Rob Smith - OMAS?

[Being There]

I did and he responded with quite a long and considerate response.

The thought just occurred to me that either Rob is the OMAS or he is being coy with you.
Of course, there is a third possibility that he might not know and possibly thinks he is, in which case he should say as much.

A while back I asked Rob if he was a prophet along with a bunch of other questions in one of his live Q&A streams.
He ignored my question, but did respond with some other similar ones with answer non-answers.

If he is, then I guess he might not what to say as much.
However, if he is not then why not say so? The only reason to lead people on is because he would hope they think it, so they would ascribe certain things to him.
I am not accusing him of anything at all.
However, if someone asked me if I am the OMAS then I would tell them no, but I think the OMAS will do X, Y, and Z so we should look for that.

I am just mainly thinking about the current LDS leadership that is coy with the general population.
They give just enough details to make us think they talk to Christ regularly however never quite share enough details to make it plain.
Everything is always "too sacred to share".
"Are you a prophet". "The people sustain me as such".

I seriously doubt the OMAS or the DS will be coy with people. I think they will be open and honest in all things.

true, and
"he will not judge by what his eyes see, nor establish proof by what his ears hear.
4 He will judge the poor with righteousness, and with equity arbitrate for the lowly in the land;
he will smite the earth with the rod of his mouth and with the breath of his lips slay the wicked.
5 Righteousness will be as a band about his waist, faithfulness a girdle round his loins.
Isaiah 11

[Thinker]

Why would i worship my cousin or brother? My god is not ur god. And i am not ur savior. And ur relationship where u worship organized religion has nothing to do with me or young or the gods…

^ That’s my general reaction to this idea of “one mighty and strong” as well as prioritizing religion over God.

There are various levels of worshipping false gods… which I may still do to an extent.

1) Worship parents - as kids we kind of instinctively saw our parents as gods who could do no wrong. This was so we felt safe.

2) Worship live people - substitutes for parental AUTHORITY (“General AUTHORITY”).

3) Worship dead, deified people who lived recently - like past church leaders - especially Joseph Smith in lds world.

4) Worship people who lived so long ago that who they are considered has changed a lot from who they actually were (ie Jesus - Latin name for Yeshua).

5) Worship false ideas of God - psychologically projecting our dysfunctional notions of God. Ideally, we do as Jacob did & wrestle with our incorrect beliefs of God - and become born again & again…


But, each of these take increasing amounts of faith so many disobey the first of the lower commandments to avoid the discomfort of faith in the more intangible.

[Ymarsakar]

Why would i worship my cousin or brother? My god is not ur god. And i am not ur savior. And ur relationship where u worship organized religion has nothing to do with me or young or the gods…

^ That’s my general reaction to this idea of “one mighty and strong” as well as prioritizing religion over God.

There are various levels of worshipping false gods… which I may still do to an extent.

1) Worship parents - as kids we kind of instinctively saw our parents as gods who could do no wrong. This was so we felt safe.

2) Worship live people - substitutes for parental AUTHORITY (“General AUTHORITY”).

3) Worship dead, deified people who lived recently - like past church leaders - especially Joseph Smith in lds world.

4) Worship people who lived so long ago that who they are considered has changed a lot from who they actually were (ie Jesus - Latin name for Yeshua).

5) Worship false ideas of God - psychologically projecting our dysfunctional notions of God. Ideally, we do as Jacob did & wrestle with our incorrect beliefs of God - and become born again & again…


But, each of these take increasing amounts of faith so many disobey the first of the lower commandments to avoid the discomfort of faith in the more intangible.

Those who enter the kingdom of god receive an internal and life change. These are the fruits.

I avoid arguing about theology. Even when i was reading heiser. I was not much interested in human theories. I desired to communicate only with a true god that had the power and character to match what i needed. The power to destroy evil.

I hope people dont misunderstand me simply because i got soft after 2016. While i appreciate the improvements in my life and powers, this was not for salvation. Salvation was merely a side bonus to me.

What i originally desired and contracted for over the decades was a way to obliterate and defeat evil for all time. My god has not betrayed me and has kept their promise. And my sword is sworn to the servicw of my god. Not lds theology or joseph smith or ur gods.

Mortals dont have the power to defeat evil. At most they can try to pretend to be ymar experts.

Thinker, ur blockage is rather simple to my eyes. Same thing as fred or global but less raw since you have good principles of theory like all is 1. But the blockage is the same when it comes to seeing nelson and the red seats.

[Thinker]

Why would i worship my cousin or brother? My god is not ur god. And i am not ur savior. And ur relationship where u worship organized religion has nothing to do with me or young or the gods…

^ That’s my general reaction to this idea of “one mighty and strong” as well as prioritizing religion over God.

There are various levels of worshipping false gods… which I may still do to an extent.

1) Worship parents - as kids we kind of instinctively saw our parents as gods who could do no wrong. This was so we felt safe.

2) Worship live people - substitutes for parental AUTHORITY (“General AUTHORITY”).

3) Worship dead, deified people who lived recently - like past church leaders - especially Joseph Smith in lds world.

4) Worship people who lived so long ago that who they are considered has changed a lot from who they actually were (ie Jesus - Latin name for Yeshua).

5) Worship false ideas of God - psychologically projecting our dysfunctional notions of God. Ideally, we do as Jacob did & wrestle with our incorrect beliefs of God - and become born again & again…


But, each of these take increasing amounts of faith so many disobey the first of the lower commandments to avoid the discomfort of faith in the more intangible.

Those who enter the kingdom of god receive an internal and life change. These are the fruits.

I avoid arguing about theology. Even when i was reading heiser. I was not much interested in human theories. I desired to communicate only with a true god that had the power and character to match what i needed. The power to destroy evil.

I hope people dont misunderstand me simply because i got soft after 2016. While i appreciate the improvements in my life and powers, this was not for salvation. Salvation was merely a side bonus to me.

What i originally desired and contracted for over the decades was a way to obliterate and defeat evil for all time. My god has not betrayed me and has kept their promise. And my sword is sworn to the servicw of my god. Not lds theology or joseph smith or ur gods.

Mortals dont have the power to defeat evil. At most they can try to pretend to be ymar experts.

Thinker, ur blockage is rather simple to my eyes. Same thing as fred or global but less raw since you have good principles of theory like all is 1. But the blockage is the same when it comes to seeing nelson and the red seats.

Well, 1 thing I gotta say about you is that you wake people up - in challenging (criticizing) them. I agree with you on some important aspects - but disagree on others.

And of all my blockage or weaknesses - my relatively rare criticism of cult leaders is not so relevant. It would be different if I were criticizing them every waking moment etc., but they enter into my thoughts rarely. I know a list of my weaknesses - & they are not on it. Sure, I need to learn to love even evil-doers (see good in them etc) but maybe I am, in striving for the highest GOoD - in revealing truths kept dark & secret.

IMO, Anyone who thinks evil can be obliterated for all time is under a type of evil/ignor-ance. Pretending good is evil (that there is no evil) is exactly how evil gets so powerful.

• “Don't try to better than you are, otherwise the devil gets angry. Don't try to be worse because God gets angry. Try to be what u r - that is acrobatics enough.” - Carl Jung

Keeping in mind that the experience of both God & the devil are within us. We are not 100% perfect nor 100% bad - but a mix - & THAT difficult fact is why all the human sacrifice scapegoating & other dysfunctional notions adopted by church history liars like Eusebius.

[Ymarsakar]

"my relatively rare criticism of cult leaders is not so relevant. "

You should be able to notice by now the difference in how it feels when you follow along with Fred and Global's train of thought, vs otherwise. Perhaps you simply avoid looking at what it is like, thus it becomes rare.

Rare does not mean less relevant however.

Once you frame them as "cult leaders", you have already created a permanent cage for yourself. For in so far as you judge others is how you will be judged, and what you do unto others, you do unto yourself.

For if the LDS red seats are forever limited as cult leaders in your eyes, so the same shall be done to your life, in terms of restriction. The qabal labels you their slave. You can no more escape that than the LDS red seats can escape their prison, right. The apocalypse accelerates manifestation of karma and justice.

"IMO, Anyone who thinks evil can be obliterated for all time is under a type of evil/ignor-ance. Pretending good is evil (that there is no evil) is exactly how evil gets so powerful."

I will employ a parable, since this extends the limits of human consciousness right now.

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It is not pretending good is evil. That is simply the veil of maya. There is a time, 1000 years of peace. How can there be peace while tolerating evil? That's not how it works. But even after 1000 years, there is a Final Judgment or Final Conflict between dark and light. Which is best summarized in this vorlon story I posted before.

"Well, 1 thing I gotta say about you is that you wake people up"

If people become enlightened by my words, it is only because I blew up their previous paradigms. That's not all that pleasant an experience. For me, I like my human paradigms to be destroyed. I am an intellectual masochist in a sense. Others, don't seem to like their paradigms blowing up all of a sudden.

[Telavian]

Most commonly the thing that people supply as a basis for Joseph's return are his P blessings. What are the many others?

I finally got to this. However, these are the reasons that I think Joseph will be returning and finishing what he started.
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