Modern demonic possession

[3Nephi18:25]

I recommend the books of Doug Mendenhall (available online for free) and Robert Bruce to understand the evil of our times and what can be done about it.

[investigator]

Here is a link to Doug's book Conquering Spiritual Evil...

https://conqueringspiritualevil.info/wp ... mplete.pdf

[larsenb]

I believe Jonathan Cahn is correct, and his book, "The Return of the Gods" is on my list of future reads.

I liked his Harbinger, but he got 9/11 wrong in some of ideas of who was behind it. I had some email exchanges with him and he conceded that I was probably right and said something like he was not hard-and-fast about what he had written.

It's great that he can be honest.

Yes, I was impressed by his candor and honesty on that issue.

[larsenb]

FWIW...



Reptilian PCR Test: The Easiest Way To Control People To Do Anything – In The Same Way Egyptians Built The Pyramids
Sunday, April 18, 2021 16:23

Why is this brutal, painful, aggressive false test, which gets in people’s noses, breaking the brain barrier? And then I remembered…
When I read about the hieroglyphs of Hatchepsout Temple a couple of years ago, I met this method there.
It was an ancient Egyptian method, but I think the Egyptians also took it from “someone”, because this kind of intervention, the violation of the epithelial dam through the nose, activates the panic center and the fear center in people.
This is scientifically called a reptilian brainstorm, which is responsible for the development of fear, between other things.

Well, in ancient Egypt, the slaves who were captured to build the pyramids, before that, were subjected to this intervention, as they could modify the “reptilian” nerve of the human brain, and if they did the “PCR test” well, the person he becomes in a state of fear of death, so he is an obedient, influential, perfect slave in the deadly work of pyramid building (this is also a nice little illuminati symbol ).
This has now become part of the method of intimidation in the media and politics. People are afraid of the PCR test, the + or – result is crucial, and meanwhile, this fear becomes permanent psychosis if the PCR test is used to violate the pituitary epithelium in front of the reptilian brainstem.
And then, the intimidated people are afraid and become obedient, wears the mask, and does not dare to bounce back, even if his mother or child is scraped in front of him in a black corpse bag after being killed according to protocol.
There is a whole series of this on the wall of the great temple of Thebes, with an exact description of how to enslave slaves to obedience with fear.
https://m.beforeitsnews.com/prophecy/20 ... 20425.html

Interesting post and idea.

[Fred]

Everyone should watch the new movie, Nefarious. Even better yet buy the DVD and watch all of the bonus content wherein they document all of the things that the dark side did to stop the production of the movie. It is not a horror movie. It is designed to awaken people to the fact that demonic possession is a real thing. There is no bad language or sexual content. The final scene is quite thematically intense (capital punishment). Highly recommend. Link below...


https://www.amazon.com/Nefarious-Sean-P ... 023&sr=8-1

After reading this post I figured I would look for the video. Found it at Walmart. I haven't watched the extras, but when the atheist shrink got possessed after the execution, and the pistol under his chin misfired after he asked God to help him, was a clincher.

[TheDuke]

I personally don't believe in demonic possession, well unless you invite the spirit into your body that is. So, I feel it is possible and many dabble there. But for illnesses, I don't accept it as "literal", perhaps "figurative". I mean it would make a mockery of this life and pre-mortal promises if you could, unnaturally be taken over without you giving your will. I'm not sure what giving your will would be, drugs? rituals?

But, for innocent, but ill people, it seems it must be an issue placed to overcome or learn from, given I accept long-term eternal progression, it isn't obvious that some lives are for learning and not producing.

Just my opinion based on understanding the purpose of this mortality. But not by revelation as I don't have or know any family or any friends involved. I do know several with illnesses and given most are managed with prescription drugs, it doesn't seem like demons but some illness between their mind/spirit and body interface?

[Fred]

I personally don't believe in demonic possession, well unless you invite the spirit into your body that is. So, I feel it is possible and many dabble there. But for illnesses, I don't accept it as "literal", perhaps "figurative". I mean it would make a mockery of this life and pre-mortal promises if you could, unnaturally be taken over without you giving your will. I'm not sure what giving your will would be, drugs? rituals?

But, for innocent, but ill people, it seems it must be an issue placed to overcome or learn from, given I accept long-term eternal progression, it isn't obvious that some lives are for learning and not producing.

Just my opinion based on understanding the purpose of this mortality. But not by revelation as I don't have or know any family or any friends involved. I do know several with illnesses and given most are managed with prescription drugs, it doesn't seem like demons but some illness between their mind/spirit and body interface?

In the movie, the shrink invited him in on the promise that he would be able to talk with the man whose body was possessed. So you could be right about requiring an invitation. Considering the number of people that experiment with an Ouija board, witchcraft, secret societies, etc, my guess would be that many have issued the invitation.

[harakim]

Does anyone else feel that the proliferation of mental and emotional issues in society and in the Church may be because of a failure to fight onslaught from the devil and his followers? Granted, a lot of it is doubtless due to lack of resiliency and competency, but allowing for that, it seems to me that the incidence and scope of the issue is more than competency or resiliency alone can account for.

My wife and I are both high school teachers. My wife has a new student with Tourette's, and she had her first episode with tics. She said her eyes seemed like they weren't her own, she said strange things (like that she hated some person no one knew, said over and over), and her limbs contorted into seemingly impossible twists. She said that she seemed scared while it was happening, and looked like she realized she wasn't in control of her body. The other students were troopers and tried not to stare or make it worse than it was, but were also scared (they had been briefed on it because the girl also had a short-lived service dog that didn't work out in a school setting).

I had a student with Tourette's once while I was also serving as her bishop. Her tics were milder than this, but once out of nowhere her leg shot up and over her head and got stuck there. She never fooled around, and she asked for help getting her leg unstuck (a girl helped her, and took her to the nurse because she was still jerking and twitching ).

How my wife described it sounded a lot like the contortions at the Joseph Knight home at the beginning of History of the Church (possession that was cast out and rebuked). Her description of her eyes and voice and seeming helplessness over what was happening were hair-raising.

Thoughts?

This will probably be a less helpful ramble but here it is.

I believe in possession, but I can also think of other explanations. Things like schizophrenia, bipolar and borderline are more easily explained and make more sense to me than all the complex psychological theories and hundreds of different diagnoses. I'm saying this having quite a bit of experience with borderline personality disorder.

I once played games with a Satanist. I won't get into all the details, but I think they were actually all Satanists and it was pretty freaky. However, he worked at a home for people with psychological problems and he said that the best thing you can do when they start freaking out is have them focus on their five senses. Ask them what they taste, smell, feel, etc. I have thought about this over the years and it actually has helped me stay present. I think if you spent too much time dwelling on thoughts and less time present, evil spirits can enter your mind and distort your thoughts.

Why would you let a demon enter your body? Well, you wouldn't know that they were, first of all. Second, if you let yourself rage, then you can cause people to submit to you in fear. That works in a lot of situations like bullying, parenting, with older weaker people or with a spouse or business partner. They are kind of stuck with you so you can use fear to control them. Satan runs his kingdom as a pyramid of fear. That all adds up. I believe heaven is run on love and truth. Whichever one you find yourself using are spirits your choosing to let shape your thoughts.

I could see this escalating to full blown possession, but I think some horrific things would have to happen to someone (like SRA) before they would let themselves be possessed.

[Niemand]

I personally don't believe in demonic possession, well unless you invite the spirit into your body that is.

I don't think they necessarily do so consciously but certain things such as drug abuse, alcoholism, sexual acts (including involuntary abuse/rape), religious practices and so on open one up to it.

[Refraction75]

My experience has been that possession is absolutely real!

You can read about my experience with it on another thread. It happened on my lds mission to Brazil.

I don't care to recap the experience more than I have to. It still gives me chills when I think about it. And that was over 27 years ago!

I think it is ludicrous to those that read it happening in Christ time and think this it doesn't happen in our day....

If you at all had an experience with it you would never say or believe those things....

I believe this is everywhere...hidden and also in plain sight but has been often explained away ad mental disorders.

The hidden stuff is ritualistic and happens in controlled environments not accessed by the public.

At least that is what I learned from talking to those that did that sort of thing. I spoke with several people that wanted to stop attending these things. But we're also so addicted to it. They couldn't leave it even though they knew it was evil and wrong.

In Brazil they have certain sexual.drugs and blood rituals that are performed in "Macumba". Voodoo or black magic.

It originated from the slaves that were brought over from Africa to Brazil.

People that do this will often film themselves while possession is taking place because the individual typically remembers nothing during the possession.

[Maroriginal1]

In a temple interview I had the stake counselor ask me if I thought mental illness is from possession based on my work experience in mental health. Not a question I expected. I still stand by my comment that I believe possession exists, but you have to look at when the symptoms started to understand if the person invited it in. I don’t believe all mental illness is possession. The brain is quite fragile. There’s been a lot of research coming out that conditions such as ticks, hallucinations, paranoia, etc are caused by an immune reaction. The condition PANDAS looks just like Tourette’s syndrome but is caused by an autoimmune inflammation of a section of the brain after strep throat. To see somebody with this condition you’d think they are possessed. I’ve seen mental illness symptoms increase after illnesses and immunizations multiple times.

I think a big clue to discern is in the description at the garden of Eden. That the children of Eve have the ability to “crush his head”. This is in direct reference to Satans attempt to possess the bodies of her children. Although this has reference to the savior overcoming Satan, I also believe it applies to all of us. If we are not choosing to actively crush his influence out of our life we leave ourselves vulnerable to possession.

[3Nephi18:25]

Because of the degree of sin we’ve collectively engaged in, we’ve allowed more from hell to come up here wherein we see and experience awful things like possessions on a more frequent basis. Please look up the books by Doug Mendenhall and Robert Bruce. Doug’s books are available for free in pdf forms. We can learn to cast out for ourselves and protect our homes and littles.

[Wolfwoman]

I'm reading Return of the Gods right now and it's quite good.

The supernatural elements of the gospel (which is to say, the gospel itself) have been shunned by modern LDS tradition. Remember when RMN dismissed the Christmas star a few years ago?

We don't heal the sick. We say things like "heal this person, if it be thy will." Which is another way to say "I don't have any faith in miracles so if this person isn't healed, which I know they won't be, at least I can tell myself that it was the will of the Lord that she died a long, slow, and painful death."

RMN dismissed the Christmas star? I don’t remember that!

[larsenb]

In a temple interview I had the stake counselor ask me if I thought mental illness is from possession based on my work experience in mental health. Not a question I expected. I still stand by my comment that I believe possession exists, but you have to look at when the symptoms started to understand if the person invited it in. I don’t believe all mental illness is possession. The brain is quite fragile. There’s been a lot of research coming out that conditions such as ticks, hallucinations, paranoia, etc are caused by an immune reaction. The condition PANDAS looks just like Tourette’s syndrome but is caused by an autoimmune inflammation of a section of the brain after strep throat. To see somebody with this condition you’d think they are possessed. I’ve seen mental illness symptoms increase after illnesses and immunizations multiple times.

I think a big clue to discern is in the description at the garden of Eden. That the children of Eve have the ability to “crush his head”. This is in direct reference to Satans attempt to possess the bodies of her children. Although this has reference to the savior overcoming Satan, I also believe it applies to all of us. If we are not choosing to actively crush his influence out of our life we leave ourselves vulnerable to possession.

My wife worked on the closed ward of the UofU psych department, and encountered one female patient who exhibited all the features of possession. Even the most wizened Psych doctors could see no other explanation. The patient was exceedingly 'animalistic' in her behavior, exhibiting gross sexual acting-out and bizarre avidity for food. She would not respond to any medications, so they finally put her in 4-point restrains, with tube feeding and catheters.

After about a week or so in the restraints, etc., all of a sudden she woke up to her normal self, and had no memory of her former condition; yet was shocked that she had gained so much weight (from the previous gluttony). It was as if, the 'demon' possessing her finally got bored with a body in complete constraints, and move on.

[Ebenezer]

I'm reading Return of the Gods right now and it's quite good.

The supernatural elements of the gospel (which is to say, the gospel itself) have been shunned by modern LDS tradition. Remember when RMN dismissed the Christmas star a few years ago?

We don't heal the sick. We say things like "heal this person, if it be thy will." Which is another way to say "I don't have any faith in miracles so if this person isn't healed, which I know they won't be, at least I can tell myself that it was the will of the Lord that she died a long, slow, and painful death."

RMN dismissed the Christmas star? I don’t remember that!

I should have been more specific. He dismissed the 2020 "Christmas" star. He said:

“How fitting that astronomers and scientists are predicting tonight’s appearance of a ‘Christmas star,’ formed by the great conjunction of Saturn and Jupiter, a rare event not seen in nearly 400 years. While we don’t need to ascribe any special meaning to the actual phenomenon, tonight’s Christmas star will undoubtedly draw our minds and hearts to the original star that appeared in the heavens to mark the birth of our Savior Jesus Christ."

[Refraction75]

In a temple interview I had the stake counselor ask me if I thought mental illness is from possession based on my work experience in mental health. Not a question I expected. I still stand by my comment that I believe possession exists, but you have to look at when the symptoms started to understand if the person invited it in. I don’t believe all mental illness is possession. The brain is quite fragile. There’s been a lot of research coming out that conditions such as ticks, hallucinations, paranoia, etc are caused by an immune reaction. The condition PANDAS looks just like Tourette’s syndrome but is caused by an autoimmune inflammation of a section of the brain after strep throat. To see somebody with this condition you’d think they are possessed. I’ve seen mental illness symptoms increase after illnesses and immunizations multiple times.

I think a big clue to discern is in the description at the garden of Eden. That the children of Eve have the ability to “crush his head”. This is in direct reference to Satans attempt to possess the bodies of her children. Although this has reference to the savior overcoming Satan, I also believe it applies to all of us. If we are not choosing to actively crush his influence out of our life we leave ourselves vulnerable to possession.

My wife worked on the closed ward of the UofU psych department, and encountered one female patient who exhibited all the features of possession. Even the most wizened Psych doctors could see no other explanation. The patient was exceedingly 'animalistic' in her behavior, exhibiting gross sexual acting-out and bizarre avidity for food. She would not respond to any medications, so they finally put her in 4-point restrains, with tube feeding and catheters.

After about a week or so in the restraints, etc., all of a sudden she woke up to her normal self, and had no memory of her former condition; yet was shocked that she had gained so much weight (from the previous gluttony). It was as if, the 'demon' possessing her finally got bored with a body in complete constraints, and move on.

Your wife's experience is very similar to what I experienced in Brazil. Except she didn't eat for 5 days and didn't drink water for two. She was quiet and calm until we gave the blessing. Then all hell broke loose...

[investigator]

Here is a link to Doug's book Conquering Spiritual Evil...

https://conqueringspiritualevil.info/wp ... mplete.pdf

Hard copies of Doug Mendenhall’s books are again available here.

https://www.blurb.com/b/11719717-conqu ... volume-one

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[Thinker]

… I also believe it applies to all of us. If we are not choosing to actively crush his influence out of our life we leave ourselves vulnerable to possession.

Yeah, I was thinking similarly. If the spirit world is here - around us, then maybe we can be influenced by various types of spirits. So it makes sense to be actively furnishing our mental home with godliness as much as possible and learn to handle positives and negatives as well as possible.

[Peeps]

In a temple interview I had the stake counselor ask me if I thought mental illness is from possession based on my work experience in mental health. Not a question I expected. I still stand by my comment that I believe possession exists, but you have to look at when the symptoms started to understand if the person invited it in. I don’t believe all mental illness is possession. The brain is quite fragile. There’s been a lot of research coming out that conditions such as ticks, hallucinations, paranoia, etc are caused by an immune reaction. The condition PANDAS looks just like Tourette’s syndrome but is caused by an autoimmune inflammation of a section of the brain after strep throat. To see somebody with this condition you’d think they are possessed. I’ve seen mental illness symptoms increase after illnesses and immunizations multiple times.

I think a big clue to discern is in the description at the garden of Eden. That the children of Eve have the ability to “crush his head”. This is in direct reference to Satans attempt to possess the bodies of her children. Although this has reference to the savior overcoming Satan, I also believe it applies to all of us. If we are not choosing to actively crush his influence out of our life we leave ourselves vulnerable to possession.

My wife worked on the closed ward of the UofU psych department, and encountered one female patient who exhibited all the features of possession. Even the most wizened Psych doctors could see no other explanation. The patient was exceedingly 'animalistic' in her behavior, exhibiting gross sexual acting-out and bizarre avidity for food. She would not respond to any medications, so they finally put her in 4-point restrains, with tube feeding and catheters.

After about a week or so in the restraints, etc., all of a sudden she woke up to her normal self, and had no memory of her former condition; yet was shocked that she had gained so much weight (from the previous gluttony). It was as if, the 'demon' possessing her finally got bored with a body in complete constraints, and move on.

That story reminded me of this video I watched about a guy who's mother was likely possessed by this same kind of demon(s).

[logonbump]

Prepared lecture on the very subject by our own Emily XX!
One hour, as delivered to an RLDS audience