Nelson's Fall 2023 Talk

[Bjǫrnúlfr]

That's the thing. They do say good things. Just enough good things to keep people sedated. But, when you dig deeper on some of the things they say they are full of lies and hypocrisy.

I find it sad that people are trying so hard to find something to criticize instead of taking a really good message and applying it in their lives to help them draw closer to Christ. Fault finding never got anyone anywhere.

[Shawn Henry]

For real? It looked like CGI?!!! LOL!!

How’s about “think celestial” when you’re hiding those billions in shell companies Rusty?

Lol.

Think Celestial about those 3 conference stories that were proven to be lies, too. What were they? The woman in the hat, the you didn't read that, and the emergency airplane landing. I think, anyway. That was a good Mormonism Live episode.

[Atrasado]

That's the thing. They do say good things. Just enough good things to keep people sedated. But, when you dig deeper on some of the things they say they are full of lies and hypocrisy.

I find it sad that people are trying so hard to find something to criticize instead of taking a really good message and applying it in their lives to help them draw closer to Christ. Fault finding never got anyone anywhere.

I know fault-finding isn't good. But maybe I have some data that you don't or won't believe. Maybe if you knew or could believe that data then Nelson's hypocrisy would make you sick, too. In either case, feel free to think what you'd like to think. There's too much control in the world for me to want to control you.

[Silver Pie]

How about his head being CGI'ed to his body! The sizes didn't even match!

Didn't that drive you crazy? Why CGI his head onto a suit? Did an actor wear the suit? Why not just sit up at home and wear your suit?

Dude! I want to see a screenshot of that.

[Reluctant Watchman]

Somebody online posted this quote from one of Nelson’s talk. While I’d like to say I’m not surprised, I honestly think this man is hellbent on dividing families and hurting relationships:

“The apostle Paul prophesied that in the latter times, some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits and doctrines of devils. There is no end to the adversary’s deceptions. Please be prepared. Never take counsel from those who do not believe.”

Did this son of a gun actually say this?

[randyps]

I felt the spirit and am glad that God cares enough about me to have a true prophet on earth lead me.

[Blue Marble]

This went up within an hour of Nelson’s talk.

[randyps]

Somebody online posted this quote from one of Nelson’s talk. While I’d like to say I’m not surprised, I honestly think this man is hellbent on dividing families and hurting relationships:

“The apostle Paul prophesied that in the latter times, some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits and doctrines of devils. There is no end to the adversary’s deceptions. Please be prepared. Never take counsel from those who do not believe.”

Did this son of a gun actually say this?

RMN is dead on. This exact scenario is playing out in my home.

My ex-wife left LDS and is into tarot cards, astrology, law of attraction type stuff. Literally seducing spirits guidiing her life. She even told me that one of her spirit guides told her that I was having an affair with a girl named Sally. I lol'd so loud because i can confirm it was 100% not true and she is being manipulated by satan. She has been teaching my teen daughters these same beliefs as well as anti-christian stuff. I have to tell my daughters to not believe what she says about Jesus and Christianity.

[Reluctant Watchman]

Somebody online posted this quote from one of Nelson’s talk. While I’d like to say I’m not surprised, I honestly think this man is hellbent on dividing families and hurting relationships:

“The apostle Paul prophesied that in the latter times, some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits and doctrines of devils. There is no end to the adversary’s deceptions. Please be prepared. Never take counsel from those who do not believe.”

Did this son of a gun actually say this?

RMN is dead on. This exact scenario is playing out in my home.

My ex-wife left LDS and is into tarot cards, astrology, law of attraction type stuff. Literally seducing spirits guidiing her life. She even told me that one of her spirit guides told her that I was having an affair with a girl named Sally. I lol'd so loud because i can confirm it was 100% not true and she is being manipulated by satan. She has been teaching my teen daughters these same beliefs as well as anti-christian stuff. I have to tell my daughters to not believe what she says about Jesus and Christianity.

RMN is evil. Literally evil. He is dividing families. Just because your ex left for various reasons doesn’t mean everyone who leaves is a servant of satan. Nelson preaches philosophies that directly contradict Christ’s teachings.

[TwochurchesOnly]

This went up within an hour of Nelson’s talk.

SMH
Money money money

[Subcomandante]

The talk touched me quite a bit. I really like what he had to say about addictions. They can come in many forms, but the Lord is displeased with them. It essentially means prioritizing the addiction over the worship of the Lord.

Those 20 temples that he mentioned in Conference will be built. They won't be built in six months; the earliest I have ever heard of a temple built after announcement was about a year and that was for Oaxaca.

The Salt Lake Temple was 40 years in construction.

More recently the Guayaquil temple was 13 years and the Urdaneta temple was 10 plus years.

[randyps]

Somebody online posted this quote from one of Nelson’s talk. While I’d like to say I’m not surprised, I honestly think this man is hellbent on dividing families and hurting relationships:

“The apostle Paul prophesied that in the latter times, some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits and doctrines of devils. There is no end to the adversary’s deceptions. Please be prepared. Never take counsel from those who do not believe.”

Did this son of a gun actually say this?

RMN is dead on. This exact scenario is playing out in my home.

My ex-wife left LDS and is into tarot cards, astrology, law of attraction type stuff. Literally seducing spirits guidiing her life. She even told me that one of her spirit guides told her that I was having an affair with a girl named Sally. I lol'd so loud because i can confirm it was 100% not true and she is being manipulated by satan. She has been teaching my teen daughters these same beliefs as well as anti-christian stuff. I have to tell my daughters to not believe what she says about Jesus and Christianity.

RMN is evil. Literally evil. He is dividing families. Just because your ex left for various reasons doesn’t mean everyone who leaves is a servant of satan. Nelson preaches philosophies that directly contradict Christ’s teachings.

RMN is a prophet in my home. If he is evil in your home then that says more about your home then it does about RMN.

[randyps]

The talk touched me quite a bit. I really like what he had to say about addictions. They can come in many forms, but the Lord is displeased with them. It essentially means prioritizing the addiction over the worship of the Lord.

Im so glad that he also said food is an addiction. So many of my fat mormon family and friends point the finger at alcoholics and drug users as addicts.

[Reluctant Watchman]

RMN is dead on. This exact scenario is playing out in my home.

My ex-wife left LDS and is into tarot cards, astrology, law of attraction type stuff. Literally seducing spirits guidiing her life. She even told me that one of her spirit guides told her that I was having an affair with a girl named Sally. I lol'd so loud because i can confirm it was 100% not true and she is being manipulated by satan. She has been teaching my teen daughters these same beliefs as well as anti-christian stuff. I have to tell my daughters to not believe what she says about Jesus and Christianity.

RMN is evil. Literally evil. He is dividing families. Just because your ex left for various reasons doesn’t mean everyone who leaves is a servant of satan. Nelson preaches philosophies that directly contradict Christ’s teachings.

RMN is a prophet in my home. If he is evil in your home then that says more about your home then it does about RMN.

Church culture is so screwed up. I’m honestly… man, I’m not a cussing type of person, but this church has really left me with few words that really express how I’m feeling right now.

[logicalheart]

“The apostle Paul prophesied that in the latter times, some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits and doctrines of devils. There is no end to the adversary’s deceptions. Please be prepared. Never take counsel from those who do not believe.”

Did this son of a gun actually say this?
[/quote]

If you go to the source of information and listen to the talk, you can skip questions like this, and come up with better ones. Yes he did say what you quoted, within the context of moral decisions. So it confirms that for moral counsel, we should not listen to the United Nations, nor most government officials, doctors, psychologists, psychiatrists, school teachers, legislatures, judges, etc, since most of them promote transgenderism, infanticide, homosexuality, immodesty, gambling, and breaking The Word of Wisdom. But we could also make a case that many church leaders may not be believers since they vote for people who promote those same sins, and also financially sponsor those sins through investments in pharmaceutical companies and donations to the NAACP., both of which directly fund infanticide and sexual immorality.

There were a lot of good teachings in the talk, but of course, if we actually apply them then it might cause discipline from the church. I was glad to hear him teach against physical intimacy outside of a married man and woman relationship. I rarely hear that anymore.

[Blue Marble]

The talk touched me quite a bit. I really like what he had to say about addictions. They can come in many forms, but the Lord is displeased with them. It essentially means prioritizing the addiction over the worship of the Lord.

Im so glad that he also said food is an addiction. So many of my fat mormon family and friends point the finger at alcoholics and drug users as addicts.

No fatties in the Celestial Kingdom.

[randyps]

RMN is evil. Literally evil. He is dividing families. Just because your ex left for various reasons doesn’t mean everyone who leaves is a servant of satan. Nelson preaches philosophies that directly contradict Christ’s teachings.

RMN is a prophet in my home. If he is evil in your home then that says more about your home then it does about RMN.

Church culture is so screwed up. I’m honestly… man, I’m not a cussing type of person, but this church has really left me with few words that really express how I’m feeling right now.

You are mad at people. You are mad at the church. One thing that helped me was to move ward boundaries, fresh new faces, screw all the fake members in my old ward. Focus on God, this is still his church.

[Reluctant Watchman]

RMN is a prophet in my home. If he is evil in your home then that says more about your home then it does about RMN.

Church culture is so screwed up. I’m honestly… man, I’m not a cussing type of person, but this church has really left me with few words that really express how I’m feeling right now.

You are mad at people. You are mad at the church. One thing that helped me was to move ward boundaries, fresh new faces, screw all the fake members in my old ward. Focus on God, this is still his church.

I am very upset at a man who is so divisive. My family reads this trash and they further distance themselves from us. His quote is the very definition of a Religious Bigot. I think the church is spiritually and physically abusing my friends and family. Why wouldn’t I be angry and/or upset?

God does not condone bigotry.

[Blue Marble]

Church culture is so screwed up. I’m honestly… man, I’m not a cussing type of person, but this church has really left me with few words that really express how I’m feeling right now.

You are mad at people. You are mad at the church. One thing that helped me was to move ward boundaries, fresh new faces, screw all the fake members in my old ward. Focus on God, this is still his church.

I am very upset at a man who is so divisive. My family reads this trash and they further distance themselves from us. His quote is the very definition of a Religious Bigot. I think the church is spiritually and physically abusing my friends and family. Why wouldn’t I be angry and/or upset?

God does not condone bigotry.

Did you see the rest of the quote? What a bigot!

“Suppose ye that I am come to give peace on earth? I tell you, Nay; but rather division: For from henceforth there shall be five in one house divided, three against two, and two against three. The father shall be divided against the son, and the son against the father; the mother against the daughter, and the daughter against the mother; the mother in law against her daughter in law, and the daughter in law against her mother in law.”

[Reluctant Watchman]

You are mad at people. You are mad at the church. One thing that helped me was to move ward boundaries, fresh new faces, screw all the fake members in my old ward. Focus on God, this is still his church.

I am very upset at a man who is so divisive. My family reads this trash and they further distance themselves from us. His quote is the very definition of a Religious Bigot. I think the church is spiritually and physically abusing my friends and family. Why wouldn’t I be angry and/or upset?

God does not condone bigotry.

Did you see the rest of the quote? What a bigot!

“Suppose ye that I am come to give peace on earth? I tell you, Nay; but rather division: For from henceforth there shall be five in one house divided, three against two, and two against three. The father shall be divided against the son, and the son against the father; the mother against the daughter, and the daughter against the mother; the mother in law against her daughter in law, and the daughter in law against her mother in law.”

So you think Nelson is on the Lord’s errand for promoting divisiveness?

[Blue Marble]

I am very upset at a man who is so divisive. My family reads this trash and they further distance themselves from us. His quote is the very definition of a Religious Bigot. I think the church is spiritually and physically abusing my friends and family. Why wouldn’t I be angry and/or upset?

God does not condone bigotry.

Did you see the rest of the quote? What a bigot!

“Suppose ye that I am come to give peace on earth? I tell you, Nay; but rather division: For from henceforth there shall be five in one house divided, three against two, and two against three. The father shall be divided against the son, and the son against the father; the mother against the daughter, and the daughter against the mother; the mother in law against her daughter in law, and the daughter in law against her mother in law.”

So you think Nelson is on the Lord’s errand for promoting divisiveness?

I think your strong opposition to “dividing families” is anti-christian.

[Reluctant Watchman]

Did you see the rest of the quote? What a bigot!

“Suppose ye that I am come to give peace on earth? I tell you, Nay; but rather division: For from henceforth there shall be five in one house divided, three against two, and two against three. The father shall be divided against the son, and the son against the father; the mother against the daughter, and the daughter against the mother; the mother in law against her daughter in law, and the daughter in law against her mother in law.”

So you think Nelson is on the Lord’s errand for promoting divisiveness?

I think your strong opposition to “dividing families” is anti-christian.

What are you talking about? Yes, families will become divided in the last days, but what this imposter is saying just sucks. I get it, a divide is coming, I should just accept that he is peddling falsehoods. He is claiming that those who leave are on the wrong side of truth. He is claiming that to leave the church is to follow Satan.

The church sucks right now. My kids have such tender hearts and this man is stepping on them by turning our family members against us.

I’m out for the night. This stuff just wears on you.

[Atrasado]

RMN is dead on. This exact scenario is playing out in my home.

My ex-wife left LDS and is into tarot cards, astrology, law of attraction type stuff. Literally seducing spirits guidiing her life. She even told me that one of her spirit guides told her that I was having an affair with a girl named Sally. I lol'd so loud because i can confirm it was 100% not true and she is being manipulated by satan. She has been teaching my teen daughters these same beliefs as well as anti-christian stuff. I have to tell my daughters to not believe what she says about Jesus and Christianity.

RMN is evil. Literally evil. He is dividing families. Just because your ex left for various reasons doesn’t mean everyone who leaves is a servant of satan. Nelson preaches philosophies that directly contradict Christ’s teachings.

RMN is a prophet in my home. If he is evil in your home then that says more about your home then it does about RMN.

What about Deuteronomy 18:20-22? Rusty was wrong about the vaccines being safe and effective. The First Presidency sent that letter on Church letterhead with the name of the Lord at the top of the page and they did so in their office as prophets, seers, and revelators. They were clearly speaking in the name of the Lord.

Well, Deuteronomy 18:20-22 says,

20 But the prophet, which shall presume to speak a word in my name, which I have not commanded him to speak, or that shall speak in the name of other gods, even that prophet shall die.
21 And if thou say in thine heart, How shall we know the word which the Lord hath not spoken?
22 When a prophet speaketh in the name of the Lord, if the thing follow not, nor come to pass, that is the thing which the Lord hath not spoken, but the prophet hath spoken it presumptuously: thou shalt not be afraid of him.

So, what Rusty & co. spoke in the name of the Lord didn't happen. In fact, the opposite did because the vaccines aren't safe at all, and they make it more likely that a person gets COVID-19.

I don't see any get out of jail free cards for we thought we needed to do something and we were just guessing. Lying or just mistaken, this seems like a very serious matter to the Lord. The last line seems like a command that we not follow or accept prophets who speak presumptuously. If you disagree, then give us a well thought out explanation on why we don't need to live by those particular words of God, or why those words don't mean what they clearly say.

[Blue Marble]

So you think Nelson is on the Lord’s errand for promoting divisiveness?

I think your strong opposition to “dividing families” is anti-christian.

He is claiming that those who leave are on the wrong side of truth. He is claiming that to leave the church is to follow Satan.

Of course he said that, it’s what he believes. Very silly for you to get so tied up in knots over this.

[randyps]

RMN is evil. Literally evil. He is dividing families. Just because your ex left for various reasons doesn’t mean everyone who leaves is a servant of satan. Nelson preaches philosophies that directly contradict Christ’s teachings.

RMN is a prophet in my home. If he is evil in your home then that says more about your home then it does about RMN.

What about Deuteronomy 18:20-22? Rusty was wrong about the vaccines being safe and effective. The First Presidency sent that letter on Church letterhead with the name of the Lord at the top of the page and they did so in their office as prophets, seers, and revelators. They were clearly speaking in the name of the Lord.

In my home 4 of 5 of us got the vaccine. None of us got injured. RMN is 100% correct about a safe and effective vaccine for my home.