The Lord declares at the beginning

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Re: The Lord declares at the beginning

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Shawn Henry wrote: September 5th, 2023, 3:12 pm We all know God knows from the end from the beginning, but what is it in the beginning that he declares and to whom does he declare it?

…Does the Lord have a pattern of declaring hypotheticals that might come to pass or does he declare at the beginning what will come to pass?
A friend pointed out how in Genesis with the creation of everything, “Before there was light, it was dark” so darkness is in a sense older and wiser than light. I don’t think this in the sense of evil, but rather in the emptiness that allows for the I AM/being.

Tolle explained that “I AM that I AM” is present tense, not past or future. Generally we don’t time travel in this life. We never experience in the past or future - rather only in the present moment.

Similarly I like in the parable about Jesus’s birth, while logically, & literally telling about something that already happened would be past tense, but present tense is used:
  • “Let us now go even unto Bethlehem, and see this thing which is come to pass, which the Lord hath made known unto us.” - Luke 2:15

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Re: The Lord declares at the beginning

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>>> We never experience in the past or future - rather only in the present moment.

ummm ... that may have sushi_ see/understand/imagine in a sense those rejecting prophet joseph today for instance like through proclaiming(based on), "PRETEND TO NO OTHER GIFT, FOR I WILL GRANT HIM NO OTHER GIFT" phrase might be likely in the same boat of prophet joseph's contemporaries who rejected(/reject) joseph as prophet seer so on ...

as in sushi_'s previous, looks like oliver cowdery experienced/experiences theophany and became/becomes a scribe of book of mormon, and of jst and a defender/testifier of changing of book of commandments into doctrine&covenants .. he must be a special witness of the lord and his work ..

so, what oliver defended/defends probably should have some significance over those of what other claim because of direct revelations/visions/gifts's nature experienced ..
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"In the specific usage for Christians and Jews, with respect to the Bible, Theophany refers to an event where the Abrahamic God reveals His Presence to a person. ..
" https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Theophany

book of mormon theophanians .... nephi, his brother jacob, enos, alma sr, jr , mormon, moroni, 4th nephi people .. so on ...
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