Bombshell Study Finds 74% of COVID Vaccine Autopsy Deaths Caused by Vaccine, Censored by Lancet

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A study published in The Lancet, based on 325 autopsies after COVID vaccination, found that 74% of deaths were caused by the vaccine. However, it was removed from the site within 24 hours.
Authored by leading experts like cardiologist Dr. Peter McCullough and Yale epidemiologist Dr. Harvey Risch, the paper awaited peer review. Despite the study's thorough methodology, a note on The Lancet stated that its conclusions were "not supported by the methodology."

"From the preprints with the Lancet staff who removed the paper, it is hard to know what substance the claim that the conclusions are not supported by the method. So again, they're not telling you why they took it down," wrote The Daily Sceptic.

"Keep in mind that the CDC has not yet acknowledged a single death being caused by COVID mRNA vaccines. Autopsy evidence demonstrating otherwise is clearly not what the United States public health establishment wants to hear."

Here's the short video covering the censorship:

https://rumble.com/v3oxit7-bombshell-st ... cine-.html

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We are long past the time when people really cared about the truth. Finding out the real truth about many things would be so painful that it just is not realistic anymore. Therefore, we can file this away with many things that will never see the light of day.

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Telavian wrote: October 13th, 2023, 4:48 pm We are long past the time when people really cared about the truth. Finding out the real truth about many things would be so painful that it just is not realistic anymore. Therefore, we can file this away with many things that will never see the light of day.
Are you Mulder from the x-files?? :lol:

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Arm Chair Quarterback wrote: October 13th, 2023, 3:27 pm A study published in The Lancet, based on 325 autopsies after COVID vaccination, found that 74% of deaths were caused by the vaccine.

"Keep in mind that the CDC has not yet acknowledged a single death being caused by COVID mRNA vaccines. Autopsy evidence demonstrating otherwise is clearly not what the United States public health establishment wants to hear."

NEVER FORGET!!

Here's the short video covering the censorship:

https://rumble.com/v3oxit7-bombshell-st ... cine-.html
Q15 has also gone out of their way NOT to talk about the uninspired "urging" of the deadly-jab...and it's obvious they want TBM'S the world over to consider it a closed topic. Otherwise their "see around corners" and "cannot lead you astray" image would crumble to dust.

NEVER FORGET!!!

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The Red Pill wrote: October 13th, 2023, 4:57 pm
Arm Chair Quarterback wrote: October 13th, 2023, 3:27 pm A study published in The Lancet, based on 325 autopsies after COVID vaccination, found that 74% of deaths were caused by the vaccine.

"Keep in mind that the CDC has not yet acknowledged a single death being caused by COVID mRNA vaccines. Autopsy evidence demonstrating otherwise is clearly not what the United States public health establishment wants to hear."

NEVER FORGET!!

Here's the short video covering the censorship:

https://rumble.com/v3oxit7-bombshell-st ... cine-.html
Q15 has also gone out of their way NOT to talk about the uninspired "urging" of the deadly-jab...and it's obvious they want TBM'S the world over to consider it a closed topic. Otherwise their "see around corners" and "cannot lead you astray" image would crumble to dust.

NEVER FORGET!!!
Are you Neo from the Matrix??!! :lol: jk

I do agree with you. It wasn’t very inspired what they did.

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fractal_light_harvest wrote: October 13th, 2023, 5:02 pm
The Red Pill wrote: October 13th, 2023, 4:57 pm
Arm Chair Quarterback wrote: October 13th, 2023, 3:27 pm A study published in The Lancet, based on 325 autopsies after COVID vaccination, found that 74% of deaths were caused by the vaccine.

"Keep in mind that the CDC has not yet acknowledged a single death being caused by COVID mRNA vaccines. Autopsy evidence demonstrating otherwise is clearly not what the United States public health establishment wants to hear."

NEVER FORGET!!

Here's the short video covering the censorship:

https://rumble.com/v3oxit7-bombshell-st ... cine-.html
Q15 has also gone out of their way NOT to talk about the uninspired "urging" of the deadly-jab...and it's obvious they want TBM'S the world over to consider it a closed topic. Otherwise their "see around corners" and "cannot lead you astray" image would crumble to dust.

NEVER FORGET!!!
Are you Neo from the Matrix??!! :lol: jk

I do agree with you. It wasn’t very inspired what they did.
Of course not...just following the dictates of their respective government...which is covered by inspiration...
Wherefore, be subject to the powers that be, until he reigns whose right it is to reign, and subdues all enemies under his feet.
https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/stu ... ng=eng#p22

...not to mention 12th Article of Faith...
We believe in being subject to kings, presidents, rulers, and magistrates, in obeying, honoring, and sustaining the law.
https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/stu ... 1?lang=eng

Who are the powers that be??? What does it mean to be subject?

Was not Covid-19 otherwise known as Operation Warp Speed a government operation? Did not the US Government (and it's subject entities) pay for the research? Are not the patents owned by the US Government (NIAID)? Did not the US Government starting under Trump and completing under Biden...pay for the marketing, the mRNA (DNA) delivery systems, and use all of it's power and influence to get the product to market and subsequently in the body of it's citizens?

Did not the Rockefeller Foundation recommend in May of 2020 in conjunction with John Hopkins Institute (operating under government grants) that in order to overcome vaccine hesitancy in the general population they needed to target trusted community leaders for their marketing...specifically faith based leaders? Did not the government use all of it's influence to carry out that strategic objective?

Rather than focus on symptoms...isn't it best to get to the root cause of the problem?

15's fault for abiding by divine directives? Being obedient to government directives?

Perhaps you expected them to toss all that out and openly rebel against the government with all the repercussions that entails? If so...do you live by your own expectations?

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Jason wrote: October 13th, 2023, 5:35 pm Perhaps you expected them to toss all that out and openly rebel against the government with all the repercussions that entails? If so...do you live by your own expectations?
Certainly you are right. If people expect the church to be bold against evil then they should also do so in their lives.
However, there is a marked difference between agreeing with and advocating for vs remaining silent.

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The Red Pill wrote: October 13th, 2023, 4:57 pm
Arm Chair Quarterback wrote: October 13th, 2023, 3:27 pm A study published in The Lancet, based on 325 autopsies after COVID vaccination, found that 74% of deaths were caused by the vaccine.

"Keep in mind that the CDC has not yet acknowledged a single death being caused by COVID mRNA vaccines. Autopsy evidence demonstrating otherwise is clearly not what the United States public health establishment wants to hear."

NEVER FORGET!!

Here's the short video covering the censorship:

https://rumble.com/v3oxit7-bombshell-st ... cine-.html
Q15 has also gone out of their way NOT to talk about the uninspired "urging" of the deadly-jab...and it's obvious they want TBM'S the world over to consider it a closed topic. Otherwise their "see around corners" and "cannot lead you astray" image would crumble to dust.

NEVER FORGET!!!

And remember that whatever THEY say is way more important than Ezra Taft Benson's warnings about NOT going along with the global communist conspiracy, which THEY have done.

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Telavian wrote: October 13th, 2023, 5:37 pm
Jason wrote: October 13th, 2023, 5:35 pm Perhaps you expected them to toss all that out and openly rebel against the government with all the repercussions that entails? If so...do you live by your own expectations?
Certainly you are right. If people expect the church to be bold against evil then they should also do so in their lives.
However, there is a marked difference between agreeing with and advocating for vs remaining silent.
The church has been bold against evil...but it also has to survive until the Master arrives...and He openly directed that they be subject to the powers that be until He does arrive. Who are the powers that be in the meantime?

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Jason wrote: October 13th, 2023, 5:41 pm The church has been bold against evil...but it also has to survive until the Master arrives...and He openly directed that they be subject to the powers that be until He does arrive. Who are the powers that be in the meantime?
Has to survive? If the church needs to survive, God will protect it. And if it doesn't, then what? It looks a lot more like you personally need the church to survive in order not to experience a faith crisis. To that end, you should root to ensure that the church is as milquetoast as possible on every issue.

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Jason wrote: October 13th, 2023, 5:41 pm The church has been bold against evil...but it also has to survive until the Master arrives...and He openly directed that they be subject to the powers that be until He does arrive. Who are the powers that be in the meantime?
I can't agree with either of your points.

1. How has the church been bold against evil?
2. Where was the church directed to be subject to the laws of man?

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Jason wrote: October 13th, 2023, 5:41 pm
Telavian wrote: October 13th, 2023, 5:37 pm
Jason wrote: October 13th, 2023, 5:35 pm Perhaps you expected them to toss all that out and openly rebel against the government with all the repercussions that entails? If so...do you live by your own expectations?
Certainly you are right. If people expect the church to be bold against evil then they should also do so in their lives.
However, there is a marked difference between agreeing with and advocating for vs remaining silent.
The church has been bold against evil...but it also has to survive until the Master arrives...and He openly directed that they be subject to the powers that be until He does arrive. Who are the powers that be in the meantime?
Red Sea parting anyone?

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Jason wrote: October 13th, 2023, 5:35 pm
fractal_light_harvest wrote: October 13th, 2023, 5:02 pm
The Red Pill wrote: October 13th, 2023, 4:57 pm

Q15 has also gone out of their way NOT to talk about the uninspired "urging" of the deadly-jab...and it's obvious they want TBM'S the world over to consider it a closed topic. Otherwise their "see around corners" and "cannot lead you astray" image would crumble to dust.

NEVER FORGET!!!
Are you Neo from the Matrix??!! :lol: jk

I do agree with you. It wasn’t very inspired what they did.
Of course not...just following the dictates of their respective government...which is covered by inspiration...
Wherefore, be subject to the powers that be, until he reigns whose right it is to reign, and subdues all enemies under his feet.
https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/stu ... ng=eng#p22

...not to mention 12th Article of Faith...
We believe in being subject to kings, presidents, rulers, and magistrates, in obeying, honoring, and sustaining the law.
https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/stu ... 1?lang=eng

Who are the powers that be??? What does it mean to be subject?

Was not Covid-19 otherwise known as Operation Warp Speed a government operation? Did not the US Government (and it's subject entities) pay for the research? Are not the patents owned by the US Government (NIAID)? Did not the US Government starting under Trump and completing under Biden...pay for the marketing, the mRNA (DNA) delivery systems, and use all of it's power and influence to get the product to market and subsequently in the body of it's citizens?

Did not the Rockefeller Foundation recommend in May of 2020 in conjunction with John Hopkins Institute (operating under government grants) that in order to overcome vaccine hesitancy in the general population they needed to target trusted community leaders for their marketing...specifically faith based leaders? Did not the government use all of it's influence to carry out that strategic objective?

Rather than focus on symptoms...isn't it best to get to the root cause of the problem?

15's fault for abiding by divine directives? Being obedient to government directives?

Perhaps you expected them to toss all that out and openly rebel against the government with all the repercussions that entails? If so...do you live by your own expectations?
They could have not said anything. Or told their members to carefully study the issue and then decide for themselves. Some churches openly advised against the shot and they seem to be doing ok more or less.

But if the powers that be tell a church to lie, then should it lie?What if they tell them to cheat and steal, then is it right for them to cheat and steal?

Where does God’s spirit draw the line? At telling kids to take an experimental injection? Is being subject to kings and magistrates
more important than honesty or life itself? was the sabbath made for man or man for the sabbath?

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Jason wrote: October 13th, 2023, 5:35 pm
fractal_light_harvest wrote: October 13th, 2023, 5:02 pm
The Red Pill wrote: October 13th, 2023, 4:57 pm

Q15 has also gone out of their way NOT to talk about the uninspired "urging" of the deadly-jab...and it's obvious they want TBM'S the world over to consider it a closed topic. Otherwise their "see around corners" and "cannot lead you astray" image would crumble to dust.

NEVER FORGET!!!
Are you Neo from the Matrix??!! :lol: jk

I do agree with you. It wasn’t very inspired what they did.
Of course not...just following the dictates of their respective government...which is covered by inspiration...
Wherefore, be subject to the powers that be, until he reigns whose right it is to reign, and subdues all enemies under his feet.
https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/stu ... ng=eng#p22

...not to mention 12th Article of Faith...
We believe in being subject to kings, presidents, rulers, and magistrates, in obeying, honoring, and sustaining the law.
https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/stu ... 1?lang=eng

Who are the powers that be??? What does it mean to be subject?

Was not Covid-19 otherwise known as Operation Warp Speed a government operation? Did not the US Government (and it's subject entities) pay for the research? Are not the patents owned by the US Government (NIAID)? Did not the US Government starting under Trump and completing under Biden...pay for the marketing, the mRNA (DNA) delivery systems, and use all of it's power and influence to get the product to market and subsequently in the body of it's citizens?

Did not the Rockefeller Foundation recommend in May of 2020 in conjunction with John Hopkins Institute (operating under government grants) that in order to overcome vaccine hesitancy in the general population they needed to target trusted community leaders for their marketing...specifically faith based leaders? Did not the government use all of it's influence to carry out that strategic objective?

Rather than focus on symptoms...isn't it best to get to the root cause of the problem?

15's fault for abiding by divine directives? Being obedient to government directives?

Perhaps you expected them to toss all that out and openly rebel against the government with all the repercussions that entails? If so...do you live by your own expectations?
Jason, you bring up valid and difficult points... I think the Savior showed us the way; he followed the law of the land, but at the same time, stood up to and spoke against the powers that be. He called them out for their hypocrisy, and pointed out where they didn't adhere to their own preaching's, but although he never broke the law, he did and said the right thing knowing they would kill him for it - in other words, he "let the consequence follow". "Do what is RIGHT, let the consequence follow, BATTLE [legally, spiritually, honestly] for freedom in spirit and might"

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Jason wrote: October 13th, 2023, 5:41 pm
Telavian wrote: October 13th, 2023, 5:37 pm
Jason wrote: October 13th, 2023, 5:35 pm Perhaps you expected them to toss all that out and openly rebel against the government with all the repercussions that entails? If so...do you live by your own expectations?
Certainly you are right. If people expect the church to be bold against evil then they should also do so in their lives.
However, there is a marked difference between agreeing with and advocating for vs remaining silent.
The church has been bold against evil...but it also has to survive until the Master arrives...and He openly directed that they be subject to the powers that be until He does arrive. Who are the powers that be in the meantime?
We are commanded to only follow the laws of men that are in harmony with the laws of God. If the church does not survive, it will be because the leaders failed to keep the Lord's commandments. Jesus explained this already in D&C 101:43-69

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Another point: most of what our government is doing right now is NOT the law of the land; killer jab mandates were NOT legal, if you look at the actual law, which is the constitution. FDA's own codes state that you cannot be forced to take any medical therapy, including any emergency use "vaccine" without full disclosure to you, and then only if you are given the choice. What they did, was very illegal, but they control the legal system for the most part and were able to get away with it for some time, before federal courts shut them down, but, because they control the courts, they have never been held accountable for their crimes. our governments. virtually ALL of them, operate under what is known as "statutory" law, not the common or "plain" law of the land. In court, this is often referred to as "the color of law", which, if proved, is a felony. the expression. or legal term "color of law", came about due to the unconstitutional Jim Crowe Laws, where many legislatures in the south passed laws that separated colored folks from white folks in restaurants, busses, drinking fountains, etc... none of which was legal under the plain language of the common law, which is the constitution.

And, believe it or not, the use of the "color of law", by our governments against us is totally prevalent today, and extremely difficult to unwind. Here's an example; most of if not all governments are corporations, complete with assigned Dunn and Bradstreet numbers - you can actually go to Dunn and Bradstreet (who openly endorses and promo tes ESG) and type in your City's name and they will give you their respective number! Remember, corporations have no legal hold on anyone or anything they did not "create" or, in other words, that they have a contract with, Let that sink in... In other words, all those codes and regulations from municipalities, cities, townships, etc..., are ILLEGAL. But make no mistake about it - fighting city hall, is not for the faint hearted. They have the high paid attorney's and the district judges pretty much on their side. But having said that, I am currently being sued by my local city gov (Magna Metro Township) for not getting a permit to add a 1 car garage onto my existing 2 car garage/home. Obviously I know I will ultimately win. I have some very knowledgeable and capable patriots assisting me with the court docs required, and just 2 days ago we filed a motion to dismiss that will make these attorney's crap their pants... but I digress. If you're interested in the actually filings it's civil court district 3 filing # 230907169, with the "honorable" Judge Keith Kelly. If that name doesn't ring a bell, he is the judge that suspended our legislature's law against biological men in girls bathrooms. See what I mean about judges being in bed with the higher powers?

This is another way I personally am fighting back against tyranny. I am currently taking a course called "how to win in court without a lawyer" by an attorney named Frederick Graves. I could not praise the course higher, and as Dr. Graves says "if you don't know your rights AND how to defend them, then you have no rights". The color of law or "lawfare" is HOW our tyrants are destroying our country - Marc Elias for the dems anyone? If you're interested in doing so yourself, you can take Dr. Grave's course "How to win in court without a lawyer". It costs $249, but he explains things so well. There is nothing else out there like it! I love it! and, Dr. Graves pays A min of $50 for referral who sign up for his course. Dr. Graves also has several YouTube clips where you can see who he is, and learn his thoughts. I also highly recommend the free Website "Affidavits101.com", as well as the Telegram site by the same. They are both ran by James Tracy, a true patriot who is getting some national recognition now. He actually wrote my "motion to dismiss" for me, that I submitted a couple of days ago.

Wow, did I ever stray off topic there. But what I'm trying to point out is that the church is giving in to the color of law, NOT the actual law of the land, the CONSTITUTION. Christ did not, nor would he ever do that! Amen! Fight back! Yes, I'm risking everything. No risk, no reward!

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Nevervaxxed wrote: October 14th, 2023, 9:31 am
Jason wrote: October 13th, 2023, 5:35 pm
fractal_light_harvest wrote: October 13th, 2023, 5:02 pm
Are you Neo from the Matrix??!! :lol: jk

I do agree with you. It wasn’t very inspired what they did.
Of course not...just following the dictates of their respective government...which is covered by inspiration...
Wherefore, be subject to the powers that be, until he reigns whose right it is to reign, and subdues all enemies under his feet.
https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/stu ... ng=eng#p22

...not to mention 12th Article of Faith...
We believe in being subject to kings, presidents, rulers, and magistrates, in obeying, honoring, and sustaining the law.
https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/stu ... 1?lang=eng

Who are the powers that be??? What does it mean to be subject?

Was not Covid-19 otherwise known as Operation Warp Speed a government operation? Did not the US Government (and it's subject entities) pay for the research? Are not the patents owned by the US Government (NIAID)? Did not the US Government starting under Trump and completing under Biden...pay for the marketing, the mRNA (DNA) delivery systems, and use all of it's power and influence to get the product to market and subsequently in the body of it's citizens?

Did not the Rockefeller Foundation recommend in May of 2020 in conjunction with John Hopkins Institute (operating under government grants) that in order to overcome vaccine hesitancy in the general population they needed to target trusted community leaders for their marketing...specifically faith based leaders? Did not the government use all of it's influence to carry out that strategic objective?

Rather than focus on symptoms...isn't it best to get to the root cause of the problem?

15's fault for abiding by divine directives? Being obedient to government directives?

Perhaps you expected them to toss all that out and openly rebel against the government with all the repercussions that entails? If so...do you live by your own expectations?
Jason, you bring up valid and difficult points... I think the Savior showed us the way; he followed the law of the land, but at the same time, stood up to and spoke against the powers that be. He called them out for their hypocrisy, and pointed out where they didn't adhere to their own preaching's, but although he never broke the law, he did and said the right thing knowing they would kill him for it - in other words, he "let the consequence follow". "Do what is RIGHT, let the consequence follow, BATTLE [legally, spiritually, honestly] for freedom in spirit and might"
Nevervaxxed, you make a hugely important salient point. Jesus never broke the law, but he did speak against falsehoods, etc. The problem with the church's posturing on the vaccine is that church leaders never spoke against the government. They never told the truth about the harm it could do. Not only did they follow the government's mandates, they imposed mandates of their own.

I'm not sure we can compare what Jesus did in terms of his relationship with the governing powers of his day, and the church's relationship with government today. If you do want to compare, then the comparison falls short---the church today acts as a mouthpiece for many government ills. It's not a pretty picture. And appears to be in direct conflict with how Jesus treated the powers of his day.
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Arm Chair Quarterback wrote: October 14th, 2023, 11:04 am
Nevervaxxed wrote: October 14th, 2023, 9:31 am
Jason wrote: October 13th, 2023, 5:35 pm

Of course not...just following the dictates of their respective government...which is covered by inspiration...


https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/stu ... ng=eng#p22

...not to mention 12th Article of Faith...


https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/stu ... 1?lang=eng

Who are the powers that be??? What does it mean to be subject?

Was not Covid-19 otherwise known as Operation Warp Speed a government operation? Did not the US Government (and it's subject entities) pay for the research? Are not the patents owned by the US Government (NIAID)? Did not the US Government starting under Trump and completing under Biden...pay for the marketing, the mRNA (DNA) delivery systems, and use all of it's power and influence to get the product to market and subsequently in the body of it's citizens?

Did not the Rockefeller Foundation recommend in May of 2020 in conjunction with John Hopkins Institute (operating under government grants) that in order to overcome vaccine hesitancy in the general population they needed to target trusted community leaders for their marketing...specifically faith based leaders? Did not the government use all of it's influence to carry out that strategic objective?

Rather than focus on symptoms...isn't it best to get to the root cause of the problem?

15's fault for abiding by divine directives? Being obedient to government directives?

Perhaps you expected them to toss all that out and openly rebel against the government with all the repercussions that entails? If so...do you live by your own expectations?
Jason, you bring up valid and difficult points... I think the Savior showed us the way; he followed the law of the land, but at the same time, stood up to and spoke against the powers that be. He called them out for their hypocrisy, and pointed out where they didn't adhere to their own preaching's, but although he never broke the law, he did and said the right thing knowing they would kill him for it - in other words, he "let the consequence follow". "Do what is RIGHT, let the consequence follow, BATTLE [legally, spiritually, honestly] for freedom in spirit and might"
Untaxed, you make a hugely important salient point. Jesus never broke the law, but he did speak against falsehoods, etc. The problem with the church's posturing and the vaccine is that they never spoke against the government. They never told the truth about the harm it could do. Not only did the follow the governments mandates, they imposed mandates of their own. I don't think we can compare what Jesus did in terms of his relationship with the governing powers of his day, and the church's relationship with government today. Or if you do want to compare, then the comparison falls short---the church today acts as a mouthpiece for many government ills. It's not a pretty picture. And certainly is in opposition to how Jesus treated the powers of his day.
Exactly, Our Gov hasn't been following the law of the land for a long time now, Statutory law is "color of Law", not real law, and is a felony!

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Jason wrote: October 13th, 2023, 5:41 pm
Telavian wrote: October 13th, 2023, 5:37 pm
Jason wrote: October 13th, 2023, 5:35 pm Perhaps you expected them to toss all that out and openly rebel against the government with all the repercussions that entails? If so...do you live by your own expectations?
Certainly you are right. If people expect the church to be bold against evil then they should also do so in their lives.
However, there is a marked difference between agreeing with and advocating for vs remaining silent.
The church has been bold against evil...but it also has to survive until the Master arrives...and He openly directed that they be subject to the powers that be until He does arrive. Who are the powers that be in the meantime?
Bold against evil????????????

Like partnering with the UN, NAACP???
Like publicly endorsing the gay marriage act?
Like setting up shell companies and lying to the members???
Like "urging" the clot-shot when they could have said NOTHING???
Like snuggling up to the evil globalist/communist pope Francis???

Being subject to the powers that be in the US means subject to our Supreme law of the land...the constitution. It doesn't mean blindly following stupidity, ignorance or evil tyranny.

Look closely at Ballard's and Rasband's UN 17 SDG'S lapel pins...which they proudly wear by their OWN free will and choice...Do you even understand what that represents?...and means???

If you want to blindly follow Q15 and apologize for their bad behavior, that's your choice...but don't be critical to those who point out their hypocritical behavior and utterly false doctrine of "cannot lead you astray"...because they most certainly DID lead people astray!!!

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Jason wrote: October 13th, 2023, 5:35 pm
fractal_light_harvest wrote: October 13th, 2023, 5:02 pm
The Red Pill wrote: October 13th, 2023, 4:57 pm

Q15 has also gone out of their way NOT to talk about the uninspired "urging" of the deadly-jab...and it's obvious they want TBM'S the world over to consider it a closed topic. Otherwise their "see around corners" and "cannot lead you astray" image would crumble to dust.

NEVER FORGET!!!
Are you Neo from the Matrix??!! :lol: jk

I do agree with you. It wasn’t very inspired what they did.
Of course not...just following the dictates of their respective government...which is covered by inspiration...
Wherefore, be subject to the powers that be, until he reigns whose right it is to reign, and subdues all enemies under his feet.
https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/stu ... ng=eng#p22

...not to mention 12th Article of Faith...
We believe in being subject to kings, presidents, rulers, and magistrates, in obeying, honoring, and sustaining the law.
https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/stu ... 1?lang=eng

Who are the powers that be??? What does it mean to be subject?

Was not Covid-19 otherwise known as Operation Warp Speed a government operation? Did not the US Government (and it's subject entities) pay for the research? Are not the patents owned by the US Government (NIAID)? Did not the US Government starting under Trump and completing under Biden...pay for the marketing, the mRNA (DNA) delivery systems, and use all of it's power and influence to get the product to market and subsequently in the body of it's citizens?

Did not the Rockefeller Foundation recommend in May of 2020 in conjunction with John Hopkins Institute (operating under government grants) that in order to overcome vaccine hesitancy in the general population they needed to target trusted community leaders for their marketing...specifically faith based leaders? Did not the government use all of it's influence to carry out that strategic objective?

Rather than focus on symptoms...isn't it best to get to the root cause of the problem?

15's fault for abiding by divine directives? Being obedient to government directives?

Perhaps you expected them to toss all that out and openly rebel against the government with all the repercussions that entails? If so...do you live by your own expectations?
Jason, when will you and your church oppose government edicts? Per church culture, you follow the laws. What happens when the laws directly contradict Christ’s teachings? What happens when it becomes a crime to be a Christian? It is happening before our very eyes.

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Nevervaxxed wrote: October 14th, 2023, 9:31 am
Jason wrote: October 13th, 2023, 5:35 pm
fractal_light_harvest wrote: October 13th, 2023, 5:02 pm
Are you Neo from the Matrix??!! :lol: jk

I do agree with you. It wasn’t very inspired what they did.
Of course not...just following the dictates of their respective government...which is covered by inspiration...
Wherefore, be subject to the powers that be, until he reigns whose right it is to reign, and subdues all enemies under his feet.
https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/stu ... ng=eng#p22

...not to mention 12th Article of Faith...
We believe in being subject to kings, presidents, rulers, and magistrates, in obeying, honoring, and sustaining the law.
https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/stu ... 1?lang=eng

Who are the powers that be??? What does it mean to be subject?

Was not Covid-19 otherwise known as Operation Warp Speed a government operation? Did not the US Government (and it's subject entities) pay for the research? Are not the patents owned by the US Government (NIAID)? Did not the US Government starting under Trump and completing under Biden...pay for the marketing, the mRNA (DNA) delivery systems, and use all of it's power and influence to get the product to market and subsequently in the body of it's citizens?

Did not the Rockefeller Foundation recommend in May of 2020 in conjunction with John Hopkins Institute (operating under government grants) that in order to overcome vaccine hesitancy in the general population they needed to target trusted community leaders for their marketing...specifically faith based leaders? Did not the government use all of it's influence to carry out that strategic objective?

Rather than focus on symptoms...isn't it best to get to the root cause of the problem?

15's fault for abiding by divine directives? Being obedient to government directives?

Perhaps you expected them to toss all that out and openly rebel against the government with all the repercussions that entails? If so...do you live by your own expectations?
Jason, you bring up valid and difficult points... I think the Savior showed us the way; he followed the law of the land, but at the same time, stood up to and spoke against the powers that be. He called them out for their hypocrisy, and pointed out where they didn't adhere to their own preaching's, but although he never broke the law, he did and said the right thing knowing they would kill him for it - in other words, he "let the consequence follow". "Do what is RIGHT, let the consequence follow, BATTLE [legally, spiritually, honestly] for freedom in spirit and might"
Jesus did break the law, the law of Moses.

And I know, I know, we can quote the BoM where it teaches He fulfilled the law, but in many regards he did break the law of Moses.

The AoF #12 is misunderstood. What happens when professing to be Christian is against the law?

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The Lord won't preserve the church when the leaders "go along to get along". He will preserve the church when the leaders keep the commandments. There is nothing in the scriptures that says we must join with evil to survive, but lots of scriptures that explain that because we join with evil, we will be punished.

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Jason wrote:
Who are the powers that be???…

Was not Covid-19 otherwise known as Operation Warp Speed a government operation? Did not the US Government (and it's subject entities) pay for the research? Are not the patents owned by the US Government (NIAID)? Did not the US Government starting under Trump and completing under Biden...pay for the marketing, the mRNA (DNA) delivery systems, and use all of it's power and influence to get the product to market and subsequently in the body of it's citizens?

Did not the Rockefeller Foundation recommend in May of 2020 in conjunction with John Hopkins Institute (operating under government grants) that in order to overcome vaccine hesitancy in the general population they needed to target trusted community leaders for their marketing...specifically faith based leaders? Did not the government use all of it's influence to carry out that strategic objective?…
How quickly church leaders engaged in unethical unrighteous dominion and illegal medical coercion indicates (IMO) that they are deeply entrenched with the powers that be. Blackmail with videos, as they took on Epstein island of everyone who visited there.

Nelson’s daughter was the “cheer leader” and took videos during child-sex abuse parties.

Monson’s son was similarly involved in a case that seemed covered up too.

Of course both cases were “dismissed” and few even know about them.

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Thinker wrote: October 15th, 2023, 10:04 am

Of course both cases were “dismissed” and few even know about them.


Thanks to the social media "fast" issued from the top.

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Reluctant Watchman wrote: October 15th, 2023, 9:42 am
Jason wrote: October 13th, 2023, 5:35 pm
fractal_light_harvest wrote: October 13th, 2023, 5:02 pm
Are you Neo from the Matrix??!! :lol: jk

I do agree with you. It wasn’t very inspired what they did.
Of course not...just following the dictates of their respective government...which is covered by inspiration...
Wherefore, be subject to the powers that be, until he reigns whose right it is to reign, and subdues all enemies under his feet.
https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/stu ... ng=eng#p22

...not to mention 12th Article of Faith...
We believe in being subject to kings, presidents, rulers, and magistrates, in obeying, honoring, and sustaining the law.
https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/stu ... 1?lang=eng

Who are the powers that be??? What does it mean to be subject?

Was not Covid-19 otherwise known as Operation Warp Speed a government operation? Did not the US Government (and it's subject entities) pay for the research? Are not the patents owned by the US Government (NIAID)? Did not the US Government starting under Trump and completing under Biden...pay for the marketing, the mRNA (DNA) delivery systems, and use all of it's power and influence to get the product to market and subsequently in the body of it's citizens?

Did not the Rockefeller Foundation recommend in May of 2020 in conjunction with John Hopkins Institute (operating under government grants) that in order to overcome vaccine hesitancy in the general population they needed to target trusted community leaders for their marketing...specifically faith based leaders? Did not the government use all of it's influence to carry out that strategic objective?

Rather than focus on symptoms...isn't it best to get to the root cause of the problem?

15's fault for abiding by divine directives? Being obedient to government directives?

Perhaps you expected them to toss all that out and openly rebel against the government with all the repercussions that entails? If so...do you live by your own expectations?
Jason, when will you and your church oppose government edicts? Per church culture, you follow the laws. What happens when the laws directly contradict Christ’s teachings? What happens when it becomes a crime to be a Christian? It is happening before our very eyes.
It's worse than that Reluctant; the church isn't following the law - our gov, and the "powers that be", which I believe is synonymous with the cabal/globalist/satan-worshipping, elite wealthy and descendants of the sanhedrin, are NOT following the constitution, which IS the Supreme Law of the Land - they are "inventing" law; engaging in creating law that is therefore "illegal", under the "color of law", which is a felony in and of itself, not to mention their traitorous actions against this country are punishable by death.

BTW, I hope to be proven wrong with all my heart, but this is exactly why I think we'll find Ezra'a Eagle prophecy to be correct, in that we will NEVER have another president of this country; The evil cabal that currently rules this country cannot afford to let anyone into power that will hold them accountable for their actions, so they will do anything to stop it, no matter (it's what they want) what they have to do to stop it, including nuclear war. They KNOW more and more people are seeing them for what they are, and it's making it harder and harder to "select" their evil politicians, so they'll just burn it all down. We are there folks; from now to selection 2024 is going to be catastrophic - but I couldn't even begin to describe exactly who, when, and where, what, or how; it's going to be chaos, and from virtually every direction, but I doubt Kennedy or Trump are alive by then, or at least shortly after... that's my take. We shall see! Exciting, scary times! Without my family to protect, it would be a whole lot less scary - watching any of them suffer and/or die will rip my heart out, even knowing it's nothing inGod's grand scheme of things, so I'm prepping like mad to be as prepared as possible!

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