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Steve Kirsch has run an extremely important article on vaccinations, autism, and SIDS (sudden infant death syndrome). The Church has officially supported childhood vaccinations since around 1980. When is a prophet not a prophet? When they officially sign off on maiming and murdering children. That's when.

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It's actually been over 100 years. From the days of Lorenzo Snow.

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Atrasado wrote: May 22nd, 2023, 8:48 am Steve Kirsch has run an extremely important article on vaccinations, autism, and SIDS (sudden infant death syndrome). The Church has officially supported childhood vaccinations since around 1980. When is a prophet not a prophet? When they officially sign off on maiming and murdering children. That's when.
Vaccines do not maim people at a large scale. Polio did that to millions of people before the vaccines came. Now very few people suffer from polio.

Vaccines have saved billions of lives and they are a medical miracle of sorts. Perhaps even a Godsend.

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I'm guessing that the Church would use the same logic that vaccine supporters in general use.

That logic being yes there are vaccine injuries but they save more lives than they harm.

Mrna vaccines are different because they weren't effective and they caused injury. Conventional vaccines were at least effective.

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Polio was caused by vaccines and DDT. Vaccines do do something: they poison one's system with its ingredients. Vaccines are based on the false germ hypothesis. One does not "build up" one's immunity by poison. The germ hypothesis says so, but the germ construct is FALSE.

Germ hypothesis has been derived from a pseudoscientific sleight of hand with no validation. Doctors and scientists are indoctrinated into a germ "theory" dogma who are akin to a religion and appealing to authority. Unfortunately, there is no valid science whatsoever to back up their beliefs. Germ "theory" history is rife with political involvement, fear based agendas, erroneous testing methods, racketeering, superstition, story telling, silencing of truth tellers, suppression or demonizing of alternative theories, destruction of natural medicine fields and of course massive profit agendas.

No valid scientific claims have been made to prove contagion from either a bacterium or a virus. No virus has ever been properly purified, isolated or shown to cause any disease.

No infection study has been performed from a pure isolate of any germ. In order to attempt to make a healthy host sick, there are always poisons and other tissue materials involved, and even then, the results do not adhere to Koch’s postulates or even the altered River’s Criteria, of which had to be designed in a hopeful attempt to manipulate the proofs to serve the theory, the very opposite of how the scientific method is to be observed.

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Further Germ Theory Vs Terrain Theory statement by Dr. Volmer:

“Bold claims require substantial evidence. When it comes to the belief that germs are the cause of disease, rather than the result of a disease process producing a cytopathic effect, the evidence should be simple to produce. Remove the exudate from an individual with a specific set of symptoms, filter out the other materials, isolate, measure, weigh, categorize and take photographs of the germ in question, inoculate it into a healthy individual, this should produce the exact same symptoms, remove the exudate from that individual, filter out the materials, match the sample with the first sample and these should be identical.

Do this with a very large sample size. To date, we do not have these studies. Instead we have a glaring lack of evidence, a fabrication of particles using computer models and toxic lab techniques, glaring leaps of logic in regard to cause and effect of a disease process in the living organism.

They say people can be asymptomatic carriers and this can make others sick, with no evidence of such. We have a faulty explanation of contagion completely ignoring other possible trends to return the body to homeostasis such as pheromones, energy fields, familial lineage, common exposures to toxins, foods or stress, and cyclical triggers such as seasonal changes. The modern medical model was based on Rockefeller medicine that bullied its way to the top using germ theory as its weapon and the Flexner report as its armor.

The one germ causing one disease idea is simply, a fallacy. Those of us seasoned in natural healing practices know when we assist the body to cleanse itself and provide ample biochemical nutrition, clean water and other supportive determinants of health, such as rest, the body heals. A recent study claims that of our 30 trillion human cells, we have on average about 39 trillion microbial cells (1). So by that measure, we’re only about 43% human, the rest are the germs.

This information alone should make us pause to question the war we have waged for far too long in ignorance upon the micro-organisms that serve our lives. It is time for a scientific revolution, as the wise author Thomas Kuhn predicted would come, as the truth can never die and eventually will always shine its light, hopefully this time in the halls of medicine and science, so that we can flourish once again with clear logic, true knowledge, in vibrant health and grounded awareness and never be tricked again by con men who use clever statistics and magic to lead us astray.”

(1) https://www.voanews.com/a/research-esti ... 32876.html

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Subcomandante wrote: May 22nd, 2023, 9:40 am
Atrasado wrote: May 22nd, 2023, 8:48 am Steve Kirsch has run an extremely important article on vaccinations, autism, and SIDS (sudden infant death syndrome). The Church has officially supported childhood vaccinations since around 1980. When is a prophet not a prophet? When they officially sign off on maiming and murdering children. That's when.
Vaccines do not maim people at a large scale. Polio did that to millions of people before the vaccines came. Now very few people suffer from polio.

Vaccines have saved billions of lives and they are a medical miracle of sorts. Perhaps even a Godsend.
The “Polio epidemic “ was caused by injecting the polio vaccine into millions of people. Stopping the injections stopped the epidemic. It is very simple.

See this 2009 report: https://thenewamerican.com/a-brief-hist ... nizations/
“ And back to the United States again; in 1977 the developer of the first polio vaccine, Dr. Jonas Salk, testified with other scientists that the cause of most polio cases in the United States since 1961 was the inoculation itself. A revealing 1990 article about measles in the Journal of the American Medicine Association pointed out that: "Although more than 95% of school-aged children in the US are vaccinated against measles, large measles outbreaks continue to occur in schools and most cases in this setting occur among previously vaccinated children."

To stop all pandemics just hold all vaccine manufacturers liabible for vaccine injuries and damages instead of pushing these costs off on the US taxpayers . If vaccines are so good then let these manufacturers take responsibility for the results!

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madvin wrote: May 22nd, 2023, 9:53 am Polio was caused by vaccines and DDT. Vaccines do do something: they poison one's system with its ingredients. Vaccines are based on the false germ hypothesis. One does not "build up" one's immunity by poison. The germ hypothesis says so, but the germ construct is FALSE.

Germ hypothesis has been derived from a pseudoscientific sleight of hand with no validation. Doctors and scientists are indoctrinated into a germ "theory" dogma who are akin to a religion and appealing to authority. Unfortunately, there is no valid science whatsoever to back up their beliefs. Germ "theory" history is rife with political involvement, fear based agendas, erroneous testing methods, racketeering, superstition, story telling, silencing of truth tellers, suppression or demonizing of alternative theories, destruction of natural medicine fields and of course massive profit agendas.

No valid scientific claims have been made to prove contagion from either a bacterium or a virus. No virus has ever been properly purified, isolated or shown to cause any disease.

No infection study has been performed from a pure isolate of any germ. In order to attempt to make a healthy host sick, there are always poisons and other tissue materials involved, and even then, the results do not adhere to Koch’s postulates or even the altered River’s Criteria, of which had to be designed in a hopeful attempt to manipulate the proofs to serve the theory, the very opposite of how the scientific method is to be observed.
Again, really, B.........................Sh...................t. Show me. You've been on this many times and we've discussed the facts that can be seen in labs and stuff. I'm not a lab person, but my wife is, etc.. and you only come back with some off-beat Dr (supposedly anyway) story, like the Russia gate thing. Sorry, but this is so wrong and statistics show it, as does the life expectancy, baby survival rates and lack of true epidemics and pandemics for the past century.

Worse, either falsely or accidently espousing this hurts real people, as said before your dispensing medical advise w/o a license (according to the LDS FF of medical advise) and if ONE person dies from you saying this your a MURDERER. I mean that is the level of accusation on FF, is it not? You've been warned. Pretty tired, frankly of both sides claiming "facts" and "truths" while avoiding the real world science.

This isn't the flat earth and fake NASA BS on here as NASA cannot hurt you and no one has fallen off the edge of the flat earth no matter how hard they try. But, keeping an innocent, but slightly less intelligent person from being vaxed and getting polio or measles and dying because of your post is a risk.

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I think vaccines have bennefit but I also believe they are contributing to autism.

You might be choosing between a child with crippling polio or autism. Analyzing risk and making choices is part of the human condition and part of the trials we are sent here to experience.

I have a problem with agency being taken away. Provide the data and let people make their own choices. If you have to sell your vaccine with fear and emotion rather than its own merits, I am going to reject it. If you are telling me that your vaccine doesn't protect you unless I am vaccinated, then it doesn't work.

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:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
madvin wrote: May 22nd, 2023, 9:53 am Polio was caused by vaccines and DDT. Vaccines do do something: they poison one's system with its ingredients. Vaccines are based on the false germ hypothesis. One does not "build up" one's immunity by poison. The germ hypothesis says so, but the germ construct is FALSE.

Germ hypothesis has been derived from a pseudoscientific sleight of hand with no validation. Doctors and scientists are indoctrinated into a germ "theory" dogma who are akin to a religion and appealing to authority. Unfortunately, there is no valid science whatsoever to back up their beliefs. Germ "theory" history is rife with political involvement, fear based agendas, erroneous testing methods, racketeering, superstition, story telling, silencing of truth tellers, suppression or demonizing of alternative theories, destruction of natural medicine fields and of course massive profit agendas.

No valid scientific claims have been made to prove contagion from either a bacterium or a virus. No virus has ever been properly purified, isolated or shown to cause any disease.

No infection study has been performed from a pure isolate of any germ. In order to attempt to make a healthy host sick, there are always poisons and other tissue materials involved, and even then, the results do not adhere to Koch’s postulates or even the altered River’s Criteria, of which had to be designed in a hopeful attempt to manipulate the proofs to serve the theory, the very opposite of how the scientific method is to be observed.

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Subcomandante wrote: May 22nd, 2023, 9:40 am
Atrasado wrote: May 22nd, 2023, 8:48 am Steve Kirsch has run an extremely important article on vaccinations, autism, and SIDS (sudden infant death syndrome). The Church has officially supported childhood vaccinations since around 1980. When is a prophet not a prophet? When they officially sign off on maiming and murdering children. That's when.
Vaccines do not maim people at a large scale. Polio did that to millions of people before the vaccines came. Now very few people suffer from polio.

Vaccines have saved billions of lives and they are a medical miracle of sorts. Perhaps even a Godsend.
This comment right here about polio tells me you know nothing about polio. Most people who get polio never know they have it. It is an aberration to have it cause paralysis. Those who do experience temporary paralysis are fine within 90 days. Longer paralysis is incredibly rare.

Most polio today is from the polio vaccine.
Frequency
30 (wild) + 856 (vaccine-derived) in 2022[4]
Where did I learn this? From the CDC website before it was cleaned up. Where can you still fnd it? wikipedia. Read it all, pay attention the data. Click on the links. I would write more, but we've already been down this road together. So I won't waste my time again this is wilful ignorance and deceit in your part at this point.

Stop spreading propaganda.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polio

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JuneBug12000 wrote: May 22nd, 2023, 11:19 am
Subcomandante wrote: May 22nd, 2023, 9:40 am
Atrasado wrote: May 22nd, 2023, 8:48 am Steve Kirsch has run an extremely important article on vaccinations, autism, and SIDS (sudden infant death syndrome). The Church has officially supported childhood vaccinations since around 1980. When is a prophet not a prophet? When they officially sign off on maiming and murdering children. That's when.
Vaccines do not maim people at a large scale. Polio did that to millions of people before the vaccines came. Now very few people suffer from polio.

Vaccines have saved billions of lives and they are a medical miracle of sorts. Perhaps even a Godsend.
This comment right here about polio tells me you know nothing about polio. Most people who get polio never know they have it. It is an aberration to have it cause paralysis. Those who do experience temporary paralysis are fine within 90 days. Longer paralysis is incredibly rare.

Most polio today is from the polio vaccine.
Frequency
30 (wild) + 856 (vaccine-derived) in 2022[4]
Where did I learn this? From the CDC website before it was cleaned up. Where can you still fnd it? wikipedia. Read it all, pay attention the data. Click on the links. I would write more, but we've already been down this road together. So I won't waste my time again this is wilful ignorance and deceit in your part at this point.

Stop spreading propaganda.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polio
Cases of polio before polio vaccines: MILLIONS

Cases of polio after polio vaccine: Less than a hundred.

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Subcomandante wrote: May 22nd, 2023, 9:40 am
Atrasado wrote: May 22nd, 2023, 8:48 am Steve Kirsch has run an extremely important article on vaccinations, autism, and SIDS (sudden infant death syndrome). The Church has officially supported childhood vaccinations since around 1980. When is a prophet not a prophet? When they officially sign off on maiming and murdering children. That's when.
Vaccines do not maim people at a large scale. Polio did that to millions of people before the vaccines came. Now very few people suffer from polio.

Vaccines have saved billions of lives and they are a medical miracle of sorts. Perhaps even a Godsend.
You may have a hard time convincing people like RFK Jr. that the benefits of vaccinations far outweigh the risk of disease. As he explains it, the vaccine target virus or bacteria may be eradicated along with its associated disease outcome, but the chance of contracting another disease or death that go unnoticed and were not previously known to be associated with the vaccine target disease is killing or maiming 10X the number of children.

I think that's the point of this thread--we are just now digging deeper into the data and finding death and disease outcomes previously not linked to vaccines .Vaccines may have beneficial outcomes and prevent a disease, but what is not included in the vaccine studies are other previously unlinked-to-the-vaccine death and serious disease outcomes.

As in this short clip from RFK Jr points out, some countries are now going back and looking at clinical data from years and years of vaccination of children and sure enough, the target disease was reduced or even eradicated, but the children who were vaccinated also experienced 10X more death or disease outcomes than they would have without the vaccine.

https://rumble.com/v2ohmcu-recipients-o ... -rate.html

What we signed up for with a prophet of God is the hope that the prophetic word would warn us in advance, be a watchman on the tower, and keep us from evil and harm. When events or data like this indicate that a prophet or many prophets may have led us down a path that results in injury, disease, and death, its time to ask, who are these watchman on the tower? And why are we following their prophetic word?

As Dr. Peter McCoullogh pointed out this weekend, the fully natural kids with no vaccines, have better health outcomes, in every study so far, than the kids who are getting their vaccinations. Is this the age of "by their sorcery were all the nations of the earth deceived?" And I would add, were all the prophets of the earth deceived as well.

https://rumble.com/v2parrw-health-outco ... e-to-.html
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Subcomandante wrote: May 22nd, 2023, 9:40 am
Atrasado wrote: May 22nd, 2023, 8:48 am Steve Kirsch has run an extremely important article on vaccinations, autism, and SIDS (sudden infant death syndrome). The Church has officially supported childhood vaccinations since around 1980. When is a prophet not a prophet? When they officially sign off on maiming and murdering children. That's when.
Vaccines do not maim people at a large scale. Polio did that to millions of people before the vaccines came. Now very few people suffer from polio.

Vaccines have saved billions of lives and they are a medical miracle of sorts. Perhaps even a Godsend.
You are interesting Sub...no matter how many times you are shown factual reality...you spew falsehoods...

In reality...the polio "vax" didn't even steepen the trend line curve.
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You have been shown this before...numerous times.

Why do you persist in creating a false narrative about it?

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And then there's the influence propaganda from the corporate mainstream media has on the vaccination dilemma. As in this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zI3yU5Z2adI

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This is proof that faith that they would work preceded the miracle of the literal godsend being introduced
(see Vaxxiticus chapter 20 verse 20 in the standard works)

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The Red Pill wrote: May 22nd, 2023, 11:46 am
Subcomandante wrote: May 22nd, 2023, 9:40 am
Atrasado wrote: May 22nd, 2023, 8:48 am Steve Kirsch has run an extremely important article on vaccinations, autism, and SIDS (sudden infant death syndrome). The Church has officially supported childhood vaccinations since around 1980. When is a prophet not a prophet? When they officially sign off on maiming and murdering children. That's when.
Vaccines do not maim people at a large scale. Polio did that to millions of people before the vaccines came. Now very few people suffer from polio.

Vaccines have saved billions of lives and they are a medical miracle of sorts. Perhaps even a Godsend.
You are interesting Sub...no matter how many times you are shown factual reality...you spew falsehoods...

In reality...the polio "vax" didn't even steepen the trend line curve.

Screenshot_20230123_072256_Gallery.jpg

You have been shown this before...numerous times.

Why do you persist in creating a false narrative about it?
I remember showing this to him before. He never responded...

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Subcomandante wrote: May 22nd, 2023, 9:40 am
Atrasado wrote: May 22nd, 2023, 8:48 am Steve Kirsch has run an extremely important article on vaccinations, autism, and SIDS (sudden infant death syndrome). The Church has officially supported childhood vaccinations since around 1980. When is a prophet not a prophet? When they officially sign off on maiming and murdering children. That's when.
Vaccines do not maim people at a large scale. Polio did that to millions of people before the vaccines came. Now very few people suffer from polio.

Vaccines have saved billions of lives and they are a medical miracle of sorts. Perhaps even a Godsend.
According to my personal physician, who originally practiced pediatrics, vaccines are not that effective and don't live up to their wonder drug hype. Some work better than others, but none of them give the kind of immunity they claim. So the best that can be said about them is maybe they slow down a pandemic, and they do have side effects.

Vaccines are high level inflammatories. Cancer and other deadly diseases are caused by inflammation. They contain preservatives, like mercury ( Thimersoral), which is a known poison. The pharmaceutical companies tell you this stuff is not harmful, but they cover up the truth here. My doctor had a story about actually confronting Big Pharma about this that would just curl your hair, or stand it straight up on end as the case may be. They know it's bad and they lie about it.

I worked as a medical lab asst back in my college days and can personally vouch for the fact that vaccine caused immunity is temporary at best. . The church joined in on a WHO measles campaign about a decade ago, and 6 weeks later routine swab testing was done on the kids, showing the average immunity was already down to 60%. That must be why they have to keep going over there and keep going over there, costing millions upon millions of dollars, to keep vaccinating again and again. It seems odd to me that when self reliance is a principle of the gospel, we make people dependent like this, as well as make it a big freebie, etc. As a kid I never had the regular measles and I was never vaccinated, but it was a common childhood disease that no one EVER died of. Why are kids in Africa dying of it? Why do measles complications overwhelm them? IMO Finding this out and teaching them how to do something about it would be worth something.

And not one child had to be crippled from Polio. Not one. There was an actual cure for that which proved effective in every single case it was applied. But is this known today? No. And I could go on for three days straight giving more examples like this.

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The Red Pill wrote: May 22nd, 2023, 11:46 am
Subcomandante wrote: May 22nd, 2023, 9:40 am
Atrasado wrote: May 22nd, 2023, 8:48 am Steve Kirsch has run an extremely important article on vaccinations, autism, and SIDS (sudden infant death syndrome). The Church has officially supported childhood vaccinations since around 1980. When is a prophet not a prophet? When they officially sign off on maiming and murdering children. That's when.
Vaccines do not maim people at a large scale. Polio did that to millions of people before the vaccines came. Now very few people suffer from polio.

Vaccines have saved billions of lives and they are a medical miracle of sorts. Perhaps even a Godsend.
You are interesting Sub...no matter how many times you are shown factual reality...you spew falsehoods...

In reality...the polio "vax" didn't even steepen the trend line curve.

Screenshot_20230123_072256_Gallery.jpg

You have been shown this before...numerous times.

Why do you persist in creating a false narrative about it?
Because your explanation of the graph is false. Why must you introduce a false reading?

Sanitization was improving quite a bit after the 2nd World War, but there was still polio going around, albeit in lesser numbers. The vaccine terminated polio pretty much everywhere until recently when you had a bunch of dark age-mentality people insist that the vaccines were no good without providing a viable alternative. Now, surprise, surprise, polio is coming back.

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InfoWarrior82 wrote: May 22nd, 2023, 12:21 pm
The Red Pill wrote: May 22nd, 2023, 11:46 am
Subcomandante wrote: May 22nd, 2023, 9:40 am

Vaccines do not maim people at a large scale. Polio did that to millions of people before the vaccines came. Now very few people suffer from polio.

Vaccines have saved billions of lives and they are a medical miracle of sorts. Perhaps even a Godsend.
You are interesting Sub...no matter how many times you are shown factual reality...you spew falsehoods...

In reality...the polio "vax" didn't even steepen the trend line curve.

Screenshot_20230123_072256_Gallery.jpg

You have been shown this before...numerous times.

Why do you persist in creating a false narrative about it?
I remember showing this to him before. He never responded...
He must not realize that when he intentionally ignores the truth, especially when it has been shown him again and again, it causes the rest of us to question his integrity, or his intelligence, or both.

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Subcomandante wrote: May 22nd, 2023, 12:49 pm
The Red Pill wrote: May 22nd, 2023, 11:46 am
Subcomandante wrote: May 22nd, 2023, 9:40 am

Vaccines do not maim people at a large scale. Polio did that to millions of people before the vaccines came. Now very few people suffer from polio.

Vaccines have saved billions of lives and they are a medical miracle of sorts. Perhaps even a Godsend.
You are interesting Sub...no matter how many times you are shown factual reality...you spew falsehoods...

In reality...the polio "vax" didn't even steepen the trend line curve.

Screenshot_20230123_072256_Gallery.jpg

You have been shown this before...numerous times.

Why do you persist in creating a false narrative about it?
Because your explanation of the graph is false. Why must you introduce a false reading?

Sanitization was improving quite a bit after the 2nd World War, but there was still polio going around, albeit in lesser numbers. The vaccine terminated polio pretty much everywhere until recently when you had a bunch of dark age-mentality people insist that the vaccines were no good without providing a viable alternative. Now, surprise, surprise, polio is coming back.
The graph speaks for itself Sub...I don't have to say a word.

Anybody with an IQ over 60 can see for themselves from the graph... that polio was almost completely eradicated BEFORE the polio vax came out.

Yet...there are those that hang onto the "Godsend" narrative that the polio vax "saved" us all.

You are really pushing the dark-age narrative lately...is that the new thing now?

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TheDuke wrote: May 22nd, 2023, 10:18 am
madvin wrote: May 22nd, 2023, 9:53 am Polio was caused by vaccines and DDT. Vaccines do do something: they poison one's system with its ingredients. Vaccines are based on the false germ hypothesis. One does not "build up" one's immunity by poison. The germ hypothesis says so, but the germ construct is FALSE.

Germ hypothesis has been derived from a pseudoscientific sleight of hand with no validation. Doctors and scientists are indoctrinated into a germ "theory" dogma who are akin to a religion and appealing to authority. Unfortunately, there is no valid science whatsoever to back up their beliefs. Germ "theory" history is rife with political involvement, fear based agendas, erroneous testing methods, racketeering, superstition, story telling, silencing of truth tellers, suppression or demonizing of alternative theories, destruction of natural medicine fields and of course massive profit agendas.

No valid scientific claims have been made to prove contagion from either a bacterium or a virus. No virus has ever been properly purified, isolated or shown to cause any disease.

No infection study has been performed from a pure isolate of any germ. In order to attempt to make a healthy host sick, there are always poisons and other tissue materials involved, and even then, the results do not adhere to Koch’s postulates or even the altered River’s Criteria, of which had to be designed in a hopeful attempt to manipulate the proofs to serve the theory, the very opposite of how the scientific method is to be observed.
Again, really, B.........................Sh...................t. Show me. You've been on this many times and we've discussed the facts that can be seen in labs and stuff. I'm not a lab person, but my wife is, etc.. and you only come back with some off-beat Dr (supposedly anyway) story, like the Russia gate thing. Sorry, but this is so wrong and statistics show it, as does the life expectancy, baby survival rates and lack of true epidemics and pandemics for the past century.

Worse, either falsely or accidently espousing this hurts real people, as said before your dispensing medical advise w/o a license (according to the LDS FF of medical advise) and if ONE person dies from you saying this your a MURDERER. I mean that is the level of accusation on FF, is it not? You've been warned. Pretty tired, frankly of both sides claiming "facts" and "truths" while avoiding the real world science.

This isn't the flat earth and fake NASA BS on here as NASA cannot hurt you and no one has fallen off the edge of the flat earth no matter how hard they try. But, keeping an innocent, but slightly less intelligent person from being vaxed and getting polio or measles and dying because of your post is a risk.
Why are you so reticent about the truth? Interesting you write B...............Sh.............t when you might as well write out the actual words. Which, btw, describes your position much better than mine.

Supposed doctor? She's a naturopath, a much better resource than the pill pushers you love. And a scientist who has done a lot of lab work as well.

Amandha D Vollmer
BSc, Herbalist, Reiki Master,
Holistic Health Practitioner,
Degree of Doctor of Naturopathic Medicine

Russiagate thing?? What are you talking about?

Holy moly, why do you bring in flat earth? What does that have to do with anything?

I don't think you're listening. You have preconceived notions that actually block the truth.

So, show you what? In order to break the spell you are under, you've got to open up your mind a little. I can show you massive information, but I'd apparently be wasting my time.

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Re: The Church has supported Vaccinations for Over 50 Years and This Is What The They Do

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Subcomandante wrote: May 22nd, 2023, 11:00 am :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
madvin wrote: May 22nd, 2023, 9:53 am Polio was caused by vaccines and DDT. Vaccines do do something: they poison one's system with its ingredients. Vaccines are based on the false germ hypothesis. One does not "build up" one's immunity by poison. The germ hypothesis says so, but the germ construct is FALSE.

Germ hypothesis has been derived from a pseudoscientific sleight of hand with no validation. Doctors and scientists are indoctrinated into a germ "theory" dogma who are akin to a religion and appealing to authority. Unfortunately, there is no valid science whatsoever to back up their beliefs. Germ "theory" history is rife with political involvement, fear based agendas, erroneous testing methods, racketeering, superstition, story telling, silencing of truth tellers, suppression or demonizing of alternative theories, destruction of natural medicine fields and of course massive profit agendas.

No valid scientific claims have been made to prove contagion from either a bacterium or a virus. No virus has ever been properly purified, isolated or shown to cause any disease.

No infection study has been performed from a pure isolate of any germ. In order to attempt to make a healthy host sick, there are always poisons and other tissue materials involved, and even then, the results do not adhere to Koch’s postulates or even the altered River’s Criteria, of which had to be designed in a hopeful attempt to manipulate the proofs to serve the theory, the very opposite of how the scientific method is to be observed.
Gee, THAT was meaningful. I didn't think you had anything to add.

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Re: The Church has supported Vaccinations for Over 50 Years and This Is What The They Do

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There is a video you have to search to find it but Fauci interview on CBS news or 60 minutes from 10 years ago
He was asked what is the best way to defend against SARS or corona virus 1. He said to get it.

That that was far more effective than any shot they could give. Becuase your body knew how to make specific antibodies for it.

It still is on the internet but hard to find. Surprised it still exists.

But we sustain the literal godsend. It is far more safer and effective than what God created with our natural bodies.

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Re: The Church has supported Vaccinations for Over 50 Years and This Is What The They Do

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InfoWarrior82 wrote: May 22nd, 2023, 12:21 pm
The Red Pill wrote: May 22nd, 2023, 11:46 am
Subcomandante wrote: May 22nd, 2023, 9:40 am

Vaccines do not maim people at a large scale. Polio did that to millions of people before the vaccines came. Now very few people suffer from polio.

Vaccines have saved billions of lives and they are a medical miracle of sorts. Perhaps even a Godsend.
You are interesting Sub...no matter how many times you are shown factual reality...you spew falsehoods...

In reality...the polio "vax" didn't even steepen the trend line curve.

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You have been shown this before...numerous times.

Why do you persist in creating a false narrative about it?
I remember showing this to him before. He never responded...
Stupor of thought

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