LDS Church is suing Cody, Wyoming

[InfoWarrior82]

It's really simple. Be good neighbors. Explain to them the purpose of the temple and temple ceremonies. Have multiple plans set up in case somebody balks at the initial plan. Listen to those that might be concerned about the temple (such as traffic concerns, lighting, and the like). The Church did that in Puebla. Why couldn't they do that in Cody, especially after what happened in Tegucigalpa?

Exactly!

It's like the Church wants to make itself look bad (a cardinal sin if a member does it; people have gotten ex'ed for that), and is trying to make people hate them.

I think it's because they have grown confident that their friends in high places will protect them and clear the way for them.

[JohnnyL]

Site location of the Cody, Wyoming temple

This is why I 100% support the church for suing as it was hate motivated issue with the town. They don't want more church members coming into their town. Of course they won't say this. It's a pretty fast trip from Idaho and northern parts of Utah for people to go to this temple. Plus with a temple, it means members will move there too.

The church agreed to lower the height of the steeple from 101 feet to 85.
https://www.sltrib.com/religion/2023/08 ... l-wyoming/

Is the area this completely desolate 360d? If it were downtown, I could understand... Are the deer and rabbits complaining of lights and tall steeples?

The Church always applies for exemptions and gets them before building contrary to standards. Even after getting them, they usually relent some if the common people are against it (like they did here).

[gkearney]

They should just relocate the temple down the road to Lovell that’s where all the memberships is anyway and I bet no one there would object even if it was in the middle of town.

[Lizzy60]

Site location of the Cody, Wyoming temple

This is why I 100% support the church for suing as it was hate motivated issue with the town. They don't want more church members coming into their town. Of course they won't say this. It's a pretty fast trip from Idaho and northern parts of Utah for people to go to this temple. Plus with a temple, it means members will move there too.

The church agreed to lower the height of the steeple from 101 feet to 85.
https://www.sltrib.com/religion/2023/08 ... l-wyoming/

Is the area this completely desolate 360d? If it were downtown, I could understand... Are the deer and rabbits complaining of lights and tall steeples?

The Church always applies for exemptions and gets them before building contrary to standards. Even after getting them, they usually relent some if the common people are against it (like they did here).

This plot of land is located at the end of a residential street. There are homes on both sides of the street, including one that will be right next door to the temple. This location means that the temple will block this wilderness view from the residents there, and there will also be much more traffic than normal on their narrow street, with no sidewalks, all day, 5 days a week.

If you google Skyline Dr Cody Wyoming, you can pull up a terrain map. The temple plot is at the end of Skyline, where it intersects with Cody Canal. The photo above is misleading, as it only shows the vacant land, not the residential area leading to it.

[Magus]

Site location of the Cody, Wyoming temple

This is why I 100% support the church for suing as it was hate motivated issue with the town. They don't want more church members coming into their town. Of course they won't say this. It's a pretty fast trip from Idaho and northern parts of Utah for people to go to this temple. Plus with a temple, it means members will move there too.

The church agreed to lower the height of the steeple from 101 feet to 85.
https://www.sltrib.com/religion/2023/08 ... l-wyoming/

Is the area this completely desolate 360d? If it were downtown, I could understand... Are the deer and rabbits complaining of lights and tall steeples?

The Church always applies for exemptions and gets them before building contrary to standards. Even after getting them, they usually relent some if the common people are against it (like they did here).

This plot of land is located at the end of a residential street. There are homes on both sides of the street, including one that will be right next door to the temple. This location means that the temple will block this wilderness view from the residents there, and there will also be much more traffic than normal on their narrow street, with no sidewalks, all day, 5 days a week.

If you google Skyline Dr Cody Wyoming, you can pull up a terrain map. The temple plot is at the end of Skyline, where it intersects with Cody Canal. The photo above is misleading, as it only shows the vacant land, not the residential area leading to it.

Well they'll be damned if they get their wilderness view obstructed.

I see both sides.

I would probably err on the side of not pissing off the locals.

But I understand the Church's representatives standing their ground on this, too.

There's probably some anti-Mormon sentiment involved, sure. And this will probably exacerbate that. Which really isn't in the Church's ultimate interests as far as I can tell.

[gkearney]

What were the neighbours going to do when the day came that someone wanted to subdivide the land and build more houses?

[JohnnyL]

Site location of the Cody, Wyoming temple

This is why I 100% support the church for suing as it was hate motivated issue with the town. They don't want more church members coming into their town. Of course they won't say this. It's a pretty fast trip from Idaho and northern parts of Utah for people to go to this temple. Plus with a temple, it means members will move there too.

The church agreed to lower the height of the steeple from 101 feet to 85.
https://www.sltrib.com/religion/2023/08 ... l-wyoming/

Is the area this completely desolate 360d? If it were downtown, I could understand... Are the deer and rabbits complaining of lights and tall steeples?

The Church always applies for exemptions and gets them before building contrary to standards. Even after getting them, they usually relent some if the common people are against it (like they did here).

This plot of land is located at the end of a residential street. There are homes on both sides of the street, including one that will be right next door to the temple. This location means that the temple will block this wilderness view from the residents there, and there will also be much more traffic than normal on their narrow street, with no sidewalks, all day, 5 days a week.

If you google Skyline Dr Cody Wyoming, you can pull up a terrain map. The temple plot is at the end of Skyline, where it intersects with Cody Canal. The photo above is misleading, as it only shows the vacant land, not the residential area leading to it.

Not sure where in all that empty land the actual site is/ will be, but it seems to be about the most desolate place in Cody that still has a road. There are maybe 7 houses within 2,000 ft.

[Lizzy60]

Is the area this completely desolate 360d? If it were downtown, I could understand... Are the deer and rabbits complaining of lights and tall steeples?

The Church always applies for exemptions and gets them before building contrary to standards. Even after getting them, they usually relent some if the common people are against it (like they did here).

This plot of land is located at the end of a residential street. There are homes on both sides of the street, including one that will be right next door to the temple. This location means that the temple will block this wilderness view from the residents there, and there will also be much more traffic than normal on their narrow street, with no sidewalks, all day, 5 days a week.

If you google Skyline Dr Cody Wyoming, you can pull up a terrain map. The temple plot is at the end of Skyline, where it intersects with Cody Canal. The photo above is misleading, as it only shows the vacant land, not the residential area leading to it.

Not sure where in all that empty land the actual site is/ will be, but it seems to be about the most desolate place in Cody that still has a road. There are maybe 7 houses within 2,000 ft.

Did you pull up the terrain map? There is a golf course, dozens of houses, houses lining the street all the way to the end, which is where the temple plot is. In the photo, if the cameraman turned around, you’d see the street and homes on both sides. It’s a fully occupied residential street.

[Fred]

Their homes will likely increase in value if the temple is built by at least $100k. So they will have to pay more property tax. They could sell and put the $100k in their pocket. But maybe their grandma is buried in the back yard so they don't want to move. $100k isn't enough to make me move. They thought they lived in the middle of nowhere and now there will be traffic 7 days a week from lookie loos. Illegal aliens will park on their street and attempt to traffic their children or sell them drugs. Pretty soon a 7-11 will spring up to cater to the temple visitors. Open 24 hours to make noise and bring more traffic. And they had been thinking all along that nobody even knew where Cody, Wyoming was. Now it will be a city. Crime. Homeless. All they wanted was to be in the boonies. Why does one live way out there anyway? To get away from traffic, 7-11, crime, drugs, illegal immigrants, etc.

[Good & Global]

This plot of land is located at the end of a residential street. There are homes on both sides of the street, including one that will be right next door to the temple. This location means that the temple will block this wilderness view from the residents there, and there will also be much more traffic than normal on their narrow street, with no sidewalks, all day, 5 days a week.

If you google Skyline Dr Cody Wyoming, you can pull up a terrain map. The temple plot is at the end of Skyline, where it intersects with Cody Canal. The photo above is misleading, as it only shows the vacant land, not the residential area leading to it.

Not sure where in all that empty land the actual site is/ will be, but it seems to be about the most desolate place in Cody that still has a road. There are maybe 7 houses within 2,000 ft.

Did you pull up the terrain map? There is a golf course, dozens of houses, houses lining the street all the way to the end, which is where the temple plot is. In the photo, if the cameraman turned around, you’d see the street and homes on both sides. It’s a fully occupied residential street.

I am still looking for the Church News watermark on the photo but my eyes are not too good in my old age.
I smell gas fumes and that means someone is getting gaslit. The question is who?

When has the church ever built a temple out in the middle of nowhere next to nothing?

[Fred]

Not sure where in all that empty land the actual site is/ will be, but it seems to be about the most desolate place in Cody that still has a road. There are maybe 7 houses within 2,000 ft.

Did you pull up the terrain map? There is a golf course, dozens of houses, houses lining the street all the way to the end, which is where the temple plot is. In the photo, if the cameraman turned around, you’d see the street and homes on both sides. It’s a fully occupied residential street.

I am still looking for the Church News watermark on the photo but my eyes are not too good in my old age.
I smell gas fumes and that means someone is getting gaslit. The question is who?

When has the church ever built a temple out in the middle of nowhere next to nothing?

Where else can you buy land for under $1000 an acre, put in a temple and develop the thousand acres you bought in speculation for millions in profit?

Like they did in Snowflake, Arizona which only had a couple cows and chickens. They put in a temple and developed hundreds of new homes right across the street. They made millions.

[Good & Global]

Did you pull up the terrain map? There is a golf course, dozens of houses, houses lining the street all the way to the end, which is where the temple plot is. In the photo, if the cameraman turned around, you’d see the street and homes on both sides. It’s a fully occupied residential street.

I am still looking for the Church News watermark on the photo but my eyes are not too good in my old age.
I smell gas fumes and that means someone is getting gaslit. The question is who?

When has the church ever built a temple out in the middle of nowhere next to nothing?

Where else can you buy land for under $1000 an acre, put in a temple and develop the thousand acres you bought in speculation for millions in profit?

Like they did in Snowflake, Arizona which only had a couple cows and chickens. They put in a temple and developed hundreds of new homes right across the street. They made millions.

And God used that money to spread the gospel to the world. This is probably why they make such a big deal out of the If it be you bring one soul unto the church phrase ... they bring one soul to the church per $1M+ dollars spent. The church has billions but can barely count on 8 million going to church each sunday, let alone joining which is far more miniscule compared to the money being spent for this spritual side show.

The mormon church has the crappiest ROI of any christian church out there. You can convert millions more souls in run down, fly over, barely know what they are doing, small christian chapels across the country. Why God hasn't fired these unprofitable servants already is beyond me?

[captainfearnot]

This is the satellite view showing what I believe to be the proposed site of the temple.

If you use Google Street View from the corner of Skyline and Canal, you can recreate the photo posted earlier.

This is the Zillow map of the area showing house values.

[Fred]

I am still looking for the Church News watermark on the photo but my eyes are not too good in my old age.
I smell gas fumes and that means someone is getting gaslit. The question is who?

When has the church ever built a temple out in the middle of nowhere next to nothing?

Where else can you buy land for under $1000 an acre, put in a temple and develop the thousand acres you bought in speculation for millions in profit?

Like they did in Snowflake, Arizona which only had a couple cows and chickens. They put in a temple and developed hundreds of new homes right across the street. They made millions.

And God used that money to spread the gospel to the world. This is probably why they make such a big deal out of the If it be you bring one soul unto the church phrase ... they bring one soul to the church per $1M+ dollars spent. The church has billions but can barely count on 8 million going to church each sunday, let alone joining which is far more miniscule compared to the money being spent for this spritual side show.

The mormon church has the crappiest ROI of any christian church out there. You can convert millions more souls in run down, fly over, barely know what they are doing, small christian chapels across the country. Why God hasn't fired these unprofitable servants already is beyond me?

Just for the record, I don't care whether they build it there or somewhere else. I also am not denying them the opportunity to make a profit. I was simply answering your question about when have they ever built a temple in the middle of nowhere? I gave an answer. Snowflake, AZ. It was extremely profitable and here they have the opportunity to do it again.

[Niemand]

I think light pollution may be a major issue here. There may be some people who would resent a light shining through their windows at all hours of the day.

Seems a strange place to build a temple. Not huge population and apparently not many Mormons around.

[Good & Global]

Site location of the Cody, Wyoming temple

This is why I 100% support the church for suing as it was hate motivated issue with the town. They don't want more church members coming into their town. Of course they won't say this. It's a pretty fast trip from Idaho and northern parts of Utah for people to go to this temple. Plus with a temple, it means members will move there too.

The church agreed to lower the height of the steeple from 101 feet to 85.
https://www.sltrib.com/religion/2023/08 ... l-wyoming/

Agreed. Only way for a church to solve hate is with even more hate. Eye for an eye.
My Old Testament is greater than Your New Testament.

If church would pick and choose the correct battles, people actually might respect them.
But they cowtow to Big Pharma and Big Homosexuality while not taking anymore from the Little Guy.

[HVDC]

I suspect that.

The church probably owns other lots or land near this spot they plan on developing.

15 minute circle.

Sir H

[Lizzy60]

I suspect that.

The church probably owns other lots or land near this spot they plan on developing.

15 minute circle.

Sir H

The land was donated by a wealthy member of the church who owns the temple parcel as well as surrounding land. He is currently storing the huge crates that contain the “LEGO pieces” that will be assembled to create the temple.

This is another sore spot with the locals, because very little local labor will be used in the temple construction.

We can only guess what the land donor and the church have planned for the other land he owns around the temple parcel.

[JK4Woods]

Anyone notice Sulphur Creek right behind it..??

Just wondering if it lives up to its name…,

Have the new pre-fab temple ensconced in the smell of rotten eggs… nice…. (And might also be somewhat appropriate…).

Just wonder who among church leadership has a $920k “cabin” up in Cody, WY on the golf course…??… cause you know… gotta hide away after emeritus status is laid on them..

[HVDC]

I suspect that.

The church probably owns other lots or land near this spot they plan on developing.

15 minute circle.

Sir H

The land was donated by a wealthy member of the church who owns the temple parcel as well as surrounding land. He is currently storing the huge crates that contain the “LEGO pieces” that will be assembled to create the temple.

This is another sore spot with the locals, because very little local labor will be used in the temple construction.

We can only guess what the land donor and the church have planned for the other land he owns around the temple parcel.

Could explain why they are fighting this so hard.

Lots of money on the table.

Is it just me.

Or is there something unseemly.

About using a Temple as a loss leader.

Sir H

[JohnnyL]

Not sure where in all that empty land the actual site is/ will be, but it seems to be about the most desolate place in Cody that still has a road. There are maybe 7 houses within 2,000 ft.

Did you pull up the terrain map? There is a golf course, dozens of houses, houses lining the street all the way to the end, which is where the temple plot is. In the photo, if the cameraman turned around, you’d see the street and homes on both sides. It’s a fully occupied residential street.

I am still looking for the Church News watermark on the photo but my eyes are not too good in my old age.
I smell gas fumes and that means someone is getting gaslit. The question is who?

When has the church ever built a temple out in the middle of nowhere next to nothing?

Put "Skyline Dr Cody Wyoming" into Google Maps and see.

[Thinker]

Cody residents don't like that the temple is in a residential area, that the spire will be 70 feet high, or that the LDS Church started moving materials to the site before it was approved. I read that in an online Wyoming newspaper.

The reddit post below is very angry. Not sure how much of their perspective is true about the LDS individuals in Cody, but the Corp suing them? That's a satanic thing for a Christ-claiming Church to do, imo.
https://www.reddit.com/r/wyoming/commen ... n_of_cody/

https://www.codyenterprise.com/news/loc ... 86a06.html

Sad, our town isn't exactly rich and we have a cult with tons of lawyers and $150B bearing down on us. These people have lied and lied and lied and lied again to the townspeople. We are unable to comment in the Cody Enterprise without our comments being deleted. We are unable to comment on Facebook without our comments getting deleted. Everyday the 10% of people here who are Mormons post comments about us being bigots and unpatriotic in the paper, and the townspeople can't defend themselves against these predators.

They started moving in building materials for the Temple even before approval because the City Planner is a Mormon and tried to push it through, despite being 70' higher than code and in a residential neighborhood.

Maybe historically, something like that happened as Mormons tried to settle in places already settled… they took over, silenced speech, bullied etc?

What’s the vibe like in WY usually and generally, regarding the church? Is it just Cody having issues? Are people generally more tolerant of religious differences without being imposing?

You’d think corporations would have to go by rules that require only residents in residential areas - no businesses.

[gkearney]

Cody residents don't like that the temple is in a residential area, that the spire will be 70 feet high, or that the LDS Church started moving materials to the site before it was approved. I read that in an online Wyoming newspaper.

The reddit post below is very angry. Not sure how much of their perspective is true about the LDS individuals in Cody, but the Corp suing them? That's a satanic thing for a Christ-claiming Church to do, imo.
https://www.reddit.com/r/wyoming/commen ... n_of_cody/

https://www.codyenterprise.com/news/loc ... 86a06.html

Sad, our town isn't exactly rich and we have a cult with tons of lawyers and $150B bearing down on us. These people have lied and lied and lied and lied again to the townspeople. We are unable to comment in the Cody Enterprise without our comments being deleted. We are unable to comment on Facebook without our comments getting deleted. Everyday the 10% of people here who are Mormons post comments about us being bigots and unpatriotic in the paper, and the townspeople can't defend themselves against these predators.

They started moving in building materials for the Temple even before approval because the City Planner is a Mormon and tried to push it through, despite being 70' higher than code and in a residential neighborhood.

Maybe historically, something like that happened as Mormons tried to settle in places already settled… they took over, silenced speech, bullied etc?

What’s the vibe like in WY usually and generally, regarding the church? Is it just Cody having issues? Are people generally more tolerant of religious differences without being imposing?

You’d think corporations would have to go by rules that require only residents in residential areas - no businesses.

There were no such issues in Casper, the largest city in the state and located in central Wyoming. Also no issues in the Star Valley in far western Wyoming which has a mostly Mormon population.

This whole matter could be simply addressed by relocating the temple to the nearby LDS communities in the Big Horn Basin of Powell or Lovell where such a building would not face any opposition.

[Silver Pie]

If that's truly the place they're putting the temple, I can't see why the town is in an uproar. Even if there are houses behind us, as we face that terrain, it's hardly in the middle of a residential neighborhood.

[Silver Pie]

I think it's because they have grown confident that their friends in high places will protect them and clear the way for them.

That's quite possible. I wouldn't be surprised if all billionaires/trillionaires were invited to the elite seats of the planet.