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Unsealed women only
Posted: October 27th, 2023, 10:13 am
by Lineman1012
My friend, who’s 75 years old, lost his wife a couple months back. I was talking to him this week and he said he’s ready to start dating again. But there’s one catch, He only wants to date women that haven’t been “sealed” to anyone. He doesn’t want to love someone he can’t have forever. We had a short discussion and his mind is made up. “Only unsealed women” and they will have to be able to get along with his dead wife, in the eternities.
What do you think? Is this rational thinking or not?
Re: Unsealed women only
Posted: October 27th, 2023, 10:17 am
by Althea
Lineman1012 wrote: ↑October 27th, 2023, 10:13 am
My friend, who’s 75 years old, lost his wife a couple months back. I was talking to him this week and he said he’s ready to start dating again. But there’s one catch, He only wants to date women that haven’t been “sealed” to anyone. He doesn’t want to love someone he can’t have forever. We had a short discussion and his mind is made up. “Only unsealed women” and they will have to be able to get along with his dead wife, in the eternities.
What do you think? Is this rational thinking or not?
Irrational, selfish, and a bit prideful. These are the fruits of the wickedness of polygamy.
Re: Unsealed women only
Posted: October 27th, 2023, 10:23 am
by Luke
Althea wrote: ↑October 27th, 2023, 10:17 am
Lineman1012 wrote: ↑October 27th, 2023, 10:13 am
My friend, who’s 75 years old, lost his wife a couple months back. I was talking to him this week and he said he’s ready to start dating again. But there’s one catch, He only wants to date women that haven’t been “sealed” to anyone. He doesn’t want to love someone he can’t have forever. We had a short discussion and his mind is made up. “Only unsealed women” and they will have to be able to get along with his dead wife, in the eternities.
What do you think? Is this rational thinking or not?
Irrational, selfish, and a bit prideful. These are the fruits of the wickedness of polygamy.
Not really. It’s neither here nor there. Everyone, including you and me, have their preferences.
Re: Unsealed women only
Posted: October 27th, 2023, 10:43 am
by tribrac
Yes, it seems rationale.
I may not agree with his reasoning, or conclusions, but disagreement does not make his arguments irrational.
He also lost his partner not too long ago, I would cut him some slack. His strict criteria may be a front for a man who is not ready to think seriously about a life without his partner.
Re: Unsealed women only
Posted: October 27th, 2023, 10:52 am
by Bronco73idi
Lineman1012 wrote: ↑October 27th, 2023, 10:13 am
My friend, who’s 75 years old, lost his wife a couple months back. I was talking to him this week and he said he’s ready to start dating again. But there’s one catch, He only wants to date women that haven’t been “sealed” to anyone. He doesn’t want to love someone he can’t have forever. We had a short discussion and his mind is made up. “Only unsealed women” and they will have to be able to get along with his dead wife, in the eternities.
What do you think? Is this rational thinking or not?
Has the Holy Ghost made his election to him?
Has the Holy Ghost made your election?
Do you or him understand the new everlasting covenant?
If he or you can not answer these questions then it doesn’t matter one way or another.
Remember this earth is damn because of the inhabitants of the earth have transgressed the laws, changed the ordinance, broken the everlasting covenant.
Isaiah 24:4-6.
Re: Unsealed women only
Posted: October 27th, 2023, 11:30 am
by Wolfwoman
I think it’s dumb. But I can see where he arrived at that thinking. How does he know his 2nd wife would get along with his first wife anyway? He doesn’t. It’s just a guess.
Maybe the unsealed women out there don’t want to be heavenly polygamists.
Re: Unsealed women only
Posted: October 27th, 2023, 12:17 pm
by Fred
Just thinking that I would not get too excited about marrying anyone that had already expressed eternal devotion to someone else.
Re: Unsealed women only
Posted: October 27th, 2023, 12:51 pm
by Ebenezer
I hear Sharon Eubank is available.
Re: Unsealed women only
Posted: October 27th, 2023, 12:56 pm
by BigFootCain
Ebenezer wrote: ↑October 27th, 2023, 12:51 pm
I hear Sharon Eubank is available.
I needed to laugh today. Thank you.
Re: Unsealed women only
Posted: October 27th, 2023, 1:04 pm
by investigator
Was he sealed to his first wife by the Holy Spirit of promise? If not, what difference does it make?
Re: Unsealed women only
Posted: October 27th, 2023, 1:21 pm
by Lineman1012
investigator wrote: ↑October 27th, 2023, 1:04 pm
Was he sealed to his first wife by the Holy Spirit of promise? If not, what difference does it make?
Very good point. I will ask him tomorrow. I know the thought/teaching in the church is all you need to do is go to the temple and you are sealed. But ... that is not the teaching found in the scriptures.
Re: Unsealed women only
Posted: October 27th, 2023, 1:23 pm
by Lineman1012
Althea wrote: ↑October 27th, 2023, 10:17 am
Lineman1012 wrote: ↑October 27th, 2023, 10:13 am
My friend, who’s 75 years old, lost his wife a couple months back. I was talking to him this week and he said he’s ready to start dating again. But there’s one catch, He only wants to date women that haven’t been “sealed” to anyone. He doesn’t want to love someone he can’t have forever. We had a short discussion and his mind is made up. “Only unsealed women” and they will have to be able to get along with his dead wife, in the eternities.
What do you think? Is this rational thinking or not?
Irrational, selfish, and a bit prideful. These are the fruits of the wickedness of polygamy.
I couldn't agree more - and polygamy hasn't been taught for over 100 years - but its effects still live on.
Re: Unsealed women only
Posted: October 27th, 2023, 1:48 pm
by Niemand
Ebenezer wrote: ↑October 27th, 2023, 12:51 pm
I hear Sharon Eubank is available.
Sheri Dew too.
Re: Unsealed women only
Posted: October 27th, 2023, 2:11 pm
by Precepts
I believe RMN is sealed to Wendy and his first wife. That would make him a polygamist. Sounds about right.
Re: Unsealed women only
Posted: October 27th, 2023, 2:17 pm
by TheDuke
I suppose at 75 you have one foot in the grave already so you might be thinking long term?
I know a man that was in his 80s, temple worker. His wife of many, many years died. He chatted up another older lady temple worker and got married. After a couple years he persuaded her to get unsealed from her husband of 50 years and all her own children and get sealed to him.
Personally, I found that quite disgusting. I don't see god honoring any such marriage or sealing because of an ordinance. Now, I'm not saying the Lord and HSoP don't honor such things. But, it seems it isn't up to the individual in the first place to assure any eternal relationship, it is up to the Lord.
But, I guess my point is that at least he isn't stealing another's!
Also, like stated above, both must be worthy of highest level of celestial, both must be sealed up by HSoP, etc... I think the least of the concerns would be if they would get along in the next life.
Re: Unsealed women only
Posted: October 27th, 2023, 2:33 pm
by jack
TheDuke wrote: ↑October 27th, 2023, 2:17 pm
I suppose at 75 you have one foot in the grave already so you might be thinking long term?
I know a man that was in his 80s, temple worker. His wife of many, many years died. He chatted up another older lady temple worker and got married. After a couple years he persuaded her to get unsealed from her husband of 50 years and all her own children and get sealed to him.
Personally, I found that quite disgusting. I don't see god honoring any such marriage or sealing because of an ordinance. Now, I'm not saying the Lord and HSoP don't honor such things. But, it seems it isn't up to the individual in the first place to assure any eternal relationship, it is up to the Lord.
But, I guess my point is that at least he isn't stealing another's!
Also, like stated above, both must be worthy of highest level of celestial, both must be sealed up by HSoP, etc... I think the least of the concerns would be if they would get along in the next life.
Sounds to me like he's taking
Joseph's advice to be crafty literally!
:
Again the doctrin or sealing power of Elijah is as follows if you have power to seal on earth & in heaven then we should be Crafty, the first thing you do go & seal on earth your sons & daughters unto yourself, & yourself unto your fathers in eternal glory, & go ahead and not go back, but use a little Craftiness & seal all you can; & when you get to heaven tell your father that what you seal on earth should be sealed in heaven I will walk through the gate of heaven and Claim what I seal & those that follow me & my Council
Re: Unsealed women only
Posted: October 27th, 2023, 3:06 pm
by Seed Starter
Ebenezer wrote: ↑October 27th, 2023, 12:51 pm
I hear Sharon Eubank is available.
Available for what though?
Re: Unsealed women only
Posted: October 27th, 2023, 3:16 pm
by ~ternal-tummim
Lineman1012 wrote: ↑October 27th, 2023, 10:13 am
What do you think?
No hymen?
No diamond.
Re: Unsealed women only
Posted: October 27th, 2023, 3:23 pm
by Reluctant Watchman
Ebenezer wrote: ↑October 27th, 2023, 12:51 pm
I hear Sharon Eubank is available.
And Sheri Dew!!
Dang... Niemand beat me to it.
Re: Unsealed women only
Posted: October 27th, 2023, 3:24 pm
by jack
~ternal-tummim wrote: ↑October 27th, 2023, 3:16 pm
Lineman1012 wrote: ↑October 27th, 2023, 10:13 am
What do you think?
No hymen?
No diamond.
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Re: Unsealed women only
Posted: October 27th, 2023, 3:33 pm
by CuriousThinker
It is exactly what Nelson and Oaks did. I believe they purposefully only married women who weren't married before. That way they could have them as their second polygamous wives.
Re: Unsealed women only
Posted: October 27th, 2023, 3:35 pm
by Niemand
Reluctant Watchman wrote: ↑October 27th, 2023, 3:23 pm
Ebenezer wrote: ↑October 27th, 2023, 12:51 pm
I hear Sharon Eubank is available.
And Sheri Dew!!
Dang... Niemand beat me to it.
Re: Unsealed women only
Posted: October 27th, 2023, 3:48 pm
by ransomme
Niemand wrote: ↑October 27th, 2023, 1:48 pm
Ebenezer wrote: ↑October 27th, 2023, 12:51 pm
I hear Sharon Eubank is available.
Sheri Dew too.
Neither are available, they both have partners
Re: Unsealed women only
Posted: October 27th, 2023, 4:26 pm
by LadyT
My mil has found many guys like this. They refuse to even date if the woman is sealed to another man. One asked her if she would be willing to break her sealing with her late husband to be sealed to a new one. She said no and he said then there is nothing to talk about. He was sealed to his late wife. She said that she has talked to several older widows that have had the same thing happen . It's sad.
Re: Unsealed women only
Posted: October 27th, 2023, 4:41 pm
by TheDuke
LadyT wrote: ↑October 27th, 2023, 4:26 pm
My mil has found many guys like this. They refuse to even date if the woman is sealed to another man. One asked her if she would be willing to break her sealing with her late husband to be sealed to a new one. She said no and he said then there is nothing to talk about. He was sealed to his late wife. She said that she has talked to several older widows that have had the same thing happen . It's sad.
I agree very sad.
Funny, I am sealed to my first wife. I fully believe in celestial marriage. My first wife left in adultery and never looked back since. I was only like 50 plus a bit. I'm pretty much an LDS product as far as eternal life and all (now I see it much more clearly than back then), but it never entered my mind to worry about celestial aspects of marriage. Maybe it should have been on my mind. But, what I remember is wanting companionship and love. I found a wonderful woman, she was LDS for a brief, maybe 8 months 30 years ago and divorced twice. I fell deeply in love and knew it was because of a set of miracles from the Lord protecting me and my 11 y/o son, BTW she had one 12 y/o son as well who needed a dad around.
If I had been on the high-and-mighty track, I surely would have dismissed a woman twice divorced, inactive all her life, never been to the temple that hated BY from the get-go! We discussed being sealed a few times, eventually she got her endowments, but her perspective was that unless I broke my sealing with my first wife, she wouldn't jump in and become an eternal "concubine". I would never break my sealing even though my first wife was living in adultery, she is still the mother of my children and was a wonderful wife for 30 years before something happened. Anyway, 3 years back the Lord told me 3 times to take her to the temple. I finally agreed. He told her the same day, while she was at work, to be sealed to me. She said yes. Now we have an eternal marriage and strangely enough it was directed by the Lord and not actually sought out by me or my wife?
I would have missed it all if I had the attitude this man has. I feel he sees the ordinance above the marriage and that is just plain wrong. Only the HSoP can make a marriage eternal.
