Rabbi Delves Into David and Bathsheba - David Technically Justified!

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Rabbi Delves Into David and Bathsheba - David Technically Justified!

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Here are some artful gymnastics exonerating King David in the case of Bathsheba and Uriah.

https://youtu.be/9D05wKgMnAE?si=Ju3wsNNZhT6Mlr_t

So, this rabbi talks about how David was right in getting together with Bathsheba, because God had intended her for him, but his timing was off. Though it looks like he committed adultery and murdered Uriah, it wasn't technically wrong, even though there were moral problems:

1) When soldiers like Uriah went to battle, they gave their wives divorce papers, in case they didn't return and their death couldn't be verified. This allowed their wives to remarry legally if their husbands went missing. When soldiers would return from battle, they would remarry their wives. So, Bathsheba was not actually married when David had relations with her.

2) Uriah had disrespected David by calling his commander his master, and not David the king. Plus, Uriah refused to take time off to spend time with Bathsheba, as David had requested, so that he would hopefully later suppose the baby was his. These offenses were technically worthy of death. So, David ordering that Uriah be killed was not technically wrong, given Uriah's actionable 'disrepect'.

3) God had intended David and Bathsheba to be together, but David's timing was bad. This is based on speculation by some other rabbi.

Perhaps this kind of thinking is what makes these guys such shameless lawyers. Maybe it's why Christ called them vipers. I don't know, but it's hard to swallow.

Our religion employs some similar loopholes to exonerate its leaders that have made mistakes, as well.

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Chip wrote: September 3rd, 2023, 8:18 am Here are some artful gymnastics exonerating King David in the case of Bathsheba and Uriah.

https://youtu.be/9D05wKgMnAE?si=Ju3wsNNZhT6Mlr_t

So, this rabbi talks about how David was right in getting together with Bathsheba, because God had intended her for him, but his timing was off. Though it looks like he committed adultery and murdered Uriah, it wasn't technically wrong, even though there were moral problems:

1) When soldiers like Uriah went to battle, they gave their wives divorce papers, in case they didn't return and their death couldn't be verified. This allowed their wives to remarry legally if their husbands went missing. When soldiers would return from battle, they would remarry their wives. So, Bathsheba was not actually married when David had relations with her.

2) Uriah had disrespected David by calling his commander his master, and not David the king. Plus, Uriah refused to take time off to spend time with Bathsheba, as David had requested, so that he would hopefully later suppose the baby was his. These offenses were technically worthy of death. So, David ordering that Uriah be killed was not technically wrong, given Uriah's actionable 'disrepect'.

3) God had intended David and Bathsheba to be together, but David's timing was bad. This is based on speculation by some other rabbi.

Perhaps this kind of thinking is what makes these guys such shameless lawyers. Maybe it's why Christ called them vipers. I don't know, but it's hard to swallow.

Our religion employs some similar loopholes to exonerate its leaders that have made mistakes, as well.
I see it everyday online. Usually when my argument hits their triggers


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There are similar discussions and reasonings here on LDSFF that would probably make Jewish rabbis green with envy.

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tmac wrote: September 3rd, 2023, 6:49 pm There are similar discussions and reasonings here on LDSFF that would probably make Jewish rabbis green with envy.
The DS will set things right.

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Ymarsakar wrote: September 3rd, 2023, 11:52 am I see it everyday online. Usually when my argument hits their triggers
That's just glorified trolling. Or to use your type of terminology "psychic wampyrism stimulating the third level chakra."

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tmac wrote: September 3rd, 2023, 6:49 pm There are similar discussions and reasonings here on LDSFF that would probably make Jewish rabbis green with envy.
Sometimes.

David did wrong, but it was also part of history. She is mentioned in Jesus' genealogy.

More recent Jewish legalism and hairsplitting has probably been accelerated by being cooped up in ghettoes. There was strong legalism in Jesus' day, but being trapped in a tiny slum or shtetl somewhere means you have a lot of time on your hands.

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