Things prophets do
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Mamabear
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Things prophets do
Prophesy.
Gather believers to their fold.
Teach doctrine.
Perform miracles.
Bless the sick.
Visit and help the poor.
Teach about false prophets.
Testify of Christ.
Things prophets don’t do:
Get paid to be prophets.
Hide money believers money in the stock market and create shell companies.
Have a crooked law firm that protects molesters.
Have fake ordinances like the second anointing.
Micro manage the flock.
Teach doctrines of men.
Testify of each other.
Gather believers to their fold.
Teach doctrine.
Perform miracles.
Bless the sick.
Visit and help the poor.
Teach about false prophets.
Testify of Christ.
Things prophets don’t do:
Get paid to be prophets.
Hide money believers money in the stock market and create shell companies.
Have a crooked law firm that protects molesters.
Have fake ordinances like the second anointing.
Micro manage the flock.
Teach doctrines of men.
Testify of each other.
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Leland41-2
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Re: Things prophets do
Here is one way to say the same thing in 65 pages instead of one page.Mamabear wrote: ↑October 8th, 2023, 10:45 am Prophesy.
Gather believers to their fold.
Teach doctrine.
Perform miracles.
Bless the sick.
Visit and help the poor.
Teach about false prophets.
Testify of Christ.
Things prophets don’t do:
Get paid to be prophets.
Hide money believers money in the stock market and create shell companies.
Have a crooked law firm that protects molesters.
Have fake ordinances like the second anointing.
Micro manage the flock.
Teach doctrines of men.
Testify of each other.
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Pathway2DaCross
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Re: Things prophets do
The Profit tells the membership. Every WORTHY Young male should prepare and serve a mission. The next question. Is the profit WORTHY? Do what I say. Not what I do. He had Every opportunity to during his time. Especially during war and postwar era. I guess his career was more important.
- LDS Physician
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Re: Things prophets do
No one in the First Presidency served a full-time mission.Pathway2DaCross wrote: ↑October 15th, 2023, 11:10 am The Profit tells the membership. Every WORTHY Young male should prepare and serve a mission. The next question. Is the profit WORTHY? Do what I say. Not what I do. He had Every opportunity to during his time. Especially during war and postwar era. I guess his career was more important.
- Libertas Est Salus
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Re: Things prophets do
Which is very interesting. Now, I do not judge anyone for not serving a mission, but doesn't this seem odd? Is this the first time in church history the entire FP lacked an RM?LDS Physician wrote: ↑October 15th, 2023, 12:21 pmNo one in the First Presidency served a full-time mission.Pathway2DaCross wrote: ↑October 15th, 2023, 11:10 am The Profit tells the membership. Every WORTHY Young male should prepare and serve a mission. The next question. Is the profit WORTHY? Do what I say. Not what I do. He had Every opportunity to during his time. Especially during war and postwar era. I guess his career was more important.
- cyclOps
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Re: Things prophets do
NoLibertas Est Salus wrote: ↑October 15th, 2023, 2:24 pmWhich is very interesting. Now, I do not judge anyone for not serving a mission, but doesn't this seem odd? Is this the first time in church history the entire FP lacked an RM?LDS Physician wrote: ↑October 15th, 2023, 12:21 pmNo one in the First Presidency served a full-time mission.Pathway2DaCross wrote: ↑October 15th, 2023, 11:10 am The Profit tells the membership. Every WORTHY Young male should prepare and serve a mission. The next question. Is the profit WORTHY? Do what I say. Not what I do. He had Every opportunity to during his time. Especially during war and postwar era. I guess his career was more important.
- Libertas Est Salus
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Re: Things prophets do
I believe you. But when was the last one?cyclOps wrote: ↑October 15th, 2023, 2:40 pmNoLibertas Est Salus wrote: ↑October 15th, 2023, 2:24 pmWhich is very interesting. Now, I do not judge anyone for not serving a mission, but doesn't this seem odd? Is this the first time in church history the entire FP lacked an RM?LDS Physician wrote: ↑October 15th, 2023, 12:21 pm
No one in the First Presidency served a full-time mission.
- Seed Starter
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Re: Things prophets do
Speaking of micro-managing and testifying of one another I got this email from HQ this morning:Mamabear wrote: ↑October 8th, 2023, 10:45 am Prophesy.
Gather believers to their fold.
Teach doctrine.
Perform miracles.
Bless the sick.
Visit and help the poor.
Teach about false prophets.
Testify of Christ.
Things prophets don’t do:
Get paid to be prophets.
Hide money believers money in the stock market and create shell companies.
Have a crooked law firm that protects molesters.
Have fake ordinances like the second anointing.
Micro manage the flock.
Teach doctrines of men.
Testify of each other.
Subject: What's New, Practical Tips, and More
General Conference Talks Are Now Available
General conference talks are now available to read, watch, or listen to in the Gospel Library. As you review the messages that were shared, consider the following questions:
Why is general conference important to you? What blessings have you received that you might want to share with others?
Here are a few ideas about how to share the blessings that come from general conference:
Help your friends understand why general conference is important to you.
Explain that we have living prophets and apostles, and share how that can benefit them.
Share on social media about the messages that inspired you or helped you answer a question.
Follow the Church’s social media channels to find memes, quotes, and images related to general conference.
For more ideas, see share.ChurchofJesusChrist.org.
To see the October 2023 general conference talk summaries, news, and announcements, visit the summary page.
- Seed Starter
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Does Skull and Bones count? It spreads A sort of gospelLDS Physician wrote: ↑October 15th, 2023, 12:21 pmNo one in the First Presidency served a full-time mission.Pathway2DaCross wrote: ↑October 15th, 2023, 11:10 am The Profit tells the membership. Every WORTHY Young male should prepare and serve a mission. The next question. Is the profit WORTHY? Do what I say. Not what I do. He had Every opportunity to during his time. Especially during war and postwar era. I guess his career was more important.
- cyclOps
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Re: Things prophets do
Thomas S Monson, Henry B Eyring, Dieter F Uchtdorf (2008-2018)Libertas Est Salus wrote: ↑October 15th, 2023, 5:34 pmI believe you. But when was the last one?cyclOps wrote: ↑October 15th, 2023, 2:40 pmNoLibertas Est Salus wrote: ↑October 15th, 2023, 2:24 pm
Which is very interesting. Now, I do not judge anyone for not serving a mission, but doesn't this seem odd? Is this the first time in church history the entire FP lacked an RM?
There could be more, but I don’t know.
- Libertas Est Salus
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Re: Things prophets do
Well I feel embarrassed I couldn't think of that on my own, right away.
Thanks!
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Atrasado
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Re: Things prophets do
Well, not to their fold. That would make them thieves like the men who lead the Church right now. I think you meant to the fold, meaning the Lord's fold.Mamabear wrote: ↑October 8th, 2023, 10:45 am Prophesy.
Gather believers to their fold.
Teach doctrine.
Perform miracles.
Bless the sick.
Visit and help the poor.
Teach about false prophets.
Testify of Christ.
Things prophets don’t do:
Get paid to be prophets.
Hide money believers money in the stock market and create shell companies.
Have a crooked law firm that protects molesters.
Have fake ordinances like the second anointing.
Micro manage the flock.
Teach doctrines of men.
Testify of each other.
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Mamabear
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Re: Things prophets do
Not surprising. Is this the church of general conference?Seed Starter wrote: ↑October 15th, 2023, 6:47 pmSpeaking of micro-managing and testifying of one another I got this email from HQ this morning:Mamabear wrote: ↑October 8th, 2023, 10:45 am Prophesy.
Gather believers to their fold.
Teach doctrine.
Perform miracles.
Bless the sick.
Visit and help the poor.
Teach about false prophets.
Testify of Christ.
Things prophets don’t do:
Get paid to be prophets.
Hide money believers money in the stock market and create shell companies.
Have a crooked law firm that protects molesters.
Have fake ordinances like the second anointing.
Micro manage the flock.
Teach doctrines of men.
Testify of each other.
Subject: What's New, Practical Tips, and More
General Conference Talks Are Now Available
General conference talks are now available to read, watch, or listen to in the Gospel Library. As you review the messages that were shared, consider the following questions:
Why is general conference important to you? What blessings have you received that you might want to share with others?
Here are a few ideas about how to share the blessings that come from general conference:
Help your friends understand why general conference is important to you.
Explain that we have living prophets and apostles, and share how that can benefit them.
Share on social media about the messages that inspired you or helped you answer a question.
Follow the Church’s social media channels to find memes, quotes, and images related to general conference.
For more ideas, see share.ChurchofJesusChrist.org.
To see the October 2023 general conference talk summaries, news, and announcements, visit the summary page.
- InfoWarrior82
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Re: Things prophets do
Is there a common characteristic of all the prophets in our scriptures?
We know that not all prophets are on the same level. Not all healed the sick, not all saw the Lord with their eyes. Not all did supernatural things.
But I do contend that all of them heard the literal words of the Lord and wrote them down to preserve them as a matter of record for future people.
Who was the last LDS leader to write down the literal words of the Lord and why?
We know that not all prophets are on the same level. Not all healed the sick, not all saw the Lord with their eyes. Not all did supernatural things.
But I do contend that all of them heard the literal words of the Lord and wrote them down to preserve them as a matter of record for future people.
Who was the last LDS leader to write down the literal words of the Lord and why?
- Robin Hood
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Re: Things prophets do
Or is it that the only reason we think all prophets hear and write God's words is because they are the only ones we have a record of.InfoWarrior82 wrote: ↑October 16th, 2023, 6:41 am Is there a common characteristic of all the prophets in our scriptures?
We know that not all prophets are on the same level. Not all healed the sick, not all saw the Lord with their eyes. Not all did supernatural things.
But I do contend that all of them heard the literal words of the Lord and wrote them down to preserve them as a matter of record for future people.
Who was the last LDS leader to write down the literal words of the Lord and why?
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Well, first off, the very definition of a prophet of God is one who hears God’s voice. Exactly how this person hears God is subject to the individual, but there are a series of tell-tale signs and manifestations. I think there are many “prophets” in the sense that they are inspired with truth from on high by the Spirit. Which also reinforces the role of the Holy Ghost in conveying the mind and will of God to us.Robin Hood wrote: ↑October 16th, 2023, 7:02 amOr is it that the only reason we think all prophets hear and write God's words is because they are the only ones we have a record of.InfoWarrior82 wrote: ↑October 16th, 2023, 6:41 am Is there a common characteristic of all the prophets in our scriptures?
We know that not all prophets are on the same level. Not all healed the sick, not all saw the Lord with their eyes. Not all did supernatural things.
But I do contend that all of them heard the literal words of the Lord and wrote them down to preserve them as a matter of record for future people.
Who was the last LDS leader to write down the literal words of the Lord and why?
Moses invited us all to become prophets.
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Re: Things prophets do
I only have the scriptures to use as a measuring stick.Robin Hood wrote: ↑October 16th, 2023, 7:02 amOr is it that the only reason we think all prophets hear and write God's words is because they are the only ones we have a record of.InfoWarrior82 wrote: ↑October 16th, 2023, 6:41 am Is there a common characteristic of all the prophets in our scriptures?
We know that not all prophets are on the same level. Not all healed the sick, not all saw the Lord with their eyes. Not all did supernatural things.
But I do contend that all of them heard the literal words of the Lord and wrote them down to preserve them as a matter of record for future people.
Who was the last LDS leader to write down the literal words of the Lord and why?
Do you at least agree that there has been a clear demarcation of this very thing in modern day leaders of the LDS Church?
If so, what is the reason for it?
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Hiker
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Re: Things prophets do
Prophets don't urge the flock to take poison. “Godsend”Mamabear wrote: ↑October 8th, 2023, 10:45 am Prophesy.
Gather believers to their fold.
Teach doctrine.
Perform miracles.
Bless the sick.
Visit and help the poor.
Teach about false prophets.
Testify of Christ.
Things prophets don’t do:
Get paid to be prophets.
Hide money believers money in the stock market and create shell companies.
Have a crooked law firm that protects molesters.
Have fake ordinances like the second anointing.
Micro manage the flock.
Teach doctrines of men.
Testify of each other.
- InfoWarrior82
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Re: Things prophets do
Prophets also do not urge their members to be "Good Global Citizens". AKA join with secret combinations. (U.N., W.E.F., etc)Hiker wrote: ↑October 16th, 2023, 9:46 amProphets don't urge the flock to take poison. “Godsend”Mamabear wrote: ↑October 8th, 2023, 10:45 am Prophesy.
Gather believers to their fold.
Teach doctrine.
Perform miracles.
Bless the sick.
Visit and help the poor.
Teach about false prophets.
Testify of Christ.
Things prophets don’t do:
Get paid to be prophets.
Hide money believers money in the stock market and create shell companies.
Have a crooked law firm that protects molesters.
Have fake ordinances like the second anointing.
Micro manage the flock.
Teach doctrines of men.
Testify of each other.
- LDS Physician
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Re: Things prophets do
The Lord defined what a prophet is in Numbers 12:
"Hear now my words: If there be a prophet among you, I the Lord will make myself known unto him in a vision, and will speak unto him in a dream."
And since DHO has admitted that none of them have had any of the above manifestations, I suppose this means they're not prophets.
https://youtu.be/GrMJ2YZD62M?si=lSFuYNwSpFqiIcwN
"Hear now my words: If there be a prophet among you, I the Lord will make myself known unto him in a vision, and will speak unto him in a dream."
And since DHO has admitted that none of them have had any of the above manifestations, I suppose this means they're not prophets.
https://youtu.be/GrMJ2YZD62M?si=lSFuYNwSpFqiIcwN
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JuneBug12000
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Re: Things prophets do
3 of the last 4 came from inactive or semi active families.Libertas Est Salus wrote: ↑October 15th, 2023, 2:24 pmWhich is very interesting. Now, I do not judge anyone for not serving a mission, but doesn't this seem odd? Is this the first time in church history the entire FP lacked an RM?LDS Physician wrote: ↑October 15th, 2023, 12:21 pmNo one in the First Presidency served a full-time mission.Pathway2DaCross wrote: ↑October 15th, 2023, 11:10 am The Profit tells the membership. Every WORTHY Young male should prepare and serve a mission. The next question. Is the profit WORTHY? Do what I say. Not what I do. He had Every opportunity to during his time. Especially during war and postwar era. I guess his career was more important.
Monson's and Nelson's parents weren't active LDS. Hunter's mom was active LDS, dad was not. Hinckley's were active LDS.
- Robin Hood
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Re: Things prophets do
I don't doubt it.InfoWarrior82 wrote: ↑October 16th, 2023, 7:47 amI only have the scriptures to use as a measuring stick.Robin Hood wrote: ↑October 16th, 2023, 7:02 amOr is it that the only reason we think all prophets hear and write God's words is because they are the only ones we have a record of.InfoWarrior82 wrote: ↑October 16th, 2023, 6:41 am Is there a common characteristic of all the prophets in our scriptures?
We know that not all prophets are on the same level. Not all healed the sick, not all saw the Lord with their eyes. Not all did supernatural things.
But I do contend that all of them heard the literal words of the Lord and wrote them down to preserve them as a matter of record for future people.
Who was the last LDS leader to write down the literal words of the Lord and why?
Do you at least agree that there has been a clear demarcation of this very thing in modern day leaders of the LDS Church?
If so, what is the reason for it?
I'm not sure of the reason, I think there is probably more than one.
But the leadership is generally a reflection of the members. In other words we get the leaders, prophets or otherwise, that we deserve.
- InfoWarrior82
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Re: Things prophets do
I don't think that's a true doctrine when it comes to prophets. World leaders, yes... But it seems that the Lord always calls someone to preach His Word to the wicked.Robin Hood wrote: ↑October 16th, 2023, 2:08 pmI don't doubt it.InfoWarrior82 wrote: ↑October 16th, 2023, 7:47 amI only have the scriptures to use as a measuring stick.Robin Hood wrote: ↑October 16th, 2023, 7:02 am
Or is it that the only reason we think all prophets hear and write God's words is because they are the only ones we have a record of.
Do you at least agree that there has been a clear demarcation of this very thing in modern day leaders of the LDS Church?
If so, what is the reason for it?
I'm not sure of the reason, I think there is probably more than one.
But the leadership is generally a reflection of the members. In other words we get the leaders, prophets or otherwise, that we deserve.
- SJR3t2
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Re: Things prophets do
prophets testify boldly of Yeshua and prophecy
seers translate not pay others to translate
revelators reveal new things that don't contradict what YHWH has already said.
https://seekingyhwh.org/2015/10/04/in-h ... yesterday/
seers translate not pay others to translate
revelators reveal new things that don't contradict what YHWH has already said.
https://seekingyhwh.org/2015/10/04/in-h ... yesterday/
