound to happen, without intervention. Some people would never murder others and would, as a last resort, take their own life. Others succumb to the evil intent and murder. It can’t be overstated that a lack of sleep is a huge part of the attack. Those are my thoughts, anyway.

Re: MK Ultra mind control

Posted: November 1st, 2023, 12:13 pm
by Seed Starter
Telavian wrote: November 1st, 2023, 10:33 am I am not sure what to make of all the mass shootings and such. I think most accounts have the people saying that they hear voices and such. This certainly could be a motivator if something is constantly telling you to do terrible things. However, what do you make of the recent event in colorado of instead of carrying out a mass attack the person took themselves out instead?

Do you think there is something, government or demon, that is influencing certain people for a certain agenda or narrative?

https://apnews.com/article/amusement-pa ... 934e74b59c
Something went wrong or should I say right. Although it would have been nice if he got help it is good that his programming was interrupted by something. I'm curious what that was. I think it is likely some of these people are programmed. Just living in our world exposes us to programming. I think some are more resistant to it than others.

When I think about indirect human programming I think of people who are choosing not to have children because of climate guilt (superiority). My sister-in-law claims this. I've wondered when we will see people remove themselves to "help" the environment. Then I thought of the Unabomber who killed for the causes he believed in. I was surprised to read this:

"Psychological study
In his second year at Harvard, Kaczynski participated in a study described by author Alston Chase as a "purposely brutalizing psychological experiment" led by Harvard psychologist Henry Murray. Subjects were told they would debate personal philosophy with a fellow student and were asked to write essays detailing their personal beliefs and aspirations. The essays were given to an anonymous individual who would confront and belittle the subject in what Murray himself called "vehement, sweeping, and personally abusive" attacks, using the content of the essays as ammunition. Electrodes monitored the subject's physiological reactions. These encounters were filmed, and subjects' expressions of anger and rage were later played back to them repeatedly. The experiment lasted three years, with someone verbally abusing and humiliating Kaczynski each week. Kaczynski spent 200 hours as part of the study.

Kaczynski's lawyers later attributed his hostility towards mind control techniques to his participation in Murray's study. During the Second World War, Murray had worked with the Office of Strategic Services, a U.S. intelligence agency often referred to as the predecessor to the Central Intelligence Agency (CIA), where he conducted psychological experiments. Some sources have suggested that Murray's experiments were part of Project MKUltra, the CIA's program of research into mind control. Chase and others have also suggested that this experience may have motivated Kaczynski's criminal activities. Kaczynski stated he resented Murray and his co-workers, primarily because of the invasion of his privacy he perceived as a result of their experiments. Nevertheless, he said he was "quite confident that [his] experiences with Professor Murray had no significant effect on the course of [his] life."

You gotta be kidding me. Sometimes programming (indirect or direct) works but sometimes it fails. Of course, the man in the story could have wanted to go out famous but decided this fame was better than killer fame. Perhaps this story is part of someone else's programming. I have no idea if he was part of any direct programming but I hope more becomes known about this one. What was going on in his life? What was he into?

Re: MK Ultra mind control

Posted: November 2nd, 2023, 9:35 am
by JohnnyL
InfoWarrior82 wrote: November 1st, 2023, 10:46 am The government essentially perfected their mind control technology and techniques in the 60's and 70's. Using drugs and audio/visual input to break down the mind by fracturing it.

This is old technology, and I know they have technology now to transmit sound directly into the inner ear.

Governments could use this to impersonate God, etc...

Look up: Noveto Speaker
Transmitting sound is also old technology, but that Noveto Speaker is cool! I saw another speaker recently that does similar things. As I've heard, the public is 50 years behind the government in technology, etc.

Re: MK Ultra mind control

Posted: November 2nd, 2023, 9:49 am
by Reluctant Watchman
I think a small excerpt from my essay on universal law is applicable here. The first principle is Mentalism:

MENTALISM
“The All is Mind. The Universe is Mental.”

The Universe itself is mental, therefore all intelligence may access this universal mind to gain any and all understanding. This principle is one of the most fundamental ideas of existence. It is where the “magic” or spiritual creation begins and is where all of creation began; God thought the universe into existence. All other laws are subject to thought. The ability to create in the mind is the “divine spark”, even the most intimate connection between you and God and His omniscience or all-knowing. The belief that we are created by God, also suggests that God is within you and that we are all One.

Knowing this to be the most foundational principle of consciousness and awareness, and believing that good and evil exist, would suggest that those with ill intent would focus their greatest efforts on controlling the mind. If Satan and his minions can control the thoughts of a person, they can control all outward expressions of that person. Freedom of the mind is the pinnacle of agency and autonomy, and mind control is the epitome of evil.

A common idiom suggests: Thoughts lead to actions; Actions lead to habits; Habits define our character and our Character manifests our Destiny. If you want to influence the trajectory of your destiny, begin with your thoughts.

https://www.reluctantwatchman.com/7-hermetic-principles

Re: MK Ultra mind control

Posted: November 2nd, 2023, 1:28 pm
by HereWeGo
Telavian wrote: November 1st, 2023, 10:33 am Do you think there is something, government or demon, that is influencing certain people for a certain agenda or narrative?
This 2 minute youtube explains how the govt can send sounds and voices to the ears of a target. It will seem like it is being heard in his head but no-one around him will hear it. Woody was a good friend of mine in the 70s and early 80s until he moved to California to form a company to develop things for the US Govt.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1pefJgkG0lw

Re: MK Ultra mind control

Posted: November 2nd, 2023, 1:48 pm
by solonan
Wow! No wonder even the elect could be deceived if not for their testimony of Christ Jesus. I can also see why Jesus said to search diligently. It seems a strict understanding comes through depthy study and the Holy Ghost otherwise, the still small voice you hear would not be able to be discerned properly.
JST Matthew
22 For in those days there shall also arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall show great signs and wonders, insomuch, that, if possible, they shall deceive the very elect, who are the elect according to the covenant.

Re: MK Ultra mind control

Posted: November 2nd, 2023, 5:11 pm
by JuneBug12000
HereWeGo wrote: November 2nd, 2023, 1:28 pm
Telavian wrote: November 1st, 2023, 10:33 am Do you think there is something, government or demon, that is influencing certain people for a certain agenda or narrative?
This 2 minute youtube explains how the govt can send sounds and voices to the ears of a target. It will seem like it is being heard in his head but no-one around him will hear it. Woody was a good friend of mine in the 70s and early 80s until he moved to California to form a company to develop things for the US Govt.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1pefJgkG0lw
Even YouTuber, Mark Rober, used directed sound in his Halloween display this year to freak out candy thieves.

About 1 minute from 6:30-7:40. (Sorry I can't get the YouTube tag to work for some reasons. You'll just have to click on the link to see it.)

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Zb01RStdz ... Jlcg%3D%3D

Re: MK Ultra mind control

Posted: November 2nd, 2023, 5:40 pm
by Down_the_rabbithole
InfoWarrior82 wrote: November 1st, 2023, 10:46 am The government essentially perfected their mind control technology and techniques in the 60's and 70's. Using drugs and audio/visual input to break down the mind by fracturing it.

This is old technology, and I know they have technology now to transmit sound directly into the inner ear.

Governments could use this to impersonate God, etc...

Look up: Noveto Speaker
Laser speakers are really easy to make and have a pretty long range...https://youtu.be/9hD5FPVSsV0?si=i2sO9Q3Zv5fjgmRY

Re: MK Ultra mind control

Posted: November 2nd, 2023, 6:51 pm
by TheDuke
HereWeGo wrote: November 2nd, 2023, 1:28 pm
Telavian wrote: November 1st, 2023, 10:33 am Do you think there is something, government or demon, that is influencing certain people for a certain agenda or narrative?
This 2 minute youtube explains how the govt can send sounds and voices to the ears of a target. It will seem like it is being heard in his head but no-one around him will hear it. Woody was a good friend of mine in the 70s and early 80s until he moved to California to form a company to develop things for the US Govt.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1pefJgkG0lw
People love to believe unbelievable government technologies! Last year it was 5G talking straight to nanobots injected in COVID vaccines with little itty-bitty antennas sticking out of your arm and head. So, the government has definitely two types of tech, and neither do what the above posts claim. 1) they disrupt. they are broadband high power disrupters to make your head ache, and make it impossible to hear. You'd broadcast this at a riot or on a battle field (very, very short distance, wide dissemination). Boeing worked on some of this tech. I personally didn't, we bought it and put it on our vehicles. 2) they have surveillance equipment that can narrow point to listen and speak, but this is (very low power and narrow, i.e. single person) comm that is jam resistant. Usually strangely shaped antennas. Neither of these do what is claimed above, their tech doesn't allow it.

Got any other tech here? Bring it out if you do. If you just say they have it but it is secret, try walking through the options. We are talking sound waves after all, been using them since Edison's time, electronically. They cannot be spread using anything but acoustical methods, though Bose et al. have some high tech (small) ways to move air that doesn't require physical movement of the vanes).

Re: MK Ultra mind control

Posted: November 2nd, 2023, 11:23 pm
by abijah
jay dyer has a lot of different good takes on this subject especially in how its shown in film, but i'd figure i'd pick this video to go through and timestamp, hopefully its decent. I'm gonna link the url rather than the video itself because the thumbnail has a bikini-clad monarch butterfly, which I understand is symbolically relevant, but still too aesthetically distasteful for me :o
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sdWRoKhBgHQ&t=1064s

4:20 - discussion begins, backdrop of materialist, nihilistic, post-darwin worldview, cymatics, how the occult/magick relate with technology, specifically smartphones, why many of the true elite are extremely interested in magic

6:00 magic in the worldview of the elite is the ability to envision an intention and then make it into an actual reality in the world, real tangible willpower made manifest. its something all humans possess by God's design so as to participate in Creation with him and expanding Eden, however corrupt elite main interests are to make this belong to them exclusively and degrade the general populace for sake of power. Goes back to cavemen drawings in caves where they would, in a predictive sort of manner, paint out on the walls their *intention* of hunting and slaying an animal in order to manifest it in reality. true intention happens in one's thoughts, and the manipulation of thoughts is where the concept of "sorcery" begins to arise, however there is definitely nuance involved considering how one could argue that persuasion and influence over each others thoughts and actions are natural and decent universal human behaviours. sorcery differs from magic in that it hijacks the imaginations for manipulative, exploitative ends, names disney as a historical, archetypal example of this.

9:00 the occult and... robots 🤖Jewish golems. Use of sorcery to hijack one's own *will* in order to exploitatively use someone's own agency and selfhood as a tool, a means to an end. Plundering the inner-hidden treasures of human free will. The deepest level and scale of enslavement. Wearing the free will of someone else as a priestly garment or magic robe. Mickey Mouse = the sorceror's apprentice.

10:00 reference to the Tavistock institute, and the broader concept of "culture creation". Using the arts in conjunction with weaponized social engineering for the purpose of mass influence and control. In biology a term for petri cultures are "culture media(s)", introducing things to the petri dish the things you want to grow there. Our culture likewise is not some totally organic thing that just naturally became what it is independent of artificial manipulation. Music, movies, political movements, cultural ideas/'the zeitgeist' is very much more pre-determined and calculated than most would think.

11:55 reference to film Josie and the Pussycats (2001) where a key hinge point in the plot is subliminal musical programming where one song plays and everyone is wearing pink, then the song changes and suddenly "orange is the new pink" and then it's orange [same year as Zoolander (2001) 🤔 where the hinge point in the plot is the antagonist trying to play "Relax" so Derek kills the Malaysian prime minister...], signifying how "trends", "fads", and broader fashion is something that is inculcated artificially for means of control, specifically to children who have more tender layers of influenceability and permanence of imprinting. Largely speaking, children are indoctrinated from young ages to become the general product of what they are in adulthood onward.

13:00 the occult and... TV's 📺 negative health effects on the body and the psyche. designed to induce a hypnotic state, such as flicker-rate, which there are publicly-viewable patents for. designed to put viewer into an "alpha state", a hypnotic, suggestible state. invention of television came a lot from William Crookes, a member of the Order of the Golden Dawn, who believed the ether-spirits could move tiny particles around. Through his inventions (such as the Crookes Tube, led to other inventions that created television, specifically through experiments of his wherein he would fire electrons at a glass pane 🪟 🔫, hoping that the spirits on the other side would rearrange the particles on the glass screen with their message. "Just like The Ring" (2002), jay points out, specifically the idea of spirits crawling out of the TV [similar to the mk ultra film Videodrome (1983)], as well as Poltergeist (1982).

14:50 It's basically just high-level strategics, for top-tier governing forces to secure and maintain power [in conjunction with heavenly forces, in similar/parallel rebellion against their Creator]. The forging of an all-powerful, perpetual propaganda machine, specifically one that is so universal as to being in every household 📺 moving from tv to hdtv. Reference to Dr. Jose Delgado in reference to MK ultra, planting electrodes into monkeys, influencing bull charges by electric shocks 🐂⚡. Mk ultra is not so much a programmed assassin as it is a normal TV set in the living room. mk ultra builds the basis for electron manipulation. Casting imprint neural spells. Technology, magic...? Thoughts, frequencies... artificial plundering of the inner human heart.

Re: MK Ultra mind control

Posted: November 3rd, 2023, 4:30 am
by Niemand
MK Ultra was wrapped up decades ago. Many similar projects have succeeded it and will go by different names.

Re: MK Ultra mind control

Posted: November 3rd, 2023, 2:42 pm
by HereWeGo
TheDuke wrote: November 2nd, 2023, 6:51 pm
HereWeGo wrote: November 2nd, 2023, 1:28 pm
Telavian wrote: November 1st, 2023, 10:33 am Do you think there is something, government or demon, that is influencing certain people for a certain agenda or narrative?
This 2 minute youtube explains how the govt can send sounds and voices to the ears of a target. It will seem like it is being heard in his head but no-one around him will hear it. Woody was a good friend of mine in the 70s and early 80s until he moved to California to form a company to develop things for the US Govt.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1pefJgkG0lw
People love to believe unbelievable government technologies! Last year it was 5G talking straight to nanobots injected in COVID vaccines with little itty-bitty antennas sticking out of your arm and head. So, the government has definitely two types of tech, and neither do what the above posts claim. 1) they disrupt. they are broadband high power disrupters to make your head ache, and make it impossible to hear. You'd broadcast this at a riot or on a battle field (very, very short distance, wide dissemination). Boeing worked on some of this tech. I personally didn't, we bought it and put it on our vehicles. 2) they have surveillance equipment that can narrow point to listen and speak, but this is (very low power and narrow, i.e. single person) comm that is jam resistant. Usually strangely shaped antennas. Neither of these do what is claimed above, their tech doesn't allow it.

Got any other tech here? Bring it out if you do. If you just say they have it but it is secret, try walking through the options. We are talking sound waves after all, been using them since Edison's time, electronically. They cannot be spread using anything but acoustical methods, though Bose et al. have some high tech (small) ways to move air that doesn't require physical movement of the vanes).
There are other youtubes showing this technology being demonstrated. I know this guy and he has a genius level IQ. His patriarical blessing promised that he would know the Gospel to whatever depth he desired.

I visited him during the early time he was working with the DOD so I know which inventions the DOD purchased from him.

You are such a naysayer on almost everything. I wish you knew half of what you think you know. You can see how few people agree with your posts by seeing how many thanks you get.

I respect that you have a right to say anything you wish. There will, however, be no more communication with you from me. My IQ score is only half of what you probably think yours is so I probably can't hold a challenging conversation with you.

I wish you well in your life.

Re: MK Ultra mind control

Posted: November 3rd, 2023, 3:18 pm
by TheDuke
HereWeGo wrote: November 3rd, 2023, 2:42 pm
TheDuke wrote: November 2nd, 2023, 6:51 pm
HereWeGo wrote: November 2nd, 2023, 1:28 pm

This 2 minute youtube explains how the govt can send sounds and voices to the ears of a target. It will seem like it is being heard in his head but no-one around him will hear it. Woody was a good friend of mine in the 70s and early 80s until he moved to California to form a company to develop things for the US Govt.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1pefJgkG0lw
People love to believe unbelievable government technologies! Last year it was 5G talking straight to nanobots injected in COVID vaccines with little itty-bitty antennas sticking out of your arm and head. So, the government has definitely two types of tech, and neither do what the above posts claim. 1) they disrupt. they are broadband high power disrupters to make your head ache, and make it impossible to hear. You'd broadcast this at a riot or on a battle field (very, very short distance, wide dissemination). Boeing worked on some of this tech. I personally didn't, we bought it and put it on our vehicles. 2) they have surveillance equipment that can narrow point to listen and speak, but this is (very low power and narrow, i.e. single person) comm that is jam resistant. Usually strangely shaped antennas. Neither of these do what is claimed above, their tech doesn't allow it.

Got any other tech here? Bring it out if you do. If you just say they have it but it is secret, try walking through the options. We are talking sound waves after all, been using them since Edison's time, electronically. They cannot be spread using anything but acoustical methods, though Bose et al. have some high tech (small) ways to move air that doesn't require physical movement of the vanes).
There are other youtubes showing this technology being demonstrated. I know this guy and he has a genius level IQ. His patriarical blessing promised that he would know the Gospel to whatever depth he desired.

I visited him during the early time he was working with the DOD so I know which inventions the DOD purchased from him.

You are such a naysayer on almost everything. I wish you knew half of what you think you know. You can see how few people agree with your posts by seeing how many thanks you get.

I respect that you have a right to say anything you wish. There will, however, be no more communication with you from me. My IQ score is only half of what you probably think yours is so I probably can't hold a challenging conversation with you.

I wish you well in your life.
I'm sorry, it isn't about IQ or the such, but there are people claiming things that are pretty easy to debunk yet many are still pulled in to the lies. they are there to sow evil. I admit that I have dabbled nearly 50 years in US military and some commercial TS technologies and have learned a few things. One is they push real technologies to the fullest. The second is they pay money to follies that never work and have no basis.

I simply ask basic questions. What is possible within our physics, if there is a path then the next question is where is our technology. If you cannot get past question (1) then (2) doesn't matter. Like the 5G through the skin! It isn't physically possible, not at any range. Or programming people's minds from their arms by nanobots? You cannot even program ones mind with any technology, let alone some microscopic computer chip (without power, memory, software, logic, etc....). I could go on. My only point is to ask questions of the impossible to see where the physics breakthrough is. It one isn't provided, it doesn't exist. Like the A-bomb, which was the biggest secret up until its time, the physics was know. Not the math, or the tech, but the physics was. Same as airplanes, missiles, rockets, robotics, armor, surveillance, communications, etc.... If you disagree name just one over all of time!

Re: MK Ultra mind control

Posted: November 3rd, 2023, 3:38 pm
by Seed Starter
I saw this video the other day and found it quite interesting:
If you watch you'll see most of the participants were unable to continue reading out loud. For a second I thought they might have used this on zombie Joe a time or two but then I realized stopping him from reading the teleprompter might actually benefit him in many cases :lol: This isn't beaming voices into someone's head but I can see how limiting face to face communication might be done. I don't know if it's possible to make people hear voices not heard by others. I think there are other more practical ways to guide someone's thoughts and actions without using hardware. Perhaps an implanted Neuralink will open up many more possibilities if it goes mainstream.

Re: MK Ultra mind control

Posted: November 3rd, 2023, 3:43 pm
by Seed Starter
abijah wrote: November 2nd, 2023, 11:23 pm jay dyer has a lot of different good takes on this subject especially in how its shown in film, but i'd figure i'd pick this video to go through and timestamp, hopefully its decent. I'm gonna link the url rather than the video itself because the thumbnail has a bikini-clad monarch butterfly, which I understand is symbolically relevant, but still too aesthetically distasteful for me :o
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sdWRoKhBgHQ&t=1064s

4:20 - discussion begins, backdrop of materialist, nihilistic, post-darwin worldview, cymatics, how the occult/magick relate with technology, specifically smartphones, why many of the true elite are extremely interested in magic

6:00 magic in the worldview of the elite is the ability to envision an intention and then make it into an actual reality in the world, real tangible willpower made manifest. its something all humans possess by God's design so as to participate in Creation with him and expanding Eden, however corrupt elite main interests are to make this belong to them exclusively and degrade the general populace for sake of power. Goes back to cavemen drawings in caves where they would, in a predictive sort of manner, paint out on the walls their *intention* of hunting and slaying an animal in order to manifest it in reality. true intention happens in one's thoughts, and the manipulation of thoughts is where the concept of "sorcery" begins to arise, however there is definitely nuance involved considering how one could argue that persuasion and influence over each others thoughts and actions are natural and decent universal human behaviours. sorcery differs from magic in that it hijacks the imaginations for manipulative, exploitative ends, names disney as a historical, archetypal example of this.

9:00 the occult and... robots 🤖Jewish golems. Use of sorcery to hijack one's own *will* in order to exploitatively use someone's own agency and selfhood as a tool, a means to an end. Plundering the inner-hidden treasures of human free will. The deepest level and scale of enslavement. Wearing the free will of someone else as a priestly garment or magic robe. Mickey Mouse = the sorceror's apprentice.

10:00 reference to the Tavistock institute, and the broader concept of "culture creation". Using the arts in conjunction with weaponized social engineering for the purpose of mass influence and control. In biology a term for petri cultures are "culture media(s)", introducing things to the petri dish the things you want to grow there. Our culture likewise is not some totally organic thing that just naturally became what it is independent of artificial manipulation. Music, movies, political movements, cultural ideas/'the zeitgeist' is very much more pre-determined and calculated than most would think.

11:55 reference to film Josie and the Pussycats (2001) where a key hinge point in the plot is subliminal musical programming where one song plays and everyone is wearing pink, then the song changes and suddenly "orange is the new pink" and then it's orange [same year as Zoolander (2001) 🤔 where the hinge point in the plot is the antagonist trying to play "Relax" so Derek kills the Malaysian prime minister...], signifying how "trends", "fads", and broader fashion is something that is inculcated artificially for means of control, specifically to children who have more tender layers of influenceability and permanence of imprinting. Largely speaking, children are indoctrinated from young ages to become the general product of what they are in adulthood onward.

13:00 the occult and... TV's 📺 negative health effects on the body and the psyche. designed to induce a hypnotic state, such as flicker-rate, which there are publicly-viewable patents for. designed to put viewer into an "alpha state", a hypnotic, suggestible state. invention of television came a lot from William Crookes, a member of the Order of the Golden Dawn, who believed the ether-spirits could move tiny particles around. Through his inventions (such as the Crookes Tube, led to other inventions that created television, specifically through experiments of his wherein he would fire electrons at a glass pane 🪟 🔫, hoping that the spirits on the other side would rearrange the particles on the glass screen with their message. "Just like The Ring" (2002), jay points out, specifically the idea of spirits crawling out of the TV [similar to the mk ultra film Videodrome (1983)], as well as Poltergeist (1982).

14:50 It's basically just high-level strategics, for top-tier governing forces to secure and maintain power [in conjunction with heavenly forces, in similar/parallel rebellion against their Creator]. The forging of an all-powerful, perpetual propaganda machine, specifically one that is so universal as to being in every household 📺 moving from tv to hdtv. Reference to Dr. Jose Delgado in reference to MK ultra, planting electrodes into monkeys, influencing bull charges by electric shocks 🐂⚡. Mk ultra is not so much a programmed assassin as it is a normal TV set in the living room. mk ultra builds the basis for electron manipulation. Casting imprint neural spells. Technology, magic...? Thoughts, frequencies... artificial plundering of the inner human heart.
How funny. I click on the link and the video continues at 18 mins. I must have started watching this at some point ;)

Re: MK Ultra mind control

Posted: November 3rd, 2023, 4:03 pm
by Telavian
Seed Starter wrote: November 3rd, 2023, 3:43 pm How funny. I click on the link and the video continues at 18 mins. I must have started watching this at some point ;)
The t=1064s at the end of the link means to start at 1064 seconds. This is 17 minutes and 44 seconds.

Re: MK Ultra mind control

Posted: November 3rd, 2023, 4:11 pm
by Seed Starter
Telavian wrote: November 3rd, 2023, 4:03 pm
Seed Starter wrote: November 3rd, 2023, 3:43 pm How funny. I click on the link and the video continues at 18 mins. I must have started watching this at some point ;)
The t=1064s at the end of the link means to start at 1064 seconds. This is 17 minutes and 44 seconds.
Well that makes sense doesn't it ;) I've watched many of Jay's talks and found value in some of them.