What is evil speaking?

[Teancum1]

In conversations with a friend he indicated that I am evil speaking as I express my concerns about the current church leadership.
I have shared data regarding Covid and vaccines, concerns about supporting the UN, shared scriptures including Isaiah 9, 28, and 56 regarding prophets among other things.

So the question is: what exactly is evil speaking?

[4Joshua8]

1828 dictionary.
Evilspeaking:
Slander, defamation, calumny, censoriousness.

Defamation and calumny are basically the same as slander.

Slander: a false tale maliciously uttered and tending to injure the reputation of another by lessening him in the esteem of his fellow citizens, by exposing him to impeachment or punishment, or by impairing his means of living.

Censoriousness: disposition to blame and condemn.

So, if what you are speaking is true, it isn't evilspeaking. Be cautious of making assumptions.

Anointed: the Messiah, or Son of God, consecrated to the great office of Redeemer; called the Lord's anointed.

[4Joshua8]

So, who is THE Lord's anointed we shouldn't be evilspeaking of? Jesus Christ.

Really, we shouldn't slander anyone, nor should we be quick to be censorious. And God has anointed others for things: Cyrus, David, etc.

In my opinion, it is wrong to call RMN or any other living "PSR" the Lord's anointed. I don't see any evidence that they have been anointed by God's word. I could be wrong.

[captainfearnot]

1828 dictionary.
Evilspeaking:
Slander, defamation, calumny, censoriousness.

Defamation and calumny are basically the same as slander.

Slander: a false tale maliciously uttered and tending to injure the reputation of another by lessening him in the esteem of his fellow citizens, by exposing him to impeachment or punishment, or by impairing his means of living.

Censoriousness: disposition to blame and condemn.

So, if what you are speaking is true, it isn't evilspeaking. Be cautious of making assumptions.

Anointed: the Messiah, or Son of God, consecrated to the great office of Redeemer; called the Lord's anointed.

From the current "Guide to the Scriptures:"

Evil Speaking

See also Contention; Gossip; Lying; Rumor

Saying things that are wrong, hurtful, and wicked. Often in scripture such speaking is directed at a person with the specific intent to cause pain.

Keep thy tongue from evil, Ps. 34:13 (1 Pet. 3:10).
An ungodly man diggeth up evil, Prov. 16:27.
Blessed are ye, when men shall say all manner of evil against you falsely, Matt. 5:11 (3 Ne. 12:11).
Out of the heart proceed evil thoughts, Matt. 15:19 (Mark 7:21).
Thou shalt not speak evil of the ruler, Acts 23:5.
Let all evil speaking be put away from you, Eph.4:31.
Speak not evil one of another, James 4:11.
See that there is no backbiting, nor evil speaking, D&C 20:54.

I still don't think this defines "evil speaking" very well, but it seems to agree with the 1828 definition that there needs to be some kind of malintent and possibly dishonesty involved. If you are sincerely seeking truth and finding that the brethren are falling short I don't think it's "evil speaking" to point that out.

I'd say what you're guilty of is steadying the ark, not evil speaking.

[Reluctant Watchman]

In conversations with a friend he indicated that I am evil speaking as I express my concerns about the current church leadership.
I have shared data regarding Covid and vaccines, concerns about supporting the UN, shared scriptures including Isaiah 9, 28, and 56 regarding prophets among other things.

So the question is: what exactly is evil speaking?

I think the handbook does a pretty good job of what "evil speaking" means:

Section 32.6.3.2
As used here, apostasy refers to a member engaging in any of the following: Repeatedly acting in clear and deliberate public opposition to the Church, its doctrine, its policies, or its leaders.

Please, do all of us a favor and keep your opinions to yourself when they don't align with the Lord's anointed. You, my friend, are hastening your speed on the path to apostasy.

[Teancum1]

Anointing actually took place when the Prophet would pour oil on the head of the King to be. As in Samuel and David. There seems to be a clear ceremony where this anointing takes place and all the people are aware that it has been done. And the Lord is the one who did it or his specific representative on the earth.

Problem number one to “steadying the ark” as you put it- who anointed Brigham Young and all those who followed thereafter. The scriptures do not delineate a successor after Joseph and who gave the authority to the rest of the twelve to select among themselves a new “Lords anointed”?

If there was not a rightful successor then who can be the Lords anointed today - unless someone is claiming another heavenly messenger who did the anointing?

Problem two- evil speaking against the Lords anointed seems to mean purposefully and knowingly calling the anointed one a liar or saying they have done something that they haven’t done. Pointing out areas where we disagree with policies or changes in doctrine (no longer opposing homosexual marriage and relationships) or that the leadership has joined forces with the UN or pushed a deadly experimental drug on the members—-None of that is evil speaking. It is telling the uncomfortable truth that they are leading the humble followers of Christ astray.

[Teancum1]

In conversations with a friend he indicated that I am evil speaking as I express my concerns about the current church leadership.
I have shared data regarding Covid and vaccines, concerns about supporting the UN, shared scriptures including Isaiah 9, 28, and 56 regarding prophets among other things.

So the question is: what exactly is evil speaking?

I think the handbook does a pretty good job of what "evil speaking" means:

Section 32.6.3.2
As used here, apostasy refers to a member engaging in any of the following: Repeatedly acting in clear and deliberate public opposition to the Church, its doctrine, its policies, or its leaders.

Please, do all of us a favor and keep your opinions to yourself when they don't align with the Lord's anointed. You, my friend, are hastening your speed on the path to apostasy.

Thanks for your support RW!. What this means is that there is no means of voicing any concerns about any decisions that are made without common consent in the church.
Is this how Joseph Smith or the Lord desired the church to be governed? It sounds like tyranny to the extreme.

[Teancum1]

Another phrase often used is found in D&C 121:16-
“Lift up the heel against mine anointed”.

So members are only allowed to have concerns if they voice them in their own minds and never publicly discuss the implications of leadership decisions?
Tyrannical government does this. Not the church of the Firstborn. At least in the church of the Firstborn we can know that the leadership is perfect and has no other ulterior motive than our salvation.

[CaptainM]

In conversations with a friend he indicated that I am evil speaking as I express my concerns about the current church leadership.
I have shared data regarding Covid and vaccines, concerns about supporting the UN, shared scriptures including Isaiah 9, 28, and 56 regarding prophets among other things.

So the question is: what exactly is evil speaking?

A term contrived to be part of the luciferian ceremony performed in his great and spacious buildings around the world.

[Reluctant Watchman]

Thanks for your support RW!. What this means is that there is no means of voicing any concerns about any decisions that are made without common consent in the church.
Is this how Joseph Smith or the Lord desired the church to be governed? It sounds like tyranny to the extreme.

You're welcome. Any time I can help call a friend to repentance and bring him back to the Covenant Path™. And besides, Joseph was special, these men who now govern are too, you and I are not.

PS, know that I love you and God loves you.

[Teancum1]

Thanks for your support RW!. What this means is that there is no means of voicing any concerns about any decisions that are made without common consent in the church.
Is this how Joseph Smith or the Lord desired the church to be governed? It sounds like tyranny to the extreme.

You're welcome. Any time I can help call a friend to repentance and bring him back to the Covenant Path™. And besides, Joseph was special, these men who now govern are too, you and I are not.

PS, know that I love you and God loves you.

Stop it. Now you’re making me cry!

[Reluctant Watchman]

I do love you guys btw. Just putting that out there...

[ransomme]

Lord's anointed: those sealed with His name on their foreheads.
True messengers

Evil speaking: false accusations

[IsaiahVision]

1828 dictionary.
Evilspeaking:
Slander, defamation, calumny, censoriousness.

Defamation and calumny are basically the same as slander.

Slander: a false tale maliciously uttered and tending to injure the reputation of another by lessening him in the esteem of his fellow citizens, by exposing him to impeachment or punishment, or by impairing his means of living.

Censoriousness: disposition to blame and condemn.

So, if what you are speaking is true, it isn't evilspeaking. Be cautious of making assumptions.

Anointed: the Messiah, or Son of God, consecrated to the great office of Redeemer; called the Lord's anointed.

RW,

Better yet, go to Biblehub.com, search for evil-speaking, go to the original Greek definition. It's basically the same as the 1828 Webster's. Evil-speaking does NOT mean criticizing on facts.

https://biblehub.com/greek/2636.htm

[Reluctant Watchman]

RW,

Better yet, go to Biblehub.com, search for evil-speaking, go to the original Greek definition. It's basically the same as the 1828 Webster's. Evil-speaking does NOT mean criticizing on facts.

https://biblehub.com/greek/2636.htm

You need to repent!!

[TheDuke]

In conversations with a friend he indicated that I am evil speaking as I express my concerns about the current church leadership.
I have shared data regarding Covid and vaccines, concerns about supporting the UN, shared scriptures including Isaiah 9, 28, and 56 regarding prophets among other things.

So the question is: what exactly is evil speaking?

As I have said many times “adding evil intent “ with out knowledge or evidence to destroy another person’s faith.

[Rumpelstiltskin]

So the question is: what exactly is evil speaking?

Openly talking about inconvenient truths regarding the problems within the Church.

[nightlight]

It's speaking evilly

[Dave62]

So, who is THE Lord's anointed we shouldn't be evilspeaking of? Jesus Christ.

Really, we shouldn't slander anyone, nor should we be quick to be censorious. And God has anointed others for things: Cyrus, David, etc.

In my opinion, it is wrong to call RMN or any other living "PSR" the Lord's anointed. I don't see any evidence that they have been anointed by God's word. I could be wrong.

Those who have received the washing and anointing with the allegorical blood of Jesus in the temple?

[Say what?]

In the case of Covid and uninspired blunders, I have posted against the brethren, the letter, masks and vaccines. As long as I don’t name call, can I nicely oppose certain actions? I have heard that in their councils they have not always agreed. The commandments and sexual purity I would not oppose. But on certain issues that perhaps the brethren did not have enough knowledge about, May I nicely oppose them without my membership in question?

[Say what?]

In the case of Covid and uninspired blunders, I have posted against the brethren, the letter, mask and vaccines. As long as I don’t name call can I nicely oppose certain actions? I have heard that in their councils they have not always agreed. The commandments and sexual purity I would not oppose. But on certain issues that perhaps the brethren did not have enough knowledge about, May I nicely oppose them without my membership in question?