The church is inside out, upside down, and backwards: What was orthodoxy 130 years ago is now heresy, and vice versa.

[Leland41-2]

The church is inside out, upside down, and backwards: What was orthodoxy 130 years ago is now heresy, and vice versa. But who cares about theology and gospel sociology anyway?

After 127 years of relentlessly priestcraft-driven choices, the church is now wrong on almost every imaginable topic. It does seem to get baptism and the sacrament right, perhaps because every word and action is dictated by Scripture on those two points, but otherwise, nearly everything else is wrong. At least dozens, if not hundreds, of doctrine and policy items are in this "wrong” category. There is a limit to how much I can research and how much I can write down and make clear, but we are in a terrible mess, theologically, I can assure you.

I will mention a few specifics. More lengthy and detailed materials are available upon request.

Here are some of my favorites:

– The BYU treatment of evolution is simply wrong -- and there is a priestcraft reason for that, not a gospel reason. The BYU biology department is wrong on the doctrines of evolution and creation, and they are wrong on the science of evolution. BYU hyper-enthusiastically champions atheistic evolution which is 100% contradictory to the concept of creation by God. Also, the actual "science" of evolution is complete nonsense and has been proven wrong at least 100 times by atheist researchers. Evolution "science" is nothing but pure atheist dogma.

– Genealogy goals and procedures make no sense -- and there is a priestcraft reason for that, not a gospel reason. The actual and intentional research duplication rate is somewhere in the range of 400,000. That makes completing the United States or the world absolutely impossible in the time we have left for the earth’s temporal existence (and after that we won’t need it). The world and the gospel would benefit if we finished it, but that would threaten the church's income because people might stop paying tithing, as they now must, just so they can go to the temples. We could finish the United States in a few months, and the entire world in 10 years. But we've been doing this for at least 20 years, so we could have finished everything multiple times over by now.

– The BYU religion department makes no sense, and there is a priestcraft reason for that, not a gospel reason. After nearly 200 years of the church’s existence, we can’t even train our own graduate-level religion teachers, but have to send them to some other “apostate” religious universities for their religion training? A priestcraft reason is that if we have too many smart religion and church history researchers, they are going to point out that the church headquarters makes no sense at all on a host of issues. In general, that group of researchers would compete in many ways with the church central offices. Incidentally, I am trying to do the work of the entire (missing) BYU department here. It is very important to keep the LDS church members ignorant as a group, and even though a few breakout exceptions might occur, hopefully they can be ignored or suppressed or co-opted.

– Even though the U.S. Constitution is incorporated by reference into our Scriptures, the church today does not agree with the First Amendment or the Second Amendment (plus a great deal more, including the entirety) of the U.S. Constitution and its purpose, and there are priestcraft reasons for that, not gospel reasons.

– The church claims to be for families, but they are actually against families, at least when it conflicts with their central office income -- and there is a priestcraft reason for that, not a gospel reason. I'm guessing that enforcing tithing drops two children from the typical family, and government taxation policy, which the church enthusiastically supports, drops another two children from the family, making a total of 4 out of 6 children lost from the typical family through church public policy.

– Actual temple work makes no doctrinal sense -- and there is a priestcraft reason for that, not a gospel reason. I can give more detail on that separately. It takes many pages to explain.

– The church no longer seriously teaches that men can become like gods, and there is a priestcraft reason for that, not a gospel reason. A longer and better explanation is needed.

The LDS church is now very much like the Catholic Church on organization, and like the Protestant church on doctrine. Nothing like assembling the worst of all possible worlds.

I could go on for pages, and for whole books, but you get the idea.

The church has quickly developed nearly as much unintelligible dogma as the Catholic Church, through the same processes, for the same reasons. In the Book of Mormon, I believe dogma and "the traditions of the fathers" are the same thing. We now have our own dogma and "traditions of the fathers." Dogma and propaganda are the ways religion (improperly) exercises temporal power. It prefers the power of mind control to truth.

The church has become a state church, a government-controlled Church, and thus a Satan-controlled Church. Like the Catholic Church, it was promoting freedom-diminishing globalism before there even WAS a United Nations doing that sort of thing.

This kind of reasoning continues in other documents.

Conclusions:
1. The church doesn't have to make sense, on any level, as long as the leaders are making money.

2. In the last 127 years, orthodoxy and heresy have switched places. But who cares about theology anyway?

Summary:
For example, 1) the original standard for cosmology was creationism, but it has been replaced by its opposite, atheistic evolutionism; 2) free-will Charity was the original standard for New Testament Christian behavior, but it has been replaced by its opposite, mandatory tithing; 3) works was the original Christian standard for salvation, but it has been replaced by its opposite, grace, requiring no works, but only a mere statement of belief; and so on.

If the church is wrong and backwards on the above three wide-ranging aspects of religion, I don't know what good it would do to list another 20 such major errors. Whoever is immune to the first three would easily be immune to the rest.

[CaptainM]

I completely agree. I would only suggest that the "Church" was never recognized by the Lord after chapter 15 (chapter 1 being a JS construct added to the front of the book) of the Book of Commandments. The Lord turned that generation over to satan as He promised He would. IMO that is the reason EVERYTHING about the "Church" is so cockamamie.

[Wolfwoman]

It’s debatable whether they even get the baptismal and sacrament prayers right.

Instead of saying “having authority given me of Jesus Christ” they say, “having been commissioned of Jesus Christ”. I think Joseph Smith made the change though, so it might be okay.

Then with the sacrament they changed the word “wine” to “water”.