LDS Freedom Forum

Bonhoeffer wrote: ↑October 2nd, 2023, 9:10 pm

randyps wrote: ↑October 2nd, 2023, 5:53 pm

Teancum1 wrote: ↑October 2nd, 2023, 5:27 pm

I have a helicopter pilot friend in the military that has testified before congress of his vax injuries. He has been unable to fly since December 2021. One of the fittest and most bad a$$ athletes I’ve met and now he cannot carry a box 200 yards due to his heart rate going over 170 beats/min.

Your uncaring and dismissive attitude toward people who have died as a result of this is so unChristian but what do I know.

Your unwillingness to learn of the many dangers behind this mRNA technology or believe scientists sounding the alarm hopefully not come back to haunt you.

Your ONE friend? is that all you personally know of? i know of zero injured so there is no dismissive attitude I have because I know of no one injured/dead personally.

My conversation was with Altrasaso who claims millions are injured and dead and millions more to come. I laugh at his "Millions" because it is not true, he is a conspiracy theorists who only listens to fake news and exagerated reports from anti-government journalists.

My sister had a miscarriage and then her next pregnancy resulted in a placenta that didn’t work, effectively starving the baby resulting in its death. My SIL had 2 miscarriages. My son’s 17 yo friend had a heart attack in his sleep. That young man was a state ranked baseball player. 3 of my friends who were in menopause for a number of yrs started getting periods again. 1 friend bled for 2 mos straight. A YW in our ward had to hold off on going on a mission bc she developed “heart issues” out of the blue. I could go on.
Count yourself extremely fortunate you don’t have first hand knowledge of people who’ve either died or experienced life altering negative side effects from these bioweapons. Don’t be so pious as to completely dismiss those that have. Some of us have been trying to sound the alarm and hold those pushing the vax to account to save people like you who are still proudly ignorant.

I am not pro vax, im just stating that some comedians in here want to call RMN a false prophet by saying the vax was a "God-send, safe and effective"
Well, in my community the vax was exactly as RMN describes "safe and effective" and I have no problem recognizing and sustaining him as a prophet, seer and revelator.

I have a ton of (non-mormon) friends that are firemen, police, and nurses and they all recognized the importance of the vaccine in ending the pandemic and saving millions of lives in America.

Chip wrote: ↑October 2nd, 2023, 8:22 pm

larsenb wrote: ↑October 2nd, 2023, 8:08 pm

Chip wrote: ↑October 2nd, 2023, 2:59 am Listen here for 2 minutes. Katie NAILS what we are talking about in this thread. GOOD NEWS!!!!!!!!

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=nbASLlRX16M&t=3504

A phenomenal woman, any way you look at it.

She's relaying the GOOD NEWS that we all need to hear.

She's an amazing woman!

Chip wrote: ↑October 2nd, 2023, 8:22 pm

larsenb wrote: ↑October 2nd, 2023, 8:08 pm

Chip wrote: ↑October 2nd, 2023, 2:59 am Listen here for 2 minutes. Katie NAILS what we are talking about in this thread. GOOD NEWS!!!!!!!!

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=nbASLlRX16M&t=3504

A phenomenal woman, any way you look at it.

She's relaying the GOOD NEWS that we all need to hear.

And she comes across as extremely joyful in her presentation.

Severus wrote: ↑October 2nd, 2023, 9:31 pm As I sat listening to RMN I was deeply impressed with the spiritual strength, authority and priesthood power that came with his talk. There was definately something that carried more weight when he spoke than any speaker before him.

And the message was simple but very good and timely. Romans 8:6-8 basically says the same thing. I, for one, plan to discipline myself to follow this teaching. I liked how he taught that we can put seemingly innocent things before Christ without thinking until they become an obsession or even an addiction that start replacing religion.
Good food for thought.

I know he gave a talk one time where he brought up the idea that too many of us can be "myopic", and I think this "think celestial" is sort of along the same lines. He wants to elevate and elongate our vision to something beyond this world instead of always looking down and getting stopped by the frustrations inherent with life on this earth.

#ThinkCelestial is a rebranding of centuries old truths about the importance of creating reality in your mind. Any idea or thought must begin in the mind. In essence: thoughts > actions > habits > character > destiny. As the Proverbs beautifully states, “as a man thinketh in his heart, so is he.” I could provide a list as long as my arm of intellectuals, spiritualist, and the like who have taught the principle of spiritual creation in the mind.

The parts that I think are completely lost on most members is the twisting of doctrine when compared to scripture. This was a masterful work of the philosophies of men, mingled w/ scripture.

Hiker wrote: ↑October 2nd, 2023, 9:34 pm

Chip wrote: ↑October 2nd, 2023, 8:22 pm

larsenb wrote: ↑October 2nd, 2023, 8:08 pm

A phenomenal woman, any way you look at it.

She's relaying the GOOD NEWS that we all need to hear.

She's an amazing woman!

She would fit in well in here with the rest of the comedians and crybabys.

randyps wrote: ↑October 2nd, 2023, 9:34 pm

Bonhoeffer wrote: ↑October 2nd, 2023, 9:10 pm

randyps wrote: ↑October 2nd, 2023, 5:53 pm

Your ONE friend? is that all you personally know of? i know of zero injured so there is no dismissive attitude I have because I know of no one injured/dead personally.

My conversation was with Altrasaso who claims millions are injured and dead and millions more to come. I laugh at his "Millions" because it is not true, he is a conspiracy theorists who only listens to fake news and exagerated reports from anti-government journalists.

My sister had a miscarriage and then her next pregnancy resulted in a placenta that didn’t work, effectively starving the baby resulting in its death. My SIL had 2 miscarriages. My son’s 17 yo friend had a heart attack in his sleep. That young man was a state ranked baseball player. 3 of my friends who were in menopause for a number of yrs started getting periods again. 1 friend bled for 2 mos straight. A YW in our ward had to hold off on going on a mission bc she developed “heart issues” out of the blue. I could go on.
Count yourself extremely fortunate you don’t have first hand knowledge of people who’ve either died or experienced life altering negative side effects from these bioweapons. Don’t be so pious as to completely dismiss those that have. Some of us have been trying to sound the alarm and hold those pushing the vax to account to save people like you who are still proudly ignorant.

I am not pro vax, im just stating that some comedians in here want to call RMN a false prophet by saying the vax was a "God-send, safe and effective"
Well, in my community the vax was exactly as RMN describes "safe and effective" and I have no problem recognizing and sustaining him as a prophet, seer and revelator.

I have a ton of (non-mormon) friends that are firemen, police, and nurses and they all recognized the importance of the vaccine in ending the pandemic and saving millions of lives in America.

While you may think that’s true I’d bet there are many in your community who are currently suffering from adverse side-effects that you are unaware of. Most do not talk about it and sadly most Drs don’t educate their patients on vaccine injuries. RMN quoting the pro-vax rhetoric, even holding church wide fasts for a vaccine, opened many of our eyes to examining whether he really is who he says he is, a PSR. He had insider knowledge of a vax being made by a Pfizer exec who’s also a 70 well before the release of the jabs. He’s also been aligning with the UN agenda, even sending Bednar to a conference where they pledged their allegiance to “climate healing.” While these shocking revelations may mean nothing to you, for many on this forum it effectively broke our shelf and set us down a long road of critical thinking and searching out many truths that have been hidden. Good luck to you in your journey, wherever it leads you but for many of us the journey is leading us to a place where we are concerned about the direction of this church & its leaders.

Bonhoeffer wrote: ↑October 2nd, 2023, 9:55 pm

randyps wrote: ↑October 2nd, 2023, 9:34 pm

Bonhoeffer wrote: ↑October 2nd, 2023, 9:10 pm

My sister had a miscarriage and then her next pregnancy resulted in a placenta that didn’t work, effectively starving the baby resulting in its death. My SIL had 2 miscarriages. My son’s 17 yo friend had a heart attack in his sleep. That young man was a state ranked baseball player. 3 of my friends who were in menopause for a number of yrs started getting periods again. 1 friend bled for 2 mos straight. A YW in our ward had to hold off on going on a mission bc she developed “heart issues” out of the blue. I could go on.
Count yourself extremely fortunate you don’t have first hand knowledge of people who’ve either died or experienced life altering negative side effects from these bioweapons. Don’t be so pious as to completely dismiss those that have. Some of us have been trying to sound the alarm and hold those pushing the vax to account to save people like you who are still proudly ignorant.

I am not pro vax, im just stating that some comedians in here want to call RMN a false prophet by saying the vax was a "God-send, safe and effective"
Well, in my community the vax was exactly as RMN describes "safe and effective" and I have no problem recognizing and sustaining him as a prophet, seer and revelator.

I have a ton of (non-mormon) friends that are firemen, police, and nurses and they all recognized the importance of the vaccine in ending the pandemic and saving millions of lives in America.

While you may think that’s true I’d bet there are many in your community who are currently suffering from adverse side-effects that you are unaware of. Most do not talk about it and sadly most Drs don’t educate their patients on vaccine injuries. RMN quoting the pro-vax rhetoric, even holding church wide fasts for a vaccine, opened many of our eyes to examining whether he really is who he says he is, a PSR. He had insider knowledge of a vax being made by a Pfizer exec who’s also a 70 well before the release of the jabs. He’s also been aligning with the UN agenda, even sending Bednar to a conference where they pledged their allegiance to “climate healing.” While these shocking revelations may mean nothing to you, for many on this forum it effectively broke our shelf and set us down a long road of critical thinking and searching out many truths that have been hidden. Good luck to you in your journey, wherever it leads you but for many of us the journey is leading us to a place where we are concerned about the direction of this church & its leaders.

This is my perspective after being inactive for 7 yrs due to the same issues you speak of.
1. Stop thinking about the church, its not my church and its not my problems, Its Gods church and its Gods problem.
2. I didnt call RMN or the 70s to their positions, God did. Do I not trust God?
3. God is only interested in my faith and obedience. Put my self in Nephis position holding a sword to Labans head, do I act in logic or faith?

randyps wrote: ↑October 2nd, 2023, 9:48 pm

Hiker wrote: ↑October 2nd, 2023, 9:34 pm

Chip wrote: ↑October 2nd, 2023, 8:22 pm


She's relaying the GOOD NEWS that we all need to hear.

She's an amazing woman!

She would fit in well in here with the rest of the comedians and crybabys.

What a great, intelligent, and meaningful post randyps! Really! Can we get a round of applause for randyps?

SempiternalHarbinger wrote: ↑October 2nd, 2023, 10:24 pm

randyps wrote: ↑October 2nd, 2023, 9:48 pm

Hiker wrote: ↑October 2nd, 2023, 9:34 pm

She's an amazing woman!

She would fit in well in here with the rest of the comedians and crybabys.

What a great, intelligent, and meaningful post randyps! Really! Can we get a round of applause for randyps?

What would they perish from? I already established there was no pandemic.
So, these excess deaths must be from something else since I established it's not coronavirus and you established it's not the so-called "vaccine".
It's probably genetics giving this unnatural rise to sudden deaths and myocarditis.
Yes, definitely genetics.

randyps wrote: ↑October 2nd, 2023, 9:08 pm

thaabit wrote: ↑October 2nd, 2023, 7:40 pm I don't know anyone that died of coronavirus. I know personally ppl that have been injured by the vax. Therefore, there was never any pandemic. CASE CLOSED!

You can thank the vaccine for no one dying but that comes at the expense of a few side effects you get from any vaccine.
Much better then no vaccine and the entire human population perish.

SempiternalHarbinger wrote: ↑October 2nd, 2023, 10:24 pm

randyps wrote: ↑October 2nd, 2023, 9:48 pm

Hiker wrote: ↑October 2nd, 2023, 9:34 pm

She's an amazing woman!

She would fit in well in here with the rest of the comedians and crybabys.

What a great, intelligent, and meaningful post randyps! Really! Can we get a round of applause for randyps?

Thank you, I learn from the best here in LDSFF

thaabit wrote: ↑October 2nd, 2023, 11:06 pm

randyps wrote: ↑October 2nd, 2023, 9:08 pm

thaabit wrote: ↑October 2nd, 2023, 7:40 pm I don't know anyone that died of coronavirus. I know personally ppl that have been injured by the vax. Therefore, there was never any pandemic. CASE CLOSED!

You can thank the vaccine for no one dying but that comes at the expense of a few side effects you get from any vaccine.
Much better then no vaccine and the entire human population perish.

What would they perish from? I already established there was no pandemic.
So, these excess deaths must be from something else since I established it's not coronavirus and you established it's not the so-called "vaccine".
It's probably genetics giving this unnatural rise to sudden deaths and myocarditis.
Yes, definitely genetics.

So by you saying "there is no pandemic" does not magically erase the FACT that there was a Pandemic with many thousands dying in each city from the corona virus. My nurse and doctor friends that work in hospitals were overwhelmed with patients suffering from the corona. If not for the vaccine the world would have been in trouble. Like RMN said, it is a God-send.

I agree that myocarditis and other side effects from the "Emergency passed" mrna vax is a reality, just like most other vaccines created over the past 100 years has had side effects.
You are crying over thousands maybe even hundreds of thousands of vax injuries when it could have been much worse without a vaxine, Billions dead.

randyps wrote: ↑October 3rd, 2023, 12:08 am

thaabit wrote: ↑October 2nd, 2023, 11:06 pm

randyps wrote: ↑October 2nd, 2023, 9:08 pm
You can thank the vaccine for no one dying but that comes at the expense of a few side effects you get from any vaccine.
Much better then no vaccine and the entire human population perish.

What would they perish from? I already established there was no pandemic.
So, these excess deaths must be from something else since I established it's not coronavirus and you established it's not the so-called "vaccine".
It's probably genetics giving this unnatural rise to sudden deaths and myocarditis.
Yes, definitely genetics.

So by you saying "there is no pandemic" does not magically erase the FACT that there was a Pandemic with many thousands dying in each city from the corona virus. My nurse and doctor friends that work in hospitals were overwhelmed with patients suffering from the corona. If not for the vaccine the world would have been in trouble. Like RMN said, it is a God-send.

I agree that myocarditis and other side effects from the "Emergency passed" mrna vax is a reality, just like most other vaccines created over the past 100 years has had side effects.
You are crying over thousands maybe even hundreds of thousands of vax injuries when it could have been much worse without a vaxine, Billions dead.

Ivermectin and HCQ would have solved the problem, but they were suppressed to hold the door for a "vaccine" that was really a gene-modification shot that several doctors early on warned would ultimately be fatal to those who took it.

I have a deceased in-law who had all kinds of doctor friends who told her she should get the shot. She was diagnosed with multi-organ and lymph cancer five months after the shots. Passed away over a year ago. None of their fancy doctor friends knew anything about ivermectin or HCQ efficacy. Nope. Just get vaxxed. They are routinely down with COVID these days, often relegated to telemedicine. No connection is made in their minds.

Truth is abundant for those who love it, but an arch enemy to those who don't.

Blue Marble wrote: ↑October 1st, 2023, 10:19 pm

randyps wrote: ↑October 1st, 2023, 10:10 pm

Subcomandante wrote: ↑October 1st, 2023, 10:08 pm The talk touched me quite a bit. I really like what he had to say about addictions. They can come in many forms, but the Lord is displeased with them. It essentially means prioritizing the addiction over the worship of the Lord.

Im so glad that he also said food is an addiction. So many of my fat mormon family and friends point the finger at alcoholics and drug users as addicts.

No fatties in the Celestial Kingdom.

Well, yeah, because I don't think there's any stress there.

It’s not what he says, but what he doesn’t say. The man continually lets us know he doesn’t know what time it is—sweet words with no substance. I suppose his excuse is that he wants to avoid talking about politics, but our politics has a definite spiritual dimension which can’t be avoided any longer. The battle between Satan and Christ is raging and the LDS Church has for the most part declared neutrality. Members are questioning the church because the guidance it gives is either missing or wrong.

Let me give a simple example. The Church should be decrying any move to a Central Bank Digital Currency. Does it understand that a CBDC could destroy religious liberty by allowing the government to cutoff people with positions on moral issues the government doesn’t like? It could even cutoff individual donations to churches that run afoul of politically correct thinking.

Speak up.

randyps wrote: ↑October 3rd, 2023, 12:08 am

thaabit wrote: ↑October 2nd, 2023, 11:06 pm

randyps wrote: ↑October 2nd, 2023, 9:08 pm
You can thank the vaccine for no one dying but that comes at the expense of a few side effects you get from any vaccine.
Much better then no vaccine and the entire human population perish.

What would they perish from? I already established there was no pandemic.
So, these excess deaths must be from something else since I established it's not coronavirus and you established it's not the so-called "vaccine".
It's probably genetics giving this unnatural rise to sudden deaths and myocarditis.
Yes, definitely genetics.

So by you saying "there is no pandemic" does not magically erase the FACT that there was a Pandemic with many thousands dying in each city from the corona virus. My nurse and doctor friends that work in hospitals were overwhelmed with patients suffering from the corona. If not for the vaccine the world would have been in trouble. Like RMN said, it is a God-send.

I agree that myocarditis and other side effects from the "Emergency passed" mrna vax is a reality, just like most other vaccines created over the past 100 years has had side effects.
You are crying over thousands maybe even hundreds of thousands of vax injuries when it could have been much worse without a vaxine, Billions dead.

Billions dead without the vaccine? You have got to be joking. Nobody with any knowledge believes that. Even Donald Trump falsely claims his shot only saved 100 million. Many of those that died were already dying from cancer, heart disease and other issues. Others died because ventilators and remdesivir actually accelerated the deaths. The medical establishment got almost everything wrong including withholding hydroxychloroquine and ivermectin from patients who could have benefitted if they would have been provided early in their sickness. The jabs were unnecessary for most people and have harmed millions.

Severus wrote: ↑October 3rd, 2023, 2:20 am

Blue Marble wrote: ↑October 1st, 2023, 10:19 pm

randyps wrote: ↑October 1st, 2023, 10:10 pm

Im so glad that he also said food is an addiction. So many of my fat mormon family and friends point the finger at alcoholics and drug users as addicts.

No fatties in the Celestial Kingdom.

Well, yeah, because I don't think there's any stress there.

I suspect Celestial beings experience plenty of stress. God weeps for the state of His children, after all.

There’s no fatties in the Celestial Kingdom because Celestial law requires honoring and stewarding God’s creations.

randyps wrote: ↑October 3rd, 2023, 12:08 am
So by you saying "there is no pandemic" does not magically erase the FACT that there was a Pandemic with many thousands dying in each city from the corona virus. My nurse and doctor friends that work in hospitals were overwhelmed with patients suffering from the corona. If not for the vaccine the world would have been in trouble. Like RMN said, it is a God-send.

I agree that myocarditis and other side effects from the "Emergency passed" mrna vax is a reality, just like most other vaccines created over the past 100 years has had side effects.
You are crying over thousands maybe even hundreds of thousands of vax injuries when it could have been much worse without a vaxine, Billions dead.

FACTS? because we get information from faulty sources (the alphabet networks), the facts are rarely known. How to Lie Using Statistics by our friend Bill describes it. Most sources have agendas; some truth mingled with lies to make it sound reasonable in order to push an agenda forward. This they did with the scamdemic.

We may know the truth of all things by His power, not the arm of flesh which is corrupt.

You can always tell when someone watches mainstream media

randyps wrote: ↑October 3rd, 2023, 12:08 am

thaabit wrote: ↑October 2nd, 2023, 11:06 pm

randyps wrote: ↑October 2nd, 2023, 9:08 pm
You can thank the vaccine for no one dying but that comes at the expense of a few side effects you get from any vaccine.
Much better then no vaccine and the entire human population perish.

What would they perish from? I already established there was no pandemic.
So, these excess deaths must be from something else since I established it's not coronavirus and you established it's not the so-called "vaccine".
It's probably genetics giving this unnatural rise to sudden deaths and myocarditis.
Yes, definitely genetics.

So by you saying "there is no pandemic" does not magically erase the FACT that there was a Pandemic with many thousands dying in each city from the corona virus. My nurse and doctor friends that work in hospitals were overwhelmed with patients suffering from the corona. If not for the vaccine the world would have been in trouble. Like RMN said, it is a God-send.

I agree that myocarditis and other side effects from the "Emergency passed" mrna vax is a reality, just like most other vaccines created over the past 100 years has had side effects.
You are crying over thousands maybe even hundreds of thousands of vax injuries when it could have been much worse without a vaxine, Billions dead.

Billions of people were not going to die from COVID. It was not as scary as what people made it out to be. It doesn't mean it didn't exist and that vaccines were offered as a solution (I took two shots two plus years ago). Vaccines weren't the only go-to. When I went to the hospital for COVID and my fever was 104 and rising the doctors gave me ivermectin pills and it calmed down my fever. Another friend of mine who works for Johnson and Johnson in Mexico (!) used hydroxycloroquine. You would figure he would have taken his company's own vaccine but he elected for the Chinese Sinopharm/Sinovac vaccine. That should tell you a lot about how much confidence he had in his own company's vaccine. We aren't talking about some drone in the production line. He is a director within the company and he oversees multiple pharmaceutical products (he did not oversee the COVID vaccine).

randyps wrote: ↑October 3rd, 2023, 12:08 am

thaabit wrote: ↑October 2nd, 2023, 11:06 pm

randyps wrote: ↑October 2nd, 2023, 9:08 pm
You can thank the vaccine for no one dying but that comes at the expense of a few side effects you get from any vaccine.
Much better then no vaccine and the entire human population perish.

What would they perish from? I already established there was no pandemic.
So, these excess deaths must be from something else since I established it's not coronavirus and you established it's not the so-called "vaccine".
It's probably genetics giving this unnatural rise to sudden deaths and myocarditis.
Yes, definitely genetics.

So by you saying "there is no pandemic" does not magically erase the FACT that there was a Pandemic with many thousands dying in each city from the corona virus. My nurse and doctor friends that work in hospitals were overwhelmed with patients suffering from the corona. If not for the vaccine the world would have been in trouble. Like RMN said, it is a God-send.

I agree that myocarditis and other side effects from the "Emergency passed" mrna vax is a reality, just like most other vaccines created over the past 100 years has had side effects.
You are crying over thousands maybe even hundreds of thousands of vax injuries when it could have been much worse without a vaxine, Billions dead.

IT'S NOT A VACCINE !
WHEN ARE YOU PEOPLE GOING TO WAKE UP !

it's part of their NWO depop agenda.

from when I was SPIRIT in this forum
This is NOT a Vaccine !
Post by SPIRIT » March 29th, 2021, 9:51 am
viewtopic.php?p=1123758&hilit=not+vaccine#p1123758

This whole thing is ONE BIG SCAM friends
viewtopic.php?p=1105383&hilit=ONE+BIG+S ... s#p1105383

I posted literally hundreds of posts about this
search.php?keywords=vaccine&terms=all&a ... mit=Search

search.php?keywords=vaccine&terms=all&a ... mit=Search

randyps wrote: ↑October 2nd, 2023, 9:08 pm

thaabit wrote: ↑October 2nd, 2023, 7:40 pm

I don't know anyone that died of coronavirus. I know personally ppl that have been injured by the vax. Therefore, there was never any pandemic. CASE CLOSED!

You can thank the vaccine for no one dying but that comes at the expense of a few side effects you get from any vaccine.

Much better then no vaccine and the entire human population perish.

you've been duped my friend -

IT'S NOT A VACCINE ! they only disguised it as one.
(my comment right below this)
viewtopic.php?p=1426433#p1426433


as I said in another comment -

For over 3 years now, I've posted more posts and videos on this whole Scamdemic and it's kill shot
than anyone in this forum - literally 100's.
And normally, that's what I'd say - and it is partly true.
But "COVID" was very real.
Now whether or not it was actually the corona virus is another thing.
I believe it was maybe a variant of the flu, that seemed to be not so bad.
So yes, they were selling fear big time. Saying it was killing everyone,
so you need to get their killshot.
Like I had posted before (but of course google has taken it down)
something like -
" the vaccine wasn't brought in for Covid - Covid was brought in for the vaccine.
Once you realize that, everything else makes sense"

So like I was saying,
they started COVID so they could get everyone to take their fake vax.
But COVID was a little bit more than most of us thought it was.
I believe it was also meant to hurt and weaken people.
I myself haven't felt the same since I got COVID a few years ago.
I feel much more weak and tired now than before.
I've heard many people say the same thing.

So while the whole thing is a scam, I can assure you COVID and the killshot
are very real and part of the depop plan of the NWO.

Recently In many places and here in Mexico, a variant has sprung up
and many people (not myself) but many are starting to where their mask again;
which is absolutely ridiculous, because it doesn't help at all anyway.
But these gads won't stop putting out their Plandemics until they get what they want. -
depop and total control of everyone - and I mean the whole World. -
forced Vax - lockdowns - etc.

larsenb wrote: ↑October 2nd, 2023, 9:47 pm

Chip wrote: ↑October 2nd, 2023, 8:22 pm

larsenb wrote: ↑October 2nd, 2023, 8:08 pm

A phenomenal woman, any way you look at it.

She's relaying the GOOD NEWS that we all need to hear.

And she comes across as extremely joyful in her presentation.

It would be tempting to put her on the spot with the question of what the 'Father' might tell her about Joseph Smith and the Book of Mormon. If her connection is authentic, my guess is her answer would be a judicial side-step.

larsenb wrote: ↑October 2nd, 2023, 9:47 pm And she comes across as extremely joyful in her presentation.

She seems to be to be very excited and mostly superficial.
I understand what she is saying and I understand her excitement. However her style is certainly not for me.

Christianlee wrote: ↑October 3rd, 2023, 3:29 am It’s not what he says, but what he doesn’t say. The man continually lets us know he doesn’t know what time it is—sweet words with no substance. I suppose his excuse is that he wants to avoid talking about politics, but our politics has a definite spiritual dimension which can’t be avoided any longer. The battle between Satan and Christ is raging and the LDS Church has for the most part declared neutrality. Members are questioning the church because the guidance it gives is either missing or wrong.

Let me give a simple example. The Church should be decrying any move to a Central Bank Digital Currency. Does it understand that a CBDC could destroy religious liberty by allowing the government to cutoff people with positions on moral issues the government doesn’t like? It could even cutoff individual donations to churches that run afoul of politically correct thinking.

Speak up.

i believe the "church" understands CBDC and that they are as involved/partnered as they were with the whole vaxxx/masquerade -
follow the money - investments in vaxxx and UN etc, LONG before 2019
they very intentionally say, do, and don't in order to keep within the bounds their lord has set (their true leaders, UN, WEF, FDA, CDC, et al
and their "truth" can be circumscribed into one great HOLE ---pit, or whore