The Church has supported Vaccinations for Over 50 Years and This Is What The They Do

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The Red Pill wrote: May 22nd, 2023, 1:01 pm
Subcomandante wrote: May 22nd, 2023, 12:49 pm
The Red Pill wrote: May 22nd, 2023, 11:46 am

You are interesting Sub...no matter how many times you are shown factual reality...you spew falsehoods...

In reality...the polio "vax" didn't even steepen the trend line curve.

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You have been shown this before...numerous times.

Why do you persist in creating a false narrative about it?
Because your explanation of the graph is false. Why must you introduce a false reading?

Sanitization was improving quite a bit after the 2nd World War, but there was still polio going around, albeit in lesser numbers. The vaccine terminated polio pretty much everywhere until recently when you had a bunch of dark age-mentality people insist that the vaccines were no good without providing a viable alternative. Now, surprise, surprise, polio is coming back.
The graph speaks for itself Sub...I don't have to say a word.

Anybody with an IQ over 60 can see for themselves from the graph... that polio was almost completely eradicated BEFORE the polio vax came out.

Yet...there are those that hang onto the "Godsend" narrative that the polio vax "saved" us all.

You are really pushing the dark-age narrative lately...is that the new thing now?
My graph goes back to 1910, which destroys and debunks your narrative.

There were similar spikes before 1937, and dips as well. But after 1955, when the polio vaccine is introduced, there is the complete eradication of the disease in the United States until 2021, when an unvaccinated individual contracted the polio virus.

Worldwide, there were a few cases of vaccine-induced polio that numbered in the hundreds. That's a little less than TENS of THOUSANDS of cases just in one country, hundreds of thousands worldwide.

You guys really need to be better at math.
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Subcomandante wrote: May 22nd, 2023, 9:40 am
Atrasado wrote: May 22nd, 2023, 8:48 am Steve Kirsch has run an extremely important article on vaccinations, autism, and SIDS (sudden infant death syndrome). The Church has officially supported childhood vaccinations since around 1980. When is a prophet not a prophet? When they officially sign off on maiming and murdering children. That's when.
Vaccines do not maim people at a large scale. Polio did that to millions of people before the vaccines came. Now very few people suffer from polio.

Vaccines have saved billions of lives and they are a medical miracle of sorts. Perhaps even a Godsend.
I acknowledge that vaccines can be helpful, everyone knows that smallpox was eradicated by vaccines. However, modern vaccines are a nasty bunch and have undergone essentially no real safety testing. They are almost always tested against a previous vaccine. Whenever a doctor decides to compare his vaccinated populations against unvaccinated populations the unvaccinated populations are ALWAYS much healthier AND the state medical board then takes the doctors license away and the newspapers slander the doctor. That happened in Oregon a few years ago.

When we eradicated smallpox autistic symptoms were basically unknown. Now that the vaccination schedule has gone crazy autism is through the roof. The Amish don't get vaccinated and there has been 1 recorded case of autism among the Amish.

Modern vaccines are not a godsend. At all. They have made many people's lives hell and killed many children.
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Subcomandante wrote: May 22nd, 2023, 12:49 pm
The vaccine terminated polio pretty much everywhere until recently when you had a bunch of dark age-mentality people insist that the vaccines were no good without providing a viable alternative. Now, surprise, surprise, polio is coming back.
Sub, have you ever considered it is coming back because Bill Gates and others wants it to come back? Which would reinforce the current hysteria even further?

You like evidence?

Gates starts vaccinating against Polio in Africa as part of their mission

https://www.gatesfoundation.org/our-wor ... ment/polio

Africa suddenly has an outbreak of polio (wait before doubting your doubts)

Then some reports how vaccines are causing it
https://www.science.org/content/article ... ted-africa

People accept defects in products and ineffective tools in other industries but can't even let themselves see in the medical industry. Is it because that would mean we would have to admit to being lied to for so long?

Ok now we can file this away as coincidence. Ok literal godsends back on!

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Atrasado wrote: May 22nd, 2023, 1:13 pm ... everyone knows that smallpox was eradicated by vaccines. ...

Whenever a doctor decides to compare his vaccinated populations against unvaccinated populations the unvaccinated populations are ALWAYS much healthier

Modern vaccines are not a godsend. At all. They have made many people's lives hell and killed many children.
No not everyone falls for THAT lie about smallpox.

They are always much healthier for a very good reason. Vaccines do not work. They are poison and do not "boost the 'immune system'".

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Good & Global wrote: May 22nd, 2023, 1:16 pm
Subcomandante wrote: May 22nd, 2023, 12:49 pm
The vaccine terminated polio pretty much everywhere until recently when you had a bunch of dark age-mentality people insist that the vaccines were no good without providing a viable alternative. Now, surprise, surprise, polio is coming back.
Sub, have you ever considered it is coming back because Bill Gates and others wants it to come back? Which would reinforce the current hysteria even further?

You like evidence?

Gates starts vaccinating against Polio in Africa as part of their mission

https://www.gatesfoundation.org/our-wor ... ment/polio

Africa suddenly has an outbreak of polio (wait before doubting your doubts)

Then some reports how vaccines are causing it
https://www.science.org/content/article ... ted-africa

People accept defects in products and ineffective tools in other industries but can't even let themselves see in the medical industry. Is it because that would mean we would have to admit to being lied to for so long?

Ok now we can file this away as coincidence. Ok literal godsends back on!
Seven cases, all of which were resolved later on with that particular strain. The other one had about 700 cases. That's a far cry from the 1000 DAILY cases that were happening before the vaccine was introduced.

A simple math question.

Which number is greater?

1000 or 2?

2 being the average number of daily cases derived from one vaccine that was introduced to the population, versus 1000 BEFORE the vaccine?

Here is another math question for you:
Which number is bigger:
2 or 0.02?

The 0.02 corresponding with the average amount of DAILY cases derived from the improved vaccine from the first vaccine.

That's how science works: They look at a problem and they try to solve it. Once the solution is proven to be incomplete, then they complete it.

Try it sometime.

Once again:

1000 > 2 > 0.02

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madvin wrote: May 22nd, 2023, 1:19 pm
Atrasado wrote: May 22nd, 2023, 1:13 pm ... everyone knows that smallpox was eradicated by vaccines. ...

Whenever a doctor decides to compare his vaccinated populations against unvaccinated populations the unvaccinated populations are ALWAYS much healthier

Modern vaccines are not a godsend. At all. They have made many people's lives hell and killed many children.
No not everyone falls for THAT lie about smallpox.

They are always much healthier for a very good reason. Vaccines do not work. They are poison and do not "boost the 'immune system'".
You might want to take that up with George Washington who vaccinated his troops against smallpox. And your science is categorically false.

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Subcomandante wrote: May 22nd, 2023, 1:13 pm
The Red Pill wrote: May 22nd, 2023, 1:01 pm
Subcomandante wrote: May 22nd, 2023, 12:49 pm

Because your explanation of the graph is false. Why must you introduce a false reading?

Sanitization was improving quite a bit after the 2nd World War, but there was still polio going around, albeit in lesser numbers. The vaccine terminated polio pretty much everywhere until recently when you had a bunch of dark age-mentality people insist that the vaccines were no good without providing a viable alternative. Now, surprise, surprise, polio is coming back.
The graph speaks for itself Sub...I don't have to say a word.

Anybody with an IQ over 60 can see for themselves from the graph... that polio was almost completely eradicated BEFORE the polio vax came out.

Yet...there are those that hang onto the "Godsend" narrative that the polio vax "saved" us all.

You are really pushing the dark-age narrative lately...is that the new thing now?
My graph goes back to 1910, which destroys and debunks your narrative.

There were similar spikes before 1937, and dips as well. But after 1955, when the polio vaccine is introduced, there is the complete eradication of the disease in the United States until 2021, when an unvaccinated individual contracted the polio virus.

Worldwide, there were a few cases of vaccine-induced polio that numbered in the hundreds. That's a little less than TENS of THOUSANDS of cases just in one country, hundreds of thousands worldwide.

You guys really need to be better at math.
Sub Sub sub....

It doesn't matter if your graph goes back to Adam and Eve...that's completely irrelevant.

What matters is the trend line before and after the introduction of the "vax". The trend line was in a literal freefall...and did NOT alter in steepness on the graph one little bit...as in NO MEASURABLE change.

If the "vax" had been effective in any measurable way...you would expect to see a definite steepening immediately after the rollout...but that is NOT what happened...and that is NOT what the data show.

No sale Sub...

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Yes sub that is correct George Washington did do that, also similar situation. It is a pattern.

Man this feels like a mission to the vaccinated where they pull out their red lettered Book of Fauci and we talk as adults.

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Subcomandante wrote: May 22nd, 2023, 1:23 pm
madvin wrote: May 22nd, 2023, 1:19 pm
Atrasado wrote: May 22nd, 2023, 1:13 pm ... everyone knows that smallpox was eradicated by vaccines. ...

Whenever a doctor decides to compare his vaccinated populations against unvaccinated populations the unvaccinated populations are ALWAYS much healthier

Modern vaccines are not a godsend. At all. They have made many people's lives hell and killed many children.
No not everyone falls for THAT lie about smallpox.

They are always much healthier for a very good reason. Vaccines do not work. They are poison and do not "boost the 'immune system'".
You might want to take that up with George Washington who vaccinated his troops against smallpox. And your science is categorically false.
So George was not always right... shades of RMN. My science isn't mine. But it's the truth. and it exposes the false science of virology found today.

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Time to start the Leeching Godsends

https://allthatsinteresting.com/bloodletting

George Washington also had leeches administered when he had fallen ill.

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Subcomandante wrote: May 22nd, 2023, 9:40 am
Atrasado wrote: May 22nd, 2023, 8:48 am Steve Kirsch has run an extremely important article on vaccinations, autism, and SIDS (sudden infant death syndrome). The Church has officially supported childhood vaccinations since around 1980. When is a prophet not a prophet? When they officially sign off on maiming and murdering children. That's when.
Vaccines do not maim people at a large scale. Polio did that to millions of people before the vaccines came. Now very few people suffer from polio.

Vaccines have saved billions of lives and they are a medical miracle of sorts. Perhaps even a Godsend.
This claim that cannot be proved.

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Subcomandante wrote: May 22nd, 2023, 9:40 am
Atrasado wrote: May 22nd, 2023, 8:48 am Steve Kirsch has run an extremely important article on vaccinations, autism, and SIDS (sudden infant death syndrome). The Church has officially supported childhood vaccinations since around 1980. When is a prophet not a prophet? When they officially sign off on maiming and murdering children. That's when.
Vaccines do not maim people at a large scale. Polio did that to millions of people before the vaccines came. Now very few people suffer from polio.

Vaccines have saved billions of lives and they are a medical miracle of sorts. Perhaps even a Godsend.
It's a false claim that the polio vaccine was a huge success.
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Polio Vaccine
1955, they just happened to change the diagnostic standard just one year after they introduced the vaccine.
Changed from “Signs and symptoms of nonparalytic poliomyelitis with the addition of partial or complete paralysis of one or more muscle groups, detected on two examinations at least 24 hours apart.”
to
"residual paralysis was determined 10 to 20 days after onset of illness and again 50 to 70 days after onset" (so two checks in two months.)
Changing the criteria from one day to two months. I am sure that this wouldn't that have a statistically significant impact further driving down rates?
http://tetrahedron.org/polio-vaccine-di ... e-in-1955/

Essentially this change meant that in 1955 they started reporting on something different, namely, paralytic poliomyelitis with extended paralysis. So regardless of the vaccine post-1955 rates were going to drop. And the definition continues to be refined further differentiating things like Coxsackie virus infections and aseptic meningitis.

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Subcomandante wrote: May 22nd, 2023, 1:13 pm
The Red Pill wrote: May 22nd, 2023, 1:01 pm
Subcomandante wrote: May 22nd, 2023, 12:49 pm

Because your explanation of the graph is false. Why must you introduce a false reading?

Sanitization was improving quite a bit after the 2nd World War, but there was still polio going around, albeit in lesser numbers. The vaccine terminated polio pretty much everywhere until recently when you had a bunch of dark age-mentality people insist that the vaccines were no good without providing a viable alternative. Now, surprise, surprise, polio is coming back.
The graph speaks for itself Sub...I don't have to say a word.

Anybody with an IQ over 60 can see for themselves from the graph... that polio was almost completely eradicated BEFORE the polio vax came out.

Yet...there are those that hang onto the "Godsend" narrative that the polio vax "saved" us all.

You are really pushing the dark-age narrative lately...is that the new thing now?
My graph goes back to 1910, which destroys and debunks your narrative.

There were similar spikes before 1937, and dips as well. But after 1955, when the polio vaccine is introduced, there is the complete eradication of the disease in the United States until 2021, when an unvaccinated individual contracted the polio virus.

Worldwide, there were a few cases of vaccine-induced polio that numbered in the hundreds. That's a little less than TENS of THOUSANDS of cases just in one country, hundreds of thousands worldwide.

You guys really need to be better at math.
Sub, you are wrong about that. Truthfully vaccines are crap science that only take into account a narrow bandwidth off or of our immune systems.
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Has polio in India just been renamed? In India in 2012, they celebrated a whole year going by without a polio death. Great news, yay! But have you heard of non-polio acute flaccid paralysis? A new study revealed that rates of non-polio acute flaccid paralysis (NPAFP) have increased 1200% since the oral polio vaccine was introduced a decade ago. Bear in mind NPAFP is "clinically indistinguishable" from wild polio. Clinically. Indistinguishable!

The cure can be worse than the disease.
http://healthimpactnews.com/2014/the-va ... last-year/

Nonpolio Acute Flaccid Paralysis linked to Oral Polio Vaccine Studies linked the oral polio vaccine they used to increased rates of Nonpolio Acute Flaccid Paralysis (NPAFP). In fact, it looks like they traded +/- 5,000 cases of polio a year for tens of thousands of cases of NPAFP. And NPAFP is clinically indistinguishable from polio paralysis but is twice as fatal, Consequently, it appears that they paralyzed and killed more through their vaccination program than if they had done nothing.
http://pediatrics.aappublications.org/c ... nt_1/S16.2

https://www.issuesinmedicalethics.org/a ... alley=html
https://scroll.in/pulse/803485/if-india ... olio-virus
https://academic.oup.com/jid/article/192/12/2033/838973
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Subcomandante wrote: May 22nd, 2023, 12:49 pm
The Red Pill wrote: May 22nd, 2023, 11:46 am
Subcomandante wrote: May 22nd, 2023, 9:40 am

Vaccines do not maim people at a large scale. Polio did that to millions of people before the vaccines came. Now very few people suffer from polio.

Vaccines have saved billions of lives and they are a medical miracle of sorts. Perhaps even a Godsend.
You are interesting Sub...no matter how many times you are shown factual reality...you spew falsehoods...

In reality...the polio "vax" didn't even steepen the trend line curve.

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You have been shown this before...numerous times.

Why do you persist in creating a false narrative about it?
Because your explanation of the graph is false. Why must you introduce a false reading?

Sanitization was improving quite a bit after the 2nd World War, but there was still polio going around, albeit in lesser numbers. The vaccine terminated polio pretty much everywhere until recently when you had a bunch of dark age-mentality people insist that the vaccines were no good without providing a viable alternative. Now, surprise, surprise, polio is coming back.
So in 1952, sanitation was discovered and polio jumped off a cliff?

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Subcomandante wrote: May 22nd, 2023, 1:23 pm
madvin wrote: May 22nd, 2023, 1:19 pm
Atrasado wrote: May 22nd, 2023, 1:13 pm ... everyone knows that smallpox was eradicated by vaccines. ...

Whenever a doctor decides to compare his vaccinated populations against unvaccinated populations the unvaccinated populations are ALWAYS much healthier

Modern vaccines are not a godsend. At all. They have made many people's lives hell and killed many children.
No not everyone falls for THAT lie about smallpox.

They are always much healthier for a very good reason. Vaccines do not work. They are poison and do not "boost the 'immune system'".
You might want to take that up with George Washington who vaccinated his troops against smallpox. And your science is categorically false.
Smallpox vaccine was not good.

* only 5–10% of the population was ever vaccinated so it’s impossible to credit the smallpox vaccine with reducing cases over the entire population.

* Before England's first compulsory vaccination law in 1853, the largest two-year smallpox death rate was about 2,000; in 1870-71, England and Wales had over 23,000 smallpox deaths

* In the early 1900's, the Philippines experienced their worst smallpox epidemic ever after 8 million people received 24.5 million vaccine doses (achieving a vaccination rate of 95%); the death rate quadrupled as a result.

* Japan experienced yearly increases in small pox following the introduction of compulsory vaccines in 1872. By 1892, there were 29,979 deaths, and all had been vaccinated.

* Again, sometimes the cure is worse than the disease. The next diagram shows smallpox deaths vs deaths due to the smallpox vaccine.
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Subcomandante wrote: May 22nd, 2023, 11:00 am :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
madvin wrote: May 22nd, 2023, 9:53 am Polio was caused by vaccines and DDT. Vaccines do do something: they poison one's system with its ingredients. Vaccines are based on the false germ hypothesis. One does not "build up" one's immunity by poison. The germ hypothesis says so, but the germ construct is FALSE.

Germ hypothesis has been derived from a pseudoscientific sleight of hand with no validation. Doctors and scientists are indoctrinated into a germ "theory" dogma who are akin to a religion and appealing to authority. Unfortunately, there is no valid science whatsoever to back up their beliefs. Germ "theory" history is rife with political involvement, fear based agendas, erroneous testing methods, racketeering, superstition, story telling, silencing of truth tellers, suppression or demonizing of alternative theories, destruction of natural medicine fields and of course massive profit agendas.

No valid scientific claims have been made to prove contagion from either a bacterium or a virus. No virus has ever been properly purified, isolated or shown to cause any disease.

No infection study has been performed from a pure isolate of any germ. In order to attempt to make a healthy host sick, there are always poisons and other tissue materials involved, and even then, the results do not adhere to Koch’s postulates or even the altered River’s Criteria, of which had to be designed in a hopeful attempt to manipulate the proofs to serve the theory, the very opposite of how the scientific method is to be observed.
For decades the polio vaccine was contaminated with sv-40 which can cause tumors and cancer. Who knows how many people got that because of their vaccine?

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So we got Duke and Sub being on the anti conspiracy side.

Who wants to bet on the underdog here? ; ) I mean, given the track record and all...

Ihave seen these types of internet arguments before and engaged in a few as well. The most recent erlevant one would be the issue about mrna waxination shots in 2021. From January to September, it was one big giant mega thread where people on both sides hashed it out.

All I can say is that I/we on the awakening to conspiracy side survived with little health damage if any at all. I don't know what happened to the unawakened or those who said there ain't such thing as these conspiracies.

Like I wrote, kind of hard to do the whole 2019 dog and pony show about conspiracies and secret combinations not being realistic, in 2023. If they are lying about this, what else are they lying about?

And did previous waxinations help make sure people did not question the qabal's existence?

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silverado wrote: May 22nd, 2023, 3:40 pm
Subcomandante wrote: May 22nd, 2023, 11:00 am :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
madvin wrote: May 22nd, 2023, 9:53 am Polio was caused by vaccines and DDT. Vaccines do do something: they poison one's system with its ingredients. Vaccines are based on the false germ hypothesis. One does not "build up" one's immunity by poison. The germ hypothesis says so, but the germ construct is FALSE.

Germ hypothesis has been derived from a pseudoscientific sleight of hand with no validation. Doctors and scientists are indoctrinated into a germ "theory" dogma who are akin to a religion and appealing to authority. Unfortunately, there is no valid science whatsoever to back up their beliefs. Germ "theory" history is rife with political involvement, fear based agendas, erroneous testing methods, racketeering, superstition, story telling, silencing of truth tellers, suppression or demonizing of alternative theories, destruction of natural medicine fields and of course massive profit agendas.

No valid scientific claims have been made to prove contagion from either a bacterium or a virus. No virus has ever been properly purified, isolated or shown to cause any disease.

No infection study has been performed from a pure isolate of any germ. In order to attempt to make a healthy host sick, there are always poisons and other tissue materials involved, and even then, the results do not adhere to Koch’s postulates or even the altered River’s Criteria, of which had to be designed in a hopeful attempt to manipulate the proofs to serve the theory, the very opposite of how the scientific method is to be observed.
For decades the polio vaccine was contaminated with sv-40 which can cause tumors and cancer. Who knows how many people got that because of their vaccine?
Thali whatever was deemed safe. Then they pulled it cause of the horrendous birth defects. oops.

Saturated fat was bad mmkay, I think. Then maybe not.

This bio weapon field is not my chosen field of hobby expertise, that is more Madvin's chosen field of focus. So I won't debate the merits/details usually.

However, theory of gravity and vacuum, I got that one ; )

Military strategy and tactics

Hand to hand tactics

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silverado wrote: May 22nd, 2023, 3:40 pm
Subcomandante wrote: May 22nd, 2023, 11:00 am :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
madvin wrote: May 22nd, 2023, 9:53 am Polio was caused by vaccines and DDT. Vaccines do do something: they poison one's system with its ingredients. Vaccines are based on the false germ hypothesis. One does not "build up" one's immunity by poison. The germ hypothesis says so, but the germ construct is FALSE.

Germ hypothesis has been derived from a pseudoscientific sleight of hand with no validation. Doctors and scientists are indoctrinated into a germ "theory" dogma who are akin to a religion and appealing to authority. Unfortunately, there is no valid science whatsoever to back up their beliefs. Germ "theory" history is rife with political involvement, fear based agendas, erroneous testing methods, racketeering, superstition, story telling, silencing of truth tellers, suppression or demonizing of alternative theories, destruction of natural medicine fields and of course massive profit agendas.

No valid scientific claims have been made to prove contagion from either a bacterium or a virus. No virus has ever been properly purified, isolated or shown to cause any disease.

No infection study has been performed from a pure isolate of any germ. In order to attempt to make a healthy host sick, there are always poisons and other tissue materials involved, and even then, the results do not adhere to Koch’s postulates or even the altered River’s Criteria, of which had to be designed in a hopeful attempt to manipulate the proofs to serve the theory, the very opposite of how the scientific method is to be observed.
For decades the polio vaccine was contaminated with sv-40 which can cause tumors and cancer. Who knows how many people got that because of their vaccine?
Another person that does not know math.

Eight years is not "decades." It isn't even one decade.

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/25057632/

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ransomme wrote: May 22nd, 2023, 3:18 pm
Subcomandante wrote: May 22nd, 2023, 1:23 pm
madvin wrote: May 22nd, 2023, 1:19 pm

No not everyone falls for THAT lie about smallpox.

They are always much healthier for a very good reason. Vaccines do not work. They are poison and do not "boost the 'immune system'".
You might want to take that up with George Washington who vaccinated his troops against smallpox. And your science is categorically false.
Smallpox vaccine was not good.

* only 5–10% of the population was ever vaccinated so it’s impossible to credit the smallpox vaccine with reducing cases over the entire population.

* Before England's first compulsory vaccination law in 1853, the largest two-year smallpox death rate was about 2,000; in 1870-71, England and Wales had over 23,000 smallpox deaths

* In the early 1900's, the Philippines experienced their worst smallpox epidemic ever after 8 million people received 24.5 million vaccine doses (achieving a vaccination rate of 95%); the death rate quadrupled as a result.

* Japan experienced yearly increases in small pox following the introduction of compulsory vaccines in 1872. By 1892, there were 29,979 deaths, and all had been vaccinated.

* Again, sometimes the cure is worse than the disease. The next diagram shows smallpox deaths vs deaths due to the smallpox vaccine.

Screenshot_20230523-001417.jpg

Cherry picked data is cherry picked.

Vaccines got better over time to the point where deaths attributable to vaccination against smallpox were less than a hundred throughout the 1950s. Your graph only goes into the 1920s, and it is obvious why...because the vax deaths drop off precipitously after that time.

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What sub is calling waxxine benefits is not from waxxines but from something called herd immunity.

Satan loves messing with mortals by switching cause and effect around. So they create a problem and then say they solved the problem with a solution. But the solution came from god's chosen, not satan's chosen.

The same way virulent diseases either burn people out or they become resistant/immune to it, so the same applies to radiation, wifi, and waxxine poisons. But that doesn't mean people are healthy just because herd immunity has adapted the human bio electric body to radar radiation and wifi.

Eventually they will find a pathogen or weapon that is the feather that broke the camel's back. 2020 they thought they had it. But no, they had to try again.

The human divine DNA is like cockroaches. It is extremely difficult to kill off god's creation. So long as there is a remnant of 2 or 3 or 4, they will repopulate.

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Re: The Church has supported Vaccinations for Over 50 Years and This Is What The They Do

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Subcomandante wrote: May 22nd, 2023, 3:56 pm
silverado wrote: May 22nd, 2023, 3:40 pm
Subcomandante wrote: May 22nd, 2023, 11:00 am :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
For decades the polio vaccine was contaminated with sv-40 which can cause tumors and cancer. Who knows how many people got that because of their vaccine?
Another person that does not know math.

Eight years is not "decades." It isn't even one decade.

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/25057632/
Oh that must make you feel superior, to point out I was wrong in the length of time. Eight years or decades either way it was contaminated for a long while with sv-40 and that can cause tumors and cancer. We don't know how many people were affected.

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Re: The Church has supported Vaccinations for Over 50 Years and This Is What The They Do

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silverado wrote: May 22nd, 2023, 7:40 pm
Subcomandante wrote: May 22nd, 2023, 3:56 pm
silverado wrote: May 22nd, 2023, 3:40 pm

For decades the polio vaccine was contaminated with sv-40 which can cause tumors and cancer. Who knows how many people got that because of their vaccine?
Another person that does not know math.

Eight years is not "decades." It isn't even one decade.

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/25057632/
Oh that must make you feel superior, to point out I was wrong in the length of time. Eight years or decades either way it was contaminated for a long while with sv-40 and that can cause tumors and cancer. We don't know how many people were affected.
A whole lot MORE people would be affected if this was truly a multidecadal event like you suggested.

The good thing though about science is that once it detects a problem, it tries to rectify it as much as it can, and this is what happened with subsequent strains of the vaccine that did NOT have the simian virus contaminant.

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Re: The Church has supported Vaccinations for Over 50 Years and This Is What The They Do

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The Red Pill wrote: May 22nd, 2023, 1:28 pm
Subcomandante wrote: May 22nd, 2023, 1:13 pm
The Red Pill wrote: May 22nd, 2023, 1:01 pm

The graph speaks for itself Sub...I don't have to say a word.

Anybody with an IQ over 60 can see for themselves from the graph... that polio was almost completely eradicated BEFORE the polio vax came out.

Yet...there are those that hang onto the "Godsend" narrative that the polio vax "saved" us all.

You are really pushing the dark-age narrative lately...is that the new thing now?
My graph goes back to 1910, which destroys and debunks your narrative.

There were similar spikes before 1937, and dips as well. But after 1955, when the polio vaccine is introduced, there is the complete eradication of the disease in the United States until 2021, when an unvaccinated individual contracted the polio virus.

Worldwide, there were a few cases of vaccine-induced polio that numbered in the hundreds. That's a little less than TENS of THOUSANDS of cases just in one country, hundreds of thousands worldwide.

You guys really need to be better at math.
Sub Sub sub....

It doesn't matter if your graph goes back to Adam and Eve...that's completely irrelevant.

What matters is the trend line before and after the introduction of the "vax". The trend line was in a literal freefall...and did NOT alter in steepness on the graph one little bit...as in NO MEASURABLE change.

If the "vax" had been effective in any measurable way...you would expect to see a definite steepening immediately after the rollout...but that is NOT what happened...and that is NOT what the data show.

No sale Sub...
Did Washington Vaccinate or did he expose them to others with the disease and reach herd immunity. In the vaccine world those are two very different matters and in today's world they are in opposition to each other. So how would you describe what Washington did? Vaccinate or Herd Immunity?

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Re: The Church has supported Vaccinations for Over 50 Years and This Is What The They Do

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Subcomandante wrote: May 22nd, 2023, 8:24 pm
silverado wrote: May 22nd, 2023, 7:40 pm
Subcomandante wrote: May 22nd, 2023, 3:56 pm

Another person that does not know math.

Eight years is not "decades." It isn't even one decade.

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/25057632/
Oh that must make you feel superior, to point out I was wrong in the length of time. Eight years or decades either way it was contaminated for a long while with sv-40 and that can cause tumors and cancer. We don't know how many people were affected.
A whole lot MORE people would be affected if this was truly a multidecadal event like you suggested.

The good thing though about science is that once it detects a problem, it tries to rectify it as much as it can, and this is what happened with subsequent strains of the vaccine that did NOT have the simian virus contaminant.
There are allegations that infected vaccine seed was used in some of the vaccines for 40 years.

Anyway an estimated 10-30 million Americans may have received a contaminated polio vaccine in those 8 years.

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