LDS Freedom Forum

wow whatever happened to this thread? It reads like it had a psychotic episode the last few pages here.

My answer to the original question " is divorce in all cases wrong " would be a resounding "no". I am even glad for the real mercy of no fault divorce. Sometimes a divorce just has to happen, and some marraiges just shouldn't have happened in the first place.

But on the other hand, I actually think only 2% of all divorce cases fall into the above categories. In todays' divorce court, at least one spouse, if not both, want the marraige but can't see a way to fix it. Common scenarios are infidelity, porn use , physical abuse on both sides with tons of resentment and anger focused on each other with blaming, criticizing and fault finding. One or both spouses can be emotionally immature, financially irresponsible, have bad relationship habits, or are otherwise just plain stupid. There can be strong clashes on how to raise the children, etc. Or, last but not least, a husband suddenly declares he's gay.

These are tough situations, but none of the above need ring a death knell in a marraige. There are solutions, gospel based solutions, that can resolve the pain into joy and bring a couple back together again, solutions that don't blame the other spouse or try to change him/her. ( The only exception I would make is when a wife has another man ( or woman ) and has moved out. I wish it wasn't the case, but it would be near impossible for the husband to win her back no matter what. Kudos to any guy who says he did it, but he would be extremely rare.)

People get married because they think it will make them happier. So do something that makes your spouse happy today!

Bronco73idi wrote: ↑April 29th, 2023, 2:09 pm

Ymarsakar wrote: ↑April 29th, 2023, 1:55 pm I did not conduct those marriages or sealings thus i am not the judge u should ask.

As for the beginning, i am seeing events now not the past eras..

The bible is for everyone including atheists. What they do with it is up to their discernment and choice

It was written for the children of Abraham, it was prophesied to go to everyone in the last days. Ezekiel 36, because of his name he will make any who will listen and the lost tribes his. If we won’t acknowledge him then we can’t inherit his father’s kingdom.

How can you say the Bible is written for atheists, if they repent and acknowledge the son then they are not atheist.

If you won’t acknowledge him then his laws mean nothing to you and do whatever you want.

I think he is saying something akin to Romans 10 11 For the Scripture says, “Whoever believes on Him will not be put to shame.” 12 For there is no distinction between Jew and Greek, for the same Lord over all is rich to all who call upon Him. 13 For “whoever calls on the name of the Lord shall be saved.”
14 How then shall they call on Him in whom they have not believed? And how shall they believe in Him of whom they have not heard? And how shall they hear without a preacher? 15 And how shall they preach unless they are sent? As it is written:

“How beautiful are the feet of those who preach the gospel of peace,
Who bring glad tidings of good things!”


It's the same concept of Jesus saying in Luke 5 "32 I have not come to call the righteous, but sinners, to repentance.”

The Bible is written to show us who God is and His love towards us, to teach us who He is- all are fallen and have fallen short- if an atheist reads and then believes, they will be saved... though when they started they didn't.

I will say that sometimes I think we are too quick to latch on to bad things people say in order to win an argument - I know I have been guilty of that in the past - the scripture in James 1: comes to mind and I am trying to more fully implement it in my own life : 19My beloved brothers, understand this: Everyone should be quick to listen, slow to speak, and slow to anger, Sometimes We are slow to listen, quick to speak, and quick to tell them our mind. While it is a shift in our responses, I think it might offer great rewards from above as we yield to God's love towards us and those we communicate with.

Ymarsakar wrote: ↑April 29th, 2023, 11:47 am

HereWeGo wrote: ↑April 29th, 2023, 11:31 am

Bronco73idi wrote: ↑April 29th, 2023, 11:24 am

Lucifer? Valos? All seem similar.

All come here to “tell” us. Not learn and share ideas…..

I try to learn from everyone

When a new person joins, I try to listen and learn. But when it becomes obvious that the new person is here to teach us and not learn, I soon lose interest and sometimes block that person. Especially when the the person has a super-special connection to deity.

Why are you asking me questions if your intent is not to learn from me?

I do not like repeating myself. I am n9t this emily you think i am. Are you humble enough to accept that truth?

Or will you continue bearing false witness?

I do not have the time not energy to care about your super special humble whatever. If you wish to accuse me of something, then do so and do not hide beind fake humble questions that are not sincere.

I do not appreciate rivals and adversaries wasting my time here.

I asked you 2 questions because I wanted to know the answers.

1. I wondered if you were Emily. She is someone that many of us on this site love and are concerned about. When you said no, I believed you and left it alone.

2. I was curious and wanted to know how you derived your name. You answered and I was satisfied.

I don't understand why you decided to belittle me, accuse me of bearing false witness and accuse me of being a rival or adversary.

My interactions with you are finished with this post.

Herewg, good the portal closing is working aka divorce. But i am not belittling you, as a person. You are just carrying the message.

I alrrady dealt with the pranksters using you to set up a portal to my realm.

The way this portal attracted your comment about other people, bronco joining in, and a few other issues made me consider the vulnerability.

Eventually i realized it was not from you but through you. Which began when the idea was inserted into you to cause you to ask the question.

If you do not understand what was going on, then it will protect you.