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Re: Do we use scripture to put God in a box?
Posted: September 16th, 2023, 10:23 am
by nightlight
Reluctant Watchman wrote: ↑September 16th, 2023, 9:00 am
nightlight wrote: ↑September 16th, 2023, 7:59 am
Reluctant Watchman wrote: ↑September 15th, 2023, 5:14 pm
How many different ways can the theologies in the scriptures be interpreted? How many times have individual passages of scripture been abused or twisted to strengthen an unfounded principle? It happens all the time.
I could easily go through the BoM and pick a single verse, and then state that progression does not happen after this life. I've had people tell me this and they use the BoM as their reference.
Or, look at how people even here on the forum justify a trinitarian theology based on their viewpoint of the BoM...
Or how we degrade and demean women.
I could go on and on.
You could go on and on because your logic is circular
The scriptures may have been written by a man, but you'd know nothing about "eternal progression" if you hadn't read the words of a man who wrote them down.......so..............
Degrade and demean women?????
Women are not meant to lead or govern.
People who put women in positions of leadership and governance are the ones demeaning women.
How is my logic circular? To suggest that scripture is perfect is idolatry.
And yes, I do believe there is a large amount of truth in them, and that the Lord loves it when we read them. But, what about the person in a distant land that has heard nothing of Jesus? I’m hearing stories of these people having personal encounters with Christ and angels. They are being taught by the Lord Himself. No middleman needed.
And I strongly disagree with your sentiments about women.
I never suggested it was perfect.
But it is a lot closer to perfect than anything out there. Enough so that a man could become perfected in Christ by following its words.
Women are not meant to govern. To pigeonhole a woman into a man's role is major part of the problems we see in the world today
Re: Do we use scripture to put God in a box?
Posted: September 16th, 2023, 10:34 am
by Reluctant Watchman
Shawn Henry wrote: ↑September 16th, 2023, 10:09 am
Reluctant Watchman wrote: ↑September 16th, 2023, 9:14 am
This is my fear that so many worship the scriptures.
Whether done correctly or not, the command is still to cling to the word of God. I know you want to make sure that we are all listening to the spirit as well and that's perfectly fine, but the only reason we know what the spirit is as to listen to the spirit is because of the word.
Yes, cling to the word of God… which can be far more expansive that a few written words.
Re: Do we use scripture to put God in a box?
Posted: September 16th, 2023, 2:36 pm
by Ymarsakar
The words of ymar come from ymar. If yall start writing stuff and saying these are the words of ymar, it did not come from me so it is not true.
Re: Do we use scripture to put God in a box?
Posted: September 17th, 2023, 4:04 pm
by Shawn Henry
Ymarsakar wrote: ↑September 16th, 2023, 2:36 pm
The words of ymar come from ymar. If yall start writing stuff and saying these are the words of ymar, it did not come from me so it is not true.
And if I cut and paste them from your words? Are they then your words?
Does God somehow not have the ability to oversee men as they cut and paste his exact words?
Re: Do we use scripture to put God in a box?
Posted: September 17th, 2023, 5:18 pm
by Ymarsakar
Shawn Henry wrote: ↑September 17th, 2023, 4:04 pm
Ymarsakar wrote: ↑September 16th, 2023, 2:36 pm
The words of ymar come from ymar. If yall start writing stuff and saying these are the words of ymar, it did not come from me so it is not true.
And if I cut and paste them from your words? Are they then your words?
Does God somehow not have the ability to oversee men as they cut and paste his exact words?
Out of context? Nope.
If it was hebrew the instruction was to not change a jot or dot. The hebrew or masoretes violated this a few times. Chabged deteronomy 32 and destroyed the true copies. Created vowel symbols.
Once translated it is definitely different.
Cut and paste ymar. Translate via google then say ymar is a dangerous qanon terrorist. Easy
Re: Do we use scripture to put God in a box?
Posted: September 17th, 2023, 6:15 pm
by Shawn Henry
Ymarsakar wrote: ↑September 17th, 2023, 5:18 pm
Shawn Henry wrote: ↑September 17th, 2023, 4:04 pm
Ymarsakar wrote: ↑September 16th, 2023, 2:36 pm
The words of ymar come from ymar. If yall start writing stuff and saying these are the words of ymar, it did not come from me so it is not true.
And if I cut and paste them from your words? Are they then your words?
Does God somehow not have the ability to oversee men as they cut and paste his exact words?
Out of context? Nope.
If it was hebrew the instruction was to not change a jot or dot. The hebrew or masoretes violated this a few times. Chabged deteronomy 32 and destroyed the true copies. Created vowel symbols.
Once translated it is definitely different.
Cut and paste ymar. Translate via google then say ymar is a dangerous qanon terrorist. Easy
Obviously, we agree that we always can get the errors of men, but if I can copy your words, then why can't the spirit come upon an individual so strongly as to assure he writes the exact words of Christ. I'm not saying a whole book or a whole chapter, but surely there are small segments we have that could easily be the exact words of Christ. Even a downtown corner channeler could get an exact hit every once in a while.