Re: Succession - Part 1
Posted: September 16th, 2023, 10:35 pm
I think at this point those who believe the Church lost its way are in the minority on this board. The seem to be a vocal majority of posters who don't think God's restored Church made it past Joseph's lifetime. (Which is ironic considering this scripture origin).Teancum1 wrote: ↑September 16th, 2023, 9:45 pmThe thread is addressing in part a specific question: when does a person lose priesthood authority/power?JLHPROF wrote: ↑September 16th, 2023, 5:01 pmEasily the most abused scripture by apostates. Anyone does anything they don't like, pull out D&C 121 and shout Amen.Teancum1 wrote: ↑September 10th, 2023, 8:02 am D&C 121: 34 Behold, there are many called, but few are chosen. And why are they not chosen?
35 Because their hearts are set so much upon the things of this world, and aspire to the honors of men, that they do not learn this one lesson—
36 That the rights of the priesthood are inseparably connected with the powers of heaven, and that the powers of heaven cannot be controlled nor handled only upon the principles of righteousness.
37 That they may be conferred upon us, it is true; but when we undertake to cover our sins, or to gratify our pride, our vain ambition, or to exercise control or dominion or compulsion upon the souls of the children of men, in any degree of unrighteousness, behold, the heavens withdraw themselves; the Spirit of the Lord is grieved; and when it is withdrawn, Amen to the priesthood or the authority of that man.
38 Behold, ere he is aware, he is left unto himself, to kick against the pricks, to persecute the saints, and to fight against God.
39 We have learned by sad experience that it is the nature and disposition of almost all men, as soon as they get a little authority, as they suppose, they will immediately begin to exercise unrighteous dominion.
40 Hence many are called, but few are chosen.
Amen to the priesthood of those men.
Your remark about multiple people (who you call apostate) on this thread referring to D&C 121 regarding a man losing his priesthood based on sins specifically listed therein appears insincere and childish.
1828 definition of apostate-
APOS'TATE, noun [Gr.]
One who has forsaken the church, sect or profession to which he before adhered. In its original sense, applied to one who has abandoned his religion; but correctly applied also to one who abandons a political or other party.
Can you please share where those of us on this thread have forsaken the church? It does not appear to me that most of us have abandoned our religion but are more concerned about how the church has evolved into something most of us could never imagine 5, 10, 20 or 40 years ago. We are actually advocating for a restoration of the restoration.
Is this scripture actually true that a man can lose his priesthood based on sinful behavior? Can the men who lead the church lose their power? It seems that the current leadership believes they can never lead anyone astray.
Best wishes.
There's so much anti-Joseph posting here and even more anti-Brighamite that I am quite comfortable saying there are many Church apostates posting.