Kingdom/Eternal Marriage Explained

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Well, I think this is what we need to understand, explained by a girl who has been taught by Jesus:
There is a lot to unpack in what she is saying.

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I have listened to a few of her videos and I like the message in general.

I just get a little hung up when people say, "God told me". What does that mean exactly?

She is saying things that violate the Book of Mormon, the Lectures on Faith, and the Doctrine & Covenants so I have a hard time listening to the specifics.
However I don't doubt that "God told her" certain things because he reveals piece by piece and everyone is at a different point in a very wide spectrum.

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1 Corinthians 11:11
11 Nevertheless neither is the man without the woman, neither the woman without the man, in the Lord.

I believe this is both temporal and eternal.

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Telavian wrote: August 13th, 2023, 8:07 pm I have listened to a few of her videos and I like the message in general.

I just get a little hung up when people say, "God told me". What does that mean exactly?

She is saying things that violate the Book of Mormon, the Lectures on Faith, and the Doctrine & Covenants so I have a hard time listening to the specifics.
However I don't doubt that "God told her" certain things because he reveals piece by piece and everyone is at a different point in a very wide spectrum.
The Book Of Mormon, Lectures on Faith and the Doctrine & Covenants shed only a microscopic light on God. Being the creator of universes we as mortals can barely comprehend the power and mysteries of God. I will stand by my statement that no one knows anything about God. We only do a disservice to ourselves when we try to lump God into a few books or believe that other mortal men have even a minutiae of understanding when it comes to God.

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Erastothenes wrote: August 13th, 2023, 9:33 pm The Book Of Mormon, Lectures on Faith and the Doctrine & Covenants shed only a microscopic light on God. Being the creator of universes we as mortals can barely comprehend the power and mysteries of God. I will stand by my statement that no one knows anything about God. We only do a disservice to ourselves when we try to lump God into a few books or believe that other mortal men have even a minutiae of understanding when it comes to God.
I agree. God is infinitely larger than any set of books we could describe him in. She mentions this in one of her videos.
What I was meaning though is the scriptures were given to us as a guide. If someone says something that contradicts scriptures, then of course it could be true. However we ought to be incredibly careful with it.

There are so many people on the internet saying "God told me this", or "God told me that". It seems either God loves confusion or some of them are misunderstanding things.

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Erastothenes wrote: August 13th, 2023, 9:33 pm
Telavian wrote: August 13th, 2023, 8:07 pm I have listened to a few of her videos and I like the message in general.

I just get a little hung up when people say, "God told me". What does that mean exactly?

She is saying things that violate the Book of Mormon, the Lectures on Faith, and the Doctrine & Covenants so I have a hard time listening to the specifics.
However I don't doubt that "God told her" certain things because he reveals piece by piece and everyone is at a different point in a very wide spectrum.
The Book Of Mormon, Lectures on Faith and the Doctrine & Covenants shed only a microscopic light on God. Being the creator of universes we as mortals can barely comprehend the power and mysteries of God. I will stand by my statement that no one knows anything about God. We only do a disservice to ourselves when we try to lump God into a few books or believe that other mortal men have even a minutiae of understanding when it comes to God.
About time someone says it. Our faith can help us grow in closeness to our Father in Heaven but as we grow in knowledge of how things really are on this earth we come to know that nobody really knows anything. Not one person here today has died and come back to tell us about their knowledge of the great beyond. We may hint at it, we may allude to this knowledge, we may posture about it. And we think these things will help other people's faith but yet no one really knows anything definitively.

In my mind what mormon apostles do and then by extension each member is just charitably conning the next person so supposedly they can have greater faith in Christ. We are not doing anybody any favors by this but shifting the problems they would have faced without faith to problems they now face with artificial faith.

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Boy, this just blows me away. What she is saying is what we all need to hear to move forward. Religion has everyone in a box that they are afraid to see out of:

She is a MISSIONARY!!!

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Telavian wrote: August 13th, 2023, 8:07 pm I have listened to a few of her videos and I like the message in general.

I just get a little hung up when people say, "God told me". What does that mean exactly?

She is saying things that violate the Book of Mormon, the Lectures on Faith, and the Doctrine & Covenants so I have a hard time listening to the specifics.
However I don't doubt that "God told her" certain things because he reveals piece by piece and everyone is at a different point in a very wide spectrum.
It means a telepathic or heart based communication with another entity, aka god.

3rd grade humans may see it as "gut instinct" or "good intuition". But stronger than that and always right for the person.

Not always right for other people though.

You have a hard time because of cognitive dissonance. Human beliefs take a long time to break and destroy and die. Joseph Smith was young, still kept trying to give away the Lehi book translation papers, then succeeded, and then it went bye bye.

You can look at Sub for another example of listening to god and not listening to god.

"If someone says something that contradicts scriptures, then of course it could be true. "

Scriptures were written by flawed humans, and you as reader are interpreting it using another layer that can be flawed. So what does it mean to contradict either of those layers?

The fear of admitting one was "wrong in interpretation" is what Heiser calls a "humble pie".

"There are so many people on the internet saying "God told me this", or "God told me that". It seems either God loves confusion or some of them are misunderstanding things."

There are many gods and many levels to the gods. Some are smarter than others. Eternal progress. Makes perfect sense to me. But if you think it is just one god everyone talks... then yes reality will contradict you.

"In my mind what mormon apostles do and then by extension each member is just charitably conning the next person so supposedly they can have greater faith in Christ. We are not doing anybody any favors by this but shifting the problems they would have faced without faith to problems they now face with artificial faith."

That would be a lot more convincing if I didn't see you doing the exact same thing as those apostles, except in the opposiing direction.

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Erastothenes wrote: August 13th, 2023, 9:33 pm The Book Of Mormon, Lectures on Faith and the Doctrine & Covenants shed only a microscopic light on God. Being the creator of universes we as mortals can barely comprehend the power and mysteries of God. I will stand by my statement that no one knows anything about God. We only do a disservice to ourselves when we try to lump God into a few books or believe that other mortal men have even a minutiae of understanding when it comes to God.
I agree that there is so much more to learn about God.

I, absolutely, disagree that "no one knows anything about God." Of course, we all know what little he has told us in scripture. Even if that portion is only a one hundredth part, we still know it.

Whatever we learn in the future still has to be congruent with what we know from scripture, because one of the things we know is that he does not lie, so all future knowledge has to be placed on our existing foundation.

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Chip wrote: August 13th, 2023, 4:30 pm Well, I think this is what we need to understand, explained by a girl who has been taught by Jesus:
She is definitely being taught and moving up line upon line, but I don't think she's learned enough to be a qualified teacher, though God does use the weak things of the earth and he does command us to share his word even when we are not ready or qualified and I do commend her for trying to teach others.

She reminds me of the Oliver Cowdery revelation where he was told to study it out in his mind and in his heart, that necessary balance between reason and feeling. This wonderful young woman is all heart/emotion. She's intelligent too, but I get the impression her heart is always in the lead and that she is far from making her mind the equal with heart.

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Did "God" tell her, or was it the devil answering her and she is deceived

Reminded of the scene in the endowment when satan appears and says he's the god of this world and then is infuriated when adam says uh no, we're looking for messengers from heaven

I'm reminded of Korihor

"But behold, the devil hath deceived me; for he appeared unto me in the form of an angel, and said unto me: Go and reclaim this people, for they have all gone astray after an unknown God. And he said unto me: There is no God; yea, and he taught me that which I should say. And I have taught his words; and I taught them because they were pleasing unto the carnal mind; and I taught them, even until I had much success, insomuch that I verily believed that they were true; and for this cause I withstood the truth, even until I have brought this great curse upon me."

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I have not watched the video. Hopefully she ties in the idea about the parable of the 10 virgins being married to one man is a story about us to the lord and a covenant man, everlasting covenant, to his covenant wives.

Imagine someone giving a parable of a polygamist marriage but saying polygamy is an abomination……

So much ignorance out there!

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Shawn Henry wrote: August 14th, 2023, 9:34 am
Erastothenes wrote: August 13th, 2023, 9:33 pm The Book Of Mormon, Lectures on Faith and the Doctrine & Covenants shed only a microscopic light on God. Being the creator of universes we as mortals can barely comprehend the power and mysteries of God. I will stand by my statement that no one knows anything about God. We only do a disservice to ourselves when we try to lump God into a few books or believe that other mortal men have even a minutiae of understanding when it comes to God.
I agree that there is so much more to learn about God.

I, absolutely, disagree that "no one knows anything about God." Of course, we all know what little he has told us in scripture. Even if that portion is only a one hundredth part, we still know it.

Whatever we learn in the future still has to be congruent with what we know from scripture, because one of the things we know is that he does not lie, so all future knowledge has to be placed on our existing foundation.
It mus march with this mortality. As we pass through this class and enter the next grade we build upon what we have learned previously. As we progress the rules change. Laws and commandments in this classroom may be null and void in the next as our intelligence has surpassed the need for the simple law or understanding.

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big spiritual discernment test

Humans back then said Jeshua was casting out satan using the power of the devil.

Not much has changed over the years I see.

Btw, most of the Book of Mormon so to speak, is in the large nephite plates. Those would be like the Book of Jasher, chronicling in more detail what went on. That was sealed. Why? Probably because it had tidbits of info about the female holy spirit.

Why has the female divine essence be removed from the scriptures? Because of satan and God, respecting Satan's free will and mission in the Divine COunsel, doesn't product contradicting scriptures according to the free will given unto Satan to rule/punish mankind. Since God is not writing the scriptures by hand, it is not God deceiving us but the satan in people's mirrors deceiving us. For scripture is written by mankind not godkind. The ancients had imbalanced sexual roles because that was just how their traditional ancient societies worked. Women were property, and they believed this. Even the so called apostles of Jeshua treated the women as unequals.

It doesn't matter if mortals have polygamy, polyamory, or monogamy. All of your relationships, ever since the founding, has been crippled, sabotaged, and poisoned. Both the lack of a true understanding of love and a true understanding of divine feminine and divine masculine attributes, has led to this imbalance. Which went far beyond 6k years ago.

Do people honestly think transgender is when Satan began their work? No, try your great grand father to the 13th exponent. Who came up with Western version of celibacy and monogamy? The CHURCH OF rome. The HEAD of the CHurch of rome is the priest of Jupiter, the Bridge that stands before You and Christ. Just as CHrist stands before the Bridge and Godhead.

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