LDS Freedom Forum

tmac wrote: ↑September 29th, 2023, 7:35 pm Some good points. We know what Romney and his ilk are. But what I don’t understand is why anyone would be willing to assume that TB actually has solid conservative values/credentials. I can’t see where there is even any legitimate comparison to Ron Paul.

Any before getting all excited about electing someone as a senator, it would be nice to have a chance to actually see their true colors and principles in an actual policy position, like governor, legislator, or congressional rep.

At this point, I think his chances of running for US senate or winning the seat are shot.

Even though I think Ballard probably did do this stuff and I think adultery continues to be the silver bullet blocking greater light and Zion from happening (and maybe he is innocent, I do think that is possible), I will still support a senate run for him (unless someone clearly more appealing steps forward). This info, true or not, was released way too close to the senate news. It's clearly being put out there to stop his chances of winning. Lust and adultery destroys but there are men and women bogged down in sin that can still do good and can be a better alternative to establishment shills that prop up the empire.

All of Tm Ballard's books and tapes were absent from Deseret Bookstore .'s shelves today

BuriedTartaria wrote: ↑September 29th, 2023, 10:32 pm Even though I think Ballard probably did do this stuff and I think adultery continues to be the silver bullet blocking greater light and Zion from happening (and maybe he is innocent, I do think that is possible), I will still support a senate run for him (unless someone clearly more appealing steps forward). This info, true or not, was released way too close to the senate news. It's clearly being put out there to stop his chances of winning. Lust and adultery destroys but there are men and women bogged down in sin that can still do good and can be a better alternative to establishment shills that prop up the empire.

What if he knew the information was going to come out and so decided to run for the vacant seat so he could claim it is all a smear campaign?

Telavian wrote: ↑September 29th, 2023, 11:43 pm

BuriedTartaria wrote: ↑September 29th, 2023, 10:32 pm Even though I think Ballard probably did do this stuff and I think adultery continues to be the silver bullet blocking greater light and Zion from happening (and maybe he is innocent, I do think that is possible), I will still support a senate run for him (unless someone clearly more appealing steps forward). This info, true or not, was released way too close to the senate news. It's clearly being put out there to stop his chances of winning. Lust and adultery destroys but there are men and women bogged down in sin that can still do good and can be a better alternative to establishment shills that prop up the empire.

What if he knew the information was going to come out and so decided to run for the vacant seat so he could claim it is all a smear campaign?

Fair point.

Mormons: "OMG! Tim allegedly faked kissing with actress operators and used Russell Ballards name for gain while paying himself CEO money"

The Rest of America: "Whats on Netflix tonight?"

Q15: "Lets Ex-communicate someone this week"

on a serious note if you are temple endowed you are expected to behave a lot more.

Its why our leaders dont have a problem associating with sinners that havent commited to baptimal covenants etc..

randyps wrote: ↑September 30th, 2023, 3:27 am on a serious note if you are temple endowed you are expected to behave a lot more.

Its why our leaders don't have a problem associating with sinners that haven't committed to baptismal covenants etc..

But they socialize with one another.

I wonder what their hierarchy of sin is. I suppose priestcraft and secret society membership is low on the list and that getting accused publicly of adultery is high.

I mean he hasn't even been been proven guilty yet.

And if Elder Ballard and Romney don't dissociate from Bowen, then wth?

Is Bowen still ex'ed? If he is, then it's more ok to associate with a freak like that?

For me it is not possible to conclude otherwise, that Romney is dirty as hell. And that Elder Ballard is a unrepentant Sigma Chi member and black supper partaker.

Jeremiah 23
“Both prophet and priest are ungodly; even in my house I have found their evil, declares the Lord...they commit adultery and walk in lies; they strengthen the hands of evildoers, so that no one turns from his evil; all of them have become like Sodom to me, and its inhabitants like Gomorrah.”...Thus says the Lord of hosts: “Do not listen to the words of the prophets who prophesy to you, filling you with vain hopes. They speak visions of their own minds, not from the mouth of the Lord. They say continually to those who despise the word of the Lord, ‘It shall be well with you’; and to everyone who stubbornly follows his own heart, they say, ‘No disaster shall come upon you.’”...In the latter days you will understand it clearly...“I did not send the prophets yet they ran; I did not speak to them, yet they prophesied. But if they had stood in my council, then they would have proclaimed my words to my people, and they would have turned them from their evil way, and from the evil of their deeds.

If the church is the whore of Babylon doing favors at its behest like excommuning Tim Ballard because he threatens the new order is this scripture applicable in 1 Nephi 22...

13 And the blood of that great and abominable church, which is the whore of all the earth, shall turn upon their own heads; for they shall war among themselves, and the sword of their own hands shall fall upon their own heads, and they shall be drunken with their own blood.

14 And every nation which shall war against thee, O house of Israel, shall be turned one against another, and they shall fall into the pit which they digged to ensnare the people of the Lord. And all that fight against Zion shall be destroyed, and that great whore, who hath perverted the right ways of the Lord, yea, that great and abominable church, shall tumble to the dust and great shall be the fall of it.

23 For the time speedily shall come that all churches which are built up to get gain, and all those who are built up to get power over the flesh, and those who are built up to become popular in the eyes of the world, and those who seek the lusts of the flesh and the things of the world, and to do all manner of iniquity; yea, in fine, all those who belong to the kingdom of the devil are they who need fear, and tremble, and quake; they are those who must be brought low in the dust; they are those who must be consumed as stubble; and this is according to the words of the prophet.

Tim Ballard was not exed because of:
Money laundering, the church does it as well.
Supposed adultery…. they don’t care and they don’t even ex molesters.
Using Russell Ballard’s precious name incorrectly.

The real reasons:
For Russell Ballard getting caught as a silent supporter of OUR.
For potentially running for senate and not being a Romney.

Here is a video of a guy who worked undercover with Tim Ballard. Doesn't sound good for Tim...

randyps wrote: ↑September 30th, 2023, 3:27 am on a serious note if you are temple endowed you are expected to behave a lot more.

Its why our leaders dont have a problem associating with sinners that havent commited to baptimal covenants etc..

They socialize and join forces... or unite with satanists and his church. If someone would like to try and explain to me that the United Nations and their agenda 2030 isn't satanic, I'm up for a laugh.

investigator wrote: ↑September 30th, 2023, 9:06 am Here is a video of a guy who worked undercover with Tim Ballard. Doesn't sound good for Tim...

That video is six days old, and in this particular dust-up, that’s a looong time, and definitely old news at this point.

Fred wrote: ↑September 28th, 2023, 7:50 pm The women must be credible. Being excommunicated is a bit steep just for attempting a Senate run or using a GA's name to make money.

That's what one might assume... I wouldn't assume that, though.

We don’t even know if he was actually ex’d. There has been no evidence produced. Only rumors.

InfoWarrior82 wrote: ↑September 30th, 2023, 9:39 am

randyps wrote: ↑September 30th, 2023, 3:27 am on a serious note if you are temple endowed you are expected to behave a lot more.

Its why our leaders dont have a problem associating with sinners that havent commited to baptimal covenants etc..

They socialize and join forces... or unite with satanists and his church. If someone would like to try and explain to me that the United Nations and their agenda 2030 isn't satanic, I'm up for a laugh.

Islam and sharia law is the ultimate evil spreading in the west right under our noses, we need friends.

randyps wrote: ↑September 30th, 2023, 11:31 am

InfoWarrior82 wrote: ↑September 30th, 2023, 9:39 am

randyps wrote: ↑September 30th, 2023, 3:27 am on a serious note if you are temple endowed you are expected to behave a lot more.

Its why our leaders dont have a problem associating with sinners that havent commited to baptimal covenants etc..

They socialize and join forces... or unite with satanists and his church. If someone would like to try and explain to me that the United Nations and their agenda 2030 isn't satanic, I'm up for a laugh.

Islam and sharia law is the ultimate evil spreading in the west right under our noses, we need friends.

So combine with Satan? Trust me, we don't need Satan as an ally to combat his other hand of evil islamists.

InfoWarrior82 wrote: ↑September 30th, 2023, 12:18 pm

randyps wrote: ↑September 30th, 2023, 11:31 am

InfoWarrior82 wrote: ↑September 30th, 2023, 9:39 am

They socialize and join forces... or unite with satanists and his church. If someone would like to try and explain to me that the United Nations and their agenda 2030 isn't satanic, I'm up for a laugh.

Islam and sharia law is the ultimate evil spreading in the west right under our noses, we need friends.

So combine with Satan? Trust me, we don't need Satan as an ally to combat his other hand of evil islamists.

A world controlled by islam will not allow christianity

randyps wrote: ↑September 30th, 2023, 3:02 pm

InfoWarrior82 wrote: ↑September 30th, 2023, 12:18 pm

randyps wrote: ↑September 30th, 2023, 11:31 am
Islam and sharia law is the ultimate evil spreading in the west right under our noses, we need friends.

So combine with Satan? Trust me, we don't need Satan as an ally to combat his other hand of evil islamists.

A world controlled by islam will not allow christianity

What if I told you that Satan won't allow Islam to exist either? My point is that joining Satan to try defend against Islam is not a great idea

Wolfwoman wrote: ↑September 29th, 2023, 11:30 am John Dehlin is trying to get confirmation from Tim’s bishop and stake president that he was in fact excommunicated. But they aren’t supposed to put that information out, are they?

Yes, they might. Or, the Church might.

Shawn Henry wrote: ↑September 29th, 2023, 2:19 pm

The Red Pill wrote: ↑September 28th, 2023, 10:39 pm Another me-too hit job?

The primary goal was definitely to derail his Senate ambitions and we all know Soros money can buy witnesses to say anything, but these 7 women were all employees of OUR. It seems near impossible, unless these employees already hated him or something. How do you get 7 women who like working for an organization that saves children to lie for money?

Who says it was for money?
GR use any of the following, and more: money, power, sex, threat, blackmail, murder.

Thinker wrote: ↑September 29th, 2023, 1:11 pm

Robin Hood wrote: ↑September 29th, 2023, 10:53 am I've never heard of a disciplinary council being held on a Monday evening.

Once upon a time, in the church, Monday evenings were considered strictly for family home evening (FHE) - & no church activities were to be scheduled then.

I don’t remember last time I heard FHE be mentioned in church - been a long time. Seems especially with some GA comments to youth about not needing parents so much, that they think they can parent better than parents.

I remember when FHE was on Thursday - then I think it was on maybe Wed for a while (?) - then they finally settled on Monday. Heck, I can remember when they had books about how to do it, but no set day for it.

Telavian wrote: ↑September 29th, 2023, 2:16 pm

Seed Starter wrote: ↑September 29th, 2023, 1:53 pm I can't see the rest of this article because of the paywall but this is brutal. They want nothing to do with Tim.
https://www.sltrib.com/religion/2023/09 ... llard-lds/

Open the link in incognito mode.
I don't think this is a global conspiracy or anything. It is just people are finally realizing the truth.

I opened it in a private tab (Firefox's version of incognito, I suppose), and it worked. I'll have to remember that the next time someone sends me a link to an article I can't read.

BKColt wrote: ↑September 29th, 2023, 10:34 pm All of Tm Ballard's books and tapes were absent from Deseret Bookstore .'s shelves today

That link that was behind a paywall said that Deseret pulled all his books.

Seed Starter wrote: ↑September 29th, 2023, 1:53 pm I can't see the rest of this article because of the paywall but this is brutal. They want nothing to do with Tim.
https://www.sltrib.com/religion/2023/09 ... llard-lds/