Conspiracy on j smith s death

[Ymarsakar]

https://youtu.be/rRD28EEowL0

The carthage jail. Was it done by the lds brethren and not just the mob?

Masons were everywhere and perhaps joseph had naively welcomed them in. Many could be good but some would be those luciferians.

When anyone suppresses investigation like on jfk and 911. I get suspicious.

But i dont think it was brigham. Cutting off j smith from brigham led to a distorted plural marriage but the so called luciferians were already mirroring it with spiritual wifery. In time j smith could have created somethijg closer to the divine download instructions akin to polyandry. Many love relationships like community kitchens and households. But that timeline was cut off if smith died.

This is the same channel that interviewed the former luciferian. They revealed that the luks taught apotheosis and a shadow mirror of restoration. This is a classic tactic much as the ukraine khazarians did with russia. Pretend u are x. Kill x. Have peoppe blame x. Escape as y.

[Reluctant Watchman]

https://youtu.be/rRD28EEowL0

The carthage jail. Was it done by the lds brethren and not just the mob?

Masons were everywhere and perhaps joseph had naively welcomed them in. Many could be good but some would be those luciferians.

When anyone suppresses investigation like on jfk and 911. I get suspicious.

But i dont think it was brigham. Cutting off j smith from brigham led to a distorted plural marriage but the so called luciferians were already mirroring it with spiritual wifery. In time j smith could have created somethijg closer to the divine download instructions akin to polyandry. Many love relationships like community kitchens and households. But that timeline was cut off if smith died.

This is the same channel that interviewed the former luciferian. They revealed that the luks taught apotheosis and a shadow mirror of restoration. This is a classic tactic much as the ukraine khazarians did with russia. Pretend u are x. Kill x. Have peoppe blame x. Escape as y.

It was the Taylor, in the jail, with the gun.

For those of you Clue fans out there.

[cab]

https://youtu.be/rRD28EEowL0

The carthage jail. Was it done by the lds brethren and not just the mob?

Masons were everywhere and perhaps joseph had naively welcomed them in. Many could be good but some would be those luciferians.

When anyone suppresses investigation like on jfk and 911. I get suspicious.

But i dont think it was brigham. Cutting off j smith from brigham led to a distorted plural marriage but the so called luciferians were already mirroring it with spiritual wifery. In time j smith could have created somethijg closer to the divine download instructions akin to polyandry. Many love relationships like community kitchens and households. But that timeline was cut off if smith died.

This is the same channel that interviewed the former luciferian. They revealed that the luks taught apotheosis and a shadow mirror of restoration. This is a classic tactic much as the ukraine khazarians did with russia. Pretend u are x. Kill x. Have peoppe blame x. Escape as y.

It was the Taylor, in the jail, with the gun.

For those of you Clue fans out there.

Maybe. It’s plausible, perhaps even likely given the evidence. But perhaps we shouldn’t state things matter of factly that are far from settled…
The more we learn the more we should acknowledge that we just don’t know….

[Ymarsakar]

https://youtu.be/rRD28EEowL0

The carthage jail. Was it done by the lds brethren and not just the mob?

Masons were everywhere and perhaps joseph had naively welcomed them in. Many could be good but some would be those luciferians.

When anyone suppresses investigation like on jfk and 911. I get suspicious.

But i dont think it was brigham. Cutting off j smith from brigham led to a distorted plural marriage but the so called luciferians were already mirroring it with spiritual wifery. In time j smith could have created somethijg closer to the divine download instructions akin to polyandry. Many love relationships like community kitchens and households. But that timeline was cut off if smith died.

This is the same channel that interviewed the former luciferian. They revealed that the luks taught apotheosis and a shadow mirror of restoration. This is a classic tactic much as the ukraine khazarians did with russia. Pretend u are x. Kill x. Have peoppe blame x. Escape as y.

It was the Taylor, in the jail, with the gun.

For those of you Clue fans out there.

Maybe. It’s plausible, perhaps even likely given the evidence. But perhaps we shouldn’t state things matter of factly that are far from settled…
The more we learn the more we should acknowledge that we just don’t know….

This is why i do not obey the historians or the science. Both are just people working using mortal methods. They can be wrong and are often wrong.

Better to ask god source itself. Then the truth will be revealed.

It would be a good way to bifurcate the lds org. If evidence came out it would give people a justification to divide or reform lds. But if it came now then people who had not done the work on themselves would just be following an external red authority again.

Also why the red seats? Red is a root chakra, vatican red shoes. This is not a higher chakra color for the divine like white or indigo.

When people get personal testimonies then it may be time.

[Reluctant Watchman]

https://youtu.be/rRD28EEowL0

The carthage jail. Was it done by the lds brethren and not just the mob?

Masons were everywhere and perhaps joseph had naively welcomed them in. Many could be good but some would be those luciferians.

When anyone suppresses investigation like on jfk and 911. I get suspicious.

But i dont think it was brigham. Cutting off j smith from brigham led to a distorted plural marriage but the so called luciferians were already mirroring it with spiritual wifery. In time j smith could have created somethijg closer to the divine download instructions akin to polyandry. Many love relationships like community kitchens and households. But that timeline was cut off if smith died.

This is the same channel that interviewed the former luciferian. They revealed that the luks taught apotheosis and a shadow mirror of restoration. This is a classic tactic much as the ukraine khazarians did with russia. Pretend u are x. Kill x. Have peoppe blame x. Escape as y.

It was the Taylor, in the jail, with the gun.

For those of you Clue fans out there.

Maybe. It’s plausible, perhaps even likely given the evidence. But perhaps we shouldn’t state things matter of factly that are far from settled…
The more we learn the more we should acknowledge that we just don’t know….

Acknowledging that the narrative we were fed is flawed is a start. Unfortunately the church doesn’t see it that way. They are invested in defending “the good name of the church.”

[Ymarsakar]

It was the Taylor, in the jail, with the gun.

For those of you Clue fans out there.

Maybe. It’s plausible, perhaps even likely given the evidence. But perhaps we shouldn’t state things matter of factly that are far from settled…
The more we learn the more we should acknowledge that we just don’t know….

Acknowledging that the narrative we were fed is flawed is a start. Unfortunately the church doesn’t see it that way. They are invested in defending “the good name of the church.”

This is the apocalypse. Every human org anf nation is becoming revealed. What the church org does is of very little impact given the larger world context.

Do people give greater weight to what the lds do because of their faith? This theology of the restoration and the one true church? The faith in joseph smith?

More work is needed on the inside then.

[Reluctant Watchman]

Maybe. It’s plausible, perhaps even likely given the evidence. But perhaps we shouldn’t state things matter of factly that are far from settled…
The more we learn the more we should acknowledge that we just don’t know….

Acknowledging that the narrative we were fed is flawed is a start. Unfortunately the church doesn’t see it that way. They are invested in defending “the good name of the church.”

This is the apocalypse. Every human org anf nation is becoming revealed. What the church org does is of very little impact given the larger world context.

Do people give greater weight to what the lds do because of their faith? This theology of the restoration and the one true church? The faith in joseph smith?

More work is needed on the inside then.

From what I’ve studied from Joseph, the last thing he wanted was people blindly following him and making a religion that elevates him beyond a simple man.

[Ymarsakar]

Acknowledging that the narrative we were fed is flawed is a start. Unfortunately the church doesn’t see it that way. They are invested in defending “the good name of the church.”

This is the apocalypse. Every human org anf nation is becoming revealed. What the church org does is of very little impact given the larger world context.

Do people give greater weight to what the lds do because of their faith? This theology of the restoration and the one true church? The faith in joseph smith?

More work is needed on the inside then.

From what I’ve studied from Joseph, the last thing he wanted was people blindly following him and making a religion that elevates him beyond a simple man.

The best way to accomplish that was to stay alive and not go back to carthage. Escape farther west.

This martyrdom complex is a distorted way to express the heart and love of god. Jean de arc had a similar blockage.

They did great things in such a short time but they could have done a lot more if they survived and lived longer.

Remember when satan told jeshua to fall off the temple roof. See if god catches him if he is the messiah. Many people of faith glorify martyrdom. So satan is just doing u a service by providing you the opportunity to kill yourself.

2021 included. If you take the shot, u will save your family from x.

[Reluctant Watchman]

This is the apocalypse. Every human org anf nation is becoming revealed. What the church org does is of very little impact given the larger world context.

Do people give greater weight to what the lds do because of their faith? This theology of the restoration and the one true church? The faith in joseph smith?

More work is needed on the inside then.

From what I’ve studied from Joseph, the last thing he wanted was people blindly following him and making a religion that elevates him beyond a simple man.

The best way to accomplish that was to stay alive and not go back to carthage. Escape farther west.

This martyrdom complex is a distorted way to express the heart and love of god. Jean de arc had a similar blockage.

They did great things in such a short time but they could have done a lot more if they survived and lived longer.

Remember when satan told jeshua to fall off the temple roof. See if god catches him if he is the messiah. Many people of faith glorify martyrdom. So satan is just doing u a service by providing you the opportunity to kill yourself.

2021 included. If you take the shot, u will save your family from x.

How was that the best way? He stood up for what was right. He was excommunicating polygamists. They, obviously, had other plans.

And to suggest that people who believe Joseph was killed by his friends as a “complex”, is unfounded IMO.

[Niemand]

We've had quite a few posts on this subject recently. Best check the archives. Personally I think it is very difficult to verify ballistics or even eyewitness statements from this distance in time.

[Bronco73idi]

From what I’ve studied from Joseph, the last thing he wanted was people blindly following him and making a religion that elevates him beyond a simple man.

The best way to accomplish that was to stay alive and not go back to carthage. Escape farther west.

This martyrdom complex is a distorted way to express the heart and love of god. Jean de arc had a similar blockage.

They did great things in such a short time but they could have done a lot more if they survived and lived longer.

Remember when satan told jeshua to fall off the temple roof. See if god catches him if he is the messiah. Many people of faith glorify martyrdom. So satan is just doing u a service by providing you the opportunity to kill yourself.

2021 included. If you take the shot, u will save your family from x.

How was that the best way? He stood up for what was right. He was excommunicating polygamists. They, obviously, had other plans.

And to suggest that people who believe Joseph was killed by his friends as a “complex”, is unfounded IMO.

This is hilarious; because of a doctor who practiced homosexuality and whoredoms you feel authorized to make this statement?

Why would this doctor say Jospeh practice polygamy to justify his adultery? This doctor didn’t get sealed with these women. If anything John C. Bennet gross perversions is a witness to Jospeh Smith practicing polygamy.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Categor ... ay_Saints)

[Reluctant Watchman]

The best way to accomplish that was to stay alive and not go back to carthage. Escape farther west.

This martyrdom complex is a distorted way to express the heart and love of god. Jean de arc had a similar blockage.

They did great things in such a short time but they could have done a lot more if they survived and lived longer.

Remember when satan told jeshua to fall off the temple roof. See if god catches him if he is the messiah. Many people of faith glorify martyrdom. So satan is just doing u a service by providing you the opportunity to kill yourself.

2021 included. If you take the shot, u will save your family from x.

How was that the best way? He stood up for what was right. He was excommunicating polygamists. They, obviously, had other plans.

And to suggest that people who believe Joseph was killed by his friends as a “complex”, is unfounded IMO.

This is hilarious; because of a doctor who practiced homosexuality and whoredoms you feel authorized to make this statement?

Why would this doctor say Jospeh practice polygamy to justify his adultery? This doctor didn’t get sealed with these women. If anything John C. Bennet gross perversions is a witness to Jospeh Smith practicing polygamy.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Categor ... ay_Saints)

Hilarious indeed.

[Ymarsakar]

From what I’ve studied from Joseph, the last thing he wanted was people blindly following him and making a religion that elevates him beyond a simple man.

The best way to accomplish that was to stay alive and not go back to carthage. Escape farther west.

This martyrdom complex is a distorted way to express the heart and love of god. Jean de arc had a similar blockage.

They did great things in such a short time but they could have done a lot more if they survived and lived longer.

Remember when satan told jeshua to fall off the temple roof. See if god catches him if he is the messiah. Many people of faith glorify martyrdom. So satan is just doing u a service by providing you the opportunity to kill yourself.

2021 included. If you take the shot, u will save your family from x.

How was that the best way? He stood up for what was right. He was excommunicating polygamists. They, obviously, had other plans.

And to suggest that people who believe Joseph was killed by his friends as a “complex”, is unfounded IMO.

Where did u get that last sentence of an idea from?

Are you disputing that j smith could have left carthage jail permanently but went back and then got arrested? I have not heard that version before.

[Ymarsakar]

We've had quite a few posts on this subject recently. Best check the archives. Personally I think it is very difficult to verify ballistics or even eyewitness statements from this distance in time.

What is the keyword to search for?

[Niemand]

We've had quite a few posts on this subject recently. Best check the archives. Personally I think it is very difficult to verify ballistics or even eyewitness statements from this distance in time.

What is the keyword to search for?

I've no idea, but I remember they were talking about a ?documentary on the subject recently. The usual back and forth.

[cab]

It was the Taylor, in the jail, with the gun.

For those of you Clue fans out there.

Maybe. It’s plausible, perhaps even likely given the evidence. But perhaps we shouldn’t state things matter of factly that are far from settled…
The more we learn the more we should acknowledge that we just don’t know….

Acknowledging that the narrative we were fed is flawed is a start. Unfortunately the church doesn’t see it that way. They are invested in defending “the good name of the church.”

Oh yes…. The one thing I can say with near total confidence is that the narrative they expect us to plug our nose and swallow is a crap sandwich.

[Aussie]

There is proof out there that JS wanted nothing to do with polygamy or spiritual wifery. Spiritual wifery came from the Cochranites in NY. Brigham and others did missions and went to the Cochranites often. Brigham often requested to go by himself. There is a newspaper article taken out by the husband of a lady in NY that left him with their seven kids to marry Brigham and left with Brigham to live in Salt Lake. She took her youngest child whish she called Brigham. The child died on the way to Salt Lake and they had to bury the child on the way.

Yes JS taught that you should not just follow any man including a prophet.
"President Joseph Smith read the 14th Chapter of Ezekiel—said the Lord had declared by the prophet that the people should each one stand for himself, and depend on no man or men in that state of corruption of the Jewish Church—that righteous persons could only deliver their own souls—applied it to the present state of the Church of Jesus Christ Latter Day Saints—said if the people departed from the Lord they must fall—that they were depending on the prophet, hence were darkened in their minds, in consequence of neglecting the duties devolving upon themselves…."