Rob Smith - OMAS?

[Telavian]

Getting back to RS, I do have a couple basic, practical, where-the-rubber-meets-the-road type questions: What is his marital status? Does he have children?

Maybe it’s just me, but to me he comes across as someone who might be quite prone to being a micro-managing control freak. Is it just me?

The question I can’t help ask is how could a spouse and/or children ever measure up?

I’ve been around a few people like that, and, at least in my experience, it’s not much fun. And, if a person were evaluating the joy of living the gospel based on their vibe, aura and demeanor, it would generally not be very persuasive.

Thoughts?

Rob is married and has children. He was military and, based on his posts, runs his house like military.
I think in many ways this is a good thing, however of course it can be damaging also.

I don't recall, but some other thread described him as writing all the time. Which is probably true since he has produced so much. In many of his videos he mentions how important writing is and how there is nothing more important. He then proceeds to record an hour-long video about something he has spoken about 10 times already.

In a video, which finally caused Rob to block me, he mocked his wife for starting a bench project and not being able to finish it. He had to stop writing and finish it for her. He then proceeds to sit on the bench, discuss how nice it is, and how he is glad he has it. However, he uses it as a lesson in how his activities are superior to his wife's and how we need to do the "best" thing to be holy.

He has also mentioned he went on something like 100 dates with different women until he found the "best" one.

I think Rob is like most top leaders. He has a vision of the way the world should be and you are either with him or against him. Differences and discussion are not tolerated.

[Telavian]

Whether or not Rob is the OMAS, I thank God for sending someone who articulates, in words, what I have believed in my heart all my life and for the fruits a state of sinlessness has yielded in my life.

Do you know of a single thing that Rob is teaching that others are not? I know he talks a lot of being sinless, which I agree with, however this is a common teaching in fringe Christianity.
He talks about us needing to focus on God, which I agree with, however this is common.
He talks about the destructive times ahead, with I agree with, however this is common.

If you could sum up Rob Smith into a sentence, what would it be?

[Original_Intent]

Whether or not Rob is the OMAS, I thank God for sending someone who articulates, in words, what I have believed in my heart all my life and for the fruits a state of sinlessness has yielded in my life.

Do you know of a single thing that Rob is teaching that others are not? I know he talks a lot of being sinless, which I agree with, however this is a common teaching in fringe Christianity.
He talks about us needing to focus on God, which I agree with, however this is common.
He talks about the destructive times ahead, with I agree with, however this is common.

If you could sum up Rob Smith into a sentence, what would it be?

Dedicated, at least that is my impression. He isn't just talking about ideas.

[An Eye Single]

Getting back to RS, I do have a couple basic, practical, where-the-rubber-meets-the-road type questions: What is his marital status? Does he have children?

Maybe it’s just me, but to me he comes across as someone who might be quite prone to being a micro-managing control freak. Is it just me?

The question I can’t help ask is how could a spouse and/or children ever measure up?

I’ve been around a few people like that, and, at least in my experience, it’s not much fun. And, if a person were evaluating the joy of living the gospel based on their vibe, aura and demeanor, it would generally not be very persuasive.

Thoughts?

This is going to deviate just a bit from the topic of Rob Smith, in particular, but I think that this brings up some things about God that we don’t like to think about a lot.

While I wouldn’t call God a “micro-managing control freak,” I know that, if most people experienced him in his fulness, they would be prone to think that about him. In actuality, he is “exacting” in his love for us. Read Hebrews 12. If you would be a son, you should expect rebukes, chastening, and scourging—not because God is mean, but because he loves you. Verses 7-8 go on say that if don’t “endure chastening,” you are a bastard, and not a son. There is a reason why the word “endure” is used. That chastening is unpleasant to anyone who does not have an accurate understanding of God’s love for them. Even the initial mercy that he extends towards us in forgiveness rests upon principles of justice that he must adhere to or he would cease to be God. And then beyond that mercy, there is an aspect of God that is so “firm” and “unyielding” that anyone who has not partaken of his love will see him as cruel and harsh when he is not.

God has the highest expectations of us. We should unfailingly rise to our best understanding of his expectations of us. To do anything else would be to expect him (and ourselves) to find lasting joy in being satisfied with our lower expectations for ourselves, and that just doesn’t happen—for him or for us (see Alma 41:10). The demands of justice will absolutely not allow it.

[An Eye Single]

Whether or not Rob is the OMAS, I thank God for sending someone who articulates, in words, what I have believed in my heart all my life and for the fruits a state of sinlessness has yielded in my life.

Do you know of a single thing that Rob is teaching that others are not? I know he talks a lot of being sinless, which I agree with, however this is a common teaching in fringe Christianity.
He talks about us needing to focus on God, which I agree with, however this is common.
He talks about the destructive times ahead, with I agree with, however this is common.

If you could sum up Rob Smith into a sentence, what would it be?

Dedicated, at least that is my impression. He isn't just talking about ideas.

Boy, I was finding it difficult to come up with a single sentence, but OI sure came up with a word that comes close to how I would sum him up. I would actually go further and say “consecrated.”

[FrankOne]

Getting back to RS, I do have a couple basic, practical, where-the-rubber-meets-the-road type questions: What is his marital status? Does he have children?

Maybe it’s just me, but to me he comes across as someone who might be quite prone to being a micro-managing control freak. Is it just me?

The question I can’t help ask is how could a spouse and/or children ever measure up?

I’ve been around a few people like that, and, at least in my experience, it’s not much fun. And, if a person were evaluating the joy of living the gospel based on their vibe, aura and demeanor, it would generally not be very persuasive.

Thoughts?

Rob is married and has children. He was military and, based on his posts, runs his house like military.
I think in many ways this is a good thing, however of course it can be damaging also.

I don't recall, but some other thread described him as writing all the time. Which is probably true since he has produced so much. In many of his videos he mentions how important writing is and how there is nothing more important. He then proceeds to record an hour-long video about something he has spoken about 10 times already.

In a video, which finally caused Rob to block me, he mocked his wife for starting a bench project and not being able to finish it. He had to stop writing and finish it for her. He then proceeds to sit on the bench, discuss how nice it is, and how he is glad he has it. However, he uses it as a lesson in how his activities are superior to his wife's and how we need to do the "best" thing to be holy.

He has also mentioned he went on something like 100 dates with different women until he found the "best" one.

I think Rob is like most top leaders. He has a vision of the way the world should be and you are either with him or against him. Differences and discussion are not tolerated.

after reading and listening to some of his material it does appear that he has become a very rigid individual because he believes he has such a lock on truth. Now...it's my way or the highway.

My general assessment is that he is brilliant and I'm sure he is doing a great service for many, just like Snuffer has done.

Everyone that is helping along in this transition toward "the truth" and away from man made constructs is beneficial. We all find help from those that inspire us. I find reading David Hawkins and Anthony De Mello to be of benefit to me.

[tmac]

Getting back to RS, I do have a couple basic, practical, where-the-rubber-meets-the-road type questions: What is his marital status? Does he have children?

Maybe it’s just me, but to me he comes across as someone who might be quite prone to being a micro-managing control freak. Is it just me?

The question I can’t help ask is how could a spouse and/or children ever measure up?

I’ve been around a few people like that, and, at least in my experience, it’s not much fun. And, if a person were evaluating the joy of living the gospel based on their vibe, aura and demeanor, it would generally not be very persuasive.

Thoughts?

This is going to deviate just a bit from the topic of Rob Smith, in particular, but I think that this brings up some things about God that we don’t like to think about a lot.

While I wouldn’t call God a “micro-managing control freak,” I know that, if most people experienced him in his fulness, they would be prone to think that about him. In actuality, he is “exacting” in his love for us. Read Hebrews 12. If you would be a son, you should expect rebukes, chastening, and scourging—not because God is mean, but because he loves you. Verses 7-8 go on say that if don’t “endure chastening,” you are a bastard, and not a son. There is a reason why the word “endure” is used. That chastening is unpleasant to anyone who does not have an accurate understanding of God’s love for them. Even the initial mercy that he extends towards us in forgiveness rests upon principles of justice that he must adhere to or he would cease to be God. And then beyond that mercy, there is an aspect of God that is so “firm” and “unyielding” that anyone who has not partaken of his love will see him as cruel and harsh when he is not.

God has the highest expectations of us. We should unfailingly rise to our best understanding of his expectations of us. To do anything else would be to expect him (and ourselves) to find lasting joy in being satisfied with our lower expectations for ourselves, and that just doesn’t happen—for him or for us (see Alma 41:10). The demands of justice will absolutely not allow it.

I suspect that you are right, and basically agree with what you have said here. From my perspective, however, in the grand gap between immortal theory and mortal reality, the primary reason that approach may work for God, but doesn't work for most (maybe all) mortals, is because the other thing that God can bring to the table, along with all the high expectations, chastening and work to improve us, is an absolute, crushing, all-encompassing, overwhelming love for us, as His children. Coming from God, ultimately the medicine will be much easier to swallow because it will be accompanied by at least a spoonful of sugar of His overwhelming love for us.

I realize that I may differ from others in terms of my current understanding of the concept of Charity -- i.e., the Pure Love of God. According to my evolved view and understanding, the concept describes the love God has for us. The most delicious fruit of the Tree of Life is the Love of God. And, the greatest gift of the spirit is the ability to be quickened by the spirit to the point of actually feeling and experiencing that love -/ as opposed to the idea that actual Charity might be our supposed ability to ever duplicate that love.

In any event, in the absence of that degree of accompanying love that only God can shower on His children, I think most mortal efforts to be as exacting, and to impose such high expectations on others, will meet with some degree of trouble and frustration.

[Ymarsakar]

Hell no. News flash, there are many gods and divine entities. Also dark entities. But everyone follows jeshua. Yea right humans, pull the other one at Nordstream

In modern Christianity we are conditioned to think of a single Godhead that has all the power and a single opposite force, Satan. However, this simplistic view is almost certainly not correct.

Why could Satan walk into God's presence and demand anything according to Job?
Why does God have a divine council with lesser beings?
Why does God say he turned the nations over to other God?
Why is Jehovah the chief among the Elohim if there is no other Elohim?

I would recommend Michael Heiser's book "The Unseen Realm" which explains things biblically.

viewtopic.php?p=1409365#p1409365

I tend to think heiser s divine counsel world view is mostly right. But this is a thread about the holy ghost.

Why do some rexognize her as speaking with the holy ghost but others do not? There can be many causes but i focus on the evidence for how a god works.

A god has a character and modus operandi. Being eternal or just about, they tend to have set habits. So in no way is a god gonna suddenly change how they talk to person a from person b. Nor is it the case that what they tell person a differs from person b.

Unlike other humans i am not moralizing. Whether rob s god is jeshua or not matters little to me. He is his own expert witness on this not me.

I do appreciate rob smith mentionomg how jeshua triggers the heck out of people and is rude as heck. People find me the same way and say it is not christ like. As if i give a damn what these fallen humans think of me. I report to 1 god and that is my god. Whether that is the same as the bible i care not.

I made it clear jeshua is a brother to me. That means if u really follow jeshua you would know his father and uncles and brothers. At least recognize a little.

Which i have seen. Some people just sense what i am. I dont tell them anything and they still know somehow.

Humans are full of sons of satan and sons of god and daughters of jeshua. Yes he had children too. So it is a free for all. So confusing here.

Lol nelson folkows jesbua too. Is his god my god? Heck no. Get ur mrna if u want to find out.

[Ymarsakar]

I really like Rob Smith's comment on polygamy (from the comments on the vid OP linked to (my emphasis)

---QUOTE---

"...We live in a world where hardly anyone who is married ought to be, and where anyone considering it is almost surely making an enormous mistake. People are so wicked that marriage (mono) has ceased to be something that most people should do, and has become something only very righteous people should do. Anyone else is walking into hell on earth when every reason has been given to expect precisely that.

If this is true of monogamous relationships, how much more true is it for polygamy, which is so much more difficult and unlikely to be beneficial. That being said, if someone wants to walk into the fire of whatever marriage they want, and I've said my peace about why they should not, I have nothing more to say about it, so long as they are not coercing others into doing so. I will not be among them, barring some unforeseen miracle greater than Moses parting the Red Sea. I believe the quality of people is so bad today that if I suddenly found myself as single as as an individually wrapped slice of cheese, I would be utterly without any example of anyone I'd ever want to entertain the idea of dating. I know far too much about human nature at this point, and I would not be surprised if all hypothetical righteous women felt the same about men.

I happen to have wonderful reasons why there is a time and a circumstance where, for very specific kinds of people, polygamy is the best possible option. But I know of none of what is required for that to be the case being around right now, at least from what I've seen.

Polygamy is not some gateway to heaven, nor is it the point of anything in and of itself. It's a consolation for the rarity of very good men and the existence of very good women, and it's still something that would only apply to very few of them who happened to see it as a good thing in their situation. I do not see any very good men or very good women right now, so what is the need to talk about any of this right now? Why not just focus on helping people become better men and women?

There are a million things to talk about that are more important than polygamy, not just because they all must be understood before this can be understood, but because they are also much more important than polygamy. No one will ever understand them while they are not yet living up to what they do understand. We can't just look past our willful sin and expect to understand or properly judge what lies beyond.

It seems to me that there are two kinds of people who will not stop bringing up polygamy: 1) those who know they are living in sin, and are desperate for some reason to write off one who is calling them out on it, and 2) those whose hearts of full of lust who love anything that allows their fantasy of what relationships are to continue.

I only bring up the topic because eventually some people will be living this for all the right reasons, and when they do, it will not be a red flag nor a sign that they had ulterior motives in anything else they did before. The point (again, much more general than polygamy) is that anyone who knows God better than you is going to believe in things that you do not believe. If your rule is to judge them by the similarity of what you presently believe, you will absolutely cut yourself off from knowing more about God than you presently do...."

---END QUOTE---


Personally I think a LOT of guys who support polygamy, either overtly or by implication, fall into the second category Rob lists - lustful older guys with bad marriages who stick with a wife they can't stand in hopes of getting to be able to do it "chastely" with a dozen hot girls in Eternity. Awful sad, debased and tragic. Because this is NOT being loyal to your marriage in life, it's just another form of adultery and betrayal.

Not bad. I mostly agree. Polygamy was so grail lines can be spread into the future to prevent satans from messong with the future.

I would not be surprised if jeshua had multiple vhildren by multiple women in order to reactivate humanity s dna 2000 years ago.

[Ymarsakar]

Does everything devolve into a discussion about polygamy?

Joseph and brigham are dead
Lds still arguing about polygamy and blaming dead people.

Usua human shenanigans. Dna so mixed

[Ymarsakar]

Getting back to RS, I do have a couple basic, practical, where-the-rubber-meets-the-road type questions: What is his marital status? Does he have children?

Maybe it’s just me, but to me he comes across as someone who might be quite prone to being a micro-managing control freak. Is it just me?

The question I can’t help ask is how could a spouse and/or children ever measure up?

I’ve been around a few people like that, and, at least in my experience, it’s not much fun. And, if a person were evaluating the joy of living the gospel based on their vibe, aura and demeanor, it would generally not be very persuasive.

Thoughts?

Rob is married and has children. He was military and, based on his posts, runs his house like military.
I think in many ways this is a good thing, however of course it can be damaging also.

I don't recall, but some other thread described him as writing all the time. Which is probably true since he has produced so much. In many of his videos he mentions how important writing is and how there is nothing more important. He then proceeds to record an hour-long video about something he has spoken about 10 times already.

In a video, which finally caused Rob to block me, he mocked his wife for starting a bench project and not being able to finish it. He had to stop writing and finish it for her. He then proceeds to sit on the bench, discuss how nice it is, and how he is glad he has it. However, he uses it as a lesson in how his activities are superior to his wife's and how we need to do the "best" thing to be holy.

He has also mentioned he went on something like 100 dates with different women until he found the "best" one.

I think Rob is like most top leaders. He has a vision of the way the world should be and you are either with him or against him. Differences and discussion are not tolerated.

Classic military trauma. No heart. Big brain discipline

[Ymarsakar]

Whether or not Rob is the OMAS, I thank God for sending someone who articulates, in words, what I have believed in my heart all my life and for the fruits a state of sinlessness has yielded in my life.

Do you know of a single thing that Rob is teaching that others are not? I know he talks a lot of being sinless, which I agree with, however this is a common teaching in fringe Christianity.
He talks about us needing to focus on God, which I agree with, however this is common.
He talks about the destructive times ahead, with I agree with, however this is common.

If you could sum up Rob Smith into a sentence, what would it be?

Now that i have seen more of him. Rob is channeling some entity or god. I dont know if it is jeshua but it is close enough.

But like i told u before. Even if rob was doing so, it does not benefit your path if your patb is tp become independent. Your god may wish for you to stop relying on humans. Where as rob s god tells him to help others be reliant on his writings.

This is no contradiction. Because ur personal god is not his personal god.

[naranjas]

Now that i have seen more of him. Rob is channeling some entity or god. I dont know if it is jeshua but it is close enough.

But like i told u before. Even if rob was doing so, it does not benefit your path if your patb is tp become independent. Your god may wish for you to stop relying on humans. Where as rob s god tells him to help others be reliant on his writings.

This is no contradiction. Because ur personal god is not his personal god.

isn't that also what you do? to channel some higher being??

[Ymarsakar]

Now that i have seen more of him. Rob is channeling some entity or god. I dont know if it is jeshua but it is close enough.

But like i told u before. Even if rob was doing so, it does not benefit your path if your patb is tp become independent. Your god may wish for you to stop relying on humans. Where as rob s god tells him to help others be reliant on his writings.

This is no contradiction. Because ur personal god is not his personal god.

isn't that also what you do? to channel some higher being??

All inspired writings are channeled from a meta mind, the human earth solar morphogenetic field.

All prophets communicated to god via channeling.

I do translation instead. Generally my god is not interested in mortals usually to channel through my senses.

[naranjas]

isn't that also what you do? to channel some higher being??

All inspired writings are channeled from a meta mind, the human earth solar morphogenetic field.

All prophets communicated to god via channeling.

I do translation instead. Generally my god is not interested in mortals usually to channel through my senses.

but doesn't ALL channeling imply a kind of translation (through the experience of the chaneler)?

I just don't see the difference in your reply to my inquiry.

then again, I wrote this (for a dating app profile hahah) "to heal is the only art, to translate the only craft, and life the only purpose/goal"

[Ymarsakar]

isn't that also what you do? to channel some higher being??

All inspired writings are channeled from a meta mind, the human earth solar morphogenetic field.

All prophets communicated to god via channeling.

I do translation instead. Generally my god is not interested in mortals usually to channel through my senses.

but doesn't ALL channeling imply a kind of translation (through the experience of the chaneler)?

I just don't see the difference in your reply to my inquiry.

then again, I wrote this (for a dating app profile hahah) "to heal is the only art, to translate the only craft, and life the only purpose/goal"

Ancient channeling used drugs peyote and trance to produce a possession. Via holy or unholy ghosts.

Modern channeling sometimes uses conscious unions. Aka mind melds.

Most likely an et pr angeliv dna acrivation. Humans have telepath bloodlines but most are suppressed.

I dont need drugs or meditation or trance.

Modern channelers usually dont understand what they are getting.

I am different in that i have a basic grasp of the info. And what i dont understand, i just sleep on it.

The info for me comes from the heart and mind. For rob i dont know if his heart is open.

I suspect rob has automatic writing or his vonnection to god truth comes through writing. Not uncommon. Cs lewis and tolkien had it too.

Most of my knowmedge is not from a higher being. For example the things i know here on the forum comes from my intellect, memory, experience, skills and powers. Not a god s power but my own skills.

[Grassland]

.

[Grassland]

Let me preface everything by saying I am not someone that has actively tried to identify the OMAS. And Denver Snuffer was really the only person who I even seriously considered as a possibility.

Most that either claim it or have it claimed in their behalf quickly disqualify themselves in my mind. Rob is not perfect, but he has not disqualified himself according to my judgement. He is the ONLY person in my 59.9 years that have asked them if they are the OMAS.

And there are several people that a HIGLY respect that have NOT disqualified themselves, but it just simply does not enter my mind that they are the OMAS.

Well, for a couple of days now, I have been getting a weird prompting to straight up ask Rob Smith if he is the OMAS. Then he posted the video linked below - he doesn't make any specific claims but he mentions the OMAS, and there is a ton of other stuff, I recommend giving it a listen with a broken heart and a contrite spirit.- suffice it to say, I have asked and I will not be sharing the response unless I am prompted to do so.

He is NOT THE OMAS!

I am horrified that there are people in this thread even considering Rob as anything other than a skilled Sociopath.

Rob is a beautiful cross between Mormon cult leader Phil Davis and Human Trafficker Andrew Tate. Both are Sociopath's. I am not trying to belittle Rob - I know he is a "son of God" just like everyone else here but the dude is not right in the head. Satan can influence us to go down strange roads and Rob is one of them. He flips out if people don't give him enough views on his videos and he rips on people for not reviewing his books and condemns them to hell. I've followed his writings from the beginning because he is fascinating to watch as a sociopath and nothing more. Sociopath's are skilled at making people listen to them and do what they say.

Rob didn't answer for or against him being the OMAS because he's skilled at manipulation. I'll tell you the answer: He ain't. He so ain't.

You been watching cnn and twitter?

So you believe Tate is a human trafficker and you think Rob is not right in the head.... hahaha

Do your research: https://youtu.be/uLqCS0esFPE

If you can't be bothered - Tate openly brags about taking millions from men and using women to do it. And that was two years ago. If you're on a steady diet of Candace Owens you'll be manipulated just like she was. He's a sociopath - so it's not hard to be taken in by him. Just like Rob. Just like Phil.
Top

[Grassland]

I guess the key is sanctification. I am not saying to not seek His face so much as I am making the point about if you have, and then use it as an ego boost, like, 'listen to me because I am more sanctified than you because I saw Jesus and you didn't.' When I get that vibe and it pushes me away.

I think I used to feel that way about Nephi. His brothers certainly felt that way about him. I pushed those feelings aside and tested the words. They're bearing fruit. Rob and I have since become good friends, though he's up in Montana and I'm here in Utah. If I ever feel bristled by something he says (or anyone else), I test the words. Because if he's right in saying that He's seen Jesus and someone else hasn't, then the one who hasn't can only draw two important conclusions. And that is worth considering.

Can you point me to where Rob describes, in detail, most of the interactions he has had with Jesus? Like other BoM prophets have done...

[marc]

Can you point me to where Rob describes, in detail, most of the interactions he has had with Jesus? Like other BoM prophets have done...

His story was available online years and years ago. If you email him, he might share those experiences with you. He has shared one of them in more detail with me because I asked him and he replied, but I asked for a very specific reason and not to just be nosy. I don't know if he'd share any with a stranger out of the blue, but I think if you sincerely ask him to share his testimony with you, he would if he knew it would help you draw nearer to our Savior. But if you are interested merely to satisfy your curiosity as a sort of interloper or eavesdropper, I'm not sure he'd give you what you want. I don't feel comfortable sharing publicly what he shared with me privately. But you can find bits and pieces in his videos where he describes some things he has witnessed. I can't remember which videos have which details, but they are there. So like the scriptures, you just have to start digging.

[ransomme]

I believe God’s plan places the highest priority on agency. Anyone who doesn’t want to live in plural marriage or support polygamy would never be forced to do so. If there were others who were actually capable of living it in a Godly way, why should anyone else have a problem with that? I.e., to each their own, live and let live, and do no harm.

Didn't you get the memo? You may not be forced, but you are damned if you don't (supposedly). But you know it's getting harder and harder to find those virgins.

Remember 132...

"3...for all those who have this law revealed unto them must obey the same. 4 For behold, I reveal unto you a new and an everlasting covenant; and if ye abide not that covenant, then are ye damned; for no one can reject this covenant and be permitted to enter into my glory."

That is, if you believe in such tall tales.

[Original_Intent]

Can you point me to where Rob describes, in detail, most of the interactions he has had with Jesus? Like other BoM prophets have done...

His story was available online years and years ago. If you email him, he might share those experiences with you. He has shared one of them in more detail with me because I asked him and he replied, but I asked for a very specific reason and not to just be nosy. I don't know if he'd share any with a stranger out of the blue, but I think if you sincerely ask him to share his testimony with you, he would if he knew it would help you draw nearer to our Savior. But if you are interested merely to satisfy your curiosity as a sort of interloper or eavesdropper, I'm not sure he'd give you what you want. I don't feel comfortable sharing publicly what he shared with me privately. But you can find bits and pieces in his videos where he describes some things he has witnessed. I can't remember which videos have which details, but they are there. So like the scriptures, you just have to start digging.

I personally think that Rob would inquire if he should, and I also suspect that someone coming from the direction grassland appears to be, the Rob would wither not answer, or be very curt with him.

When I first interacted with Rob, I went in sincerely curious, and based on a couple of our chats, my GUT tells me that he did talk to God about me and he was given the greenlight to discuss with me what I wanted to.

It makes me feel that, as Ymar would say, that Rob is talking to the same or a very similar God that I do. Not that I would follow him into the wilderness or anything if he asked - although I take him seriously enough that I would pray about it long and hard and see what if any answers came.

[ransomme]

Now that i have seen more of him. Rob is channeling some entity or god. I dont know if it is jeshua but it is close enough.

But like i told u before. Even if rob was doing so, it does not benefit your path if your patb is tp become independent. Your god may wish for you to stop relying on humans. Where as rob s god tells him to help others be reliant on his writings.

This is no contradiction. Because ur personal god is not his personal god.

isn't that also what you do? to channel some higher being??

All inspired writings are channeled from a meta mind, the human earth solar morphogenetic field.

All prophets communicated to god via channeling.

I do translation instead. Generally my god is not interested in mortals usually to channel through my senses.

There are many gods, which is yours?

[marc]

I personally think that Rob would inquire if he should, and I also suspect that someone coming from the direction grassland appears to be, the Rob would wither not answer, or be very curt with him.

When I first interacted with Rob, I went in sincerely curious, and based on a couple of our chats, my GUT tells me that he did talk to God about me and he was given the greenlight to discuss with me what I wanted to.

It makes me feel that, as Ymar would say, that Rob is talking to the same or a very similar God that I do. Not that I would follow him into the wilderness or anything if he asked - although I take him seriously enough that I would pray about it long and hard and see what if any answers came.

In my interactions with Rob, we've only ever talked about Jesus Christ, aka YHWH. Please see John 3:16. You've known me long enough here and on Facebook to know which God I worship. Rob has plainly always preached the gospel of Jesus Christ in his videos and in his books. All this talk of other gods here on LDSFF to me is just noise.

[ransomme]

Getting back to RS, I do have a couple basic, practical, where-the-rubber-meets-the-road type questions: What is his marital status? Does he have children?

Maybe it’s just me, but to me he comes across as someone who might be quite prone to being a micro-managing control freak. Is it just me?

The question I can’t help ask is how could a spouse and/or children ever measure up?

I’ve been around a few people like that, and, at least in my experience, it’s not much fun. And, if a person were evaluating the joy of living the gospel based on their vibe, aura and demeanor, it would generally not be very persuasive.

Thoughts?

This is going to deviate just a bit from the topic of Rob Smith, in particular, but I think that this brings up some things about God that we don’t like to think about a lot.

While I wouldn’t call God a “micro-managing control freak,” I know that, if most people experienced him in his fulness, they would be prone to think that about him. In actuality, he is “exacting” in his love for us. Read Hebrews 12. If you would be a son, you should expect rebukes, chastening, and scourging—not because God is mean, but because he loves you. Verses 7-8 go on say that if don’t “endure chastening,” you are a bastard, and not a son. There is a reason why the word “endure” is used. That chastening is unpleasant to anyone who does not have an accurate understanding of God’s love for them. Even the initial mercy that he extends towards us in forgiveness rests upon principles of justice that he must adhere to or he would cease to be God. And then beyond that mercy, there is an aspect of God that is so “firm” and “unyielding” that anyone who has not partaken of his love will see him as cruel and harsh when he is not.

God has the highest expectations of us. We should unfailingly rise to our best understanding of his expectations of us. To do anything else would be to expect him (and ourselves) to find lasting joy in being satisfied with our lower expectations for ourselves, and that just doesn’t happen—for him or for us (see Alma 41:10). The demands of justice will absolutely not allow it.

Was Moses doing his best? Or Saul? Or Alma the younger?

You might need to shift your paradigm somewhat to better understand mercy and how all the seemingly outliers fit in too.