Nelson's Fall 2023 Talk

[Chip]

Yeah. She has words of life and freedom within her. It's a beautiful thing to watch, now understanding that we have been starved for the true word of the Lord delivered by true messengers.
I consider myself a witness to what people like Katie are experiencing and sharing. It's incredible to hear her express so fluently the ineffable love of God and how the downloads of his word come.
It all makes the stale words spoken at our pulpits that much more difficult to endure.

She is preparing all people who love God for a fully interactive relationship with Jesus, the Holy Spirit, and Father. It's FREE and it's FUN! And your going to stomp on the enemy's head! Who wants in? I hope people on this forum who desire such a wonderful thing take up the opportunity that Jesus is extending through his friend Katie. Her talks are getting more amazing and marvelous, day to day.

Boy, let's just pray that we'll be lucky enough to witness a real life revival of a kingdom of priests who are blowing people's minds with God's words the way that this wonderful sister is.

She's walking YOU and I right into it. Her livestream today had a lot of timely encouragement. The little people are going to be the heroes in God's play.

[gradles21]

RMN is a prophet in my home. If he is evil in your home then that says more about your home then it does about RMN.

What about Deuteronomy 18:20-22? Rusty was wrong about the vaccines being safe and effective. The First Presidency sent that letter on Church letterhead with the name of the Lord at the top of the page and they did so in their office as prophets, seers, and revelators. They were clearly speaking in the name of the Lord.

In my home 4 of 5 of us got the vaccine. None of us got injured. RMN is 100% correct about a safe and effective vaccine for my home.

So because you or your family weren't immediately harmed by the vaccine it must be safe and effective? That's quite a leap of logic.

[gradles21]

Oh no… you fell for it.

Since you've determined that I am a dolt, then perhaps you could elucidate the matter.

RMN didn’t say those words, Jesus did.

I'm going to go out on a limb and say that Jesus didn't have the Mormon church on his mind when he said those words.

[cyclOps]

The talk touched me quite a bit. I really like what he had to say about addictions. They can come in many forms, but the Lord is displeased with them. It essentially means prioritizing the addiction over the worship of the Lord.

Im so glad that he also said food is an addiction. So many of my fat mormon family and friends point the finger at alcoholics and drug users as addicts.

I believe we all have some form of addiction if we honestly introspect. And it’s true, any addiction stands between us and God. We must turn to God, not addictions. We must depend on God, not upon anything less.

I was talking with my wife the other day about how anything that makes/helps us depend more upon God is good thing. We’re in the midst of a large trial in our family that has made us more dependent on the Lord. I wish the trial wasn’t necessary to humble us and make us depend on the Lord, but I’m grateful for the result.

[cyclOps]

How about his head being CGI'ed to his body! The sizes didn't even match!

Didn't that drive you crazy? Why CGI his head onto a suit? Did an actor wear the suit? Why not just sit up at home and wear your suit?

How many times does it take to say "think Celestial" to count as brain washing? Did a fifteen year write that talk?

Now we have another dumb catch phrase! "When you want to masturbate, think Celestial"!

It clearly was not CGI.

[Shawn Henry]

It clearly was not CGI.

Do you really think they rebuilt the conference center at his house where the talk was recorded.

[Reluctant Watchman]

From what I gather, Nelson quoted (selectively mind you) from 132. If he's gonna quote from that section, he needs to acknowledge everything BY said about polygamy before he shames families for not entering his covenant path and paying an incorrect tithe of a buck fifty.

[LateOutOfBed]

It clearly was not CGI.

Do you really think they rebuilt the conference center at his house where the talk was recorded.

I don't watch conference anymore... but from the clip above, I totally agree it looks CGI! You can see around the edges of his face where it meets the suit, there's slightly "off" on the lines.

[Shawn Henry]

I don't watch conference anymore... but from the clip above, I totally agree it looks CGI! You can see around the edges of his face where it meets the suit, there's slightly "off" on the lines.

Yeah, it's weird how cyclOps goes into blind defender mode, as if true things can't be pointed out unless they support the cause. I don't understand the lack of intellectually honesty there.

[Telavian]

From what I gather, Nelson quoted (selectively mind you) from 132. If he's gonna quote from that section, he needs to acknowledge everything BY said about polygamy before he shames families for not entering his covenant path and paying an incorrect tithe of a buck fifty.

That's not how things work anymore. Selective quotations is the name of the game.

[Arm Chair Quarterback]

I just watched RMN's talk. He dared to incorporate a little more truth than others did, by actually talking about the perils of unchasteness, but then he got around to looping the church into it all, by declaring its role to be vital and how you must pay your tithes and listen only to them. His talk had some nice elements in it, but it was another routine and formulaic effort to vitally associate the church with God's blessings, scaring-with-caring everyone back into the middle of the boat, where they can be managed with renewed control.

God is doing a lot of good things in the world and our church has nothing approaching a monopoly on any of it. What our church excels at is mind control. They endeavor to achieve this and they are maybe the most successful at it, but this is coercive and extortive, not of God, but of calculating men running a religious empire. I believe God is going to break the spell they have on people and free them for an actual relationship with Him, not a filtered, throttled version that the church's leaders have set themselves up to be the gatekeepers of. I believe the church leaders are operating under some delusion, themselves, as they deceive the members. It's a big, gooey mess.

Didn't god already break the spell? The god-sent covid vaccines anyone?

[Teancum1]

How about his head being CGI'ed to his body! The sizes didn't even match!

Didn't that drive you crazy? Why CGI his head onto a suit? Did an actor wear the suit? Why not just sit up at home and wear your suit?

How many times does it take to say "think Celestial" to count as brain washing? Did a fifteen year write that talk?

Now we have another dumb catch phrase! "When you want to masturbate, think Celestial"!

It clearly was not CGI.

The beady red eyes. Can’t unsee that.

[Arm Chair Quarterback]

yah, it's painful to watch this happen. My wife comes from a large family which are all grown with spouses, children. She recently went to visit them at a large family gathering and just sat as an observer as all of them extolled the virtues of RMN and the church . She said they were robotic....... entranced. She just listened and was greatly saddened to see that there was no depth left in their words. Something is changing. The distance of separation is growing quickly.

It sure is. As Isaiah 28 said would be the case, the bed is too short to stretch out on and the blanket is too narrow to wrap yourself in.

Do you know if your wife's relatives were all vaxxed? I am really thinking those injections caused a sea change within the church.

We aren't sure how many were vaxxed but we suspect that all of them are. Something is amiss.

I'm not so sure that anything has changed in your extended family. When YOU change, when your perspective on faith, belief, your view of truth---when that changes your view of people you used to agree with changes too. It may be that the only difference is the person doing the viewing is viewing things from an entirely different perspective---and that new view gives the impression that others have changed. They haven't. You. have. And that change in viewpoint completely alters how you view others.

[Reluctant Watchman]

I don't know if anyone mentioned this, but did you notice the audience applause at the end? Was he actually speaking to an audience or did they digitally add that toward the end? It sounded so fake.

[Chip]

I just watched RMN's talk. He dared to incorporate a little more truth than others did, by actually talking about the perils of unchasteness, but then he got around to looping the church into it all, by declaring its role to be vital and how you must pay your tithes and listen only to them. His talk had some nice elements in it, but it was another routine and formulaic effort to vitally associate the church with God's blessings, scaring-with-caring everyone back into the middle of the boat, where they can be managed with renewed control.

God is doing a lot of good things in the world and our church has nothing approaching a monopoly on any of it. What our church excels at is mind control. They endeavor to achieve this and they are maybe the most successful at it, but this is coercive and extortive, not of God, but of calculating men running a religious empire. I believe God is going to break the spell they have on people and free them for an actual relationship with Him, not a filtered, throttled version that the church's leaders have set themselves up to be the gatekeepers of. I believe the church leaders are operating under some delusion, themselves, as they deceive the members. It's a big, gooey mess.

Didn't god already break the spell? The god-sent covid vaccines anyone?

Only partially for most. Now, they are climbing back on board.

[Chip]

I just watched RMN's talk. He dared to incorporate a little more truth than others did, by actually talking about the perils of unchasteness, but then he got around to looping the church into it all, by declaring its role to be vital and how you must pay your tithes and listen only to them. His talk had some nice elements in it, but it was another routine and formulaic effort to vitally associate the church with God's blessings, scaring-with-caring everyone back into the middle of the boat, where they can be managed with renewed control.

God is doing a lot of good things in the world and our church has nothing approaching a monopoly on any of it. What our church excels at is mind control. They endeavor to achieve this and they are maybe the most successful at it, but this is coercive and extortive, not of God, but of calculating men running a religious empire. I believe God is going to break the spell they have on people and free them for an actual relationship with Him, not a filtered, throttled version that the church's leaders have set themselves up to be the gatekeepers of. I believe the church leaders are operating under some delusion, themselves, as they deceive the members. It's a big, gooey mess.

Didn't god already break the spell? The god-sent covid vaccines anyone?

Only partially for some. Now, they are climbing back on board.

[randyps]

What about Deuteronomy 18:20-22? Rusty was wrong about the vaccines being safe and effective. The First Presidency sent that letter on Church letterhead with the name of the Lord at the top of the page and they did so in their office as prophets, seers, and revelators. They were clearly speaking in the name of the Lord.

In my home 4 of 5 of us got the vaccine. None of us got injured. RMN is 100% correct about a safe and effective vaccine for my home.

And the rest of the world? What of them? Millions have been killed by the COVID-19 vaccines and millions more will be. I find this blasé approach to serious things to be troubling.

I find your assumptions and guesstimating quite amusing. Where is your proof of the millions? Twitter? LOL!

I showed you my first hand account proof of the vaccine 100% safe in my home for 4 of us.
I got more proof....60+ of my cousins,aunts,uncles,nieces and nephews that all got vaxd and none had any complications. Thats still a 100% track record for the vax to my personal knowledge.

The only vax injuries I hear of are on social media. I understand that the mrna vax was rushed to the masses without enough time for testing but the fact is that every vax in history does have side effects and many will be injured but if not for the protection of vaccines then billions would die of viruses.

I personally know 5 that died of the corona virus. All 5 were over weight and over the age of 44. You should focus your time on helping the millions of overweight people be healthier, not crying about a 100% safe and effective vaccine that saves lives just like the Prophet RMN has prophesied.

[Atrasado]

In my home 4 of 5 of us got the vaccine. None of us got injured. RMN is 100% correct about a safe and effective vaccine for my home.

And the rest of the world? What of them? Millions have been killed by the COVID-19 vaccines and millions more will be. I find this blasé approach to serious things to be troubling.

I find your assumptions and guesstimating quite amusing. Where is your proof of the millions? Twitter? LOL!

I showed you my first hand account proof of the vaccine 100% safe in my home for 4 of us.
I got more proof....60+ of my cousins,aunts,uncles,nieces and nephews that all got vaxd and none had any complications. Thats still a 100% track record for the vax to my personal knowledge.

The only vax injuries I hear of are on social media. I understand that the mrna vax was rushed to the masses without enough time for testing but the fact is that every vax in history does have side effects and many will be injured but if not for the protection of vaccines then billions would die of viruses.

I personally know 5 that died of the corona virus. All 5 were over weight and over the age of 44. You should focus your time on helping the millions of overweight people be healthier, not crying about a 100% safe and effective vaccine that saves lives just like the Prophet RMN has prophesied.

Twitter? You're a comedian, and a poor one at that.

There is an unreal amount of evidence of the harmful effects of the vaccines, but you are blind and deaf to it or you would already know about it. Citing it to you is a waste of time because you will only believe what you want to believe and you apparently don't understand statistics or science. I wish I could warn you of what will shortly be here, but you cannot hear the truth.

Sadly, your delusions will not keep you warm much longer, but it's not too late to repent. I guarantee you that that old man who deceitfully claims to be a prophet will not warn you of what is coming. The time is getting very short.

[randyps]

And the rest of the world? What of them? Millions have been killed by the COVID-19 vaccines and millions more will be. I find this blasé approach to serious things to be troubling.

I find your assumptions and guesstimating quite amusing. Where is your proof of the millions? Twitter? LOL!

I showed you my first hand account proof of the vaccine 100% safe in my home for 4 of us.
I got more proof....60+ of my cousins,aunts,uncles,nieces and nephews that all got vaxd and none had any complications. Thats still a 100% track record for the vax to my personal knowledge.

The only vax injuries I hear of are on social media. I understand that the mrna vax was rushed to the masses without enough time for testing but the fact is that every vax in history does have side effects and many will be injured but if not for the protection of vaccines then billions would die of viruses.

I personally know 5 that died of the corona virus. All 5 were over weight and over the age of 44. You should focus your time on helping the millions of overweight people be healthier, not crying about a 100% safe and effective vaccine that saves lives just like the Prophet RMN has prophesied.

Twitter? You're a comedian, and a poor one at that.

There is an unreal amount of evidence of the harmful effects of the vaccines, but you are blind and deaf to it or you would already know about it. Citing it to you is a waste of time because you will only believe what you want to believe and you apparently don't understand statistics or science. I wish I could warn you of what will shortly be here, but you cannot hear the truth.

Sadly, your delusions will not keep you warm much longer, but it's not too late to repent. I guarantee you that that old man who deceitfully claims to be a prophet will not warn you of what is coming. The time is getting very short.

I never got vaxd because the prophet encouraged us. Me and my whole family was inactive in 2020 so we had no idea what church was saying.
We got vaxd because the schools made my kids and my work made me. My stay at home ex-wife was the only one that didnt get vaxd.

The vax hurt no one that I know of! ever! thats 100% safe in my world. What about you in your conspiracy world?
I know many that are currently on diabetes and high blood pressure meds because of bad diet and un healthy lifestyle, thats a 1,000 times bigger problem then some vax. Maybe you need to change your outlook on life and be happy instead of miserable, fearful and a doomsdayer.

[Teancum1]

I find your assumptions and guesstimating quite amusing. Where is your proof of the millions? Twitter? LOL!

I showed you my first hand account proof of the vaccine 100% safe in my home for 4 of us.
I got more proof....60+ of my cousins,aunts,uncles,nieces and nephews that all got vaxd and none had any complications. Thats still a 100% track record for the vax to my personal knowledge.

The only vax injuries I hear of are on social media. I understand that the mrna vax was rushed to the masses without enough time for testing but the fact is that every vax in history does have side effects and many will be injured but if not for the protection of vaccines then billions would die of viruses.

I personally know 5 that died of the corona virus. All 5 were over weight and over the age of 44. You should focus your time on helping the millions of overweight people be healthier, not crying about a 100% safe and effective vaccine that saves lives just like the Prophet RMN has prophesied.

Twitter? You're a comedian, and a poor one at that.

There is an unreal amount of evidence of the harmful effects of the vaccines, but you are blind and deaf to it or you would already know about it. Citing it to you is a waste of time because you will only believe what you want to believe and you apparently don't understand statistics or science. I wish I could warn you of what will shortly be here, but you cannot hear the truth.

Sadly, your delusions will not keep you warm much longer, but it's not too late to repent. I guarantee you that that old man who deceitfully claims to be a prophet will not warn you of what is coming. The time is getting very short.

I never got vaxd because the prophet encouraged us. Me and my whole family was inactive in 2020 so we had no idea what church was saying.
We got vaxd because the schools made my kids and my work made me. My stay at home ex-wife was the only one that didnt get vaxd.

The vax hurt no one that I know of! ever! thats 100% safe in my world. What about you in your conspiracy world?
I know many that are currently on diabetes and high blood pressure meds because of bad diet and un healthy lifestyle, thats a 1,000 times bigger problem then some vax. Maybe you need to change your outlook on life and be happy instead of miserable, fearful and a doomsdayer.

I have a helicopter pilot friend in the military that has testified before congress of his vax injuries. He has been unable to fly since December 2021. One of the fittest and most bad a$$ athletes I’ve met and now he cannot carry a box 200 yards due to his heart rate going over 170 beats/min.

Your uncaring and dismissive attitude toward people who have died as a result of this is so unChristian but what do I know.

Your unwillingness to learn of the many dangers behind this mRNA technology or believe scientists sounding the alarm hopefully not come back to haunt you.

[Fred]

In my home 4 of 5 of us got the vaccine. None of us got injured. RMN is 100% correct about a safe and effective vaccine for my home.

And the rest of the world? What of them? Millions have been killed by the COVID-19 vaccines and millions more will be. I find this blasé approach to serious things to be troubling.

I find your assumptions and guesstimating quite amusing. Where is your proof of the millions? Twitter? LOL!

I showed you my first hand account proof of the vaccine 100% safe in my home for 4 of us.
I got more proof....60+ of my cousins,aunts,uncles,nieces and nephews that all got vaxd and none had any complications. Thats still a 100% track record for the vax to my personal knowledge.

The only vax injuries I hear of are on social media. I understand that the mrna vax was rushed to the masses without enough time for testing but the fact is that every vax in history does have side effects and many will be injured but if not for the protection of vaccines then billions would die of viruses.

I personally know 5 that died of the corona virus. All 5 were over weight and over the age of 44. You should focus your time on helping the millions of overweight people be healthier, not crying about a 100% safe and effective vaccine that saves lives just like the Prophet RMN has prophesied.

You don't even have proof that you got anything besides a placebo. Placebos can be safe and effective at being fake.

[randyps]

Twitter? You're a comedian, and a poor one at that.

There is an unreal amount of evidence of the harmful effects of the vaccines, but you are blind and deaf to it or you would already know about it. Citing it to you is a waste of time because you will only believe what you want to believe and you apparently don't understand statistics or science. I wish I could warn you of what will shortly be here, but you cannot hear the truth.

Sadly, your delusions will not keep you warm much longer, but it's not too late to repent. I guarantee you that that old man who deceitfully claims to be a prophet will not warn you of what is coming. The time is getting very short.

I never got vaxd because the prophet encouraged us. Me and my whole family was inactive in 2020 so we had no idea what church was saying.
We got vaxd because the schools made my kids and my work made me. My stay at home ex-wife was the only one that didnt get vaxd.

The vax hurt no one that I know of! ever! thats 100% safe in my world. What about you in your conspiracy world?
I know many that are currently on diabetes and high blood pressure meds because of bad diet and un healthy lifestyle, thats a 1,000 times bigger problem then some vax. Maybe you need to change your outlook on life and be happy instead of miserable, fearful and a doomsdayer.

I have a helicopter pilot friend in the military that has testified before congress of his vax injuries. He has been unable to fly since December 2021. One of the fittest and most bad a$$ athletes I’ve met and now he cannot carry a box 200 yards due to his heart rate going over 170 beats/min.

Your uncaring and dismissive attitude toward people who have died as a result of this is so unChristian but what do I know.

Your unwillingness to learn of the many dangers behind this mRNA technology or believe scientists sounding the alarm hopefully not come back to haunt you.

Your ONE friend? is that all you personally know of? i know of zero injured so there is no dismissive attitude I have because I know of no one injured/dead personally.

My conversation was with Altrasaso who claims millions are injured and dead and millions more to come. I laugh at his "Millions" because it is not true, he is a conspiracy theorists who only listens to fake news and exagerated reports from anti-government journalists.

[randyps]

And the rest of the world? What of them? Millions have been killed by the COVID-19 vaccines and millions more will be. I find this blasé approach to serious things to be troubling.

I find your assumptions and guesstimating quite amusing. Where is your proof of the millions? Twitter? LOL!

I showed you my first hand account proof of the vaccine 100% safe in my home for 4 of us.
I got more proof....60+ of my cousins,aunts,uncles,nieces and nephews that all got vaxd and none had any complications. Thats still a 100% track record for the vax to my personal knowledge.

The only vax injuries I hear of are on social media. I understand that the mrna vax was rushed to the masses without enough time for testing but the fact is that every vax in history does have side effects and many will be injured but if not for the protection of vaccines then billions would die of viruses.

I personally know 5 that died of the corona virus. All 5 were over weight and over the age of 44. You should focus your time on helping the millions of overweight people be healthier, not crying about a 100% safe and effective vaccine that saves lives just like the Prophet RMN has prophesied.

You don't even have proof that you got anything besides a placebo. Placebos can be safe and effective at being fake.

same can be said of the millions that Altrasado claimed died of the vax, no proof that they got the actuall vax or water shot into their veins but their negative attitudes aka anti-placebo caused them to die.

[Fred]

I find your assumptions and guesstimating quite amusing. Where is your proof of the millions? Twitter? LOL!

I showed you my first hand account proof of the vaccine 100% safe in my home for 4 of us.
I got more proof....60+ of my cousins,aunts,uncles,nieces and nephews that all got vaxd and none had any complications. Thats still a 100% track record for the vax to my personal knowledge.

The only vax injuries I hear of are on social media. I understand that the mrna vax was rushed to the masses without enough time for testing but the fact is that every vax in history does have side effects and many will be injured but if not for the protection of vaccines then billions would die of viruses.

I personally know 5 that died of the corona virus. All 5 were over weight and over the age of 44. You should focus your time on helping the millions of overweight people be healthier, not crying about a 100% safe and effective vaccine that saves lives just like the Prophet RMN has prophesied.

You don't even have proof that you got anything besides a placebo. Placebos can be safe and effective at being fake.

same can be said of the millions that Altrasado claimed died of the vax, no proof that they got the actuall vax or water shot into their veins but their negative attitudes aka anti-placebo caused them to die.

You could have been a comedian. It's ok to believe everything you are told as long as no one ever lies to you. Good luck with that.

[randyps]

You don't even have proof that you got anything besides a placebo. Placebos can be safe and effective at being fake.

same can be said of the millions that Altrasado claimed died of the vax, no proof that they got the actuall vax or water shot into their veins but their negative attitudes aka anti-placebo caused them to die.

You could have been a comedian. It's ok to believe everything you are told as long as no one ever lies to you. Good luck with that.

This whole forum is a bunch of comedians, Im just doing my best to fit in and stop the crybabys from crying.