Tim Ballard ex’ed

[BroJones]

What troubles me most is that law enforcement can publicly and loudly announce you’re under official investigation and then after two years just sorta go away with a barely publicized statement that no charges will be brought. If that injury was not enough, the insult is: they put their reports and docs from the investigation out to the media to ruin your personal and professional standing.

Ballard may very well be a bad actor, but that’s beside the point. Our institutions and processes are no longer being undermined and abused, they’re flat out ignored and the people in charge are weaponizing them against their opponents. The era of soft tyranny is fading and it is terrifying. God help us.

Good point.
About John Dehlin's video - can someone summarize what he says - how he knows this - and on what basis was Tim Ballard allegedly ex'ed? (thanks)

[Wolfwoman]

What troubles me most is that law enforcement can publicly and loudly announce you’re under official investigation and then after two years just sorta go away with a barely publicized statement that no charges will be brought. If that injury was not enough, the insult is: they put their reports and docs from the investigation out to the media to ruin your personal and professional standing.

Ballard may very well be a bad actor, but that’s beside the point. Our institutions and processes are no longer being undermined and abused, they’re flat out ignored and the people in charge are weaponizing them against their opponents. The era of soft tyranny is fading and it is terrifying. God help us.

Good point.
About John Dehlin's video - can someone summarize what he says - how he knows this - and on what basis was Tim Ballard allegedly ex'ed? (thanks)

As far as I know, John Dehlin said:
1. People in the know have told him that Tim was excommunicated the week of 9/27/23.
2. Some bishop friend of his went into the church records to attempt to pull Tim’s family’s membership records into their ward, but didn’t actually do it. Just took a screenshot of the family, showing Katherine Ballard as the head of household, and Tim was not listed.
3. When asked about it, Katherine Ballard said that she and Tim have been in communication with their ecclesiastical leaders, and they are keeping it all private.

Apparently number 2 doesn’t mean he was exed. Someone could have asked their record to be marked private and then it wouldn’t show up. Also it showed Katherine as being 44 years old, but she’s actually 47?

In the video, John and Gerardo talked a lot about what the church handbook says about when to hold a disciplinary council or excommunicate someone. Gerardo went on and on and on about how people don’t get excommunicated for “cheating on their wives” or “going to brothels”. Utterly ridiculous. He thinks a person has to do something even worse than that - outlined in the handbook. John pushed back a little bit by saying, “I think the church is their private club and if they want to kick someone out of their private club, they will.” (They wouldn’t necessarily have to follow the handbook letter of the law.)
They also discussed Katherine’s public statement about it.
They also discussed Tim’s new stake president that was supposedly put in days before Tim was ex’ed.

[Seed Starter]

What troubles me most is that law enforcement can publicly and loudly announce you’re under official investigation and then after two years just sorta go away with a barely publicized statement that no charges will be brought. If that injury was not enough, the insult is: they put their reports and docs from the investigation out to the media to ruin your personal and professional standing.

Ballard may very well be a bad actor, but that’s beside the point. Our institutions and processes are no longer being undermined and abused, they’re flat out ignored and the people in charge are weaponizing them against their opponents. The era of soft tyranny is fading and it is terrifying. God help us.

Good point.
About John Dehlin's video - can someone summarize what he says - how he knows this - and on what basis was Tim Ballard allegedly ex'ed? (thanks)

As far as I know, John Dehlin said:
1. People in the know have told him that Tim was excommunicated the week of 9/27/23.
2. Some bishop friend of his went into the church records to attempt to pull Tim’s family’s membership records into their ward, but didn’t actually do it. Just took a screenshot of the family, showing Katherine Ballard as the head of household, and Tim was not listed.
3. When asked about it, Katherine Ballard said that she and Tim have been in communication with their ecclesiastical leaders, and they are keeping it all private.

Apparently number 2 doesn’t mean he was exed. Someone could have asked their record to be marked private and then it wouldn’t show up. Also it showed Katherine as being 44 years old, but she’s actually 47?

In the video, John and Gerardo talked a lot about what the church handbook says about when to hold a disciplinary council or excommunicate someone. Gerardo went on and on and on about how people don’t get excommunicated for “cheating on their wives” or “going to brothels”. Utterly ridiculous. He thinks a person has to do something even worse than that - outlined in the handbook. John pushed back a little bit by saying, “I think the church is their private club and if they want to kick someone out of their private club, they will.” (They wouldn’t necessarily have to follow the handbook letter of the law.)
They also discussed Katherine’s public statement about it.
They also discussed Tim’s new stake president that was supposedly put in days before Tim was ex’ed.

Keeping it all private? That's quite a contrast from asking bystanders to send his video response to the media saying nothing you hear is true about the church condemning him.
https://www.fox13now.com/news/local-new ... own-church
While on a tour in Boston, Ballard addressed a crowd of supporters and encouraged them to send his recorded statements to the media.
“It’s not true, nothing you hear is true,” Ballard begins in the video.
At times, he was passionate – shouting at cameras.
At times, he lowered his voice and teared up.
“This is breaking down my family like you can’t believe,” Tim Ballard said.

This is rich:
“I don’t believe the Church did this,” he said in the video. “I truly don’t. Can you imagine that the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints would publicly condemn one of its members?”

Surprise Tim! It looks like even Tim will make a claim before he knows the truthfulness of a claim. And he disagrees with facts in a passionate way. Passion doesn't equal truth. Silence is interesting in this case.

[fractal_light_harvest]

It was my understanding a council could proceed if they had 2 or 3 witnesses against a person even without a confessionn that the council deemed credible or wanted to trust. Is this wrong? Not sure tbh. Idk if they’re allowed to use public statements or ones from non-members etc or not?

[logicalheart]

I wonder why John D. is so interested in it.

I think he hates the LDS Church and wants to do all he can to make it look as horrible as possible.

I only listened to him once, and couldn’t finish listening. It seemed like his primary purpose is to be anti-mormon. It is sad when people leave the church and then work to destroy it. A normal person would simply promote their alternative religion while supporting the LDS principles they still agree with. It was disgusting listening to him promote sexual masturbation. It seems like he’s just following his own wandering path of morality.

With the world being so wicked, I am happy to support any God fearing person who believes in the Bible and wants to live the Gospel.

[Silver Pie]

I only listened to him once, and couldn’t finish listening. It seemed like his primary purpose is to be anti-mormon. It is sad when people leave the church and then work to destroy it. A normal person would simply promote their alternative religion while supporting the LDS principles they still agree with. It was disgusting listening to him promote sexual masturbation. It seems like he’s just following his own wandering path of morality.

With the world being so wicked, I am happy to support any God fearing person who believes in the Bible and wants to live the Gospel.

I used to watch him if he was interviewing someone I was interested in listening to. It was a good show, for the most part. He seemed relatively unbiased. But after he left the LDS Church, he seemed to try to draw his guests to saying more and more negative things about the LDS Church. When they didn't follow where he was leading, he seemed (to me) a bit exasperated.

It felt like I was watching someone who didn't care a lot about the LDS Church, but was willing to hear different viewpoints change into someone who really preferred guests who trashed the LDS Church, even if they didn't feel that way about the religion.

[logicalheart]

Lots of reasearch put into this video by Lynn Packer about Tim Ballard and Russel Ballard.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=DXbcrDd4J-Q

[Silver Pie]

I never watch Dehlin's show now. I don't think I've watched it for 8 or 9 years. The LDS Church is not all bad, yet he seems to want it to be.

I believe the leaders are doing the devil's bidding. Wittingly or not, I don't know, and prefer to err on the side of mercy if I can - but that doesn't change the fact that they are false prophets, do not reveal anything new from God, nor see into the heavens (nor see the past or future). And the current top leader is obviously incredibly self-centered if one can see him dispassionately. But even that doesn't mean the people are all bad. I think there are some very good people still faithful to it who don't realize what is really happening.

I can't speak to the programs nor the social aspect (or lack thereof) of the current organization because I left a few years ago. From what I've seen people say online, it seems like the organization is going downhill, and being worse and worse for the members. That makes me sad because I have family and friends who are (or were last I knew) faithful believers in "the Prophet," etc. like I used to be. I was most faithful because I loved Jesus, and believed what I was taught by the society I grew up in, lived in, and the Church that was there in my family since the time of Joseph Smith (for most lines back). Ironically, it was Jesus who opened my eyes to the truth about the LDS Church's standing (or lack thereof) before him.

[Seed Starter]

Lots of reasearch put into this video by Lynn Packer about Tim Ballard and Russel Ballard.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=DXbcrDd4J-Q

I just barely finished watching that and then saw your post. It's obvious the Ballard's have been working closely for a while. It's interesting that MR Ballard had his son in law act as a silent partner. Nobody will figure that out LOL

[Wolfwoman]

Good point.
About John Dehlin's video - can someone summarize what he says - how he knows this - and on what basis was Tim Ballard allegedly ex'ed? (thanks)

As far as I know, John Dehlin said:
1. People in the know have told him that Tim was excommunicated the week of 9/27/23.
2. Some bishop friend of his went into the church records to attempt to pull Tim’s family’s membership records into their ward, but didn’t actually do it. Just took a screenshot of the family, showing Katherine Ballard as the head of household, and Tim was not listed.
3. When asked about it, Katherine Ballard said that she and Tim have been in communication with their ecclesiastical leaders, and they are keeping it all private.

Apparently number 2 doesn’t mean he was exed. Someone could have asked their record to be marked private and then it wouldn’t show up. Also it showed Katherine as being 44 years old, but she’s actually 47?

In the video, John and Gerardo talked a lot about what the church handbook says about when to hold a disciplinary council or excommunicate someone. Gerardo went on and on and on about how people don’t get excommunicated for “cheating on their wives” or “going to brothels”. Utterly ridiculous. He thinks a person has to do something even worse than that - outlined in the handbook. John pushed back a little bit by saying, “I think the church is their private club and if they want to kick someone out of their private club, they will.” (They wouldn’t necessarily have to follow the handbook letter of the law.)
They also discussed Katherine’s public statement about it.
They also discussed Tim’s new stake president that was supposedly put in days before Tim was ex’ed.

Keeping it all private? That's quite a contrast from asking bystanders to send his video response to the media saying nothing you hear is true about the church condemning him.
https://www.fox13now.com/news/local-new ... own-church
While on a tour in Boston, Ballard addressed a crowd of supporters and encouraged them to send his recorded statements to the media.
“It’s not true, nothing you hear is true,” Ballard begins in the video.
At times, he was passionate – shouting at cameras.
At times, he lowered his voice and teared up.
“This is breaking down my family like you can’t believe,” Tim Ballard said.

This is rich:
“I don’t believe the Church did this,” he said in the video. “I truly don’t. Can you imagine that the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints would publicly condemn one of its members?”

Surprise Tim! It looks like even Tim will make a claim before he knows the truthfulness of a claim. And he disagrees with facts in a passionate way. Passion doesn't equal truth. Silence is interesting in this case.

That video by Tim was a couple weeks before the supposed excommunication. Things changed and developed quickly in this case!

Honestly Katherine’s public statement is, to me, the biggest piece of evidence that he may have been ex’ed. If he was a member in good standing, they would have just said that he’s still a member in good standing, has a temple recommend, etc.
But I can’t blame her for wanting to keep it private. I’m sure her family has been through hell for the past few weeks.

[Seed Starter]

As far as I know, John Dehlin said:
1. People in the know have told him that Tim was excommunicated the week of 9/27/23.
2. Some bishop friend of his went into the church records to attempt to pull Tim’s family’s membership records into their ward, but didn’t actually do it. Just took a screenshot of the family, showing Katherine Ballard as the head of household, and Tim was not listed.
3. When asked about it, Katherine Ballard said that she and Tim have been in communication with their ecclesiastical leaders, and they are keeping it all private.

Apparently number 2 doesn’t mean he was exed. Someone could have asked their record to be marked private and then it wouldn’t show up. Also it showed Katherine as being 44 years old, but she’s actually 47?

In the video, John and Gerardo talked a lot about what the church handbook says about when to hold a disciplinary council or excommunicate someone. Gerardo went on and on and on about how people don’t get excommunicated for “cheating on their wives” or “going to brothels”. Utterly ridiculous. He thinks a person has to do something even worse than that - outlined in the handbook. John pushed back a little bit by saying, “I think the church is their private club and if they want to kick someone out of their private club, they will.” (They wouldn’t necessarily have to follow the handbook letter of the law.)
They also discussed Katherine’s public statement about it.
They also discussed Tim’s new stake president that was supposedly put in days before Tim was ex’ed.

Keeping it all private? That's quite a contrast from asking bystanders to send his video response to the media saying nothing you hear is true about the church condemning him.
https://www.fox13now.com/news/local-new ... own-church
While on a tour in Boston, Ballard addressed a crowd of supporters and encouraged them to send his recorded statements to the media.
“It’s not true, nothing you hear is true,” Ballard begins in the video.
At times, he was passionate – shouting at cameras.
At times, he lowered his voice and teared up.
“This is breaking down my family like you can’t believe,” Tim Ballard said.

This is rich:
“I don’t believe the Church did this,” he said in the video. “I truly don’t. Can you imagine that the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints would publicly condemn one of its members?”

Surprise Tim! It looks like even Tim will make a claim before he knows the truthfulness of a claim. And he disagrees with facts in a passionate way. Passion doesn't equal truth. Silence is interesting in this case.

That video by Tim was a couple weeks before the supposed excommunication. Things changed and developed quickly in this case!

Honestly Katherine’s public statement is, to me, the biggest piece of evidence that he may have been ex’ed. If he was a member in good standing, they would have just said that he’s still a member in good standing, has a temple recommend, etc.
But I can’t blame her for wanting to keep it private. I’m sure her family has been through hell for the past few weeks.

I'm aware of that. I only meant to point out how he was loudly proclaiming everything is fine even telling people to send the story to the news. Tim asking for privacy is a bit silly now but I feel for innocent people around him feeling pain. I don't think this is anywhere close to being over. If Tim did wrong I would recommend that he take responsibility fully and quickly. Dragging things out will only keep the pain going for those close to him. If he's innocent he should demand the church fix what they've broken.

[OPMissionary]

Surprisingly this story hasn't seemed to have been picked up by mainstream news.

[Fred]

This woman is easier to listen to than John Dehlin. She has a certain sarcasm as she outlines the pertinent details from various sources. She speaks of the women operatives required to get a Brazilian wax. But the over all details are actually comical when you pretend that what Tim Ballard says is true.

[Bonhoeffer]

I’d highly recommend reading this very detailed account of the people TB associated with.
https://www.reddit.com/r/mormon/comment ... e_meldrum/

What is very alarming to me, as I’m reading this is that there may be a connection between the kinds of people Tim was actively involved with & Chad Daybell and Lori Vallow, the religious extremists who killed her children, as well as a Jodi Hildebrandt, who was recently arrested in Utah for severe abuse of children, along with Ruby Franke (who’s children were the ones abused). Of interest, Chad Daybell is from the same city Rube Franke lives in. Not assuming they know each other but also not assuming they don’t.

[Bonhoeffer]

Here’s the Blaze article Fred’s video above references.

https://www.theblaze.com/news/blaze-new ... d-railroad

[Bonhoeffer]

Holy cow TB was involved in some very demonic practices! You cannot invite the devil into your life & not experience bad ramifications

“To that end, several women told Blaze News that Ballard encouraged them to participate in tantric massages before and while on a couples ruse. A tantric massage is an erotic massage that often involves participants lying naked or nearly naked together. For men, a tantric massage is called "lingam," a Sanskrit word for penis that some tantric massage enthusiasts have translated to mean "shaft of light" or "wand of light."

"It's just about making it real and tapping into tantric /light," his text continued, according to the screenshot seen by Blaze News.

"I think u will be surprised how FAST we connect," he added in a follow-up text.

When Blaze News asked Ballard about tantric massages, he initially appeared confused and claimed he was "not at all" familiar with the term. He then seemed to understand and likened tantric trainings to yoga or a breathing exercise and claimed he used the words "tantric," "reiki," "goddess," or "energy" interchangeably to describe such trainings. He insisted that participants always wore clothes during these tantric trainings, that others were always present, and that "zero massage" was involved with them.

He also suggested that "tantric" could be used to refer to the exotic, "ritual kind of places" that trainees would occasionally visit for more in-depth role-playing.

[farmerchick]

Ummm ya..where are the tb supporters on ldsff now?...glenn back has even weighed in....thats quite the news article the blaze has posted. Everyone of the tbtb (trublu tim Ballard) supporters should really take a moment to read and contemplate......
Edit to add: I had no idea a brazillian wax would have been in the cards for the undercover operatives.....i really didn't see that coming...lol..that was a surprise detail.

[Wolfwoman]

I’d highly recommend reading this very detailed account of the people TB associated with.
https://www.reddit.com/r/mormon/comment ... e_meldrum/

What is very alarming to me, as I’m reading this is that there may be a connection between the kinds of people Tim was actively involved with & Chad Daybell and Lori Vallow, the religious extremists who killed her children, as well as a Jodi Hildebrandt, who was recently arrested in Utah for severe abuse of children, along with Ruby Franke (who’s children were the ones abused). Of interest, Chad Daybell is from the same city Rube Franke lives in. Not assuming they know each other but also not assuming they don’t.

Meh, that seems a bit conspiracy theorist to me. The Mormon world is a small world and everyone is connected somehow. Probably closer than the 6 degrees of Kevin Bacon.
I have read visions of glory, Julie Rowe’s book, NDEs, attended the preparing a people conference just like Chad and Lori did. But I’m not about to commit adultery or kill my husband or kids. And I believe Rod Meldrum is a good guy. Just because people are at the same town, church, conference, religion, doesn’t mean they are guilty of the same sins as others in that group.

[J2]

I’d highly recommend reading this very detailed account of the people TB associated with.
https://www.reddit.com/r/mormon/comment ... e_meldrum/

What is very alarming to me, as I’m reading this is that there may be a connection between the kinds of people Tim was actively involved with & Chad Daybell and Lori Vallow, the religious extremists who killed her children, as well as a Jodi Hildebrandt, who was recently arrested in Utah for severe abuse of children, along with Ruby Franke (who’s children were the ones abused). Of interest, Chad Daybell is from the same city Rube Franke lives in. Not assuming they know each other but also not assuming they don’t.

Meh, that seems a bit conspiracy theorist to me. The Mormon world is a small world and everyone is connected somehow. Probably closer than the 6 degrees of Kevin Bacon.
I have read visions of glory, Julie Rowe’s book, NDEs, attended the preparing a people conference just like Chad and Lori did. But I’m not about to commit adultery or kill my husband or kids. And I believe Rod Meldrum is a good guy. Just because people are at the same town, church, conference, religion, doesn’t mean they are guilty of the same sins as others in that group.

Yeah, that Reddit thread seems like nothing more than an effort to lump innocent people in with the alleged "guilty parties" to make them all look bad.

Seems to be a common tactic of the political left these days - you are deemed guilty purely by association, rather than because you committed any actual crime. Just look at what they are trying to do with everyone in Trump's orbit. It stinks exactly the same way.

I don't trust any of it. Seems like the tactics of Satan to me. Isn't he frequently referred to as the "great accuser?"

[Wolfwoman]

Bleh, I read the Blaze article. It’s not looking good. Tim has responses to every accusation, but if they have the actual text messages, then it would show he lied.

The Brazilian wax thing, oh my! Lol That would have been a dealbreaker for me. Youch!!

He also allegedly used the Nephi story of cutting off Laban’s head to convince them to do the sexual things.

[farmerchick]

I'm a little skeptic of the reddit as well....I'm not seeing those Connections with tb...seems like a reach....tb seems to be In a class by himself.

[Seed Starter]

Bleh, I read the Blaze article. It’s not looking good. Tim has responses to every accusation, but if they have the actual text messages, then it would show he lied.

The Brazilian wax thing, oh my! Lol That would have been a dealbreaker for me. Youch!!

He also allegedly used the Nephi story of cutting off Laban’s head to convince them to do the sexual things.

So far I've heard Tim say he had other people at OUR pre-load his phone with filth. That was on his recent Adam Corolla interview with his wife next to him. In the Glenn Beck investigative article, it said, "A source familiar with O.U.R. operations told Blaze News that Ballard was the only operative who ever "practiced" with women or sent explicit text messages to them in connection with a couples ruse. O.U.R. did not return a request for comment seeking clarification of these issues."

Through these couples ruses, both in the office and in the field, Ballard eventually engaged in sexual contact with some women and propositioned others, the women told Blaze News. "As far as physical [touching], he made it pretty clear that really the only thing that was not going to be considered, if need be, during an op was kissing on the lips," one woman said. "Everything else was pretty much a go and, honestly, more than just a go; it's something that I should anticipate and be prepared to make happen for the sake of the act."

Also from the GB article:
"Another woman claimed that, while on a mission, she and Ballard participated in several "sexual acts with the exception of actual penetration." She also stated that their sexual contact ended at the end of the mission.

Other women mentioned engaging in sexual acts and being in various states of undress with Ballard while on a mission, sometimes even while at their private accommodations when no one else was around. According to the women, Ballard would argue that they had to maintain the appearance of a romantic relationship at all times during a mission because suspicious traffickers might be surveilling them at any moment.

Ballard denied that he engaged in any physical contact beyond "hand-holding, arms around shoulders, stuff like that." He also alleged that some female operatives wanted to kiss him during a mission to put on a more convincing performance, but he always refused. "There's no reason to do it. It's not appropriate," he claimed he would tell them.

A source familiar with O.U.R. operations denied that O.U.R. would ever have approved of any sexual contact between couples ruse partners."

What a boy scout Tim makes himself out to be. They wanted to kiss more than I did but I said no LOL. Sure Tim.

And boy if this can be proven it will be a bad day for Tim. The outlet releasing this is owned by a long time friend of Tim and someone who ran the Nazarene fund and Glenn Beck kicked him out as CEO. Vice news going against Tim is one thing, this is Glenn Beck believing what he's seen. Glenn was defending Tim up until a short time ago so nobody can say Glen is trying to take Tim out. Perhaps the women are but they seem to be doing a great job at convincing Tim's friends that Tims dirty. Smoke smoke everywhere, the fire is coming...

"Despite these sometimes severe aftereffects, some of the women still hesitated to report Ballard's alleged behavior to those at O.U.R. or to others in their communities for fear of retribution. "He has threatened to destroy our lives if we speak out," one woman said.

"I have 1,000 bricks, and you only have one," Ballard allegedly warned another after she confronted him about his alleged behavior, she told Blaze News.

But their fear is not limited to Ballard or to his supposed allies at O.U.R. Many women also expressed to Blaze News a deep concern about the potential fallout of these accusations from the media and the public at large."

[tmac]

The TB Dust-up is still ongoing? Some people (TB?) just don’t know when to call it a day.

[OPMissionary]

Holy cow TB was involved in some very demonic practices! You cannot invite the devil into your life & not experience bad ramifications

“To that end, several women told Blaze News that Ballard encouraged them to participate in tantric massages before and while on a couples ruse. A tantric massage is an erotic massage that often involves participants lying naked or nearly naked together. For men, a tantric massage is called "lingam," a Sanskrit word for penis that some tantric massage enthusiasts have translated to mean "shaft of light" or "wand of light."

"It's just about making it real and tapping into tantric /light," his text continued, according to the screenshot seen by Blaze News.

"I think u will be surprised how FAST we connect," he added in a follow-up text.

When Blaze News asked Ballard about tantric massages, he initially appeared confused and claimed he was "not at all" familiar with the term. He then seemed to understand and likened tantric trainings to yoga or a breathing exercise and claimed he used the words "tantric," "reiki," "goddess," or "energy" interchangeably to describe such trainings. He insisted that participants always wore clothes during these tantric trainings, that others were always present, and that "zero massage" was involved with them.

He also suggested that "tantric" could be used to refer to the exotic, "ritual kind of places" that trainees would occasionally visit for more in-depth role-playing.

There is nothing demonic about Tantra. When practiced with someone other than your spouse, this is problematic to be sure, but it is nothing more than an esoteric energetic sexual practice that can be used to connect to higher states of consciousness. It emphasizes a divine connection between masculine and feminine energies.

[OPMissionary]

Bleh, I read the Blaze article. It’s not looking good. Tim has responses to every accusation, but if they have the actual text messages, then it would show he lied.

The Brazilian wax thing, oh my! Lol That would have been a dealbreaker for me. Youch!!

He also allegedly used the Nephi story of cutting off Laban’s head to convince them to do the sexual things.

So far I've heard Tim say he had other people at OUR pre-load his phone with filth. That was on his recent Adam Corolla interview with his wife next to him. In the Glenn Beck investigative article, it said, "A source familiar with O.U.R. operations told Blaze News that Ballard was the only operative who ever "practiced" with women or sent explicit text messages to them in connection with a couples ruse. O.U.R. did not return a request for comment seeking clarification of these issues."

Through these couples ruses, both in the office and in the field, Ballard eventually engaged in sexual contact with some women and propositioned others, the women told Blaze News. "As far as physical [touching], he made it pretty clear that really the only thing that was not going to be considered, if need be, during an op was kissing on the lips," one woman said. "Everything else was pretty much a go and, honestly, more than just a go; it's something that I should anticipate and be prepared to make happen for the sake of the act."

Also from the GB article:
"Another woman claimed that, while on a mission, she and Ballard participated in several "sexual acts with the exception of actual penetration." She also stated that their sexual contact ended at the end of the mission.

Other women mentioned engaging in sexual acts and being in various states of undress with Ballard while on a mission, sometimes even while at their private accommodations when no one else was around. According to the women, Ballard would argue that they had to maintain the appearance of a romantic relationship at all times during a mission because suspicious traffickers might be surveilling them at any moment.

Ballard denied that he engaged in any physical contact beyond "hand-holding, arms around shoulders, stuff like that." He also alleged that some female operatives wanted to kiss him during a mission to put on a more convincing performance, but he always refused. "There's no reason to do it. It's not appropriate," he claimed he would tell them.

A source familiar with O.U.R. operations denied that O.U.R. would ever have approved of any sexual contact between couples ruse partners."

What a boy scout Tim makes himself out to be. They wanted to kiss more than I did but I said no LOL. Sure Tim.

And boy if this can be proven it will be a bad day for Tim. The outlet releasing this is owned by a long time friend of Tim and someone who ran the Nazarene fund and Glenn Beck kicked him out as CEO. Vice news going against Tim is one thing, this is Glenn Beck believing what he's seen. Glenn was defending Tim up until a short time ago so nobody can say Glen is trying to take Tim out. Perhaps the women are but they seem to be doing a great job at convincing Tim's friends that Tims dirty. Smoke smoke everywhere, the fire is coming...

"Despite these sometimes severe aftereffects, some of the women still hesitated to report Ballard's alleged behavior to those at O.U.R. or to others in their communities for fear of retribution. "He has threatened to destroy our lives if we speak out," one woman said.

"I have 1,000 bricks, and you only have one," Ballard allegedly warned another after she confronted him about his alleged behavior, she told Blaze News.

But their fear is not limited to Ballard or to his supposed allies at O.U.R. Many women also expressed to Blaze News a deep concern about the potential fallout of these accusations from the media and the public at large."

I'm not willing to jump on the anti TB bandwagon yet. Newsflash: people can lie. (Even women!) The most important question you have to ask yourself when a flurry of allegations come out against a person is: why now?