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Original_Intent wrote: ↑October 24th, 2023, 4:08 pm Take it as you will. I am more inclined to believe it than I have for any other claimant previously. I have some soul searching to do.

Although I've said that it appears that he is forming a cult, I actually like this guy. His approach is somewhat different than mine, but the essence is very similar. He is very practical and direct with the "doing" that is necessary in this life and the "why" we do what we do. I'm listening to him now and find his words to be founded in good common sense rather than reaches of logic to prove a personal biased point which many do.

I've never heard him say the words which were quoted in this thread which painted a critical picture of him. I went off of those words to formulate my stated opinions of who/why he is. I had only listened to perhaps one hour of him prior. Now listening to him again, I have to say that he has a very broad and deep understanding of people and their motivations.

I would guess that very few would do as he is instructing and mostly listen to gain their dose of "truth" without working for it in order to understand it for themselves. It takes a very large amount of motivation to dedicate life to the discovery of Christ. Usually it's pain that does it. It's how this world works.

He certainly has a great deal in his head to be able to talk non-stop and do it with an even flow. I feel bad for him because he realizes that he needs to go to great length to couch things in many ways to minimize the offense that others will take. ...so...to get to a single point, he feels the need to soften the subject substantially in order to teach the average person. We live in a world filled with hypersensitive people. He has much more patience than I.

he does a good job of approaching mmp's . He takes the audience by the hand to slowly lead them into it and does a great job of providing background for this principle.

his last subject is TDS. the davidic servant. Good stuff.

thanks for posting the video originalintent

FrankOne wrote: ↑October 24th, 2023, 6:47 pm

Original_Intent wrote: ↑October 24th, 2023, 4:08 pm Take it as you will. I am more inclined to believe it than I have for any other claimant previously. I have some soul searching to do.

Although I've said that it appears that he is forming a cult, I actually like this guy. His approach is somewhat different than mine, but the essence is very similar. He is very practical and direct with the "doing" that is necessary in this life and the "why" we do what we do. I'm listening to him now and find his words to be founded in good common sense rather than reaches of logic to prove a personal biased point which many do.

I've never heard him say the words which were quoted in this thread which painted a critical picture of him. I went off of those words to formulate my stated opinions of who/why he is. I had only listened to perhaps one hour of him prior. Now listening to him again, I have to say that he has a very broad and deep understanding of people and their motivations.

I would guess that very few would do as he is instructing and mostly listen to gain their dose of "truth" without working for it in order to understand it for themselves. It takes a very large amount of motivation to dedicate life to the discovery of Christ. Usually it's pain that does it. It's how this world works.

He certainly has a great deal in his head to be able to talk non-stop and do it with an even flow. I feel bad for him because he realizes that he needs to go to great length to couch things in many ways to minimize the offense that others will take. ...so...to get to a single point, he feels the need to soften the subject substantially in order to teach the average person. We live in a world filled with hypersensitive people. He has much more patience than I.

he does a good job of approaching mmp's . He takes the audience by the hand to slowly lead them into it and does a great job of providing background for this principle.

his last subject is TDS. the davidic servant. Good stuff.

thanks for posting the video originalintent

I was someone who really liked Denver Snuffer without going all in. I liked his Second Comforter book and I agreed with a lot that he had to say about the LDS church. But when it was clear that a splinter group was forming it just did not feel right to me.

Rob gives me some discomfort, but it is kind of being a little afraid that he is 100% legit. As I watched the video today and he talked about "if you aren't applying what you have, why would the Lord give you any more?" And I feel VERY called out by that. I have studied and meditated and prayed but I see that it was because of wanting to figure everything out - being "in the know" if you will. And the Lord has indulged me and given me things based simply on the amount of effort I have put into understanding and basically not letting go unless I was TOLD to stop asking about something. But most of the time, I am taught. But I do feel like I may actually be in trouble for knowing more and doing less. Don't get me wrong, I have had some very good moments in my lifetime that I have at least approached my potential. But I haven't stayed the course and I am bottom line LAZY, I procrastinate as badly as anyone I know.

So I am doing some soul searching about what matters to me, trying to commit more fully and seriously to the Lord. NOT becoming a follower of Rob other than I see him, you, and several others as someone that I can learn from. I mean I sincerely believe that every person has something I could learn from, but there are those few that feel like they are kinda sorta on the same path. So more helpful.

Original_Intent wrote: ↑October 24th, 2023, 4:08 pm Take it as you will. I am more inclined to believe it than I have for any other claimant previously. I have some soul searching to do.

I thought it was interesting. I watched this one because you linked it here, but I didn’t realize at first that there is a part I, so I’ll have to watch that one too.

It seems that he’s saying that he is the davidic servant or one mighty and strong, or he will be if he accomplishes what needs to be done.

The part about naming your kid Jesus was kind of weird. (Did he name one of his kids Jesus?) Seems that it was sort of symbolic, but then he also seemed literal about it at times.

Silver Pie wrote: ↑October 18th, 2023, 1:10 pm My experience is that we get furious if we feel we are on shaky ground.

The more emotional a person becomes about what he is saying indicates that the person is more worried that he is not able to convincingly defend his position.

Cool heads seem to be supported better with the truth.

People who get argumentative, angry and call names don't seem to have much truth to defend their position. These people are defending feelings and positions rather than the truth.

Just an observation.

Wolfwoman wrote: ↑October 24th, 2023, 8:40 pm I thought it was interesting. I watched this one because you linked it here, but I didn’t realize at first that there is a part I, so I’ll have to watch that one too.

It seems that he’s saying that he is the davidic servant or one mighty and strong, or he will be if he accomplishes what needs to be done.

The part about naming your kid Jesus was kind of weird. (Did he name one of his kids Jesus?) Seems that it was sort of symbolic, but then he also seemed literal about it at times.

The Davidic servant will bring forth new scriptures and will be pretty obvious to those that are watching. If Rob is it then I don't think we need to only rely on cryptic references in videos.

I am brand new here and come from a perspective of someone who has read and listened to almost everything Rob Smith has made public (and also Denver Snuffer BTW). There is no person I know of upon this earth that has sacrificed more of their time and efforts for the cause of Christ . . . period. There is nobody I know of that has made available at such a cheap price that which is so valuable.

Say what you want about Rob, but if you can’t see or won’t see the value in what he has freely given then that’s your prerogative but please don’t malign him simply because what he is doing and has done does not conform to your level of understanding.

If you were alive to witness Christ calling the Pharisees the most insulting thing imaginable or to see Him chase the money changers out of the temple you might have a negative opinion of such an apparently prickly and odd fellow.

Telavian wrote: ↑October 24th, 2023, 9:51 pm

Wolfwoman wrote: ↑October 24th, 2023, 8:40 pm I thought it was interesting. I watched this one because you linked it here, but I didn’t realize at first that there is a part I, so I’ll have to watch that one too.

It seems that he’s saying that he is the davidic servant or one mighty and strong, or he will be if he accomplishes what needs to be done.

The part about naming your kid Jesus was kind of weird. (Did he name one of his kids Jesus?) Seems that it was sort of symbolic, but then he also seemed literal about it at times.

The Davidic servant will bring forth new scriptures and will be pretty obvious to those that are watching. If Rob is it then I don't think we need to only rely on cryptic references in videos.

Yeah, he said there will be no doubt as to who it is once the work has been accomplished, for those that survive to that point.

RoverMac wrote: ↑October 24th, 2023, 11:05 pm I am brand new here and come from a perspective of someone who has read and listened to almost everything Rob Smith has made public (and also Denver Snuffer BTW). There is no person I know of upon this earth that has sacrificed more of their time and efforts for the cause of Christ . . . period. There is nobody I know of that has made available at such a cheap price that which is so valuable.

Say what you want about Rob, but if you can’t see or won’t see the value in what he has freely given then that’s your prerogative but please don’t malign him simply because what he is doing and has done does not conform to your level of understanding.

If you were alive to witness Christ calling the Pharisees the most insulting thing imaginable or to see Him chase the money changers out of the temple you might have a negative opinion of such an apparently prickly and odd fellow.

No one is attacking Rob. I am also not sure why people are creating accounts just to defend someone who isn't being attacked.
Many have sacrificed a lot. This includes Rob. However, it includes a lot more people. Rob is just very public about his sacrifices, while the average person is not.

I have yet to come across anything that Rob teaches that is unique. For instance, his Through Faith book is simply a repackaging of the Lectures on Faith. This of course doesn't make it bad, however it certainly makes it redundant. I love his book Teaching for Doctrines the Commandments of Men, however this book is also nothing special. It is a repackaging of what was out there already. Many have spoken or written about these things for a very long time.

I think Rob has a lot to offer and I am thankful for his efforts. However, we never should place him on a pedestal or ascribe divine status to his works.

Wolfwoman wrote: ↑October 24th, 2023, 11:05 pm Yeah, he said there will be no doubt as to who it is once the work has been accomplished, for those that survive to that point.

I don't think the servant will be operating in a vacuum and we will only know when he is finished. The servant will issue a global call to repentance before Kings and rulers. He will be teaching things that were hidden from the foundation of the Earth. This will be basic obvious truth. He will be translating additional scriptures. He will be ushering in a new temporal age for God's people.

He will be hidden from the world because most people are not waiting and watching. I don't think he is hidden because God doesn't want anyone to know about him.

Telavian wrote: ↑October 25th, 2023, 7:05 am
I have yet to come across anything that Rob teaches that is unique.

Definitely have to agree here. Someone in this thread said that recently it feels like his teachings are starting to converge with things Denver has been saying for 10-15 years--I agree and disagree on that, right or wrong, encounters with angels or not, I don't think anyone in Mormonism has delved into the mysteries of eternal progression as honestly and as clearly as Denver's teachings have, eternal progression is about eternal polygamy and having kingdoms because of Christ’s suffering bought or earned us kingdoms in Brigham's Mormonism, progress and more than one life and ascension is heavily hinted at and suggested but kept vague in Joseph's teachings, it's bold and re-shapes how you view the eternities and your current life and the concept of marriage and the nature of God (God is Heavenly Father and Heavenly Mother, the image of God is a saved man and a saved woman, they have attained to the resurrection of the dead, Heavenly Father and Heavenly Mother united and sealed to one another) in Denver's Mormonism--which highlights more that Rob to this point has never taught a truly unique thing.

FrankOne wrote: ↑October 24th, 2023, 6:47 pm Although I've said that it appears that he is forming a cult, I actually like this guy. His approach is somewhat different than mine, but the essence is very similar. He is very practical and direct with the "doing" that is necessary in this life and the "why" we do what we do. I'm listening to him now and find his words to be founded in good common sense rather than reaches of logic to prove a personal biased point which many do.

I just listened to the first half of the video and these are my observations

1. He used almost no scriptures. Maybe none at all actually.
2. Certainly his view on gathering makes sense. We romanticize this to a degree however presently most do nothing at all. Service is the key to unlock God's blessings. Gathering will be a time of excitement and struggle. A time of sacrifice and miracles.
3. MMP is wrong because .... A lot of handwaving to explain this and no scriptures at all. MMP may be wrong however we are all eternal beings on an eternal journey so I may not live on Earth again, but I will live again somewhere and am always going through a decision phase of progression or regression. I see this as a semantic difference only. I have an incredibly hard time believing that this is the only life and will impact us for all eternity. The eight-year-old who died the moment after they became accountable is lost forever? I think not. An infant that dies is forever with God, yet I who struggle through 100 years of life am cursed forever as a result?

I don't dislike Rob's teachings as much as I used to, however I still think there is a ton of assumptions with almost no scriptural basis for them. "Tutored by God" means what? It means you can say things that have no scriptural foundation?

Telavian wrote: ↑October 25th, 2023, 9:28 am

FrankOne wrote: ↑October 24th, 2023, 6:47 pm Although I've said that it appears that he is forming a cult, I actually like this guy. His approach is somewhat different than mine, but the essence is very similar. He is very practical and direct with the "doing" that is necessary in this life and the "why" we do what we do. I'm listening to him now and find his words to be founded in good common sense rather than reaches of logic to prove a personal biased point which many do.

I just listened to the first half of the video and these are my observations

1. He used almost no scriptures. Maybe none at all actually.
2. Certainly his view on gathering makes sense. We romanticize this to a degree however presently most do nothing at all. Service is the key to unlock God's blessings. Gathering will be a time of excitement and struggle. A time of sacrifice and miracles.
3. MMP is wrong because .... A lot of handwaving to explain this and no scriptures at all. MMP may be wrong however we are all eternal beings on an eternal journey so I may not live on Earth again, but I will live again somewhere and am always going through a decision phase of progression or regression. I see this as a semantic difference only. I have an incredibly hard time believing that this is the only life and will impact us for all eternity. The eight-year-old who died the moment after they became accountable is lost forever? I think not. An infant that dies is forever with God, yet I who struggle through 100 years of life am cursed forever as a result?

I don't dislike Rob's teachings as much as I used to, however I still think there is a ton of assumptions with almost no scriptural basis for them. "Tutored by God" means what? It means you can say things that have no scriptural foundation?

I understand your points but I have found , especially in this day and age, when scriptures are often quoted, then another chimes in and says "that's not what it means!" and then proceeds to use 'their' choice scriptures to prove the other wrong.

I prefer his approach because he relies on strong reasoning and not dogma as men have interpreted scripture to be.

I realize that it's just my preference and that others use scripture often and with much benefit. I got into reading anything and everything ancient and the result was that I found reams of information which explained "accepted scripture" in many different ways. Those 'different ways' opened my mind to reasoning things out rather than accept how men have translated the words. One simple example is that in the GK to English translation of the cannon , much is lost just in the translation! Not to mention that the GK was originally in Aramaic!

Another example is that the The OT was passed on orally for at least a 1000 yrs before being committed to paper! How much absolute 'truth' is in the words? We do not know.

My experience is that the truth is found as it 'occurs' within me. Only the spirit can guide us through understanding the written word. Men arguing it does absolutely nothing.

Quote of the day, from Walter Bosley's live YT:

"If you're a of particular brand of religious.., misogynistic, religious fanatic, you can move to northwest Montana.., Hey! If that's what you're lookin' for, check it out, you'd love it there! Parts of Utah are the same way..,"


Quote embedded below or starts at 49:46
[Walter Bosley promoting a book on the military industrial complex's 1800 Prussian roots called NYMZA: How America Sold It's Soul. (Amazing connections to Sonora and possibly Cañada Flintridge, California, btw,)
In today's live, writer, researcher, former FBI and OSI officer, and host at the 2015 Secret Space Program¹ conference the culmination of his research into the airship mysteries of the late eighteen hundreds in a theory on the new speaker of the house and the Paperclip infiltration into the military industrial complex with Mike Johnson:]
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FrankOne wrote: ↑October 25th, 2023, 5:01 pm

Telavian wrote: ↑October 25th, 2023, 9:28 am

FrankOne wrote: ↑October 24th, 2023, 6:47 pm Although I've said that it appears that he is forming a cult, I actually like this guy. His approach is somewhat different than mine, but the essence is very similar. He is very practical and direct with the "doing" that is necessary in this life and the "why" we do what we do. I'm listening to him now and find his words to be founded in good common sense rather than reaches of logic to prove a personal biased point which many do.

I just listened to the first half of the video and these are my observations

1. He used almost no scriptures. Maybe none at all actually.
2. Certainly his view on gathering makes sense. We romanticize this to a degree however presently most do nothing at all. Service is the key to unlock God's blessings. Gathering will be a time of excitement and struggle. A time of sacrifice and miracles.
3. MMP is wrong because .... A lot of handwaving to explain this and no scriptures at all. MMP may be wrong however we are all eternal beings on an eternal journey so I may not live on Earth again, but I will live again somewhere and am always going through a decision phase of progression or regression. I see this as a semantic difference only. I have an incredibly hard time believing that this is the only life and will impact us for all eternity. The eight-year-old who died the moment after they became accountable is lost forever? I think not. An infant that dies is forever with God, yet I who struggle through 100 years of life am cursed forever as a result?

I don't dislike Rob's teachings as much as I used to, however I still think there is a ton of assumptions with almost no scriptural basis for them. "Tutored by God" means what? It means you can say things that have no scriptural foundation?

I understand your points but I have found , especially in this day and age, when scriptures are often quoted, then another chimes in and says "that's not what it means!" and then proceeds to use 'their' choice scriptures to prove the other wrong.

I prefer his approach because he relies on strong reasoning and not dogma as men have interpreted scripture to be.

I realize that it's just my preference and that others use scripture often and with much benefit. I got into reading anything and everything ancient and the result was that I found reams of information which explained "accepted scripture" in many different ways. Those 'different ways' opened my mind to reasoning things out rather than accept how men have translated the words. One simple example is that in the GK to English translation of the cannon , much is lost just in the translation! Not to mention that the GK was originally in Aramaic!

Another example is that the The OT was passed on orally for at least a 1000 yrs before being committed to paper! How much absolute 'truth' is in the words? We do not know.

My experience is that the truth is found as it 'occurs' within me. Only the spirit can guide us through understanding the written word. Men arguing it does absolutely nothing.

This is so me.
The scripture is the Word of God, but what it means can only be confirmed by the Spirit.
The words of the prophet are the words of God, but only when he is speaking as such. And saying some special words such as "Thus saith the Lord..." does not cut it. The Spirit must not only confirm the words, but convey the intention behind the words.
As much as many TBM would like it to be otherwise, there is no acceptable "easy mode" where we simply hear and obey. What kind of celestial being would that even create?

FrankOne wrote: ↑October 25th, 2023, 5:01 pm I understand your points but I have found , especially in this day and age, when scriptures are often quoted, then another chimes in and says "that's not what it means!" and then proceeds to use 'their' choice scriptures to prove the other wrong.

Certainly people can wrest the scriptures to mean almost anything they want. I am not sure though where the line is between reasoning and the word of God.
The iron rod is the word of God not the reasoning of men.

Telavian wrote: ↑October 25th, 2023, 6:24 pm

FrankOne wrote: ↑October 25th, 2023, 5:01 pm I understand your points but I have found , especially in this day and age, when scriptures are often quoted, then another chimes in and says "that's not what it means!" and then proceeds to use 'their' choice scriptures to prove the other wrong.

Certainly people can wrest the scriptures to mean almost anything they want. I am not sure though where the line is between reasoning and the word of God.
The iron rod is the word of God not the reasoning of men.

Thus saith the Lord:

“Come now, and let us reason together,” Says the LORD, “Though your sins are like scarlet, They shall be as white as snow; Though they are red like crimson, They shall be as wool. - Isaiah 1:18

I don't mean this as a "gotcha", just that God talks to us thru reason, as long as we don't fall into the error of thinking we already know.

Telavian wrote: ↑October 25th, 2023, 6:24 pm

FrankOne wrote: ↑October 25th, 2023, 5:01 pm I understand your points but I have found , especially in this day and age, when scriptures are often quoted, then another chimes in and says "that's not what it means!" and then proceeds to use 'their' choice scriptures to prove the other wrong.

Certainly people can wrest the scriptures to mean almost anything they want. I am not sure though where the line is between reasoning and the word of God.
The iron rod is the word of God not the reasoning of men.

yes. I see that as well.

I guess when I say "reasoning" I apply it to myself by trying to access all the files in my head that pertain to the certain subject. Then I reason it out and then make the attempt to be sensitive to the spirit on it. It is my personal position that the canon isn't much different than the non-cannon scriptures. By the time that the cannon that we have today was created, (some 300 yrs after Christ), Through various agreements and politics, the canon was formalized some 300 yrs after Christ by men that were certainly not "authorized" by God. No prophets existed, just men with preferences of what was true and what was not. Mix into that the emperor, Constantine and the creation of the Catholic church and you discover a medley of mixed motivations. There were at least 1000 scrolls that could have been chosen during that time, and 66 were eventually chosen. Books of Gnostic or Essene origin and many others were immediately dismissed as heretical.

Christ had no influence on which books were chosen.

Imagine if men got together today and tried to "re-create" the LDS church from historical documents. Imagine the melee! Imagine the disagreements! What is the truth? Thousands of people are on the internet today digging up historical information on the church and all of them arguing about the original teachings. We observe the debates right here on this forum.

Now consider if the Governor of Utah called a meeting of scholars to decide what the LDS church doctrine is... and said, "when we are all in one accord, the church shall be built up by the State of Utah!"

well, that is what happened with scripture and the catholic church. The Emperor funded the building of churches and was the instrument in organizing Christianity in general.

As time proceeded, the books we now have was first published as the Latin Vulgate , in about 400AD which also included other books which are not in our 66 book canon.

what to trust?

that answer goes without saying.

I'm sure that there are a few here that know this history much better than I do and could chime in.

jack wrote: ↑October 24th, 2023, 4:53 am Minerals in the ground have no value.

Just because the minerals have no current value doesn’t mean they don’t have potential.

It is only after they are dug up and refined that they becomes useful or in other words valuable.

Thus it is with mankind. Until we are refined we are less than the dust. God can see our potential however and because He loves us it becomes his work to begin the refining process in our lives — to make us valuable.

Being a geologist, how could I not like this, despite the rarefied type of thinking exemplified by: The Law of One, which I just looked up and found quite intriguing ( Some fundamental ideas from the Law of One Material by Tobey Wheelock: https://www.lawofone.info/synopsis-prev.php )? But referirng to this particular rendition of The Law of One, who the heck is Ra? . . . . aside from being the Egyptian Sun God??

larsenb wrote: ↑October 25th, 2023, 8:00 pm

jack wrote: ↑October 24th, 2023, 4:53 am Minerals in the ground have no value.

Just because the minerals have no current value doesn’t mean they don’t have potential.

It is only after they are dug up and refined that they becomes useful or in other words valuable.

Thus it is with mankind. Until we are refined we are less than the dust. God can see our potential however and because He loves us it becomes his work to begin the refining process in our lives — to make us valuable.

Being a geologist, how could I not like this, despite the rarefied type of thinking exemplified by: The Law of One, which I just looked up and found quite intriguing ( Some fundamental ideas from the Law of One Material by Tobey Wheelock: https://www.lawofone.info/synopsis-prev.php )? But referirng to this particular rendition of The Law of One, who the heck is Ra? . . . . aside from being the Egyptian Sun God??

Ra is the planetary entity of Venus(?) Same Ra as from Ancient Egypt. Claims they gave truths to the ancient Egyptians and they corrupted the teachings and created a priesthood and mankind was deemed not ready for the teachings.

Aaron Abke has a ton of very well done videos on YouTube about Law of One stuff. Here is the first in the series.

Original_Intent wrote: ↑October 25th, 2023, 7:12 pm I don't mean this as a "gotcha", just that God talks to us thru reason, as long as we don't fall into the error of thinking we already know.

I understand what you mean however it was the reasoning of the Pharisees that caused them to miss Christ.
It was the knowledge of the scriptures which caused the Bereans to recognize Christ.

The word of God is eternally true. There is no thought that you or I have ever had that matches that level. We are to use reason, however we are not to think it holds a candle next to God's word.

Note, I disagree strongly with Aaron's interpretation of Rainbow flag, BLM, and climate change as "advancement" into 4th density consciousness.

Telavian wrote: ↑October 25th, 2023, 8:37 pm

Original_Intent wrote: ↑October 25th, 2023, 7:12 pm I don't mean this as a "gotcha", just that God talks to us thru reason, as long as we don't fall into the error of thinking we already know.

I understand what you mean however it was the reasoning of the Pharisees that caused them to miss Christ.
It was the knowledge of the scriptures which caused the Bereans to recognize Christ.

The word of God is eternally true. There is no thought that you or I have ever had that matches that level. We are to use reason, however we are not to think it holds a candle next to God's word.

Thanks for that, obviously true. Identify for me which words of sola scriptora are God's what are mistranslations of other changes, what got left out, and so forth. Thanks in advance.

Original_Intent wrote: ↑October 25th, 2023, 9:05 pm Thanks for that, obviously true. Identify for me which words of sola scriptora are God's what are mistranslations of other changes, what got left out, and so forth. Thanks in advance.

What an incredibly condescending response. Men can reason anything away or into being.

Telavian wrote: ↑October 25th, 2023, 9:19 pm

Original_Intent wrote: ↑October 25th, 2023, 9:05 pm Thanks for that, obviously true. Identify for me which words of sola scriptora are God's what are mistranslations of other changes, what got left out, and so forth. Thanks in advance.

What an incredibly condescending response. Men can reason anything away or into being.

I'd say it was more of a challenge to your statement rather than condescending. I mean, of course you can't do it, and neither can I - that was the point. If you want condescending, re-read your own post that I was responding to.

Wow, God's word is eternal and better than anything we can think! Thanks Captain Obvious!

Original_Intent wrote: ↑October 25th, 2023, 9:22 pm I'd say it was more of a challenge to your statement rather than condescending. I mean, of course you can't do it, and neither can I - that was the point. If you want condescending, re-read your own post that I was responding to.

Wow, God's word is eternal and better than anything we can think! Thanks Captain Obvious!

Again, another attack for no reason. You mentioned that your reasoning or Rob's reasoning is superior to the scriptures and I just mentioned that you might want to rethink that.
You took that as an attack for some reason.