Church Pushing Climate Change Agenda

[logicalheart]

And the church supported the Covid lockdowns, causing an immeasurable amount of food to be destroyed.

[Hiker]

Another article: https://ourworldindata.org/energy-poverty-air-pollution

3 billion (with a "b") people in the world do not have access to modern energy sources for cooking and heating their home. Yet the Gretas of the world want to ban gas stoves and gas furnaces. Prosperity in the developed world has been built on the backs of fossil fuels, the world's most abundant and reliable source of energy. Now the elites want to deny the poorest of the poor access to this same source of energy. It's awful.

It seems like they just want to deny the western middle class, not the Chinese, of course, or the 3rd worlders.

The only way to have the great reset, is to eliminate the middle class

[Rumpelstiltskin]

It makes me sad to see our church leadership falling for this.

When you're running into the embrace of Babylon, what do you expect?

Oh, Babylon, oh, Babylon, we bid you hello. We're running to meet you as fast as we can go.

[Cruiserdude]

I hope we all see the reality that the corporation has simply joined the 'establishment'. That explains all the things they've done over last few years, if not decades..... Like it or not, it's true.

[ransomme]

I hope we all see the reality that the corporation has simply joined the 'establishment'. That explains all the things they've done over last few years, if not decades..... Like it or not, it's true.

Is it a degree of Stockholm syndrome to feel bad for Church Inc?

If only they would do more of just, "labor diligently to write, to persuade our children, and also our brethren, to believe in Christ, and to be reconciled to God; for we know that it is by grace that we are saved, after all we can do...and...treach unto them repentance, and faith on the Lord Jesus Christ; teach them to humble themselves and to be meek and lowly in heart; teach them to withstand every temptation of the devil, with their faith on the Lord Jesus Christ."

[mudflap]

we're sitting at some of the LOWEST CO2 levels in millions of years:


best thing humans could do would be to drive more.

More CO2 = greener earth.

If you want to talk about "sequestration", well, the best thing you can do for that is to build a cabin:


Imagine how much carbon is sequestered in my 300 ton house...

[Bonhoeffer]

From the footnotes of Causse's talk.
https://ldsearthstewardship.org/

Notice the prominent “DONATE” button in the top right corner of the page. If I didn't know any better I’d think the church was a political action committee. Oh wait…

[Cruiserdude]

we're sitting at some of the LOWEST CO2 levels in millions of years:


best thing humans could do would be to drive more.

More CO2 = greener earth.

If you want to talk about "sequestration", well, the best thing you can do for that is to build a cabin:


Imagine how much carbon is sequestered in my 300 ton house...

That cabin is awesome

[Arm Chair Quarterback]

From the footnotes of Causse's talk.
https://ldsearthstewardship.org/

NO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Arm Chair Quarterback]

Sixty young Latter-day Saint academics attending the 2023 EuroSeminar learned about perspectives on earth stewardship and discussed ways to contribute and get involved. Here's the full article:

https://ldsearthstewardship.org/discuss ... r-in-rome/

In another article LDS Earth Stewards "hide" the truth about trees consuming CO2 in plain sight by saying they "sequester" carbon. LOL. The average human has no clue about the hypocrisy of the statement and since it's the language of the progressive climate change agenda they nod their heads and donate to LDS Earth Stewardship.

"Mangrove trees also filter water, absorb excess nutrients, and sequester carbon." Here's the full article:

https://ldsearthstewardship.org/plantin ... illipines/

[Christianlee]

Maybe they will tell people to quit driving to church again.

[Robin Hood]

https://newsroom.churchofjesuschrist.or ... nce-brazil

https://newsroom.churchofjesuschrist.or ... -creations

I'll be honest. This is pushing me to the edge. I agree that we should be good custodians of the earth, but not only is the war on CO2 a fraud, but it is actually harmful for the environment and, more importantly, it is a war on the poor and middle class. It makes me sad to see our church leadership falling for this. The climate change agenda is pushed by the U.N., the WEF and elites throughout the world to control every aspect of our lives, grind down the poor, reduce our standards of living and, ultimately, reduce the population. There is nothing about it that is in harmony with the gospel of Jesus Christ.

That we have adopted the language of the progressive cultists chills me to the bone. I had no idea the church had a "Sustainability Manager".

Yep, can't remember "common consent" for that one.

[Robin Hood]

Recycling of plastics requires massive amounts of water sprayed on the plastics to clean them. This spraying of water releases microplastics into the environment. Microplastics are a bigger threat than CO2. CO2 may actually be beneficial, but nobody thinks humans should continually be exposed to microplastics. Endorsing recylcing plastics, without addressing this issue is just virtue signalling without genuine concern for the future.

But the bigger issue here is why do these men who represent the Church get involved in this stuff? It is just unforced errors. There was no reason to send an email about vaccines. There is no reason to for Church leaders to attend environmental conferences. They like to give speeches about political neutrality, yet they continual signal political priorities through what they choose to highlight.

Why don't they endorse nuclear energy? oh... I know... it would not be popular. Also.... it is not their role to pick and choose technologies. Just as they should not be involved in endorsing nuclear energy (which in my opinion is the only solution to a CO2 problem, if there is one) they should not be involved in endorsing recycling plastics.

There is a massive problem on this earth of unwed parents and now there is a massive problem of people confused about their gender (this may actually be a result of microplastics in the environment). There is also a massive problem of individuals growing up without the education / skills to be able to earn a living for their families; this is particularly true in many developing countries. These are by far the biggest problems of our time, and taking a stand on these issues IS what the Church is for. The poverty that comes children being raised in broken homes leads to societies with less disposable income and higher crime (which may be so high that crime lords take over your country). If you want ot have a world that is clean of environmental harm, you start with having citizens who care about the santity of family.

In a well ordered society, you can have extra funds to worry about cleaning environmental issues. The cleanest societies are the most wealthy and have the strongest law and order. Two genders + education/job skills -> stable marriage -> a well ordered society -> clean rivers, lakes, air, etc.

Since everyone wants a clean planet, but people have different opinions about how to do it, just giving a random speech about how you want to have a cleaner environment is meaningless virtue signalling. It is basically saying "I'm a good person because I want good things... I really really want them so I am good."

"Recycling" plastic is much more costly and harmful to the environment than throwing it in the garbage.

https://www.city-journal.org/article/on ... astic-away

Most of our plastic "recycling" gets sent to Asia where a lot of it ends up in the oceans. We'd be much better off and we'd save a lot of money if we just buried it in the landfill.

Much of it still ends up in landfill. I suspect in years to come, government agencies will grant mining licences to companies wishing to excavate old landfill sites in order to extract the oil from the plastics.

[Christianlee]

I’m 70. They won’t have to deal with my carbon footprint much longer. I am sure I won’t be unhappy to leave all this nonsense. I can’t believe how much this has accelerated in the last 15 years. All the young are getting played.

[Mamabear]

More lies:

“The church has published a topics page on Environmental Stewardship and Conservation, calling humans “stewards over the earth” who should “gratefully use what God has given” by avoiding wastefulness and helping the poor.”
150 billion+ is wasteful and doesn’t help the poor.

“Elder Christofferson said that “caring for our bodies, protecting the sacredness of life, and PROMOTING POLITICAL AND RELIGIOUS PARTICIPATION are all elements of our stewardship of God’s creations.”
No.

“Bishop Caussé noted six specific ways the church as an organization is working to reduce waste, including:
….#6 Practicing sustainable building techniques and being mindful of resources, site selection and long-term support.”

Or stop building temples that won’t be used and will just make Mormon contractors wealthier.

[MikeMaillet]

We cannot deny that we are polluting the planet and this is due mostly to our world of manufacturing. We are the ones fuelling this problem with our insatiable lust for the things of this world, things that require metal, plastics, packaging, shipping... Also, in order to procure the world's goods we need money and it's game over as soon as currency is introduced in a society. The Satanists will eventually bribe/blackmail politicians to pass laws that create central banks. Our use of Satanic money is what allows for the manufacture and purchase of tanks, bombers and guns that will eventually be used to kill us. We need to remember the Book of Mormon, the covenant extended to the Gentiles to build Zion. There are no factories nor money in Zion but there are great sales on plastic statues at the church-owned mall.

I'll be 66 years old in a few weeks and I really don't know what to do but I do know that our world of manufacturing is not good for us and that we need to somehow get away from the trinkets and the niceties of life. Our job was and still is to establish Zion.

Isaiah 2: 7-8

7) Their land is full of silver and gold
and there is no end to their wealth;
their land is full of horses
and there is no end to their chariots.

8) Their land is full of idols:
they adore the works of their hands,
things their own fingers have made.

Mike

[RosyPosy]

This sums up the problem with electric cars.
https://youtube.com/shorts/-hfe76LrkRk? ... A-6h3f7rYR

My personal ditch against the church allying with Marxism is getting deeper and deeper. It literally pisses me off!

[Christianlee]

This sums up the problem with electric cars.
https://youtube.com/shorts/-hfe76LrkRk? ... A-6h3f7rYR

My personal ditch against the church allying with Marxism is getting deeper and deeper. It literally pisses me off!

It isn’t the Church I thought I joined 50 years ago. The Church should stay in its lane instead of focusing on climate change lunacy.

[RosyPosy]

This sums up the problem with electric cars.
https://youtube.com/shorts/-hfe76LrkRk? ... A-6h3f7rYR

My personal ditch against the church allying with Marxism is getting deeper and deeper. It literally pisses me off!

It isn’t the Church I thought I joined 50 years ago. The Church should stay in its lane instead of focusing on climate change lunacy.

Needless to say this is possibly the nail in the coffin for me. I already sent an email to my stake president stating these issues. And I'm not going to any gospel related meeting anymore. Most in my ward/community are good people and I'll still talk to them. But no more am I going to be a subject to precepts of men or Marxism for that matter.

[Hiker]

Another article: https://ourworldindata.org/energy-poverty-air-pollution

3 billion (with a "b") people in the world do not have access to modern energy sources for cooking and heating their home. Yet the Gretas of the world want to ban gas stoves and gas furnaces. Prosperity in the developed world has been built on the backs of fossil fuels, the world's most abundant and reliable source of energy. Now the elites want to deny the poorest of the poor access to this same source of energy. It's awful.

It seems like they just want to deny the western middle class, not the Chinese, of course, or the 3rd worlders.

The only way to have the great reset, is to eliminate the middle class

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Klaus Schwab blames the middle class for holding back the fourth industrial revolution, and Biden is nodding his head in agreement.

[Niemand]

Much of it still ends up in landfill. I suspect in years to come, government agencies will grant mining licences to companies wishing to excavate old landfill sites in order to extract the oil from the plastics.

We're living in the Plastic Age. Not as glamorous sounding as the Iron Age or Bronze Age.

The climate change agenda leads to absurdities like Scotland cutting down millions of trees to make way for wind turbines. Nobody explained to them that trees consume CO2!

https://www.scottishdailyexpress.co.uk/ ... s-30510623

I am well aware of this situation. It's made worse by the fact that most of Scotland has little tree cover, certainly not some of the areas I used to live in.

[TwochurchesOnly]

This sums up the problem with electric cars.
https://youtube.com/shorts/-hfe76LrkRk? ... A-6h3f7rYR

My personal ditch against the church allying with Marxism is getting deeper and deeper. It literally pisses me off!

It isn’t the Church I thought I joined 50 years ago. The Church should stay in its lane instead of focusing on climate change lunacy.

Needless to say this is possibly the nail in the coffin for me. I already sent an email to my stake president stating these issues. And I'm not going to any gospel related meeting anymore. Most in my ward/community are good people and I'll still talk to them. But no more am I going to be a subject to precepts of men or Marxism for that matter.

precepts of men/marxism line up, lesson schedule sent to my inbox yesterday -- Thanks for the warning !
not interested in ANYTHING these posers have to say.
as much as hearing themselves talk in GC, they must be thrilled knowing that the "church" is studying their words each week - as if it were true revelation.
lol typos

[Dusty Wanderer]

But the bigger issue here is why do these men who represent the Church get involved in this stuff? It is just unforced errors. There was no reason to send an email about vaccines. There is no reason to for Church leaders to attend environmental conferences. They like to give speeches about political neutrality, yet they continual signal political priorities through what they choose to highlight.

I'm sure this was meant to be rhetorical, but I hate to pass up an opportunity to remind everyone...

Because they desire the respect and adoration of the world, and because of their obligations to the World Economic Forum, to which they are now bound.

[TheDuke]

https://newsroom.churchofjesuschrist.or ... nce-brazil

https://newsroom.churchofjesuschrist.or ... -creations

I'll be honest. This is pushing me to the edge. I agree that we should be good custodians of the earth, but not only is the war on CO2 a fraud, but it is actually harmful for the environment and, more importantly, it is a war on the poor and middle class. It makes me sad to see our church leadership falling for this. The climate change agenda is pushed by the U.N., the WEF and elites throughout the world to control every aspect of our lives, grind down the poor, reduce our standards of living and, ultimately, reduce the population. There is nothing about it that is in harmony with the gospel of Jesus Christ.

I read both of these. I see NOTHING here about climate agenda. Not one word. I see things that I personally accept, recycling, energy efficiency, crop rotation, etc....

Where exactly did you come up with the CO2 fraud here? I know CO2 attacking is fraudulent. But please post quotes from these two sources that say such. Perhaps I just missed it tall?

[Serragon]

https://newsroom.churchofjesuschrist.or ... nce-brazil

https://newsroom.churchofjesuschrist.or ... -creations

I'll be honest. This is pushing me to the edge. I agree that we should be good custodians of the earth, but not only is the war on CO2 a fraud, but it is actually harmful for the environment and, more importantly, it is a war on the poor and middle class. It makes me sad to see our church leadership falling for this. The climate change agenda is pushed by the U.N., the WEF and elites throughout the world to control every aspect of our lives, grind down the poor, reduce our standards of living and, ultimately, reduce the population. There is nothing about it that is in harmony with the gospel of Jesus Christ.

I read both of these. I see NOTHING here about climate agenda. Not one word. I see things that I personally accept, recycling, energy efficiency, crop rotation, etc....

Where exactly did you come up with the CO2 fraud here? I know CO2 attacking is fraudulent. But please post quotes from these two sources that say such. Perhaps I just missed it tall?

All of the things you just mentioned as not being part of the climate agenda are part of the climate agenda. But if you define things as you did, specifically that things you accept are not part of the climate agenda, it will be very difficult for you to see that. This is a very convenient definition for you by the way.

Where is the CO2 fraud? Point #4 and Point #6 by Bishop Cause. Why would the church be working to reduce emissions as one of its primary goals in helping the environment if they did not believe in the fraud that increased emissions are harmful to the planet. Why would "greenhouse gas capture" be a priority on their farms unless they believed in the fraud?

How about point #3? The church is moving to recycled sacrament cups for the specific reason that it reduces carbon emissions. Not that it is cheaper or more efficient. Carbon emissions.

But you are right. NOT ONE WORD!!!