LDS Freedom Forum

Lineman1012 wrote: ↑November 2nd, 2023, 8:37 am

ransomme wrote: ↑November 2nd, 2023, 12:23 am

Lineman1012 wrote: ↑October 31st, 2023, 10:36 pm This is the second one in Arizona, The first one, which is almost ready to open, is called Retreat at Prasada, 15901 W Waddell Rd, Surprise, AZ. Opposite corners of Phoenix metro area.

The for profit corporate name for LDS Development in Arizona, at least, is “City Creek Development”. I refer to it as Little City Creek Development, because they haven’t spent 5 billion dollars on a project in Arizona yet.

There is at least one more, for a total of 3, of these Little City Creek Development “Rental Homes” projects going up in the PHX market.

I don’t know what all the fuss is about, Little City Creek Development, is the Servant given 5 talents and they are turning them into 10 talents.

You think that parable is about making money?

I was being sarcastic. I knew I should have put this on there.

Actually, they are taking 5 talents and turning it into residual income of 5 additional talents every year for the next 30 years. This is the perfect solution for the church, when everyone stops paying their tithing because they (the church) aren’t using the donations of tithes to help the poor, needy, sick and afflicted.

Sure but that defeats the purpose. The purpose being relying on the Lord and perfecting our faith.

Just saying...

ransomme wrote: ↑November 2nd, 2023, 9:02 am

Lineman1012 wrote: ↑November 2nd, 2023, 8:37 am

ransomme wrote: ↑November 2nd, 2023, 12:23 am

You think that parable is about making money?

I was being sarcastic. I knew I should have put this on there.

Actually, they are taking 5 talents and turning it into residual income of 5 additional talents every year for the next 30 years. This is the perfect solution for the church, when everyone stops paying their tithing because they (the church) aren’t using the donations of tithes to help the poor, needy, sick and afflicted.

Sure but that defeats the purpose. The purpose being relying on the Lord and perfecting our faith.

Just saying...

Very good point. When you have an extra $100B you’ll spend all your time managing it, leaving less time for anything else. You’ll need to build malls, numerous rental home projects, and have an temple building army, just to put some of the money to use.

I can see that the counsel to “sell all you have and give it to the poor” to the rich young ruler was to free him from the bondage of Babylon and make it possible to rely on the Lord.

Due to the cognitive dissonance of the sheeple from RMN godsend, many will march if not race right into these agenda 2030, zero carbon, 15 minute, social credit scoring, bug eating, u.n. loving, lgbtq accepting, $ pay for heaven TRAPS.

Pathway2DaCross wrote: ↑November 3rd, 2023, 9:46 am Due to the cognitive dissonance of the sheeple from RMN godsend, many will march if not race right into these agenda 2030, zero carbon, 15 minute, social credit scoring, bug eating, u.n. loving, lgbtq accepting, $ pay for heaven TRAPS.

Before Covid I always wondered how could you get train loads of people to willingly board the train that would take them to the gas chambers at Auschwitz, Germany.

Now, I completely understand.

ALL A BOARD!

Lineman1012 wrote: ↑October 31st, 2023, 10:36 pm This is the second one in Arizona, The first one, which is almost ready to open, is called Retreat at Prasada, 15901 W Waddell Rd, Surprise, AZ. Opposite corners of Phoenix metro area.

The for profit corporate name for LDS Development in Arizona, at least, is “City Creek Development”. I refer to it as Little City Creek Development, because they haven’t spent 5 billion dollars on a project in Arizona yet.

There is at least one more, for a total of 3, of these Little City Creek Development “Rental Homes” projects going up in the PHX market.

I don’t know what all the fuss is about, Little City Creek Development, is the Servant given 5 talents and they are turning them into 10 talents.

There is a "Little City Creek" rental homes project going on in St. George, UTAH that is a month or two ahead of the rental homes project in Queen Creek, Arizona.

The trouble is the church has all kinds of land holdings. Some of which were welfare farms that the towns have grown up around making the land more valuable to build on than farm.

I can't imagine how much time and how many meetings it takes to make all the decisions that have to be made to keep all their investment going. And this is a church???

Lineman1012 wrote: ↑November 3rd, 2023, 12:32 pm

Pathway2DaCross wrote: ↑November 3rd, 2023, 9:46 am Due to the cognitive dissonance of the sheeple from RMN godsend, many will march if not race right into these agenda 2030, zero carbon, 15 minute, social credit scoring, bug eating, u.n. loving, lgbtq accepting, $ pay for heaven TRAPS.

Before Covid I always wondered how could you get train loads of people to willingly board the train that would take them to the gas chambers at Auschwitz, Germany.

Now, I completely understand.

ALL A BOARD!

The tithing requirement continues anyway because “faith”. What I don’t see from the LDS Church is any faith that people will continue paying if they drop the requirement. When people finally realize the church doesn’t need their money, I can imagine the people revising what they consider a full tithe. Maybe they will decide a full tithe includes the money they need to spend to help other family members survive. It has become a joke.

good thing Joseph never asked for money to fund the organization, he ONLY asked for money for the poor, right? LOL.

Same with Moses........................................ I don't like what the church does in many cases, I think they could afford to pay an out of work person to clean the chapels for example. But the constant criticism of investing shows only that many, many people haven't the skills to be successful. Then they'll complain about the bishops and leaders being rich, or in other words successful. Wow. I have rich friends, I never feel jealous toward them, well maybe their hot cars, but otherwise.

I would like to know how many of the posters on here have done as suggested above and sold everything and gave it to the poor? I'm guessing NONE!

So, if you have donated more than 6 figures (that is a number between $100,000 and $999,999 for those who need help) and have a total personal value less than the figure donated; or have given even 1/2 or 50% of their wealth to the poor. RESPOND with you numbers to this post and I will personally honor your valiancy! Does NOT include taxes or involuntary gifts, voluntary only!

To be honest, I'm not one. Sure, I've donated the amount but it was NO WHERE near even 50% I invested most of my earnings for my retirement (luckily as my wife seems to have donated all her earnings to her children's unsuccessful business interests)

I guess I could be jealous that I drive a 1999 Toyota Rav4 while our mission president has a new Lincoln (or looks like one any way). but, why? He gives full time to the church, should he be punished for it? Why should not those that sacrifice their time get some rewards? Why should the church give all or much of its money to those incapable of even managing their daily accounts? it seems that throwing money into the wind or sending food to some poor country for the warlords to use to entice the daughters of starving families for sex, is a government task, not a church task.

You know what they say. There’s a sucker born every minute.

This is interesting because it is exactly what Black Rock, Bill Gates, and those of similar ilk are doing. They are deliberately only developing huge portions of land and previously-privately-owned real estate as rental-only properties. Nothing is going back into the buying pool, so demand goes up, prices go out of reach for the middle class and lower.

I tend to think this is a part of the 2030 commitments/initiative. You shall own nothing - rent everything.

Dusty Wanderer wrote: ↑November 3rd, 2023, 4:17 pm This is interesting because it is exactly what Black Rock, Bill Gates, and those of similar ilk are doing. They are deliberately only developing huge portions of land and previously-privately-owned real estate as rental-only properties. Nothing is going back into the buying pool, so demand goes up, prices go out of reach for the middle class and lower.

I tend to think this is a part of the 2030 commitments/initiative. You shall own nothing - rent everything.

Exactly the same thing. Large corporations should be forbidden from owning single family housing for rental purposes. They are killing the American dream. Pottersville is here.