Rob Smith creating an official ministry now?

[Silver Pie]

It is a joke about Phil Davis vigorously pleasuring himself while issuing a stream of profanities. I don't think he is implying Rob does that. It was just a joke.

I didn't hear about the stream of profanities, but yeah - just a joke; not implying Rob would do that.

[jack]

Is there something you would like to share with the class?

If not, cheap shots like this are not very becoming.

Edit: The same goes to anyone who "liked" that post smh

It is a joke about Phil Davis vigorously pleasuring himself while issuing a stream of profanities. I don't think he is implying Rob does that. It was just a joke.

It’s only a joke if everyone gets it. Otherwise it’s just taking potshots at a guy

[jack]

I hope Rob remembers to log off of his zoom calls before handling his personal business.

Is there something you would like to share with the class?

If not, cheap shots like this are not very becoming.

Edit: The same goes to anyone who "liked" that post smh

He wasn't talking about Rob; he was talking about the guy who didn't realize his zoom was still recording while he was jacking off during a break in a zoom meeting. It was big news for a while.

Sure. He was taking a cheap shot trying to get people to associate Rob with that little dig.

[Atrasado]

It makes me sad to see this. I've learned some things from Rob. I really hope he pulls out of the spiral he's in. I know from personal experience his temper is something he struggles with; he really is his own worst enemy.

[Silver Pie]

Sure. He was taking a cheap shot trying to get people to associate Rob with that little dig.

Well, I have to admit that it came out of left field - but I would 1,000% not believe Rob would ever do something like that. I don't know what triggered Shawn Henry to make that joke, but I didn't take it seriously, because it's about as realistic to me as saying a mouse can engineer a space rocket. It just wouldn't happen.

[Silver Pie]

It’s only a joke if everyone gets it. Otherwise it’s just taking potshots at a guy

Good point.

[jack]

Look guys, I’m just as confused about this as any of you, but I am unwilling to take shots at a guy just because I happen to disagree with him. Especially someone who everyone seems to agree has given a LOT of his time and effort.

I’m inclined to give him the benefit of the doubt here.

[Mamabear]

Look guys, I’m just as confused about this as any of you, but I am unwilling to take shots at a guy just because I happen to disagree with him. Especially someone who everyone seems to agree has given a LOT of his time and effort.

I’m inclined to give him the benefit of the doubt here.

Hi Rob.

[BuriedTartaria]

Look guys, I’m just as confused about this as any of you, but I am unwilling to take shots at a guy just because I happen to disagree with him. Especially someone who everyone seems to agree has given a LOT of his time and effort.

I’m inclined to give him the benefit of the doubt here.

I see what you are saying. I feel I've avoided taking shots at him (I've tried to not harp on Phil Davis' issue as well). I don't think any criticism I've voiced has come across in a mocking or malicious tone and he has criticized a lot (people, groups, churches, entire religions, etc) in his writing. It's foolish to think he should be protected from criticism. I hope Rob continues to find monetary success and familial success. I'm grateful for the lessons on sincerity and the inspirational work ethic I've witnessed from him. I just have zero interest in his future plans and I never developed a powerful witness of his piercing the veil claims. I sincerely wish the best for him and I'm going to try to cease speaking on him. I don't want to mock his followers or mock him. It's not for me and I can move on with life and take my search for truth elsewhere.

[Silver Pie]

Hi Rob.

I was thinking that, too.

[Silver Pie]

To anyone thinking I was taking shots at Rob. I was not. I was stating my honest opinions and perceptions. I do believe it is still legal to do that. I don't like the idea of someone following a priestcrafter. I don't like the idea of someone sinking into priestcraft. I'm not going to pretend I was impressed by the man even before he decided God wanted him to ask people for donations.

[JenSerious]

Crucify him, crucify him! .... you ought to be ashamed! If you live a better life than him, then you can say something, if not, shut up! His life is nothing but exemplary! He points to Jesus. He teaches truth. Because of his teachings, I am a better person today and want to be more better.

I once thought "@#$#%@!" (about him) and immediately I heard a reprimand: "that's exactly what they said to and about Jesus in His time" and I was ashamed. I can not walk away from this thread and not stand up for him. He is a better person than me!

[Original_Intent]

That's how I feel. I was disinclined to become a "follower" of Denver Snuffer, even though I thought his book that I read was excellent and that he was saying correct things.

I'm disinclined in the same way to become a follow of Rob Smith.
But I see him actually doing the things I have been prompted to do that I haven't actually done.
I am becoming a better person by taking what he says and trying to apply it.
Rob has his faults, but he is pointing me to Christ.

[Wolfwoman]

Crucify him, crucify him! .... you ought to be ashamed! If you live a better life than him, then you can say something, if not, shut up! His life is nothing but exemplary! He points to Jesus. He teaches truth. Because of his teachings, I am a better person today and want to be more better.

I once thought "@#$#%@!" (about him) and immediately I heard a reprimand: "that's exactly what they said to and about Jesus in His time" and I was ashamed. I can not walk away from this thread and not stand up for him. He is a better person than me!

I’m glad for you.

And… nobody here said to crucify him.

[Jonesy]

His video showed up in my YouTube recommendations and I was surprised when I saw it. I also felt that I should make a donation. I give a listen to many people to hear what they have to say, and for the most part, Rob has delivered quite a bit and I often come back to see what he has to say. Like him or not, not many people are as passionate and completely dedicated to what they pursue in life. Don’t we believe that part of having faith is to to have an “actual knowledge that the course of life which he is pursuing, is according to his will”? I don’t know him personally, but I believe him when he is as much in line with his beliefs as he is with his actions. We need more people like that. My ears are open, but still cautious and discerning.

[Reluctant Watchman]

Priestcraft.

If he sets himself up as a light unto the people, yes. If he is simply requesting support, no. It's the combination of gain and praise, and doing it for selfish or egocentric reasons.

2 Nephi 26
“He commandeth that there shall be no priestcrafts; for, behold, priestcrafts are that men preach and set themselves up for a light unto the world, that they may get gain and praise of the world; but they seek not the welfare of Zion.”

I'm pretty sure he has been setting himself up as a light to the world. I'm not sure when it started - probably after I stopped reading his blog.

In my opinion, it starts small, then escalates and before the fish realize it, they have been caught in his net of deceit, lust for women, seeking after honor, and donating to the cause.

I think he is still in the beginning stages, and I hope and pray this thread wakes him up, and stops him in his tracks - and that he seeks a REAL personal visitation from Jesus.

I don't know Rob, other than I read his book about the setting for doctrine the commandments of men. It was a great book and I really appreciated it. He's just a man and I don't get the sense that he's setting himself above or apart from Christ. But then again, I don't agree at all with a few of the ideas he's blogged about (snippets posts here on the forum).

[John Tavner]

Crucify him, crucify him! .... you ought to be ashamed! If you live a better life than him, then you can say something, if not, shut up! His life is nothing but exemplary! He points to Jesus. He teaches truth. Because of his teachings, I am a better person today and want to be more better.

I once thought "@#$#%@!" (about him) and immediately I heard a reprimand: "that's exactly what they said to and about Jesus in His time" and I was ashamed. I can not walk away from this thread and not stand up for him. He is a better person than me!

Even though you may think he does better things than you- works won't save him, if real and from the heart, they are only a reflection of his salvation. I would encourage you to begin to believe more that you are righteous through Christ, and as you believe that you will begin to act accordingly. As Paul says in Romans 12:4-14 we are all the body of Christ and ought not to think of ourselves too highly- each has different talents. The hand can't say it is better than the arm just because it grabs things, when the arm is what helps it move- though hte hand gets the attention, the arm is still necessary. Though the feet hit the ground, the back is necessary for the leg to properly run. In short stop comparing yourself to him and to others and just live up to what Christ says you can be- because God is helping you and desires you to be there, it is why Jesus came down, to restore you into proper relationsip with the Father, removing our sin, was just part of that process. Now it is up to you to believe. Romans 12:3For I say, through the grace given unto me, to every man that is among you, not to think of himself more highly than he ought to think; but to think soberly, according as God hath dealt to every man the measure of faith. What does that mean? Ephesians 2:9 8For it is by grace you have been saved through faith, and this not from yourselves; it is the gift of God, 9not by works, so that no one can boast. 10For we are God’s workmanship, created in Christ Jesus to do good works, which God prepared in advance as our way of life. Your faith comes from God by yielding- it all comes from God- so our "measure" of faith doesn't make one person "better" than another at all.

[jack]

Look guys, I’m just as confused about this as any of you, but I am unwilling to take shots at a guy just because I happen to disagree with him. Especially someone who everyone seems to agree has given a LOT of his time and effort.

I’m inclined to give him the benefit of the doubt here.

Hi Rob.

lol, Rob uses his real name

[jack]

To anyone thinking I was taking shots at Rob. I was not. I was stating my honest opinions and perceptions. I do believe it is still legal to do that. I don't like the idea of someone following a priestcrafter. I don't like the idea of someone sinking into priestcraft. I'm not going to pretend I was impressed by the man even before he decided God wanted him to ask people for donations.

I don’t think you were taking shots at Rob.

I DO think Sean Henry was being disingenuous and intentionally trying to poison the well by trying to associate Rob with other’s unsavory behavior. That is wrong and unbecoming of one who claims greater light and knowledge as Sean Henry claims.

[jack]

I find it interesting how many here are pleading for me to give them the benefit of the doubt while simultaneously refusing to give Rob that same charity.

[Telavian]

Crucify him, crucify him! .... you ought to be ashamed! If you live a better life than him, then you can say something, if not, shut up! His life is nothing but exemplary! He points to Jesus. He teaches truth. Because of his teachings, I am a better person today and want to be more better.

I once thought "@#$#%@!" (about him) and immediately I heard a reprimand: "that's exactly what they said to and about Jesus in His time" and I was ashamed. I can not walk away from this thread and not stand up for him. He is a better person than me!

Not a single person is mocking him or criticizing him. We were focusing on the idea that he is going to create a website with badges, levels, special access, and start taking donations. If the LDS church did this then 99% of the people here would say the exact same things about it.

Please lighten up. I used to follow Rob very closely and thought of him as having a special connection to God. I however changed my opinion when I realized that he is actually wrong about many things and won't even consider it. It is always his way or the highway. Rob is very dedicated to what he thinks which is admirable. However that doesn't make it true, just because he really believes it to be so.

The more we want something to be true, the more we focus on it to the exclusion of everything else.

[marc]

I've extracted a lot of value - of light and truth - from Rob. Same with Denver Snuffer or Hugh Nibley or David Jeremiah. I expect to continue acquiring light wherever it is shed. I simply discard whatever has no value and continue seeking after and assimilating anything virtuous, of good report, etc. Doing this has served me well in my life.

[logonbump]

I'd support the the online missionary-like activities of a devoted teacher before I'd support a ward missionary with an empty head and no grasp of saving doctrine or scriptures.

[Mamabear]

Look guys, I’m just as confused about this as any of you, but I am unwilling to take shots at a guy just because I happen to disagree with him. Especially someone who everyone seems to agree has given a LOT of his time and effort.

I’m inclined to give him the benefit of the doubt here.

Hi Rob.

lol, Rob uses his real name

Jk… hehe

[Silver Pie]

Crucify him, crucify him! .... you ought to be ashamed! If you live a better life than him, then you can say something, if not, shut up! His life is nothing but exemplary! He points to Jesus. He teaches truth. Because of his teachings, I am a better person today and want to be more better.

I once thought "@#$#%@!" (about him) and immediately I heard a reprimand: "that's exactly what they said to and about Jesus in His time" and I was ashamed. I can not walk away from this thread and not stand up for him. He is a better person than me!

Exemplary?