Did the daughter of AVOW's owner just accuse her dad of abusing her?!

[petertaylorpedro]

General context from daughter on Chris Parrett being abusive to her...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JM4sWKuNhhc&t=1710s

And here's the accusation at the unnamed perp...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JM4sWKuNhhc&t=3720s

What are your thoughts?

[HereWeGo]

Too bad I left AVOW years ago. I wonder if everyone will rally in defense of Christopher like they did with Chad Daybell. Probably the subject will be banned altogether.

[Reluctant Watchman]

She said “abuse”, not sexual abuse.

[Bookworm101]

She said “abuse”, not sexual abuse.

At the hour 5 min mark she says sexual abuse

[Telavian]

Too bad I left AVOW years ago. I wonder if everyone will rally in defense of Christopher like they did with Chad Daybell. Probably the subject will be banned altogether.

What is AVOW?

[Wolfwoman]

Too bad I left AVOW years ago. I wonder if everyone will rally in defense of Christopher like they did with Chad Daybell. Probably the subject will be banned altogether.

What is AVOW?

A Voice of Warning

A forum for preppers, those who have end time dreams and visions and so forth.

[petertaylorpedro]

The more I listen to this episode, the more I am convinced that it likely was not her dad. Just my gut feel. She clearly doesn't want to disclose any details to protect herself she said.

Regardless, my heart goes out to this woman for having gone through this. Very sad. Glad she has seemingly overcome it and is a strong person who is in a great spot to help others.

Although personally I tire of listening to people (seemingly like all those on Mormon stories who have gone through a faith transition) use all of the lingo no doubt picked up by going to therapy... of how to frame relationships and feelings and the like. Makes we wonder what it would have been like if instead of Nephi, we got the book of laman or lemuel.

[Chip]

It's funny how when she went to college, she realized that her parents were all screwed up. Don't the Marxists that run the colleges make everyone believe that their home life was horrible? I could imagine my own kids someday looking back on things they didn't agree with as "abuse". It was abuse that we had to do dishes, or mow the yard, or clean our rooms, or dress modestly.

[creator]

To avoid a potentially false accusation, I updated the title of the thread. I heard in the video she said her dad was abusive (which can have a wide variety of interpretations).

Later in the video she said "there was sexual abuse in my childhood" but she didn't say who did that.

[Reluctant Watchman]

It would be interesting to hear details about how her dad “abused” her, or what she considers abuse. What she says after the abuse comment is that she felt like she could never measure up to the standards of her dad… and she didn’t feel a lot of love. It sounds like her dad was really strong-willed and quite demanding of his opinions.

I’m not saying that this isn’t abuse, but I can tell you from my upbringing and that of my friends, that most of the kids today would call how our parents raised us “abusive”, when in reality they themselves grew up in very strict households where hard work was the norm and not a lot of “love” was shown. And I’m not saying that’s right either, but I got the crap kicked out of me a few times for being a bonehead. But I can tell you that I learned many wonderful lessons from my dad about hard work ethic, being honest, and being grateful for even the smallest things. Unfortunately, the idea of obedience to dad/leaders also came with that. He softened up later on in his life.

[Reluctant Watchman]

Has anybody had personal interaction with Christopher? What was your experience?

[Juliet]

More and more people are going to be waking up to the trauma that has been occurring in their lives. Funny, when I tried to speak about my own journey of recovering from trauma on both Avow and Pathway to Zion, they threw me out.

The good news is there are modalities that can address trauma that are coming out with new research that have not come out before. You can read about some of them on my blog
www.hedgelinenews.weebly.com/underground

[JuneBug12000]

Has anybody had personal interaction with Christopher? What was your experience?

One time my friend invited me to an event to make rocket stoves. It was comprised of people from AVOW.

It was cool to see people show up on time, and work together on a common goal.

After I was taking to my friend and Christopher about AVOW. Christopher didn't like that I questioned others dreams and Visions of Glory. I flat out told him God told me not to read it and why. He got defensive and still kept trying to get me to join (it costs money.)

I didn't.

The End..

[Lexew1899]

It's funny how when she went to college, she realized that her parents were all screwed up. Don't the Marxists that run the colleges make everyone believe that their home life was horrible? I could imagine my own kids someday looking back on things they didn't agree with as "abuse". It was abuse that we had to do dishes, or mow the yard, or clean our rooms, or dress modestly.

[BringerOfJoy]

It's interesting that prepping is now considered abuse to your kids. (And there may have been other stuff going on but . . . ). We saw that with the Westover daughter and her popular book. "Prepping" used to be something that every rural/farming family did to a certain extent just because if you are out there in the boonies, you need to be able to take care of yourself if you can't get to town, etc. And it's always been a part of LDS-ness because everyone used to be way out here where you had to be somewhat self sufficient. Also having conservative parents is considered a form of extreme abuse by younger folks. And Christopher's a convert so as my cousin used to say, "There's nothing worse than a reformed prostitute or a religious convert, and there's not a dimes worth of difference between the two. I'm a convert myself, so I tend to resent that remark, but I do understand the traps converts then to fall into.

[Luke]

as my cousin used to say, "There's nothing worse than a reformed prostitute or a religious convert, and there's not a dimes worth of difference between the two. I'm a convert myself, so I tend to resent that remark, but I do understand the traps converts then to fall into.

What was his reasoning behind this?

[BringerOfJoy]

as my cousin used to say, "There's nothing worse than a reformed prostitute or a religious convert, and there's not a dimes worth of difference between the two. I'm a convert myself, so I tend to resent that remark, but I do understand the traps converts then to fall into.

What was his reasoning behind this?

His mother was a convert to Catholicism. She made herself (and her kids) literally crazy trying to be the perfect Catholic. She believed it, and she took it very seriously, trying to keep all the rules, have all the children, send them to Catholic schools, etc. Oh, and there's the guilt that Catholic's do (and LDS to an extent) when you can't do all the things. I have another aunt on the other side of the family that did the same thing. Oh, and they both did it with alcoholic husbands which adds to the adventure. It's not an unfamiliar story.

[Shawn Henry]

To avoid a potentially false accusation, I updated the title of the thread. I heard in the video she said her dad was abusive (which can have a wide variety of interpretations).

Later in the video she said "there was sexual abuse in my childhood" but she didn't say who did that.

Yeah, that's what I got out of those two segments.

Not that I want to defend Chris, but he may not have even ever laid a hand on her.

You would think though that she would have been careful to distinguish between the two forms of abuse, as to not leave an implication that it was not her father, but she didn't.

[BringerOfJoy]

To avoid a potentially false accusation, I updated the title of the thread. I heard in the video she said her dad was abusive (which can have a wide variety of interpretations).

Later in the video she said "there was sexual abuse in my childhood" but she didn't say who did that.

Yeah, that's what I got out of those two segments.

Not that I want to defend Chris, but he may not have even ever laid a hand on her.

You would think though that she would have been careful to distinguish between the two forms of abuse, as to not leave an implication that it was not her father, but she didn't.

That can be a thing today: "I was so abused: My parents were conservatives." That seems to be the rallying cry of many of Dehlin's guests. And Dehlin plays right into it: "Oh, you poor person. How did you ever survive? Your parents had food storage? No! Tell me it isn't true!"

Maybe it was more than that, maybe it wasn't. You're right: If she is going to put out those kind of insinuations, she should be clear. Lives get wrecked by that kind of thing. Christopher is not my favorite person on the planet, but he already has plenty to worry about at the moment.