Etymology of Gadianton

[Subcomandante]

GAD: Fortune
YAH: Shortened form of Jehovah
NTON: Passive form of NATAN, to give.

In other words:

Fortune is given by Yah(weh).

Nefarious folks indeed. The Nephites were fooled into supporting them because they utilized their language to mean that they were the true holy people and they were the keepers of the secrets of old. The Lamanites, not really having this care to look back at this timeframe, looked at the Gadiantons like they were crazy and refused to join their ranks.

In another post I mentioned how the infiltrators from the Left love to couch their language. They don't want to be seen with words that would be radioactive or shunned by the people. Being called a Communist or a Socialist is a no-go in the United States. So they changed their mentality to "Liberal" or "Progressive" which had a double entendre: If you supported them, you were in favor of progress in the country, perhaps to "form a more perfect Union", and if you opposed them, you would be called a "regressive" or a "traditionalist" or a "caveman" amongst other apellatives.

We see this in the Book of Mormon. There is a reason why the name of Nehor fell into disuse before we get halfway across Alma. The name was associated with the destruction of Ammonihah and their rebellions against Alma. So we start seeing from them, Amalekites and Amulonites in the Book of Mormon. Many of them end up dead in subsequent wars.

The Zoramites then start to form their own group, yet take upon themselves many of the teachings of the Nehors. They are caught in their apostasy and their name starts to become radioactive.

Then you find the Gadiantons who considered themselves the chosen of Yahweh. The fortunate ones, kind of adopting Zoramite (and Nehorite) doctrine to go with their plans. The doctrine essentially remained the same. All they did was change the name to make it more palatable to the people at large.

For the Nephites, it worked, as they used many words that they were already familiar with. For the Lamanites it didn't work, because they didn't focus on those things as much, and when they converted, they didn't fall away nor were hoodwinked by the Gadiantons.

We unfortunately see this ideology infiltrate in our institutions. Again, it is not so much the PEOPLE that we have to fight against, but the IDEOLOGY. It is especially pernicious. And I think that the reason why Utah has fallen so hard (as well as several Church leaders) is because the adversary is speaking OUR religious language.

[4Joshua8]

We unfortunately see this ideology infiltrate in our institutions. Again, it is not so much the PEOPLE that we have to fight against, but the IDEOLOGY. It is especially pernicious. And I think that the reason why Utah has fallen so hard (as well as several Church leaders) is because the adversary is speaking OUR religious language.

Yeah he is. One way he does it is by overemphasizing and tweaking the meaning of certain values like love, acceptance, and positivity while either leaving out or making other values look bad like judgement, truth, and justice.

Then he applies the “positive” values to evil while applying the “negative” values to good.

It works well, especially on teenaged girls and their mothers, but increasingly on the men…(no offense to any mothers on this forum).

[Rubicon]

I think that the -on ending names in the Book of Mormon (Morianton, Moron, etc.) come from Jaradite influence (so, I'm not sure how much credence to give Hebrew there). Gadianton was tapping into the Jaredite secret combination tradition, and his name showed that influence as well.

[BigFootCain]

We unfortunately see this ideology infiltrate in our institutions. Again, it is not so much the PEOPLE that we have to fight against, but the IDEOLOGY. It is especially pernicious. And I think that the reason why Utah has fallen so hard (as well as several Church leaders) is because the adversary is speaking OUR religious language.

Yeah he is. One way he does it is by overemphasizing and tweaking the meaning of certain values like love, acceptance, and positivity while either leaving out or making other values look bad like judgement, truth, and justice.

Then he applies the “positive” values to evil while applying the “negative” values to good.

It works well, especially on teenaged girls and their mothers, but increasingly on the men…(no offense to any mothers on this forum).

This use of using language to distort truth is one of the thing that chaps my rear end the most, especially the distortion of what love is. It is not affirmation or never criticizing behavior or choices. I know I'm preaching to the choir but it's been a plague in the church for quite some time and is just getting exponentially worse.

I wish the Church and it's members would remember that whom the Lord loves, He chastens (D&C 95:1, Hebrews 12:6). God loves us and wants us to be with Him, so of course He corrects us and tells us what we need to do in order to make being in His presence a reality.

If He didn't love us then he would feed us the BS that we are perfect the way we are and that it's totally fine to just live our truth, essentially saying "you do you, it's all cool. bro". It's so unfortunate that so many that have a knowledge of the truth fall for these lies and manipulations.

[Niemand]

"Gad" can also mean a soldier in Hebrew.

Look at what else we can find:
https://www.abarim-publications.com/Dic ... g-d-d.html

The verb גדד (gadad), means to cut or invade but with a very special connotation.

According to HAW Theological Wordbook of the Old Testament, in nine out of eleven occurrences this verb specifically refers to forbidden self-laceration in an act of worship (Deuteronomy 14:1, 1 Kings 18:28, Jeremiah 16:6). And when in Genesis 49:19 Jacob blesses his sons on his deathbed, he says of Gad (whose name comes from this verb):

The masculine noun גדוד (gedud), meaning a band of raiders, possibly (as BDB Theological Dictionary suggests) in the sense of invaders or a guerilla group severed from a main group or society (1 Samuel 30:8, 1 Kings 11:24). In later Scriptures this word also came to denote military divisions in Israel (1 Chronicles 7:4, Micah 5:1).

[larsenb]

GAD: Fortune
YAH: Shortened form of Jehovah
NTON: Passive form of NATAN, to give.

In other words:

Fortune is given by Yah(weh).

Nefarious folks indeed. The Nephites were fooled into supporting them because they utilized their language to mean that they were the true holy people and they were the keepers of the secrets of old. The Lamanites, not really having this care to look back at this timeframe, looked at the Gadiantons like they were crazy and refused to join their ranks.

In another post I mentioned how the infiltrators from the Left love to couch their language. They don't want to be seen with words that would be radioactive or shunned by the people. Being called a Communist or a Socialist is a no-go in the United States. So they changed their mentality to "Liberal" or "Progressive" which had a double entendre: If you supported them, you were in favor of progress in the country, perhaps to "form a more perfect Union", and if you opposed them, you would be called a "regressive" or a "traditionalist" or a "caveman" amongst other apellatives.

We see this in the Book of Mormon. There is a reason why the name of Nehor fell into disuse before we get halfway across Alma. The name was associated with the destruction of Ammonihah and their rebellions against Alma. So we start seeing from them, Amalekites and Amulonites in the Book of Mormon. Many of them end up dead in subsequent wars.

The Zoramites then start to form their own group, yet take upon themselves many of the teachings of the Nehors. They are caught in their apostasy and their name starts to become radioactive.

Then you find the Gadiantons who considered themselves the chosen of Yahweh. The fortunate ones, kind of adopting Zoramite (and Nehorite) doctrine to go with their plans. The doctrine essentially remained the same. All they did was change the name to make it more palatable to the people at large.

For the Nephites, it worked, as they used many words that they were already familiar with. For the Lamanites it didn't work, because they didn't focus on those things as much, and when they converted, they didn't fall away nor were hoodwinked by the Gadiantons.

We unfortunately see this ideology infiltrate in our institutions. Again, it is not so much the PEOPLE that we have to fight against, but the IDEOLOGY. It is especially pernicious. And I think that the reason why Utah has fallen so hard (as well as several Church leaders) is because the adversary is speaking OUR religious language.

Interesting discourse. For the original Gadianton, however, his personal name would be completely acceptable. A good name to have. But for the group he helped start and head, a good decoy masking their real purpose.