Church Pushing Climate Change Agenda

[Tall.Traveler]

https://newsroom.churchofjesuschrist.or ... nce-brazil

https://newsroom.churchofjesuschrist.or ... -creations

I'll be honest. This is pushing me to the edge. I agree that we should be good custodians of the earth, but not only is the war on CO2 a fraud, but it is actually harmful for the environment and, more importantly, it is a war on the poor and middle class. It makes me sad to see our church leadership falling for this. The climate change agenda is pushed by the U.N., the WEF and elites throughout the world to control every aspect of our lives, grind down the poor, reduce our standards of living and, ultimately, reduce the population. There is nothing about it that is in harmony with the gospel of Jesus Christ.

[Fred]

The only purpose is to destroy God's creation, earth. Just like the only reason for the jab was to destroy God's creation, man.
Only disciples of satan promote either. The church promotes both.

[Peeps]

Yes, it is a farce, CO2 is actually good for the environment, it is vital for life. I guess they don't teach this in school anymore, for my granddaughter in middle school, said she didn't know that plants/trees breathe in CO2 we exhale, and breathe out O2 that we need to inhale.

[Moroni104]

Recycling of plastics requires massive amounts of water sprayed on the plastics to clean them. This spraying of water releases microplastics into the environment. Microplastics are a bigger threat than CO2. CO2 may actually be beneficial, but nobody thinks humans should continually be exposed to microplastics. Endorsing recylcing plastics, without addressing this issue is just virtue signalling without genuine concern for the future.

But the bigger issue here is why do these men who represent the Church get involved in this stuff? It is just unforced errors. There was no reason to send an email about vaccines. There is no reason to for Church leaders to attend environmental conferences. They like to give speeches about political neutrality, yet they continual signal political priorities through what they choose to highlight.

Why don't they endorse nuclear energy? oh... I know... it would not be popular. Also.... it is not their role to pick and choose technologies. Just as they should not be involved in endorsing nuclear energy (which in my opinion is the only solution to a CO2 problem, if there is one) they should not be involved in endorsing recycling plastics.

There is a massive problem on this earth of unwed parents and now there is a massive problem of people confused about their gender (this may actually be a result of microplastics in the environment). There is also a massive problem of individuals growing up without the education / skills to be able to earn a living for their families; this is particularly true in many developing countries. These are by far the biggest problems of our time, and taking a stand on these issues IS what the Church is for. The poverty that comes children being raised in broken homes leads to societies with less disposable income and higher crime (which may be so high that crime lords take over your country). If you want ot have a world that is clean of environmental harm, you start with having citizens who care about the santity of family.

In a well ordered society, you can have extra funds to worry about cleaning environmental issues. The cleanest societies are the most wealthy and have the strongest law and order. Two genders + education/job skills -> stable marriage -> a well ordered society -> clean rivers, lakes, air, etc.

Since everyone wants a clean planet, but people have different opinions about how to do it, just giving a random speech about how you want to have a cleaner environment is meaningless virtue signalling. It is basically saying "I'm a good person because I want good things... I really really want them so I am good."

[Pathway2DaCross]

The church could learn a lot from the Amish.

[Being There]

The church could learn a lot from the Amish.

"ya I think I'd be happy living like the Amish"
viewtopic.php?p=1431221&hilit=Amish#p1431221

[Serragon]

Yes, it is a farce, CO2 is actually good for the environment, it is vital for life. I guess they don't teach this in school anymore, for my granddaughter in middle school, said she didn't know that plants/trees breathe in CO2 we exhale, and breathe out O2 that we need to inhale.

The idea that CO2 is a pollutant comes from the idea that increased CO2 will cause out of control feedback loops that will turn the earth into Venus.

This is the one lie that all climate hysteria rests upon.

Without the made up feedback loops, increased CO2 would actually be a large net advantage for the earth and its inhabitants.

[Serragon]

https://newsroom.churchofjesuschrist.or ... nce-brazil

https://newsroom.churchofjesuschrist.or ... -creations

I'll be honest. This is pushing me to the edge. I agree that we should be good custodians of the earth, but not only is the war on CO2 a fraud, but it is actually harmful for the environment and, more importantly, it is a war on the poor and middle class. It makes me sad to see our church leadership falling for this. The climate change agenda is pushed by the U.N., the WEF and elites throughout the world to control every aspect of our lives, grind down the poor, reduce our standards of living and, ultimately, reduce the population. There is nothing about it that is in harmony with the gospel of Jesus Christ.

That we have adopted the language of the progressive cultists chills me to the bone. I had no idea the church had a "Sustainability Manager".

[Bonhoeffer]

Man, they’re covering everything! They’re “rooting out racism” pushing the UN sustainable development goals place pedophiles & known sexual predators in positions of high leadership They’re on track to have the highest ESG scores out there! Darn, we’re still too white for that. Oh, & we still don’t allow gay marriage in our temples but I’m sure they’re on that too. Stay tuned! So much “progress!”

In the meantime we’d better act fast on those racist little boogers in primary so I’ve got a new song in the works for everyone’s upcoming primary program:

Adam was a racist, first one that was born, he had other racists till the earth was warm.
His racist little babies, made this world all hot, now we’re trying to fix it before it turns to rot.

[Bonhoeffer]

We are fitting in perfectly with the world leaders. Forgot to add Nelson got a huge amount of members to even take the mark of the beast, damaging their hearts & ability to procreate forever and on top of calling pedos & known sexual predators to positions of high leadership, when a person/child is abused & tells their bishop they cover that up too! No wonder the UN Pres gave Nelson such praise!

[Fred]

Recycling of plastics requires massive amounts of water sprayed on the plastics to clean them. This spraying of water releases microplastics into the environment. Microplastics are a bigger threat than CO2. CO2 may actually be beneficial, but nobody thinks humans should continually be exposed to microplastics. Endorsing recylcing plastics, without addressing this issue is just virtue signalling without genuine concern for the future.

But the bigger issue here is why do these men who represent the Church get involved in this stuff? It is just unforced errors. There was no reason to send an email about vaccines. There is no reason to for Church leaders to attend environmental conferences. They like to give speeches about political neutrality, yet they continual signal political priorities through what they choose to highlight.

Why don't they endorse nuclear energy? oh... I know... it would not be popular. Also.... it is not their role to pick and choose technologies. Just as they should not be involved in endorsing nuclear energy (which in my opinion is the only solution to a CO2 problem, if there is one) they should not be involved in endorsing recycling plastics.

There is a massive problem on this earth of unwed parents and now there is a massive problem of people confused about their gender (this may actually be a result of microplastics in the environment). There is also a massive problem of individuals growing up without the education / skills to be able to earn a living for their families; this is particularly true in many developing countries. These are by far the biggest problems of our time, and taking a stand on these issues IS what the Church is for. The poverty that comes children being raised in broken homes leads to societies with less disposable income and higher crime (which may be so high that crime lords take over your country). If you want ot have a world that is clean of environmental harm, you start with having citizens who care about the santity of family.

In a well ordered society, you can have extra funds to worry about cleaning environmental issues. The cleanest societies are the most wealthy and have the strongest law and order. Two genders + education/job skills -> stable marriage -> a well ordered society -> clean rivers, lakes, air, etc.

Since everyone wants a clean planet, but people have different opinions about how to do it, just giving a random speech about how you want to have a cleaner environment is meaningless virtue signalling. It is basically saying "I'm a good person because I want good things... I really really want them so I am good."

You are absolutely right! The church did not have to endorse any satanic activity. They did it because they WANTED to. It makes Lucifer happy. He rewards them with riches.

[Erastothenes]

Oh no! Someone speaking about conservation and being good stewards of the Earth that God gave us! How dare they! Good heavens. I have worked in the engineering field for a long time. Guess what. Petroleum based fuels are dirty and pollute a lot. It would be great if one day we found an alternative. Cutting down lots of trees isnt good for anyone. Trust me. I spent my 20s racing through the deserts of Nevada, California, Arizona and Mexico. I am in no way a " tree hugger." But I do believe that we need to use less and take better care of our land. I dont believe in man made climate.change but I do believe pollution is bad and we need to make a lot less of it. What a novel idea.

[Hiker]

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Here's the profit getting his orders. Same place where he got the inspiration for the “godsend”

I keep telling my friends church that when we are struggling to keep our freedoms, church will be absent in fact they will be fighting against us.

[Libertas Est Salus]

Oh no! Someone speaking about conservation and being good stewards of the Earth that God gave us! How dare they! Good heavens. I have worked in the engineering field for a long time. Guess what. Petroleum based fuels are dirty and pollute a lot. It would be great if one day we found an alternative. Cutting down lots of trees isnt good for anyone. Trust me. I spent my 20s racing through the deserts of Nevada, California, Arizona and Mexico. I am in no way a " tree hugger." But I do believe that we need to use less and take better care of our land. I dont believe in man made climate.change but I do believe pollution is bad and we need to make a lot less of it. What a novel idea.

I think you're being disingenuous. Surely you'd acknowledge that not a single person here would be bothered by the message to be good stewards of the earth. The gripe is with the fact that they're embracing the climate change agenda—which is not about being good stewards, but rather increasing government control and ultimately furthering the agenda of the globalist conspiracy. The gripe is with yet one more instance of the church leaders' apparent inability to recognize the fulfillment of Moroni's warning in Ether 8, not to mention Nephi's warning about the gentiles uniting with the Great and Abominable Church.

[Serragon]

Oh no! Someone speaking about conservation and being good stewards of the Earth that God gave us! How dare they! Good heavens. I have worked in the engineering field for a long time. Guess what. Petroleum based fuels are dirty and pollute a lot. It would be great if one day we found an alternative. Cutting down lots of trees isnt good for anyone. Trust me. I spent my 20s racing through the deserts of Nevada, California, Arizona and Mexico. I am in no way a " tree hugger." But I do believe that we need to use less and take better care of our land. I dont believe in man made climate.change but I do believe pollution is bad and we need to make a lot less of it. What a novel idea.

Compared to the benefits of oil and coal, they effects of pollution are extremely small.

There are better alternatives. They are nuclear and hydro. Both very safe and very clean. And opposed by those who claim to want to transition to sustainable and clean alternatives.

It actually helps many people to cut down trees. Especially if you replant them. I would suggest that your experience living in places where trees don't grow does not enhance the credibility of your opinion. I grew up in a logging town. Our town would have went out of business naturally if we didn't harvest the trees in a rational manner. But instead of allowing that, the predecessors to the folks our church leaders are hanging out with created a lie about a new breed of spotted owl that could only live in old growth forests. Based on this lie by the new friends of our leaders, our community and many others were irreparably harmed. Most of these small logging communities are now hotbeds of drugs, welfare, and dependancy thanks to our new friends.

[Tall.Traveler]

Recycling of plastics requires massive amounts of water sprayed on the plastics to clean them. This spraying of water releases microplastics into the environment. Microplastics are a bigger threat than CO2. CO2 may actually be beneficial, but nobody thinks humans should continually be exposed to microplastics. Endorsing recylcing plastics, without addressing this issue is just virtue signalling without genuine concern for the future.

But the bigger issue here is why do these men who represent the Church get involved in this stuff? It is just unforced errors. There was no reason to send an email about vaccines. There is no reason to for Church leaders to attend environmental conferences. They like to give speeches about political neutrality, yet they continual signal political priorities through what they choose to highlight.

Why don't they endorse nuclear energy? oh... I know... it would not be popular. Also.... it is not their role to pick and choose technologies. Just as they should not be involved in endorsing nuclear energy (which in my opinion is the only solution to a CO2 problem, if there is one) they should not be involved in endorsing recycling plastics.

There is a massive problem on this earth of unwed parents and now there is a massive problem of people confused about their gender (this may actually be a result of microplastics in the environment). There is also a massive problem of individuals growing up without the education / skills to be able to earn a living for their families; this is particularly true in many developing countries. These are by far the biggest problems of our time, and taking a stand on these issues IS what the Church is for. The poverty that comes children being raised in broken homes leads to societies with less disposable income and higher crime (which may be so high that crime lords take over your country). If you want ot have a world that is clean of environmental harm, you start with having citizens who care about the santity of family.

In a well ordered society, you can have extra funds to worry about cleaning environmental issues. The cleanest societies are the most wealthy and have the strongest law and order. Two genders + education/job skills -> stable marriage -> a well ordered society -> clean rivers, lakes, air, etc.

Since everyone wants a clean planet, but people have different opinions about how to do it, just giving a random speech about how you want to have a cleaner environment is meaningless virtue signalling. It is basically saying "I'm a good person because I want good things... I really really want them so I am good."

"Recycling" plastic is much more costly and harmful to the environment than throwing it in the garbage.

https://www.city-journal.org/article/on ... astic-away

Most of our plastic "recycling" gets sent to Asia where a lot of it ends up in the oceans. We'd be much better off and we'd save a lot of money if we just buried it in the landfill.

[Seed Starter]

The church's actions on so many issues are unsustainable. Members who remain silent on this issue are complicit in what is coming. As a teen my mother had the hardest time waking me up for school. Her asking and even yelling had no impact. Then one summer morning I got a cup of water dumped on me. She had my attention for a while. Then I started ignoring that. Then she pulled out the big guns. She said if I didn't get up I couldn't shower before school. For a teen this is pretty scary. I remember showering with the hose in the backyard wearing shorts one crisp fall morning. I learned my lesson until school ended that year. I thought I could sleep in until 10 or 11 during summer break. I did this until one late morning I saw the garden hose passing through my bedroom window. She was serious. I got out of bed and we had an understanding

Much of the church membership and leadership need to be shown a garden hose to awaken to our awful situation.

[Tall.Traveler]

Oh no! Someone speaking about conservation and being good stewards of the Earth that God gave us! How dare they! Good heavens. I have worked in the engineering field for a long time. Guess what. Petroleum based fuels are dirty and pollute a lot. It would be great if one day we found an alternative. Cutting down lots of trees isnt good for anyone. Trust me. I spent my 20s racing through the deserts of Nevada, California, Arizona and Mexico. I am in no way a " tree hugger." But I do believe that we need to use less and take better care of our land. I dont believe in man made climate.change but I do believe pollution is bad and we need to make a lot less of it. What a novel idea.

Do you believe CO2 is a pollutant?

[Tall.Traveler]

The climate change agenda leads to absurdities like Scotland cutting down millions of trees to make way for wind turbines. Nobody explained to them that trees consume CO2!

https://www.scottishdailyexpress.co.uk/ ... s-30510623

[Tall.Traveler]

Another article: https://ourworldindata.org/energy-poverty-air-pollution

3 billion (with a "b") people in the world do not have access to modern energy sources for cooking and heating their home. Yet the Gretas of the world want to ban gas stoves and gas furnaces. Prosperity in the developed world has been built on the backs of fossil fuels, the world's most abundant and reliable source of energy. Now the elites want to deny the poorest of the poor access to this same source of energy. It's awful.

[Chip]

Another article: https://ourworldindata.org/energy-poverty-air-pollution

3 billion (with a "b") people in the world do not have access to modern energy sources for cooking and heating their home. Yet the Gretas of the world want to ban gas stoves and gas furnaces. Prosperity in the developed world has been built on the backs of fossil fuels, the world's most abundant and reliable source of energy. Now the elites want to deny the poorest of the poor access to this same source of energy. It's awful.

It seems like they just want to deny the western middle class, not the Chinese, of course, or the 3rd worlders.

[CuriousThinker]

From the footnotes of Causse's talk.
https://ldsearthstewardship.org/

[Chip]

From the footnotes of Causse's talk.
https://ldsearthstewardship.org/

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[Chip]

From the footnotes of Causse's talk.
https://ldsearthstewardship.org/

Do you have the link to the page where this footnote was listed?

[CuriousThinker]

From the footnotes of Causse's talk.
https://ldsearthstewardship.org/

Do you have the link to the page where this footnote was listed?

https://newsroom.churchofjesuschrist.or ... -creations
Footnote 13