Pope suggests blessings for same-sex unions possible.

[Teancum1]

The Honor Code to get into any CES affiliated school says the following RE Homosexuality:

Maintain an Ecclesiastical Endorsement, including striving to deepen faith and maintain gospel standards
Be honest
Live a chaste and virtuous life, including abstaining from sexual relations outside marriage between a man and a woman. Living a chaste and virtuous life also includes abstaining from same-sex romantic behavior.
Abstain from alcoholic beverages, tobacco, tea, coffee, vaping, marijuana, and other substance abuse
Participate regularly in Church services
Respect others, including the avoidance of profane and vulgar language
Obey the law and follow campus policies, including the CES Dress and Grooming standards
Encourage others in their commitment to comply with the Honor Code and Dress and Grooming standards.

Dress and Grooming Standards:

Represent the Savior Jesus Christ, the Church, and the Church Educational System
Preserve an inspiring environment, without distraction or disruption, where covenants are kept in a spirit of unity so the Holy Ghost can teach truth
Promote modesty, cleanliness, neatness, and restraint in dress and grooming
Maintain an elevated standard distinctive to educational institutions of the Church of Jesus Christ

Tell me. Do you believe the church will disciple or expel a same sex couple from holding hands, kissing, petting on campus or in the privacy of their own apartments? Of course not. The publicity would be a mess for them and the church can’t hurt their feelings. That would not be peacemaking.

The point is that they have opened the door to this behavior and instead of preaching repentance and forsaking sin, they are incrementally accepting this behavior as God given. And apparently you are ok with waiting a few more years for someone to die before new “revelation “ from Uchtdorf or whoever blesses their marriages in the temple.

The Church leadership have ZERO problems with kicking out a gay couple that are kissing each other in the middle of a Sacrament service, at least here in Mexico that is the case. That's assuming, of course, that someone in the Priesthood didn't see it first and gave the couple a pair of knuckle sandwiches.

If it happens in private and no one knows about it, of course the Church here would not respond UNLESS they made it public on all of their social media. We don't care too much about how OTHERS see us. We care about following the Lord's way that He has laid out for us, which is called by the leaders the Covenant Path.

That's probably why we are growing here in Mexico and why in the USA and in Utah y'all are stagnating if not shrinking altogether. We understand the commandments. People here understand that you need a bull and a cow to make more bulls and cows, and that two bulls or two cows won't get the job done.

There have been five new stakes and a district (smaller version of a stake where you have branches instead of wards) formed in my geographical region since I moved here 13 years ago.

What happens in the Gentile lands is that they take a statement made by a leader, or the lack thereof, to excuse themselves from having to obey the Law of Chastity. They are following the same path Nehor took 2100 years ago.

What happens among the sons of Lehi is quite different. They are very strict in keeping the commandments as written and have a higher level of understanding.

We have in the Scriptures that the sons of Lehi will blossom as the rose. President Kimball had a marvelous vision of Mexico that is being fulfilled to the letter. We also have in the Scriptures that the Gentiles that do not repent will be swept off the earth, and those that will be sweeping them off the earth will be like wolves in the middle of sheep.

You obviously haven’t been to BYU- the flagship university of the Lords church.

[JuneBug12000]

The Honor Code to get into any CES affiliated school says the following RE Homosexuality:

Maintain an Ecclesiastical Endorsement, including striving to deepen faith and maintain gospel standards
Be honest
Live a chaste and virtuous life, including abstaining from sexual relations outside marriage between a man and a woman. Living a chaste and virtuous life also includes abstaining from same-sex romantic behavior.
Abstain from alcoholic beverages, tobacco, tea, coffee, vaping, marijuana, and other substance abuse
Participate regularly in Church services
Respect others, including the avoidance of profane and vulgar language
Obey the law and follow campus policies, including the CES Dress and Grooming standards
Encourage others in their commitment to comply with the Honor Code and Dress and Grooming standards.

Dress and Grooming Standards:

Represent the Savior Jesus Christ, the Church, and the Church Educational System
Preserve an inspiring environment, without distraction or disruption, where covenants are kept in a spirit of unity so the Holy Ghost can teach truth
Promote modesty, cleanliness, neatness, and restraint in dress and grooming
Maintain an elevated standard distinctive to educational institutions of the Church of Jesus Christ

Tell me. Do you believe the church will disciple or expel a same sex couple from holding hands, kissing, petting on campus or in the privacy of their own apartments? Of course not. The publicity would be a mess for them and the church can’t hurt their feelings. That would not be peacemaking.

The point is that they have opened the door to this behavior and instead of preaching repentance and forsaking sin, they are incrementally accepting this behavior as God given. And apparently you are ok with waiting a few more years for someone to die before new “revelation “ from Uchtdorf or whoever blesses their marriages in the temple.

The Church leadership have ZERO problems with kicking out a gay couple that are kissing each other in the middle of a Sacrament service, at least here in Mexico that is the case. That's assuming, of course, that someone in the Priesthood didn't see it first and gave the couple a pair of knuckle sandwiches.

If it happens in private and no one knows about it, of course the Church here would not respond UNLESS they made it public on all of their social media. We don't care too much about how OTHERS see us. We care about following the Lord's way that He has laid out for us, which is called by the leaders the Covenant Path.

That's probably why we are growing here in Mexico and why in the USA and in Utah y'all are stagnating if not shrinking altogether. We understand the commandments. People here understand that you need a bull and a cow to make more bulls and cows, and that two bulls or two cows won't get the job done.

There have been five new stakes and a district (smaller version of a stake where you have branches instead of wards) formed in my geographical region since I moved here 13 years ago.

What happens in the Gentile lands is that they take a statement made by a leader, or the lack thereof, to excuse themselves from having to obey the Law of Chastity. They are following the same path Nehor took 2100 years ago.

What happens among the sons of Lehi is quite different. They are very strict in keeping the commandments as written and have a higher level of understanding.

We have in the Scriptures that the sons of Lehi will blossom as the rose. President Kimball had a marvelous vision of Mexico that is being fulfilled to the letter. We also have in the Scriptures that the Gentiles that do not repent will be swept off the earth, and those that will be sweeping them off the earth will be like wolves in the middle of sheep.

Sub, you've made a lot of progress.

And your assessment may be true where you are at in Mexico.

But I can assure you, it is not ubiquitous among LatAm or even LDS LatAm.

There is danger in thinking one is safe.

As one who loves you as a fellow disciple of Christ and truth seeker. Be vigilant, especially with your own family.

[Subcomandante]

Tell me. Do you believe the church will disciple or expel a same sex couple from holding hands, kissing, petting on campus or in the privacy of their own apartments? Of course not. The publicity would be a mess for them and the church can’t hurt their feelings. That would not be peacemaking.

The point is that they have opened the door to this behavior and instead of preaching repentance and forsaking sin, they are incrementally accepting this behavior as God given. And apparently you are ok with waiting a few more years for someone to die before new “revelation “ from Uchtdorf or whoever blesses their marriages in the temple.

The Church leadership have ZERO problems with kicking out a gay couple that are kissing each other in the middle of a Sacrament service, at least here in Mexico that is the case. That's assuming, of course, that someone in the Priesthood didn't see it first and gave the couple a pair of knuckle sandwiches.

If it happens in private and no one knows about it, of course the Church here would not respond UNLESS they made it public on all of their social media. We don't care too much about how OTHERS see us. We care about following the Lord's way that He has laid out for us, which is called by the leaders the Covenant Path.

That's probably why we are growing here in Mexico and why in the USA and in Utah y'all are stagnating if not shrinking altogether. We understand the commandments. People here understand that you need a bull and a cow to make more bulls and cows, and that two bulls or two cows won't get the job done.

There have been five new stakes and a district (smaller version of a stake where you have branches instead of wards) formed in my geographical region since I moved here 13 years ago.

What happens in the Gentile lands is that they take a statement made by a leader, or the lack thereof, to excuse themselves from having to obey the Law of Chastity. They are following the same path Nehor took 2100 years ago.

What happens among the sons of Lehi is quite different. They are very strict in keeping the commandments as written and have a higher level of understanding.

We have in the Scriptures that the sons of Lehi will blossom as the rose. President Kimball had a marvelous vision of Mexico that is being fulfilled to the letter. We also have in the Scriptures that the Gentiles that do not repent will be swept off the earth, and those that will be sweeping them off the earth will be like wolves in the middle of sheep.

Sub, you've made a lot of progress.

And your assessment may be true where you are at in Mexico.

But I can assure you, it is not ubiquitous among LatAm or even LDS LatAm.

There is danger in thinking one is safe.

As one who loves you as a fellow disciple of Christ and truth seeker. Be vigilant, especially with your own family.

We are always vigilant.

Our school system is trying to throw in the gender ideology from first grade on even using words like todxs or todes instead of todos or todas. Our local leadership is pretty wide awake concerning these things and is telling the parents to watch out for those things with their kids. Some have even led book burning activities where the "free textbooks" are launched into a bonfire.

The conservative Catholics as well as the Evangelicals have likewise been VERY open in their opposition to the new material despite the "progres" attempt to denounce such acts opposing their definition of progress as "Hitlerian".

We have been observant of what's going on north of the border. We aren't about to take this laying down. In fact, more and more people have shown open opposition to the United States for even trying to impose their will on Mexico and there is an increase of support of RUS/CHN forces on the ground here.

[Christianlee]

Archbishop Vigano responds regarding the apostasy of Bergoglio:

https://youtu.be/K98-fjc4qcE?si=PAsocWm0jdJCqXxl

https://www.lifesitenews.com/opinion/ar ... mpaign=usa


“Archbishop Carlo Maria Viganò has released the following statement on the ongoing theological debate over the status of Pope Francis and the papacy. In many ways, this is his most pointed criticism yet. His Excellency argues that given the devastation caused by “Jorge Mario Bergoglio” on the universal Church — which stems from his embrace of the “cancer” of Vatican II — and given the role the Saint Gallen mafia played in the 2013 conclave, Pope Francis does not have and never did have the intention of serving as the head of the Catholic Church. Rather he hid his intentions from electors with the end goal of using the authority of the papacy to undermine the Church and to make it the “handmaid” of the New World Order. “I believe instead that his acceptance of the papacy is invalidated, because he considers the papacy something other than what it is,” Viganò remarks. He continues: “I would like us to take seriously … the possibility that Bergoglio intended to obtain the election by means of fraud, and that he intended to abuse the authority of the Roman Pontiff in order to do the exact opposite of what Jesus Christ gave a mandate to Saint Peter.” The Archbishop also states that he disagrees with Bishop Athanasius Schneider’s view that “universal acceptance” of Francis as the pope makes him the pope. His Excellency points to the historical example of Clement VII in the 14th century to support his argument. While admitting the current situation is “humanly irremediable,” his goal in publishing the letter is to “get to the root of the question” and to find a common starting point that can lead to a “remedy [to] the disconcerting, scandalous presence of a pope who presents himself with ostentatious arrogance as inimicus Ecclesiæ, and who acts and speaks as such.””