Modern demonic possession

[Rubicon]

Does anyone else feel that the proliferation of mental and emotional issues in society and in the Church may be because of a failure to fight onslaught from the devil and his followers? Granted, a lot of it is doubtless due to lack of resiliency and competency, but allowing for that, it seems to me that the incidence and scope of the issue is more than competency or resiliency alone can account for.

My wife and I are both high school teachers. My wife has a new student with Tourette's, and she had her first episode with tics. She said her eyes seemed like they weren't her own, she said strange things (like that she hated some person no one knew, said over and over), and her limbs contorted into seemingly impossible twists. She said that she seemed scared while it was happening, and looked like she realized she wasn't in control of her body. The other students were troopers and tried not to stare or make it worse than it was, but were also scared (they had been briefed on it because the girl also had a short-lived service dog that didn't work out in a school setting).

I had a student with Tourette's once while I was also serving as her bishop. Her tics were milder than this, but once out of nowhere her leg shot up and over her head and got stuck there. She never fooled around, and she asked for help getting her leg unstuck (a girl helped her, and took her to the nurse because she was still jerking and twitching ).

How my wife described it sounded a lot like the contortions at the Joseph Knight home at the beginning of History of the Church (possession that was cast out and rebuked). Her description of her eyes and voice and seeming helplessness over what was happening were hair-raising.

Thoughts?

[BuriedTartaria]

Jonathan Cahn (Messianic Jew, I believe) argues the United States was possessed. He says when we pulled God out of our schools, communities and other aspects of life, those some areas were left empty and an evil spirit possessed them.

[Bjǫrnúlfr]

Does anyone else feel that the proliferation of mental and emotional issues in society and in the Church may be because of a failure to fight onslaught from the devil and his followers? Granted, a lot of it is doubtless due to lack of resiliency and competency, but allowing for that, it seems to me that the incidence and scope of the issue is more than competency or resiliency alone can account for.

My wife and I are both high school teachers. My wife has a new student with Tourette's, and she had her first episode with tics. She said her eyes seemed like they weren't her own, she said strange things (like that she hated some person no one knew, said over and over), and her limbs contorted into seemingly impossible twists. She said that she seemed scared while it was happening, and looked like she realized she wasn't in control of her body. The other students were troopers and tried not to stare or make it worse than it was, but were also scared (they had been briefed on it because the girl also had a short-lived service dog that didn't work out in a school setting).

I had a student with Tourette's once while I was also serving as her bishop. Her tics were milder than this, but once out of nowhere her leg shot up and over her head and got stuck there. She never fooled around, and she asked for help getting her leg unstuck (a girl helped her, and took her to the nurse because she was still jerking and twitching ).

How my wife described it sounded a lot like the contortions at the Joseph Knight home at the beginning of History of the Church (possession that was cast out and rebuked). Her description of her eyes and voice and seeming helplessness over what was happening were hair-raising.

Thoughts?

I think demonic influence and in some cases outright possession is all too real and a major contributor to many of the “mental health issues” people face.

The scriptures are full of examples of demonic influence and outright possession, but members of the church today generally don’t seem to believe that this is still as common today as it was anciently, if not more so. My observation is that the church appears to have largely lost the ability to discern spirits, let alone cast them out. Instead the prescribed remedy is almost always counseling and/or medication.

[Peeps]

Jonathan Cahn (Messianic Jew, I believe) argues the United States was possessed. He says when we pulled God out of our schools, communities and other aspects of life, those some areas were left empty and an evil spirit possessed them.

I believe Jonathan Cahn is correct, and his book, "The Return of the Gods" is on my list of future reads.

[Rubicon]

I think that many modern Mormons in general don't believe in the supernatural. They believe in it when it is safely in the distant past, but not today in a modern age of science. Many are especially sensitive to ridicule and disdain from "enlightened" modern society.

[Robin Hood]

Rumpelstiltskin is the leading authority on this subject.
I hope he joins this thread.

[Seed Starter]

Does anyone else feel that the proliferation of mental and emotional issues in society and in the Church may be because of a failure to fight onslaught from the devil and his followers? Granted, a lot of it is doubtless due to lack of resiliency and competency, but allowing for that, it seems to me that the incidence and scope of the issue is more than competency or resiliency alone can account for.

My wife and I are both high school teachers. My wife has a new student with Tourette's, and she had her first episode with tics. She said her eyes seemed like they weren't her own, she said strange things (like that she hated some person no one knew, said over and over), and her limbs contorted into seemingly impossible twists. She said that she seemed scared while it was happening, and looked like she realized she wasn't in control of her body. The other students were troopers and tried not to stare or make it worse than it was, but were also scared (they had been briefed on it because the girl also had a short-lived service dog that didn't work out in a school setting).

I had a student with Tourette's once while I was also serving as her bishop. Her tics were milder than this, but once out of nowhere her leg shot up and over her head and got stuck there. She never fooled around, and she asked for help getting her leg unstuck (a girl helped her, and took her to the nurse because she was still jerking and twitching ).

How my wife described it sounded a lot like the contortions at the Joseph Knight home at the beginning of History of the Church (possession that was cast out and rebuked). Her description of her eyes and voice and seeming helplessness over what was happening were hair-raising.

Thoughts?

I think demonic influence and in some cases outright possession is all too real and a major contributor to many of the “mental health issues” people face.

The scriptures are full of examples of demonic influence and outright possession, but members of the church today generally don’t seem to believe that this is still as common today as it was anciently, if not more so. My observation is that the church appears to have largely lost the ability to discern spirits, let alone cast them out. Instead the prescribed remedy is almost always counseling and/or medication.

I think some medication and some counseling may even give evil spirits more access to the victim. I just wonder how these things get access to young people, particularly children. I always kind of assumed some agency must be exercised to allow access but I no longer believe this. In answer to the first question. Yes, there is more of this interference taking place.

[Seed Starter]

I think that many modern Mormons in general don't believe in the supernatural. They believe in it when it is safely in the distant past, but not today in a modern age of science. Many are especially sensitive to ridicule and disdain from "enlightened" modern society.

I agree. I don't often hear people pray for spiritual safety or defense from the demonic like they do when it comes to obvious physical protection. I assume if they saw something supernatural they would get serious about praying for help. If I were the king of all liars I would try to keep a lower profile so I didn't disrupt their faith in science. Being loud about it would raise people's defenses. I think we should all be proactive.

[ransomme]

It happens, and some are more susceptible than others.

[Niemand]

I know someone with really bad tics. We have to ignore them most of the time because it is the only way to get on with things. He hits himself among other things. It's a shame because he's one of the nicest folk I know.

[Durzan]

Tourettes can be developed after brain damage, and can be passed on genetically, meaning that there is likely a physical cause behind most cases. That being said, IF demonic possession is indeed a literal thing (something I rather doubt), it's more likely that demons would mimic the effects of mental illness than mental illness would mimic the effects of demonic possession.

[Niemand]

I believe demons pick on those who are most vulnerable such as children and those who are ill (physically, mentally or spiritually)

[Fred]

Emily has first hand experience with this. Perhaps she will comment.

[Bjǫrnúlfr]

Does anyone else feel that the proliferation of mental and emotional issues in society and in the Church may be because of a failure to fight onslaught from the devil and his followers? Granted, a lot of it is doubtless due to lack of resiliency and competency, but allowing for that, it seems to me that the incidence and scope of the issue is more than competency or resiliency alone can account for.

My wife and I are both high school teachers. My wife has a new student with Tourette's, and she had her first episode with tics. She said her eyes seemed like they weren't her own, she said strange things (like that she hated some person no one knew, said over and over), and her limbs contorted into seemingly impossible twists. She said that she seemed scared while it was happening, and looked like she realized she wasn't in control of her body. The other students were troopers and tried not to stare or make it worse than it was, but were also scared (they had been briefed on it because the girl also had a short-lived service dog that didn't work out in a school setting).

I had a student with Tourette's once while I was also serving as her bishop. Her tics were milder than this, but once out of nowhere her leg shot up and over her head and got stuck there. She never fooled around, and she asked for help getting her leg unstuck (a girl helped her, and took her to the nurse because she was still jerking and twitching ).

How my wife described it sounded a lot like the contortions at the Joseph Knight home at the beginning of History of the Church (possession that was cast out and rebuked). Her description of her eyes and voice and seeming helplessness over what was happening were hair-raising.

Thoughts?

I think demonic influence and in some cases outright possession is all too real and a major contributor to many of the “mental health issues” people face.

The scriptures are full of examples of demonic influence and outright possession, but members of the church today generally don’t seem to believe that this is still as common today as it was anciently, if not more so. My observation is that the church appears to have largely lost the ability to discern spirits, let alone cast them out. Instead the prescribed remedy is almost always counseling and/or medication.

I think some medication and some counseling may even give evil spirits more access to the victim. I just wonder how these things get access to young people, particularly children. I always kind of assumed some agency must be exercised to allow access but I no longer believe this. In answer to the first question. Yes, there is more of this interference taking place.

In the New Testament Jesus cast an evil spirit out of a young man whose father stated that it had entered him while he was still a child. I think the types of things children are exposed to is a factor in evil spirits influencing them and even possessing them.

[Rubicon]

Several have commented on children. While I believe that children generally have protection from this, it is undeniable that it also happens with children. As was pointed out, even the NT contains instances where children were afflicted from the beginning.

I agree that generally the devil and his followers don't want to draw attention to themselves and scare people with displays like in the past, so I think that usually it takes the form in our day of the more subtle mental health breakdowns. They are just so prevalent and rampant, that I think satanic influence is alive and well in (usually) a different form than the in-your-face NT displays.

Although these still happen. Demons hate us and crave the physical experience they are denied, so they will do that if and when they are able as well.

[Ebenezer]

I'm reading Return of the Gods right now and it's quite good.

The supernatural elements of the gospel (which is to say, the gospel itself) have been shunned by modern LDS tradition. Remember when RMN dismissed the Christmas star a few years ago?

We don't heal the sick. We say things like "heal this person, if it be thy will." Which is another way to say "I don't have any faith in miracles so if this person isn't healed, which I know they won't be, at least I can tell myself that it was the will of the Lord that she died a long, slow, and painful death."

[1775peasant]

Does anyone else feel that the proliferation of mental and emotional issues in society and in the Church may be because of a failure to fight onslaught from the devil and his followers? Granted, a lot of it is doubtless due to lack of resiliency and competency, but allowing for that, it seems to me that the incidence and scope of the issue is more than competency or resiliency alone can account for.

My wife and I are both high school teachers. My wife has a new student with Tourette's, and she had her first episode with tics. She said her eyes seemed like they weren't her own, she said strange things (like that she hated some person no one knew, said over and over), and her limbs contorted into seemingly impossible twists. She said that she seemed scared while it was happening, and looked like she realized she wasn't in control of her body. The other students were troopers and tried not to stare or make it worse than it was, but were also scared (they had been briefed on it because the girl also had a short-lived service dog that didn't work out in a school setting).

I had a student with Tourette's once while I was also serving as her bishop. Her tics were milder than this, but once out of nowhere her leg shot up and over her head and got stuck there. She never fooled around, and she asked for help getting her leg unstuck (a girl helped her, and took her to the nurse because she was still jerking and twitching ).

How my wife described it sounded a lot like the contortions at the Joseph Knight home at the beginning of History of the Church (possession that was cast out and rebuked). Her description of her eyes and voice and seeming helplessness over what was happening were hair-raising.

Thoughts?

I think demonic influence and in some cases outright possession is all too real and a major contributor to many of the “mental health issues” people face.

The scriptures are full of examples of demonic influence and outright possession, but members of the church today generally don’t seem to believe that this is still as common today as it was anciently, if not more so. My observation is that the church appears to have largely lost the ability to discern spirits, let alone cast them out. Instead the prescribed remedy is almost always counseling and/or medication.

I think some medication and some counseling may even give evil spirits more access to the victim. I just wonder how these things get access to young people, particularly children. I always kind of assumed some agency must be exercised to allow access but I no longer believe this. In answer to the first question. Yes, there is more of this interference taking place.

"I think some medication"

some may think this is completely void of fact or evidence? but there are 1000s of vids that show similar events taking place in the lives of children.........before & after.........receiving any number of....Childhood V_ccines.......

after all we have recently gone through with the scamdemic........there's no doubt in my mind, that most if not all modern day V_x's have a Satanic element

[investigator]

Everyone should watch the new movie, Nefarious. Even better yet buy the DVD and watch all of the bonus content wherein they document all of the things that the dark side did to stop the production of the movie. It is not a horror movie. It is designed to awaken people to the fact that demonic possession is a real thing. There is no bad language or sexual content. The final scene is quite thematically intense (capital punishment). Highly recommend. Link below...


https://www.amazon.com/Nefarious-Sean-P ... 023&sr=8-1

[Niemand]

Children have some degree of free will but they are also under the dominion of others. They tend to be able to see things that adults can't but also not make certain decisions for themselves.

[LDS Physician]

Jonathan Cahn (Messianic Jew, I believe) argues the United States was possessed. He says when we pulled God out of our schools, communities and other aspects of life, those some areas were left empty and an evil spirit possessed them.

I believe Jonathan Cahn is correct, and his book, "The Return of the Gods" is on my list of future reads.

This was worth the read: interesting.

[Robin Hood]

Children have some degree of free will but they are also under the dominion of others. They tend to be able to see things that adults can't but also not make certain decisions for themselves.

My 5 year old grandson said to me the other day, "maybe all this is really just a dream".

[larsenb]

Jonathan Cahn (Messianic Jew, I believe) argues the United States was possessed. He says when we pulled God out of our schools, communities and other aspects of life, those some areas were left empty and an evil spirit possessed them.

I believe Jonathan Cahn is correct, and his book, "The Return of the Gods" is on my list of future reads.

I liked his Harbinger, but he got 9/11 wrong in some of ideas of who was behind it. I had some email exchanges with him and he conceded that I was probably right and said something like he was not hard-and-fast about what he had written.

[Peeps]

Jonathan Cahn (Messianic Jew, I believe) argues the United States was possessed. He says when we pulled God out of our schools, communities and other aspects of life, those some areas were left empty and an evil spirit possessed them.

I believe Jonathan Cahn is correct, and his book, "The Return of the Gods" is on my list of future reads.

I liked his Harbinger, but he got 9/11 wrong in some of ideas of who was behind it. I had some email exchanges with him and he conceded that I was probably right and said something like he was not hard-and-fast about what he had written.

It's great that he can be honest.

[Peeps]

I think demonic influence and in some cases outright possession is all too real and a major contributor to many of the “mental health issues” people face.

The scriptures are full of examples of demonic influence and outright possession, but members of the church today generally don’t seem to believe that this is still as common today as it was anciently, if not more so. My observation is that the church appears to have largely lost the ability to discern spirits, let alone cast them out. Instead the prescribed remedy is almost always counseling and/or medication.

I think some medication and some counseling may even give evil spirits more access to the victim. I just wonder how these things get access to young people, particularly children. I always kind of assumed some agency must be exercised to allow access but I no longer believe this. In answer to the first question. Yes, there is more of this interference taking place.

"I think some medication"

some may think this is completely void of fact or evidence? but there are 1000s of vids that show similar events taking place in the lives of children.........before & after.........receiving any number of....Childhood V_ccines.......

after all we have recently gone through with the scamdemic........there's no doubt in my mind, that most if not all modern day V_x's have a Satanic element

Yes, "eliminate the soul with medicine."


The covid vaccines were likely repurposed funvaxx, which was designed to subdue the VMAT2 gene, or the "God Gene," and this 5min 46sec excerpt of this 2005 Pentagon presentation shows it... The only debunking that has been done, is to prove it wasn't Bill Gates speaking. But this is very likely where MERS (Middle Eastern Respiratory Syndrome) came from. And probably why PCR tests were used, they were checking to see who had the VMAT2 gene, not covid.

[Peeps]

FWIW...



Reptilian PCR Test: The Easiest Way To Control People To Do Anything – In The Same Way Egyptians Built The Pyramids
Sunday, April 18, 2021 16:23

Why is this brutal, painful, aggressive false test, which gets in people’s noses, breaking the brain barrier? And then I remembered…
When I read about the hieroglyphs of Hatchepsout Temple a couple of years ago, I met this method there.
It was an ancient Egyptian method, but I think the Egyptians also took it from “someone”, because this kind of intervention, the violation of the epithelial dam through the nose, activates the panic center and the fear center in people.
This is scientifically called a reptilian brainstorm, which is responsible for the development of fear, between other things.

Well, in ancient Egypt, the slaves who were captured to build the pyramids, before that, were subjected to this intervention, as they could modify the “reptilian” nerve of the human brain, and if they did the “PCR test” well, the person he becomes in a state of fear of death, so he is an obedient, influential, perfect slave in the deadly work of pyramid building (this is also a nice little illuminati symbol ).
This has now become part of the method of intimidation in the media and politics. People are afraid of the PCR test, the + or – result is crucial, and meanwhile, this fear becomes permanent psychosis if the PCR test is used to violate the pituitary epithelium in front of the reptilian brainstem.
And then, the intimidated people are afraid and become obedient, wears the mask, and does not dare to bounce back, even if his mother or child is scraped in front of him in a black corpse bag after being killed according to protocol.
There is a whole series of this on the wall of the great temple of Thebes, with an exact description of how to enslave slaves to obedience with fear.
https://m.beforeitsnews.com/prophecy/20 ... 20425.html