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Revelation
5 And out of the throne proceeded lightnings and thunderings and voices: and there were seven lamps of fire burning before the throne, which are the seven Spirits of God.
6 And before the throne there was a sea of glass like unto crystal: and in the midst of the throne, and round about the throne, were four beasts full of eyes before and behind. (Hmm... The Holy Ghost.)
7 And the first beast was like a lion, and the second beast like a calf, and the third beast had a face as a man, and the fourth beast was like a flying eagle.
8 And the four beasts had each of them six wings about him; and they were full of eyes within: and they rest not day and night, saying, Holy, holy, holy, Lord God Almighty, which was, and is, and is to come.


This is exactly a Man who lives among a flying eagle (America,) like a calf or ox (Ephraim), and a first beast was like a Lion (Judah.) He is also Lord God Almighty who is The Holy, Holy, Holy Ghost who is Firstborn of Ephraim.


D&C 113:4 Behold, thus saith the Lord: It is a servant in the hands of Christ, who is partly a descendant of Jesse as well as of Ephraim, or of the house of Joseph, on whom there is laid much power.


Father = Ephraim = Firstborn = The Holy Ghost

Mother = Judah


The Firstborn of Ephraim


Jeremiah 31
9 They shall come with weeping, and with supplications will I lead them: I will cause them to walk by the rivers of waters in a straight way, wherein they shall not stumble: for I am a father to Israel, and Ephraim is my firstborn.


Jesus Christ is greater, but He will periodically check on us. The Holy Ghost will be here all the time.

Zechariah 4:14 Then said he, These are the two anointed ones, that stand by the Lord of the whole earth.

Two Anointed Ones or Two Messiahs or Two Christ's - they are all the same meaning.
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Which one will become the Covenant of David? The two olive trees - Ephraim and Judah and their Messiahs.


1 Chronicles 17
11 ¶ And it shall come to pass, when thy days be expired that thou must go to be with thy fathers, that I will raise up thy seed after thee, which shall be of thy sons; and I will establish his kingdom.
12 He shall build me an house, and I will stablish his throne for ever.
13 I will be his father, and he shall be my son: and I will not take my mercy away from him, as I took it from him that was before thee:
14 But I will settle him in mine house and in my kingdom for ever: and his throne shall be established for evermore.
15 According to all these words, and according to all this vision, so did Nathan speak unto David.


They both are: Jesus Christ is the Father, and The Holy Ghost will go through Davidic Servant to Son.


Mosiah
2 And because he dwelleth in flesh he shall be called the Son of God, and having subjected the flesh to the will of the Father, being the Father and the Son—
3 The Father, because he was conceived by the power of God; and the Son, because of the flesh; thus becoming the Father and Son—
4 And they are one God, yea, the very Eternal Father of heaven and of earth.


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Jesus Christ from Son to Father - Messiah 1

The Holy Ghost from Davidic Servant to Son - Messiah 2
(Read, like, Isaiah for this case, from David is Servant to Son.)

3 Nephi 20
43 Behold, my servant shall deal prudently; he shall be exalted and extolled and be very high.
44 As many were astonished at thee—his visage was so marred, more than any man, and his form more than the sons of men—
45 So shall he sprinkle many nations; the kings shall shut their mouths at him, for that which had not been told them shall they see; and that which they had not heard shall they consider


The level 6th or Seraphim to the level 7th or Archangel is exactly where the Holy Ghost is. Read the first chapter, Revelation chapter 4, and see multiple of the number 7 repeated, well, all throughout the Book Of Revelation - where he fits, for the Holy Ghost, is the 8th Archangel.


1 Thessalonians 1:
16 For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first:


2 Messiahs / 2 Christs
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I can accept two messiahs but not two Christs in this mortal probation

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Daniel 7
4 The first was like a lion, and had eagle’s wings: I beheld till the wings thereof were plucked, and it was lifted up from the earth, and made stand upon the feet as a man, and a man’s heart was given to it.

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This is true, the tradition tells of a Messiah ben David and a Messiah ben Joseph; one a spiritual savior and one temporal

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There will two witnesses in Jerusalem during Armageddon. I believe because of D&C 77 that John the Revelator will be one. I believe because of D&C 101 and 103 that Joseph Smith will be the other witness. However, I'm not sure about this because the Lord hasn't yet made these things completely clear to me. But I'm certain that whatever the Lord's plan is, it's a good one.

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TheDuke wrote: July 7th, 2023, 10:45 am I can accept two messiahs but not two Christs in this mortal probation
Messiah = Anointed One ~ Hebrew
Christ = Anointed One ~ Greek
logonbump wrote: July 7th, 2023, 11:18 am This is true, the tradition tells of a Messiah ben David and a Messiah ben Joseph; one a spiritual savior and one temporal
There are seven High Holy Days. The are three right around the Spring - Jesus Christ / Messiah is up to in Mortality. The 4th Day is done right between spring / summer where the Pentecost / The Holy Ghost finishes.

So, where are the last 3 Days? This is for Mortality for the Holy Ghost. Fall. 5 - The Day of Trumpets. 6 - The Day Of Atonement. 7 The Days Of Tabernacles

5 - The Day Of Trumpets - the call for a King. 9/23/2017 - Revelation 12.

6 - The Day of Atonement

Leviticus 16 - This is the day that has two Goats. One is called Jehovah and is sacrificed. The other is Azazel which is Hebrew for Power. It should not be named scapegoat. The Power / Goat is cast out.

The Power / Goat is cast out.

The Power / Goat is cast out.

They have no idea who this Goat is or what to do with it. The Jewish people would sometimes cast the "Scapegoat" down a cliff. This Power / Goat is your other Savior. He is the King Messiah of the Firstborn Ephraim.

I'll open the Bible Leviticus 16 later - the number 7 is used throughout this chapter which is, "Archangel." 😁

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Alaris wrote: July 7th, 2023, 12:10 pm
TheDuke wrote: July 7th, 2023, 10:45 am I can accept two messiahs but not two Christs in this mortal probation
Messiah = Anointed One ~ Hebrew
Christ = Anointed One ~ Greek
logonbump wrote: July 7th, 2023, 11:18 am This is true, the tradition tells of a Messiah ben David and a Messiah ben Joseph; one a spiritual savior and one temporal
There are seven High Holy Days. The are three right around the Spring - Jesus Christ / Messiah is up to in Mortality. The 4th Day is done right between spring / summer where the Pentecost / The Holy Ghost finishes.

So, where are the last 3 Days? This is for Mortality for the Holy Ghost. Fall. 5 - The Day of Trumpets. 6 - The Day Of Atonement. 7 The Days Of Tabernacles

5 - The Day Of Trumpets - the call for a King. 9/23/2017 - Revelation 12.

6 - The Day of Atonement

Leviticus 16 - This is the day that has two Goats. One is called Jehovah and is sacrificed. The other is Azazel which is Hebrew for Power. It should not be named scapegoat. The Power / Goat is cast out.

The Power / Goat is cast out.

The Power / Goat is cast out.

They have no idea who this Goat is or what to do with it. The Jewish people would sometimes cast the "Scapegoat" down a cliff. This Power / Goat is your other Savior. He is the King Messiah of the Firstborn Ephraim.

I'll open the Bible Leviticus 16 later - the number 7 is used throughout this chapter which is, "Archangel." 😁
I have no insight into the scriptures above, they are still written in Greek to me. I focus on the teachings of Joseph Smith vs. old testament quotations written for early times. They may help but alone, without direct revelation, they are too easy to interpret any way you desire (every day on FF).

Personally not too concerned of the definition as "anointed one". Christ is the "son", there is only one "son" per probation, one "father", these are positions and titles and one may progress to the level where they can, in the next probation take on that role, hence Jesus as the son can become the father, but not literally the father, it is by some form of adoption. These are different uses of the term father.

There are many fathers, world(s) of fathers, but only one Father (title position) for this creation/earth/mortality. Same with the Son/Christ/Redeemer. There may be many messiahs and prophets and arc-angels and angels, and great and noble ones; and many of the just men made perfect.

I neither accept nor reject the concept of the HG obtaining a body here. I haven't received that information. I know he is celestial and has a body all ready, just his title/office is in "spirit" only. He manages and controls the Light of Christ that communicates between our spirits and the spirits of all in this creation. There are many creations and one may progress up the chain as you show but I don't believe in this one creation. There is only one Christ/Redeemer required for this world. HG may well be the redeemer in the next creation, he may well be born here. I don't know and at this time it doesn't affect me so I'm not likely to get this revelation.

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Leviticus 16:5 And he shall take of the congregation of the children of Israel two kids of the goats for a sin offering, and one ram for a burnt offering.
6 And Aaron shall offer his bullock of the sin offering, which is for himself, and make an atonement for himself, and for his house.


This is one if the 7 High Holy Days, twice that bear 7 days - 7 days unleavened in Spring and 7 days for Tabernacles. This one above is The Atonement. Why on Earth does our Prophets talk about it? Because they don't talk at all with God. Russell Nelson - God doesn't have anything to say to him.



Leviticus 16:8 And Aaron shall cast lots upon the two goats; one lot for the Lord, and the other lot for the scapegoat. (Power)
9 And Aaron shall bring the goat upon which the Lord’s lot fell, and offer him for a sin offering.
10 But the goat, on which the lot fell to be the scapegoat (Power,) shall be presented alive before the Lord, to make an atonement with him, and to let him go for a scapegoat (Power) into the wilderness.


Ok...scapegoat is an incorrect translation. I remember this from BYU, scapegoat didn't even exist until Leviticus and the KJV offered there translation. The more accurate translation is Power. What doesn't the second power need? Lets read on...

Was it 7 days a week?
7 colors for the Rainbow? (Gays trying to win, but...)
7 archangels or spirits?
7 multi-combo Revelations?


Leviticus 16:14 And he shall take of the blood of the bullock, and sprinkle it with his finger upon the mercy seat eastward; and before the mercy seat shall he sprinkle of the blood with his finger seven times.
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19 And he shall sprinkle of the blood upon it with his finger seven times, and cleanse it, and hallow it from the uncleanness of the children of Israel.
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29 ¶ And this shall be a statute for ever unto you: that in the seventh month, on the tenth day of the month, ye shall afflict your souls, and do no work at all, whether it be one of your own country, or a stranger that sojourneth among you:


Ok, moving on ...


21 And Aaron shall lay both his hands upon the head of the live goat, and confess over him all the iniquities of the children of Israel, and all their transgressions in all their sins, putting them upon the head of the goat, and shall send him away by the hand of a fit man into the wilderness:


The 2nd "Power" goat receives all transgressions of Israel (and Gentiles, thank you Peter) - who does that sound like? The Holy Ghost

So, secondly the "Power" Goat is out into the wilderness. This is also similar to Revelations 12:


Revelations 12:5 And she brought forth a man child, who was to rule all nations with a rod of iron: and her child was caught up unto God, and to his throne.
6 And the woman fled into the wilderness, where she hath a place prepared of God, that they should feed her there a thousand two hundred and threescore days


The Atonement Day. The Wilderness. The Rod of Iron. The Davidic Servant and King Messiah of Joseph / Ephraim....The Holy Ghost.

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Alaris wrote: July 8th, 2023, 3:45 am
21 And Aaron shall lay both his hands upon the head of the live goat, and confess over him all the iniquities of the children of Israel, and all their transgressions in all their sins, putting them upon the head of the goat, and shall send him away by the hand of a fit man into the wilderness:


The 2nd "Power" goat receives all transgressions of Israel (and Gentiles, thank you Peter) - who does that sound like? The Holy Ghost
It sounds like Jesus to me, but I am interested in this thread.

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logonbump wrote: July 7th, 2023, 11:18 am This is true, the tradition tells of a Messiah ben David and a Messiah ben Joseph; one a spiritual savior and one temporal
The tradition does tell of two Messiah's, but the last portion "one spiritual and one temporal" seems to be where the interpretations of men come in. We simply assume one is spiritual and one is temporal, because we know there is only one Savior, but the tradition could simply mean that there are two individuals who will serve as Christ-types (perhaps the two great prophets in Revelation).

Regardless, we know from the OT that there is a Davidic Prince who is under the Davidic King, so why don't we attribute the Messiah Ben David to the Davidic Prince, since we know he is coming anyway?

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Alaris wrote: July 6th, 2023, 10:12 pm The Holy Ghost
You still have yet to account for the Lectures on Faith declaring the HG to not be a personage, but the mind of God, as if these weren't the doctrine portion of the D&C that Joseph attested to as doctrine throughout his entire ministry. How you place the teachings of men above the Lectures on Faith is beyond me.

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Atrasado wrote: July 7th, 2023, 11:27 am John the Revelator will be one.
The two witnesses die. John the Revelator is translated, he cannot die.

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Alaris wrote: July 8th, 2023, 3:45 am shall cast lots upon the two goats
The casting of lots upon the two goats means they were equal, that either one could have been chosen. This lets us know that neither was the Savior, because he had no equal. Only he could perform the atonement. The goat was also sacrificed alongside the bullock, which also does not point to Christ.

I would submit that Leviticus 16 is actually a prophecy of a latter-day sacrifice. Two goats of equal stature, the one goat being Joseph Smith who was sacrificed along with the bullock, his brother Hyrum. The scapegoat who had the sins of Israel placed upon him and who was driven out from the people was Sidney Rigdon, the only time we have had two prophets killed and one driven out. Not my idea though, that comes from the blogger Watcher.

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Shawn Henry wrote: July 10th, 2023, 3:12 pm
Alaris wrote: July 6th, 2023, 10:12 pm The Holy Ghost
You still have yet to account for the Lectures on Faith declaring the HG to not be a personage, but the mind of God, as if these weren't the doctrine portion of the D&C that Joseph attested to as doctrine throughout his entire ministry. How you place the teachings of men above the Lectures on Faith is beyond me.
Again you're missing the key truths here. the HG is a person, a god. He is acting in spirit as the spirit interface between all beings in this creation. He is spirit. He doesn't (yet per Alaris) have a body in this creation as his role is spirit. Conveying all truth, is "the mind of god". BTW it doesn't say the mind of Christ or of the Father but of god. The mind of god or the truths of god are manifest through the Light of Truth through out the universe from "god". the Holy Ghost routes those truths, which are the mind and will of god to our spirits via the Light of Christ. BTW Joseph clearly maps the "mind" to the "spirit" in the KFD, very cleanly using the terms together then interchangeably. With that fact, then the mind of god is his spirit.

The term "mind" does not mean a physical brain. It means his knowledge and his desires as to our roles and needs in this mortality. So, it flows easy that we learn the "mind" or "will" of god via the HG over the medium of the LoC which is a subset for this creation of the LoC as Jesus determines what light the HG may provide us given our level of progression and desires. Read KFD, 93 and take a look at the references in John Pratt's essay on LoC!

You're too deep to see the big picture and the meaning of even the basic terms in context of the larger discussion. Why and what the spirit needs to bring to us in mortality to have our personal missions fulfilled.

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TheDuke wrote: July 10th, 2023, 3:55 pm Again you're missing the key truths here. the HG is a person, a god. He is acting in spirit as the spirit interface between all beings in this creation. He is spirit. He doesn't (yet per Alaris) have a body in this creation as his role is spirit. Conveying all truth, is "the mind of god". BTW it doesn't say the mind of Christ or of the Father but of god. The mind of god or the truths of god are manifest through the Light of Truth through out the universe from "god". the Holy Ghost routes those truths, which are the mind and will of god to our spirits via the Light of Christ. BTW Joseph clearly maps the "mind" to the "spirit" in the KFD, very cleanly using the terms together then interchangeably. With that fact, then the mind of god is his spirit.

The term "mind" does not mean a physical brain. It means his knowledge and his desires as to our roles and needs in this mortality. So, it flows easy that we learn the "mind" or "will" of god via the HG over the medium of the LoC which is a subset for this creation of the LoC as Jesus determines what light the HG may provide us given our level of progression and desires. Read KFD, 93 and take a look at the references in John Pratt's essay on LoC!

You're too deep to see the big picture and the meaning of even the basic terms in context of the larger discussion. Why and what the spirit needs to bring to us in mortality to have our personal missions fulfilled.
No, scripture tells us what "key truths" are, not funeral sermons. If a sermon or teaching contradicts scripture, it is false. Joseph taught himself this very standard of judging truth by scripture.

The mind of God is his mind, just like your mind is your mind.

I'm ok with you believing differently, but at least have the intellectual honesty to acknowledge the face value of the teachings of the Lectures on Faith and let them say what they say.

If a work is specifically designed to describe the Godhead and that work leads with the HG being the mind of God and it not being a personage, then that is what it meant to say. Conversely, if the HG were a person, the Lectures so easily could have said that.

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1 We believe in God, the Eternal Father, and in His Son, Jesus Christ, and in the Holy Ghost.


We believe in three Gods.

Joseph also said that the Holy Ghost is now in a state of probation which if he should perform in righteousness he may pass through the same or a similar course of things that the Son has. (The Words of Joseph Smith, p. 245; standardized)


Dang


Joseph Smith (President)

But the Holy Ghost is yet a spiritual body and waiting to take to himself a body, as the Savior did or as God did or the gods before them took bodies; for the Savior says the work that my Father did do I also. . . . He took himself a body and then laid down his life that he might take it up again. (The Words of Joseph Smith, p. 382; standardized)


If you don't believe what Joseph Smith believes ... well ... Get that Lecture of Faith and enjoy yourselves. 🤓🧐

The Holy Ghost is in the Flesh ...

A little side note:
7

Also, there is a 7 of the Solar Eclipses, one in October and one in April 8, 2024 - my Dads birthday.
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Do not forget--there was 40 days behind the first 9/23/17 / Rosh Hoshana and the 1st of 7 years of ecliptic event.

Archangels are 7 (read about them in the "Ascension of Isaiah", and "Discourse of Abbaton", and "The Book of Enoch.")

Remember two Olive trees. One is Judah. And the other is Ephraim. Ephraim - the Firstborn. This is so simple.

The second goat Azazel has all of Israel sins (Gentiles as well.) This isn't some "Temporal" stuff. This is spiritual.
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1 And there appeared a great wonder in heaven; a woman clothed with the sun, and the moon under her feet, and upon her head a crown of twelve stars: ...
5 And she brought forth a man child, who was to rule all nations with a rod of iron: and her child was caught up unto God, and to his throne.


Fifth Trumpet. Rosh Hoshana - Trumpets - Here comes a King
6th Trumpet. The Day Atonement - that's right..Two Messiahs. Its happening now.
7th Tabernacles...in the near future. 7 days.

I have to say something: Joseph Smith was a prophet. Joseph Smith was also a Ephraimite.

6 Yea, thus saith the still small voice, which whispereth through and pierceth all things, and often times it maketh my bones to quake while it maketh manifest, saying:
7 And it shall come to pass that I, the Lord God, will send one mighty and strong, holding the scepter of power in his hand, clothed with light for a covering, whose mouth shall utter words, eternal words; while his bowels shall be a fountain of truth, to set in order the house of God, and to arrange by lot the inheritances of the saints whose names are found, and the names of their fathers, and of their children, enrolled in the book of the law of God;
8 While that man, who was called of God and appointed, that putteth forth his hand to steady the ark of God, shall fall by the shaft of death, like as a tree that is smitten by the vivid shaft of lightning.


Power = Azazel

Joseph Smith heard the same voice. The Holy Ghost is the same voice

Jesus Christ is speaking of the other Son of Man in Matthew 24 - The Holy Ghost.
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Lets say, I don't know, 50 percent have left of the Mormon church since Russell Russel has sold us the "benefits" of Vaccines, and 50 percent remain.

You follow me? (....about 50 perfect?)
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Matthew 25
1 Then shall the kingdom of heaven be likened unto ten virgins, which took their lamps, and went forth to meet the bridegroom.
2 And five of them were wise, and five were foolish. 3 They that were foolish took their lamps, and took no oil with them:
4 But the wise took oil in their vessels with their lamps.
5 While the bridegroom tarried, they all slumbered and slept.
6 And at midnight there was a cry made, Behold, the bridegroom cometh; go ye out to meet him.
7 Then all those virgins arose, and trimmed their lamps.
8 And the foolish said unto the wise, Give us of your oil; for our lamps are gone out.
9 But the wise answered, saying, Not so; lest there be not enough for us and you: but go ye rather to them that sell, and buy for yourselves.
10 And while they went to buy, the bridegroom came; and they that were ready went in with him to the marriage: and the door was shut.
11 Afterward came also the other virgins, saying, Lord, Lord, open to us.
12 But he answered and said, Verily I say unto you, I know you not.
13 Watch therefore, for ye know neither the day nor the hour wherein the Son of man cometh.


First of all, this is right after Matthew 24 that was translated by Joseph Smith.
Secondly - The Son of Man cannot be Jesus Christ. Jesus was a Son of God and a Son of Woman.
Thirdly, its us! ... and others: But primarily it is us!
Fourthly - which one is foolish and which of us is wise? Answer - the key to being wise is searching for God. Others look to primarily man and woman and not to God. (Polygamy - it isn't a mans decision to decide. No - it is Gods when he will)


D&C 112
25 And upon my house shall it begin, and from my house shall it go forth, saith the Lord;


That means .... Us. Ephraim...the Firstborn.

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I love it how he never once uses a name nor Jesus Christ. 2 Messiahs. 2 Christ's.

40 days / 40 days / 7 years / 7 days

7 years / 40 days 👇
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39 days / 6.5 years .... 🤕

Soon ...
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9/23/17 is the Day of Trumpets of the King. King of Jupiter. Jesus Christ is of the Venus. 2 Messiahs. 1 is Judah, and 1 is Ephraim or Firstborn.

40 days between the beginning of 7 years of the starting point of the American, and 40 days beginning of 9/23/17.

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Alaris wrote: July 21st, 2023, 3:03 pm
I love it how he never once uses a name nor Jesus Christ. 2 Messiahs. 2 Christ's.

40 days / 40 days / 7 years / 7 days

7 years / 40 days 👇

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39 days / 6.5 years .... 🤕

Soon ...

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9/23/17 is the Day of Trumpets of the King. King of Jupiter. Jesus Christ is of the Venus. 2 Messiahs. 1 is Judah, and 1 is Ephraim or Firstborn.

40 days between the beginning of 7 years of the starting point of the American, and 40 days beginning of 9/23/17.
So, putting it all together, what are you saying? Simplified that is.

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TheDuke wrote: July 21st, 2023, 4:52 pm
Alaris wrote: July 21st, 2023, 3:03 pm
I love it how he never once uses a name nor Jesus Christ. 2 Messiahs. 2 Christ's.

40 days / 40 days / 7 years / 7 days

7 years / 40 days 👇

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39 days / 6.5 years .... 🤕

Soon ...

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9/23/17 is the Day of Trumpets of the King. King of Jupiter. Jesus Christ is of the Venus. 2 Messiahs. 1 is Judah, and 1 is Ephraim or Firstborn.

40 days between the beginning of 7 years of the starting point of the American, and 40 days beginning of 9/23/17.
So, putting it all together, what are you saying? Simplified that is.
Well, I can't put it all together, but ...

The top video in my prior post is a good video. "Hidden" / "Marriage" - "Bridesmaids" 5 wise bridesmaids and 5 foolish bridesmaids.

The King of Ephraim / Firstborn is HIDDEN until he's ready which around the Day of Trumpets (5th of 7th High Holy Day) or The Day of Atonement, (6th of 7th High Holy Day, please God, am I right?), which comes, maybe, this year. If I am right, he's name is Azazel or Power (Power is always used in Old Testament, New Testament, The Book of Mormon, D&C, and the Apocryphal etc. ((Discourse of Abbaton, Ascension of Isaiah, Apocrypha of Abraham, The Book of Enoch, 3 Book of Enoch (((They should have named it "Metatron" but...or King of Ephraim / Firstborn))) 2 Messiahs. Is that enough?

The one thing I just can synthesize is the 2 Witnesses from the Book of Revelation. ? Two Anointed Ones? Two Witnesses? The King and the two Witnesses who die in Jerusalem? Huh? That just doesn't make sense. Unless - nobody believes them and they are already there = 2 Messiahs. Boomshakalaka

They are powerful witnesses, I'd say of the 7th Archangels.

Or the Antichrists which is Anti-Two-Antointed-Ones
5:50 is key

See, this man is ready to toss out the real two witnesses because of 2 Messiahs / Christ's.

2 Anointed Ones or Witnesses?
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Oh my gosh - is this the way? Are Two "Witnesses" separated by 2,000 years? Are taking away 2,000 years - once dies 2,000 years ago -> Jesus Christ, and the second is King of Ephraim, ... He dies in the near future. Can this happen?

The chapters are bound - Zechariah 4 and Revelation 11: we know who the Anointed Ones are in Zechariah 4. Hold on while I reread Revelation 11....

Oh my gosh!


Revelation 11
3 And I will give power unto my two witnesses (Martyrs / Greek), and they shall prophesy a thousand two hundred and threescore days, (3 and a half years) clothed in sackcloth.
4 These are the two olive trees, (Duh, ((I am slow, brothers and sisters)) One Olive Tree = Judah / Jesus Christ, and the other, Olive Tree is the Firstborn of Ephraim - The Holy Ghost) and the two candlesticks standing before the God of the earth (Heavenly Father)


Jesus Christ gave His sermon for 3 and a half years before dying and resurrecting. And no one will understand it - nobody, at least at first.


8 And their dead bodies shall lie in the street of the great city, which spiritually is called Sodom and Egypt, where also our Lord was crucified.
9 And they of the people and kindreds and tongues and nations shall see their dead bodies three days and an half, and shall not suffer their dead bodies to be put in graves.


Verse 8 - yes...our Lord dies in the same place....*Nodding*
Verse 9 - could have been only one, "nations shall see their dead bodies three days and a half" maybe ..."see" your dead body for 2 thousand years. Perhaps, John is future looking - he's just getting a few neighbors to listen, a mans who has died and has risen again, Jesus Christ. Make sense?


10 And they that dwell upon the earth shall rejoice over them, and make merry, and shall send gifts one to another; because these two prophets tormented them that dwelt on the earth.


Yep

11 And after three days and an half the Spirit of life from God entered into them, and they stood upon their feet; and great fear fell upon them which saw them.


Yep

13 And the same hour was there a great earthquake, and the tenth part of the city fell, and in the earthquake were slain of men seven thousand: and the remnant were affrighted, and gave glory to the God of heaven.

O.O

This is it! Seven thousand men! The King of Ephraim has reached to the Archangel - level 7.

The Great Earthquake happened when Jesus Christ died. Boomshakalaka

15 And the seventh angel sounded; and there were great voices in heaven, saying, The kingdoms of this world are become the kingdoms of our Lord, and of his Christ; and he shall reign for ever and ever.


Michael says, "The kingdoms ..." ... Duh! The kingdoms of our Lord, and of this Christ's, and the shall reign, Jesus checks and King Ephraim reigns, for ever and ever.


19 And the temple of God was opened in heaven, and there was seen in his temple the ark of his testament: and there were lightnings, and voices, and thunderings, and an earthquake, and great hail.


King Ephraim's fathers has carried his name down the generations of time, namely a "Firstborn" - from David (the 7th or 8th) through Solomon who was last / Firstborn. I don't know this for sure, but King Ephraim can withhold the Ark of this testament.
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Ok. Here we go.

The binary Eclipse across America creating a giant X.
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We have August 21, 2017 and September 23, 2017 which does: 40 days.
(That's my Dads birthday - April 8)
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9/23/17 | 40 days with the 7 years with the X.

Noah's ark goes on a sojourn (a temporary stay) for 40 days of Rain.
Moses went on a 40-day climbing around the Sinia Mountains in the Bible.
Abraham went on a 40-day fast in the Apocalypse of Abraham. (Jahoel / The Holy Ghost was helping)
Jesus went on a fasting for 40 days.
I went on a Coma for 39 says from November 13, 2020 to December 21 which is the Equinox. (There's are only two - December 21st to June 21st.) I also took a fast which cost me 75 lbs.
November 13 - I went to sleep via Coma, 2020
December 21 - I woke up, 2020



Does that help, TheDuke?


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Repentance and Forgiveness

40 days. August 21, 2017 was where the first eclipse was. 40 days was Revelation 12 on 9/23/2017 - this stuff is happening. Its Real.

I went on a 39-day coma or fast - 75 lbs lost. It was 3 years and 4 months when it ended from August 21, 2017 to December 21, 2020 (its a 39-day from November 13, 2020 to December 21, 2020.)
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On the other side, it would be from December 21st, 2020 until 3 years and 4 months until April 8, 2024 - the other Eclipse. My Dad's birthday back when he was alive. Do you read this! Are you understanding this!


D&C 113
3 What is the rod spoken of in the first verse of the 11th chapter of Isaiah, that should come of the Stem of Jesse? 4 Behold, thus saith the Lord: It is a servant in the hands of Christ, who is partly a descendant of Jesse as well as of Ephraim, or of the house of Joseph, on whom there is laid much power.


This is the 2nd Messiah. Jesus Christ had no father. The 2nd Messiah had a mother and a father.


Articles of Faith
1 We believe in God, the Eternal Father, and in His Son, Jesus Christ, and in the Holy Ghost.


3 Gods. The Holy Ghost - A Man. Ephraim on his father's side. He will gather all twelve tribes and Gentiles too.


Articles of Faith
10 We believe in the literal gathering of Israel and in the restoration of the Ten Tribes; that Zion (the New Jerusalem) will be built upon the American continent; that Christ will reign personally upon the earth; and, that the earth will be renewed and receive its paradisiacal glory.


The Holy Ghost is Firstborn.


Jeremiah 31
9 They shall come with weeping, and with supplications will I lead them: I will cause them to walk by the rivers of waters in a straight way, wherein they shall not stumble: for I am a father to Israel, and Ephraim is my firstborn.


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Also, The Discourse of Abbaton

http://lordoftheseraphim.blogspot.com/ ... .html?m=1

Jesus Christ Resurrects and teaches His Apostles a final lesson on His 40th day. There's Jesus Christ and who is King (God) Abaddon / Firstborn Ephraim / The Holy Ghost. It all starts with the beginning, Adam & Eve, and He wraps up in the end.

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The Nag Hammadi
The Gospel of Thomas
12. The disciples said to Jesus, "We know that you are going to leave us. Who will be our leader?"
Jesus said to them, "No matter where you are you are to go to James the Just, for whose sake heaven and earth came into being."


2 Messiahs

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Egypt and Syria both launched attacks on Israel on Yom Kippur, The Atonement Day, the prior Jubilee year, 1973.

3.5 years later, I was born, 4/4/77 11:11 AM on Passover with a Moon doing a partial / blood moon. I was the Davidic Servant .... Later, towards the next Jubilee, he goes from Lord of the Seraphim, to the 8th Archangel or King Messiah / Ephraim.

"September 16th is the first day of the Jewish month of Tishrei." 50 years, and we will have another Jubilee - all sins shall be removed, spiritual and temporal.
https://www.oneforisrael.org/sep/



Flash forward to 10:22

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We are at 41 days about to change from "repentance" to "renewing" - until the Day of Trumpets / also the Day of Jubilee - 5783 is the Israel Calendar Day. LDS Physician was the only reason I'd be here.

Now ... Concentrate on Two Messiahs.


Zechariah 13

7 ¶ Awake, O sword, against my shepherd, and against the man that is my fellow, saith the Lord of hosts: smite the shepherd, and the sheep shall be scattered: and I will turn mine hand upon the little ones.
8 And it shall come to pass, that in all the land, saith the Lord, two parts therein shall be cut off and die; but the third shall be left therein.
9 And I will bring the third part through the fire, and will refine them as silver is refined, and will try them as gold is tried: they shall call on my name, and I will hear them: I will say, It is my people: and they shall say, The Lord is my God.


This is the Day that last, well more than, 2,000 years. Jesus Christ quotes the seventh verse on the last night of This life. What was it? 70 AD and enter Romans "and the sheep shall be scattered..." Seventh through Nine are all one paragraph....in other words...

7th verse = 30 AD
8th verse = 2023 AD

First, watch this ...well watch 40:30 - 45:00

Jesus, totally, owns 24 chromosomes whereas Men have 48 chromosome. As I woke up this morning, I was thinking of this scripture (wake up when half of your brain falls asleep and half of your brain is alive + the spirit), and I realized, "Hey! Wait a minute!" Jesus had half a brain - the female half! Holy Cow! That's why Mary, the Jewish side, is the only Half! His male half is spiritual - Son of God. The Son of Man cannot be Jesus Christ - its the other guy. The 2 Messiahs. Joseph would have been Ephraim, right?

Dude
Half of your brain - X - 24 Chromosomes
The other half your brain - Y - 24 Chromosomes

Jesus - 1 Messiah - Judah of a Olive Tree
X - the half of your brain - 24 Chromosomes

King Messiah - 2 Messiah - Ephraim of a Olive Trees
XY - X is killed, through a Stroke, and he is sent to the wilderness ... And it sucks. He is suffering for 12 tribes and the 13th - the Gentiles for all their sins. The Lord of the Seraphim becomes The Lord of the Archangel -> Arch or Chief Messenger

Malachi 3
1 Behold, I will send my messenger, and he shall prepare the way before me: and the Lord, whom ye seek, shall suddenly come to his temple, even the messenger of the covenant, whom ye delight in: behold, he shall come, saith the Lord of hosts.
2 But who may abide the day of his coming? and who shall stand when he appeareth? for he is like a refiner’s fire, and like fullers’ soap:
3 And he shall sit as a refiner and purifier of silver: and he shall purify the sons of Levi, and purge them as gold and silver, that they may offer unto the Lord an offering in righteousness.


Then, 41 days, it will be Jubilee. Be ready.


8 And it shall come to pass, that in all the land, saith the Lord, two parts therein shall be cut off and die; but the third shall be left therein.


LORD means,

Behold the Nail
Behold the Hand

2 Messiahs
X / XY
(3 parts therein /\)

Leviticus 16 - The Atonement Day - Azazel goes to the wilderness.
Revelation 12 - The man child is now and the man child goes to the wilderness.


Zechariah 13
9 And I will bring the third part through the fire (wilderness), and will refine them as silver is refined, and will try them as gold is tried: they shall call on my name, and I will hear them: I will say, It is my people: and they shall say, The Lord is my God.
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