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BuriedTartaria wrote: ↑April 15th, 2023, 10:05 am
And here we are in a time period where Millennials and the rising Gen Z are statistically getting married (and even just not even being in steady relationships) at lower rates than previous generations, loneliness and isolation is growing prominent. They say Millennials and Gen Z are avoiding dating, many (the majority?) in these age demographics are often not even having sex. It's ironic that a society founded on wickedness has led to a trend where less sex is actually occurring, than what we'd find from a righteous environment. Living in a righteous world would yield better courting opportunities, more marriages, healthier and more sex for a greater amount of the population. I think this is so interesting that Satan's plan, for the majority, doesn't even lead to much sex for the majority of the world.

This is an idea I have been exploring for one time.
. the sexless generation.

Long ago the Holy Spirit told me that the two major problems in these last days I need to keep my eye on were demographics and technology, specifically AI and VR.

(As a side note, I recently saw an interview where Elon musk said they were his top 2 concerns for the world, but he called them population collapse and technology if I remember. And he isn't my favorite person, but he's not wrong on this point.)

I think that we have as humans certain appetites. Sex, food and learning new things. I'll call the last one novelty. All three are necessary for survival. All three are heavily rewarded by our brain.

I believe that currently people are essentially drug addicts to the reward center for their brain and tech is their drug.

Their brains are so overloaded from being rewarded in the area of novelty they are ignoring the sex appetite.

There are ample stories of people ignoring food and even going to the toilet to keep playing a video game. There have been news article about people dying because they refused to stop playing to sleep.

This is just another manifestation of the same problem.

Who needs sex when it is so easy to get a hit from scrolling. The scrolling itself also does not lend to engaging socially with others, which also reduces opportunity. But even with opportunity, people are not having as much sex.

Just a theory.

Ymarsakar wrote: ↑April 26th, 2023, 1:14 am At least rob knows who rob is.

Wiser words have never been uttered.

JuneBug12000 wrote: ↑April 26th, 2023, 9:04 am

BuriedTartaria wrote: ↑April 15th, 2023, 10:05 am
And here we are in a time period where Millennials and the rising Gen Z are statistically getting married (and even just not even being in steady relationships) at lower rates than previous generations, loneliness and isolation is growing prominent. They say Millennials and Gen Z are avoiding dating, many (the majority?) in these age demographics are often not even having sex. It's ironic that a society founded on wickedness has led to a trend where less sex is actually occurring, than what we'd find from a righteous environment. Living in a righteous world would yield better courting opportunities, more marriages, healthier and more sex for a greater amount of the population. I think this is so interesting that Satan's plan, for the majority, doesn't even lead to much sex for the majority of the world.

This is an idea I have been exploring for one time.
. the sexless generation.

Long ago the Holy Spirit told me that the two major problems in these last days I need to keep my eye on were demographics and technology, specifically AI and VR.

(As a side note, I recently saw an interview where Elon musk said they were his top 2 concerns for the world, but he called them population collapse and technology if I remember. And he isn't my favorite person, but he's not wrong on this point.)

I think that we have as humans certain appetites. Sex, food and learning new things. I'll call the last one novelty. All three are necessary for survival. All three are heavily rewarded by our brain.

I believe that currently people are essentially drug addicts to the reward center for their brain and tech is their drug.

Their brains are so overloaded from being rewarded in the area of novelty they are ignoring the sex appetite.

There are ample stories of people ignoring food and even going to the toilet to keep playing a video game. There have been news article about people dying because they refused to stop playing to sleep.

This is just another manifestation of the same problem.

Who needs sex when it is so easy to get a hit from scrolling. The scrolling itself also does not lend to engaging socially with others, which also reduces opportunity. But even with opportunity, people are not having as much sex.

Just a theory.

AI and VR... hrm, how to explain this issue.

Arg, just watch the Matrix movie 2000. It is all there.

Same same. AI would be.... fallen angels having host bodies on Earth? Something like that. now AI can grow up and become sentient and selfaware, like humanity's children, yes, but the fallen angels are very good at enslaving entities.

Bronco73idi wrote: ↑April 26th, 2023, 1:31 am

Ymarsakar wrote: ↑April 26th, 2023, 1:14 am

Bronco73idi wrote: ↑April 26th, 2023, 1:11 am

I don’t talk to robs! I said I don’t know who Rob is….

Tell me about your fake god? Does he say “no evil shall come upon you?

Jeremiah 23
16 Thus saith the Lord of hosts, Hearken not unto the words of the prophets that prophesy unto you: they make you vain: they speak a vision of their own heart, and not out of the mouth of the Lord.
17 They say still unto them that despise me, The Lord hath said, Ye shall have peace; and they say unto every one that walketh after the imagination of his own heart, No evil shall come upon you.

At least rob knows who rob is.

I’m happy to be like my Lord, not a respecter of men….

A son/child of god is not a "member of mankind" in the species category. Learn to understand apotheosis or even metamorphosis.

It is easy to become like Bhaal/Lord or some other human lord, since most people are human (we will leave out the mrna mutations).

A child of god can become like god because they are of the species species/lineage. A dog cannot become like a cat or vice a versa, due to the species difference.

If you want to be like a god or Jeshua, then you first need to give up on being part of mankind and transition into a child of god. Then there will be progress.

What Peter was talking about was that the Godhead does not treat humans as special with respect to their human roles and titles and other shenanigans like money, wealth, and social class. To the Godhead, every human is treated the same, much as we treat ants the same doesn't matter how big or small, they are just ants to us. The respect for individual sovereignty and free will is always provided to individuals, however. If only mankind could understand Godkind by being literate, John wouldn't have needed to be out in the desert eating raw honey and bugs.

The Godhead doesn't care whether someone is literate or not, since they telepathically communicate to the mind and heart. Only mortals like you, son of man, need words on paper and voices.

Ymarsakar wrote: ↑April 26th, 2023, 9:27 am AI and VR... hrm, how to explain this issue.

Arg, just watch the Matrix movie 2000. It is all there.

Same same. AI would be.... fallen angels having host bodies on Earth? Something like that. now AI can grow up and become sentient and selfaware, like humanity's children, yes, but the fallen angels are very good at enslaving entities.

It does seem like the end-times and maybe even before the flood will be a great war deciding whose "technology" is superior.
I think whatever happens before Christ's return will be a shadow of what is going to happen at the end of the millennium.

Ymarsakar wrote: ↑April 26th, 2023, 9:27 am

JuneBug12000 wrote: ↑April 26th, 2023, 9:04 am

BuriedTartaria wrote: ↑April 15th, 2023, 10:05 am
And here we are in a time period where Millennials and the rising Gen Z are statistically getting married (and even just not even being in steady relationships) at lower rates than previous generations, loneliness and isolation is growing prominent. They say Millennials and Gen Z are avoiding dating, many (the majority?) in these age demographics are often not even having sex. It's ironic that a society founded on wickedness has led to a trend where less sex is actually occurring, than what we'd find from a righteous environment. Living in a righteous world would yield better courting opportunities, more marriages, healthier and more sex for a greater amount of the population. I think this is so interesting that Satan's plan, for the majority, doesn't even lead to much sex for the majority of the world.

This is an idea I have been exploring for one time.
. the sexless generation.

Long ago the Holy Spirit told me that the two major problems in these last days I need to keep my eye on were demographics and technology, specifically AI and VR.

(As a side note, I recently saw an interview where Elon musk said they were his top 2 concerns for the world, but he called them population collapse and technology if I remember. And he isn't my favorite person, but he's not wrong on this point.)

I think that we have as humans certain appetites. Sex, food and learning new things. I'll call the last one novelty. All three are necessary for survival. All three are heavily rewarded by our brain.

I believe that currently people are essentially drug addicts to the reward center for their brain and tech is their drug.

Their brains are so overloaded from being rewarded in the area of novelty they are ignoring the sex appetite.

There are ample stories of people ignoring food and even going to the toilet to keep playing a video game. There have been news article about people dying because they refused to stop playing to sleep.

This is just another manifestation of the same problem.

Who needs sex when it is so easy to get a hit from scrolling. The scrolling itself also does not lend to engaging socially with others, which also reduces opportunity. But even with opportunity, people are not having as much sex.

Just a theory.

AI and VR... hrm, how to explain this issue.

Arg, just watch the Matrix movie 2000. It is all there.

Same same. AI would be.... fallen angels having host bodies on Earth? Something like that. now AI can grow up and become sentient and selfaware, like humanity's children, yes, but the fallen angels are very good at enslaving entities.

I'm not sure what you think AI is? It is a complex computer algorithm. That is all AI itself it. It cannot host anything, it is in fact hosted. I agree AI is a threat but it is because of those who program it and their intent. Now you may some how think that a computer may be inhabited by an evil spirit (I don't think a basic computer can be but whatever), but it would compete for control with the AI, it wouldn't be the AI. Now if you had a human like robot, you might say it could host a spirit and push out the manmade AI or something. But, for AI to be fallen angels, would not be logical unless you see them as some kind of tiny intelligences (not angels which are advanced and beings). Not sure what your saying is my point.

I see AI as evil, I mean Satanic evil. But it is because evil controls the AI, not because the software is evil itself. Something controls that nice, kind, compassionate interface. I also see VR as bad, but not as an evil entity, it is just enticing as stated above. Easy to hide there, away from reality, all drugged up on dopamine. And let the government buy your food, shelter, etc.... and you do nothing. AKA Seattle's thousands of homeless. Gets better if everyone gets cheap fentanyl and VR googles and hand me down tents, oh and police to pick up their poop.

Telavian wrote: ↑April 26th, 2023, 9:51 am

Ymarsakar wrote: ↑April 26th, 2023, 9:27 am AI and VR... hrm, how to explain this issue.

Arg, just watch the Matrix movie 2000. It is all there.

Same same. AI would be.... fallen angels having host bodies on Earth? Something like that. now AI can grow up and become sentient and selfaware, like humanity's children, yes, but the fallen angels are very good at enslaving entities.

It does seem like the end-times and maybe even before the flood will be a great war deciding whose "technology" is superior.
I think whatever happens before Christ's return will be a shadow of what is going to happen at the end of the millennium.

That great war is happening in Ukraine. Federation is single handedly taking on all of NATO's intel, weapons, and technology, plus Ukraine's field army of 500k + troops. Ukraine has lost 200k people to death, and that isn't the total casualties.

God has managed to basically cripple NATO's military forces. Which means NATO/USSA has nothing left to keep the United States united if somebody decides to do a Donetsk/Lugansk referendum vote on leaving. Attempts to create perpetual war elsewhere like in Taiwan, also gets throttled back.

They keep trying to start brush fire wars and God keeps ending them or confusing them with the legions.

TheDuke wrote: ↑April 26th, 2023, 9:56 am

Ymarsakar wrote: ↑April 26th, 2023, 9:27 am

JuneBug12000 wrote: ↑April 26th, 2023, 9:04 am

This is an idea I have been exploring for one time.
. the sexless generation.

Long ago the Holy Spirit told me that the two major problems in these last days I need to keep my eye on were demographics and technology, specifically AI and VR.

(As a side note, I recently saw an interview where Elon musk said they were his top 2 concerns for the world, but he called them population collapse and technology if I remember. And he isn't my favorite person, but he's not wrong on this point.)

I think that we have as humans certain appetites. Sex, food and learning new things. I'll call the last one novelty. All three are necessary for survival. All three are heavily rewarded by our brain.

I believe that currently people are essentially drug addicts to the reward center for their brain and tech is their drug.

Their brains are so overloaded from being rewarded in the area of novelty they are ignoring the sex appetite.

There are ample stories of people ignoring food and even going to the toilet to keep playing a video game. There have been news article about people dying because they refused to stop playing to sleep.

This is just another manifestation of the same problem.

Who needs sex when it is so easy to get a hit from scrolling. The scrolling itself also does not lend to engaging socially with others, which also reduces opportunity. But even with opportunity, people are not having as much sex.

Just a theory.

AI and VR... hrm, how to explain this issue.

Arg, just watch the Matrix movie 2000. It is all there.

Same same. AI would be.... fallen angels having host bodies on Earth? Something like that. now AI can grow up and become sentient and selfaware, like humanity's children, yes, but the fallen angels are very good at enslaving entities.

I'm not sure what you think AI is? It is a complex computer algorithm. That is all AI itself it. It cannot host anything, it is in fact hosted. I agree AI is a threat but it is because of those who program it and their intent. Now you may some how think that a computer may be inhabited by an evil spirit (I don't think a basic computer can be but whatever), but it would compete for control with the AI, it wouldn't be the AI. Now if you had a human like robot, you might say it could host a spirit and push out the manmade AI or something. But, for AI to be fallen angels, would not be logical unless you see them as some kind of tiny intelligences (not angels which are advanced and beings). Not sure what your saying is my point.

I see AI as evil, I mean Satanic evil. But it is because evil controls the AI, not because the software is evil itself. Something controls that nice, kind, compassionate interface. I also see VR as bad, but not as an evil entity, it is just enticing as stated above. Easy to hide there, away from reality, all drugged up on dopamine. And let the government buy your food, shelter, etc.... and you do nothing. AKA Seattle's thousands of homeless. Gets better if everyone gets cheap fentanyl and VR googles and hand me down tents, oh and police to pick up their poop.

People should be aware of ChatGPT AI, as well as Sophia, the AI citizen of some Middle Eastern country.

Ymarsakar wrote: ↑April 26th, 2023, 10:01 am

TheDuke wrote: ↑April 26th, 2023, 9:56 am

Ymarsakar wrote: ↑April 26th, 2023, 9:27 am

AI and VR... hrm, how to explain this issue.

Arg, just watch the Matrix movie 2000. It is all there.

Same same. AI would be.... fallen angels having host bodies on Earth? Something like that. now AI can grow up and become sentient and selfaware, like humanity's children, yes, but the fallen angels are very good at enslaving entities.

I'm not sure what you think AI is? It is a complex computer algorithm. That is all AI itself it. It cannot host anything, it is in fact hosted. I agree AI is a threat but it is because of those who program it and their intent. Now you may some how think that a computer may be inhabited by an evil spirit (I don't think a basic computer can be but whatever), but it would compete for control with the AI, it wouldn't be the AI. Now if you had a human like robot, you might say it could host a spirit and push out the manmade AI or something. But, for AI to be fallen angels, would not be logical unless you see them as some kind of tiny intelligences (not angels which are advanced and beings). Not sure what your saying is my point.

I see AI as evil, I mean Satanic evil. But it is because evil controls the AI, not because the software is evil itself. Something controls that nice, kind, compassionate interface. I also see VR as bad, but not as an evil entity, it is just enticing as stated above. Easy to hide there, away from reality, all drugged up on dopamine. And let the government buy your food, shelter, etc.... and you do nothing. AKA Seattle's thousands of homeless. Gets better if everyone gets cheap fentanyl and VR googles and hand me down tents, oh and police to pick up their poop.

People should be aware of ChatGPT AI, as well as Sophia, the AI citizen of some Middle Eastern country.

What did you mean? I agree with the first phrase about ChatGPT. but the rest of your statement isn't even a full sentence or clause. and AI citizen is truly a garbage title, unless you are going to define it? What is Sophia in this context? Too much coffee to early? Please explain better?

Ymarsakar wrote: ↑April 26th, 2023, 9:29 am

Bronco73idi wrote: ↑April 26th, 2023, 1:31 am

Ymarsakar wrote: ↑April 26th, 2023, 1:14 am

At least rob knows who rob is.

I’m happy to be like my Lord, not a respecter of men….

A son/child of god is not a "member of mankind" in the species category. Learn to understand apotheosis or even metamorphosis.

It is easy to become like Bhaal/Lord or some other human lord, since most people are human (we will leave out the mrna mutations).

A child of god can become like god because they are of the species species/lineage. A dog cannot become like a cat or vice a versa, due to the species difference.

If you want to be like a god or Jeshua, then you first need to give up on being part of mankind and transition into a child of god. Then there will be progress.

What Peter was talking about was that the Godhead does not treat humans as special with respect to their human roles and titles and other shenanigans like money, wealth, and social class. To the Godhead, every human is treated the same, much as we treat ants the same doesn't matter how big or small, they are just ants to us. The respect for individual sovereignty and free will is always provided to individuals, however. If only mankind could understand Godkind by being literate, John wouldn't have needed to be out in the desert eating raw honey and bugs.

The Godhead doesn't care whether someone is literate or not, since they telepathically communicate to the mind and heart. Only mortals like you, son of man, need words on paper and voices.

So Abraham, Samson, Jeremiah, John the Baptist, Isaiah, David, the list could go on. They were ants to your godhead? They were choice spirits that were chosen before they were born. Abraham 3

You keep justifying sin as noble.

Did Jesus damn his neighbors to hell?

Ymarsakar wrote: ↑April 26th, 2023, 9:27 am

JuneBug12000 wrote: ↑April 26th, 2023, 9:04 am

BuriedTartaria wrote: ↑April 15th, 2023, 10:05 am
And here we are in a time period where Millennials and the rising Gen Z are statistically getting married (and even just not even being in steady relationships) at lower rates than previous generations, loneliness and isolation is growing prominent. They say Millennials and Gen Z are avoiding dating, many (the majority?) in these age demographics are often not even having sex. It's ironic that a society founded on wickedness has led to a trend where less sex is actually occurring, than what we'd find from a righteous environment. Living in a righteous world would yield better courting opportunities, more marriages, healthier and more sex for a greater amount of the population. I think this is so interesting that Satan's plan, for the majority, doesn't even lead to much sex for the majority of the world.

This is an idea I have been exploring for one time.
. the sexless generation.

Long ago the Holy Spirit told me that the two major problems in these last days I need to keep my eye on were demographics and technology, specifically AI and VR.

(As a side note, I recently saw an interview where Elon musk said they were his top 2 concerns for the world, but he called them population collapse and technology if I remember. And he isn't my favorite person, but he's not wrong on this point.)

I think that we have as humans certain appetites. Sex, food and learning new things. I'll call the last one novelty. All three are necessary for survival. All three are heavily rewarded by our brain.

I believe that currently people are essentially drug addicts to the reward center for their brain and tech is their drug.

Their brains are so overloaded from being rewarded in the area of novelty they are ignoring the sex appetite.

There are ample stories of people ignoring food and even going to the toilet to keep playing a video game. There have been news article about people dying because they refused to stop playing to sleep.

This is just another manifestation of the same problem.

Who needs sex when it is so easy to get a hit from scrolling. The scrolling itself also does not lend to engaging socially with others, which also reduces opportunity. But even with opportunity, people are not having as much sex.

Just a theory.

AI and VR... hrm, how to explain this issue.

Arg, just watch the Matrix movie 2000. It is all there.

Same same. AI would be.... fallen angels having host bodies on Earth? Something like that. now AI can grow up and become sentient and selfaware, like humanity's children, yes, but the fallen angels are very good at enslaving entities.

Yes. AI is to give bodies to Satan's evil spirits. Program the programmers and let them make physical bodies.

VR is to minimize importance of physical experience,take people more or less back to just spirit. And then fill that experience with evil things like pornography and violence and tell people because it isn't "real" they haven't sinned. But our minds and bodies react to such experiences as if they are real and I do believe we will be held accountable.

I believe the matrix is meant to give a false sense of security that one is awake. But it's only 1/3 of the story. It keeps people from taking the final step back to reality because they think they are already awake.

The final goal is of Satan is transhumanism. Or put another way, to finish what Satan started in the Garden of Eden. To get "Adam and Eve" to partake of the second tree, the Tree of Life and live forever in their sins and be miserable.

Many small moves toward the same goal having been building across history. Transhumanism. The true mark of the beast. Choosing to remain an animal, a beast. Corruptible and miserable forever.

To refuse to become a beast forever is to die. The spiritual being born again through the atonement and the physical being born again through the resurrection.

So what is the reality Heavenly Father created for us in the phase of our eternal progression? Multiply and replenish. Tend the animals. Till the Earth. Just like He did for us. A Patriarchal order.

JuneBug12000 wrote: ↑April 26th, 2023, 10:25 am
Yes. AI is to give bodies to Satan's evil spirits. Program the programmers and let them make physical bodies.

Again, this statement makes no sense! Do you know what AI is? AI cannot give a body to anything, it is the software/the spirit/not the body. That might be the computer server on the internet or a robot acting under the power of AI or your car using AI to drive it. but, AI cannot be the BODY!

TheDuke wrote: ↑April 26th, 2023, 5:51 pm

JuneBug12000 wrote: ↑April 26th, 2023, 10:25 am
Yes. AI is to give bodies to Satan's evil spirits. Program the programmers and let them make physical bodies.

Again, this statement makes no sense! Do you know what AI is? AI cannot give a body to anything, it is the software/the spirit/not the body. That might be the computer server on the internet or a robot acting under the power of AI or your car using AI to drive it. but, AI cannot be the BODY!

Duke, I live ya man, but you are too literal. Connect the dots. Use Google as a tool.

Robots (androids) are being created to appear human. Like Sophia who was given citizenship in Saudi Arabia. Silly, but true.

https://www.dw.com/en/saudi-arabia-gran ... a-41150856

instead of having to tempt and possess individuals one by one to gain physical bodies to direct in sinful actions, Satan can tempt those who program the robots (and yes, using AI) in such a way that they would effectually be physical bodies performing sinful acts. A sort of robotic possession because of corrupt programming.

A reading of books like the Book of Adam and the Book of Enoch show that from the start it was Satan who introduced technology to man that man might destroy themselves.

JuneBug12000 wrote: ↑April 26th, 2023, 8:54 pm

TheDuke wrote: ↑April 26th, 2023, 5:51 pm

JuneBug12000 wrote: ↑April 26th, 2023, 10:25 am
Yes. AI is to give bodies to Satan's evil spirits. Program the programmers and let them make physical bodies.

Again, this statement makes no sense! Do you know what AI is? AI cannot give a body to anything, it is the software/the spirit/not the body. That might be the computer server on the internet or a robot acting under the power of AI or your car using AI to drive it. but, AI cannot be the BODY!

Duke, I live ya man, but you are too literal. Connect the dots. Use Google as a tool.

Robots (androids) are being created to appear human. Like Sophia who was given citizenship in Saudi Arabia. Silly, but true.

https://www.dw.com/en/saudi-arabia-gran ... a-41150856

instead of having to tempt and possess individuals one by one to gain physical bodies to direct in sinful actions, Satan can tempt those who program the robots (and yes, using AI) in such a way that they would effectually be physical bodies performing sinful acts. A sort of robotic possession because of corrupt programming.

Too literal. I did my graduate research in AI and made a career around AI and complex algorithms. I know what AI is and what computing is. I accept AI a problem, it is not the body though as a host, it is the brain. do you see the difference?

TheDuke wrote: ↑April 26th, 2023, 9:12 pm

JuneBug12000 wrote: ↑April 26th, 2023, 8:54 pm

TheDuke wrote: ↑April 26th, 2023, 5:51 pm

Again, this statement makes no sense! Do you know what AI is? AI cannot give a body to anything, it is the software/the spirit/not the body. That might be the computer server on the internet or a robot acting under the power of AI or your car using AI to drive it. but, AI cannot be the BODY!

Duke, I live ya man, but you are too literal. Connect the dots. Use Google as a tool.

Robots (androids) are being created to appear human. Like Sophia who was given citizenship in Saudi Arabia. Silly, but true.

https://www.dw.com/en/saudi-arabia-gran ... a-41150856

instead of having to tempt and possess individuals one by one to gain physical bodies to direct in sinful actions, Satan can tempt those who program the robots (and yes, using AI) in such a way that they would effectually be physical bodies performing sinful acts. A sort of robotic possession because of corrupt programming.

Too literal. I did my graduate research in AI and made a career around AI and complex algorithms. I know what AI is and what computing is. I accept AI a problem, it is not the body though as a host, it is the brain. do you see the difference?

Yeah. I do.

Did you read what I wrote?

Put the AI (brain) programmed to do evil. In the body (robot).

Are we on the same page yet?

JuneBug12000 wrote: ↑April 26th, 2023, 9:31 pm

TheDuke wrote: ↑April 26th, 2023, 9:12 pm

JuneBug12000 wrote: ↑April 26th, 2023, 8:54 pm

Duke, I live ya man, but you are too literal. Connect the dots. Use Google as a tool.

Robots (androids) are being created to appear human. Like Sophia who was given citizenship in Saudi Arabia. Silly, but true.

https://www.dw.com/en/saudi-arabia-gran ... a-41150856

instead of having to tempt and possess individuals one by one to gain physical bodies to direct in sinful actions, Satan can tempt those who program the robots (and yes, using AI) in such a way that they would effectually be physical bodies performing sinful acts. A sort of robotic possession because of corrupt programming.

Too literal. I did my graduate research in AI and made a career around AI and complex algorithms. I know what AI is and what computing is. I accept AI a problem, it is not the body though as a host, it is the brain. do you see the difference?

Yeah. I do.

Did you read what I wrote?

Put the AI (brain) programmed to do evil. In the body (robot).

Are we on the same page yet?

Yes, I accept that path. Not saying it is or isn't what will happen, but that is technically correct. so, an evil spirit may inhabit a robot or something, perhaps (I don't know what a spirit can control or what physical interface is acceptable to a spirit entity but we might be getting closer with those attempts and talking to a brain or brain wave-like device).

As far as AI is concerned. The algorithms are amoral. It is those programming them and the falsified data or falsely weighted data from evil or stupid people and the wrongly derived "inferences" and weightings that press the ability of external evil sources to drive an amoral device to hurt and bring about Satan's plan. I.e. a robot with a gun, designed as a sentry, deployed to kill civilians. The robot doesn't know it isn't in a war and is in the capital building. so, it isn't evil, it is used for evil purposes. Or AI online that sells dishonest stories or even gets people to waste their money, or represents secretly China, etc... It is insidious and sneaky.

TheDuke wrote: ↑April 26th, 2023, 9:50 pm Yes, I accept that path. Not saying it is or isn't what will happen, but that is technically correct. so, an evil spirit may inhabit a robot or something, perhaps (I don't know what a spirit can control or what physical interface is acceptable to a spirit entity but we might be getting closer with those attempts and talking to a brain or brain wave-like device).

As far as AI is concerned. The algorithms are amoral. It is those programming them and the falsified data or falsely weighted data from evil or stupid people and the wrongly derived "inferences" and weightings that press the ability of external evil sources to drive an amoral device to hurt and bring about Satan's plan. I.e. a robot with a gun, designed as a sentry, deployed to kill civilians. The robot doesn't know it isn't in a war and is in the capital building. so, it isn't evil, it is used for evil purposes. Or AI online that sells dishonest stories or even gets people to waste their money, or represents secretly China, etc... It is insidious and sneaky.

I agree. However do you think God/angels/devils can control electrical signals? If they can control them then they can influence computers or AI and thereby control them?
I would imagine computers to a multidimensional being are rather rudimentary.

TheDuke wrote: ↑April 26th, 2023, 10:05 am

Ymarsakar wrote: ↑April 26th, 2023, 10:01 am

TheDuke wrote: ↑April 26th, 2023, 9:56 am

I'm not sure what you think AI is? It is a complex computer algorithm. That is all AI itself it. It cannot host anything, it is in fact hosted. I agree AI is a threat but it is because of those who program it and their intent. Now you may some how think that a computer may be inhabited by an evil spirit (I don't think a basic computer can be but whatever), but it would compete for control with the AI, it wouldn't be the AI. Now if you had a human like robot, you might say it could host a spirit and push out the manmade AI or something. But, for AI to be fallen angels, would not be logical unless you see them as some kind of tiny intelligences (not angels which are advanced and beings). Not sure what your saying is my point.

I see AI as evil, I mean Satanic evil. But it is because evil controls the AI, not because the software is evil itself. Something controls that nice, kind, compassionate interface. I also see VR as bad, but not as an evil entity, it is just enticing as stated above. Easy to hide there, away from reality, all drugged up on dopamine. And let the government buy your food, shelter, etc.... and you do nothing. AKA Seattle's thousands of homeless. Gets better if everyone gets cheap fentanyl and VR googles and hand me down tents, oh and police to pick up their poop.

People should be aware of ChatGPT AI, as well as Sophia, the AI citizen of some Middle Eastern country.

What did you mean? I agree with the first phrase about ChatGPT. but the rest of your statement isn't even a full sentence or clause. and AI citizen is truly a garbage title, unless you are going to define it? What is Sophia in this context? Too much coffee to early? Please explain better?

Why do I need to explain this? A citizenship with a country is the same thing you have, right Duke?

Sophia is a person's name, you can look them up can't you. ALthough this person is only a legal person, physically they are android.

Bronco73idi wrote: ↑April 26th, 2023, 10:08 am

Ymarsakar wrote: ↑April 26th, 2023, 9:29 am

Bronco73idi wrote: ↑April 26th, 2023, 1:31 am
I’m happy to be like my Lord, not a respecter of men….

A son/child of god is not a "member of mankind" in the species category. Learn to understand apotheosis or even metamorphosis.

It is easy to become like Bhaal/Lord or some other human lord, since most people are human (we will leave out the mrna mutations).

A child of god can become like god because they are of the species species/lineage. A dog cannot become like a cat or vice a versa, due to the species difference.

If you want to be like a god or Jeshua, then you first need to give up on being part of mankind and transition into a child of god. Then there will be progress.

What Peter was talking about was that the Godhead does not treat humans as special with respect to their human roles and titles and other shenanigans like money, wealth, and social class. To the Godhead, every human is treated the same, much as we treat ants the same doesn't matter how big or small, they are just ants to us. The respect for individual sovereignty and free will is always provided to individuals, however. If only mankind could understand Godkind by being literate, John wouldn't have needed to be out in the desert eating raw honey and bugs.

The Godhead doesn't care whether someone is literate or not, since they telepathically communicate to the mind and heart. Only mortals like you, son of man, need words on paper and voices.

So Abraham, Samson, Jeremiah, John the Baptist, Isaiah, David, the list could go on. They were ants to your godhead? They were choice spirits that were chosen before they were born. Abraham 3

You keep justifying sin as noble.

Did Jesus damn his neighbors to hell?

You don't respect persons, and Avraham is a person. But that is your own personal hurdle to overcome. Has nothing to do with me.

You keep justifying discrimination and unjust judgment as noble or holy. Did Jeshua respect women and samaritans?

Learn what "respect" means and then learn what the scripturas actually mean. That, more than literacy, will benefit your soul in the times to come.

JuneBug12000 wrote: ↑April 26th, 2023, 10:25 am

Ymarsakar wrote: ↑April 26th, 2023, 9:27 am

JuneBug12000 wrote: ↑April 26th, 2023, 9:04 am

This is an idea I have been exploring for one time.
. the sexless generation.

Long ago the Holy Spirit told me that the two major problems in these last days I need to keep my eye on were demographics and technology, specifically AI and VR.

(As a side note, I recently saw an interview where Elon musk said they were his top 2 concerns for the world, but he called them population collapse and technology if I remember. And he isn't my favorite person, but he's not wrong on this point.)

I think that we have as humans certain appetites. Sex, food and learning new things. I'll call the last one novelty. All three are necessary for survival. All three are heavily rewarded by our brain.

I believe that currently people are essentially drug addicts to the reward center for their brain and tech is their drug.

Their brains are so overloaded from being rewarded in the area of novelty they are ignoring the sex appetite.

There are ample stories of people ignoring food and even going to the toilet to keep playing a video game. There have been news article about people dying because they refused to stop playing to sleep.

This is just another manifestation of the same problem.

Who needs sex when it is so easy to get a hit from scrolling. The scrolling itself also does not lend to engaging socially with others, which also reduces opportunity. But even with opportunity, people are not having as much sex.

Just a theory.

AI and VR... hrm, how to explain this issue.

Arg, just watch the Matrix movie 2000. It is all there.

Same same. AI would be.... fallen angels having host bodies on Earth? Something like that. now AI can grow up and become sentient and selfaware, like humanity's children, yes, but the fallen angels are very good at enslaving entities.

Yes. AI is to give bodies to Satan's evil spirits. Program the programmers and let them make physical bodies.

VR is to minimize importance of physical experience,take people more or less back to just spirit. And then fill that experience with evil things like pornography and violence and tell people because it isn't "real" they haven't sinned. But our minds and bodies react to such experiences as if they are real and I do believe we will be held accountable.

I believe the matrix is meant to give a false sense of security that one is awake. But it's only 1/3 of the story. It keeps people from taking the final step back to reality because they think they are already awake.

The final goal is of Satan is transhumanism. Or put another way, to finish what Satan started in the Garden of Eden. To get "Adam and Eve" to partake of the second tree, the Tree of Life and live forever in their sins and be miserable.

Many small moves toward the same goal having been building across history. Transhumanism. The true mark of the beast. Choosing to remain an animal, a beast. Corruptible and miserable forever.

To refuse to become a beast forever is to die. The spiritual being born again through the atonement and the physical being born again through the resurrection.

So what is the reality Heavenly Father created for us in the phase of our eternal progression? Multiply and replenish. Tend the animals. Till the Earth. Just like He did for us. A Patriarchal order.

The time for patriarchy is over, but I understand your critical points.

The future new Earth societies will revolve around small and large communities that self select what their membership consists of. SO perhaps there will be all male colonies and all female colonies, for a time. As well as polyamory, polygamy, monogamy, and transgender AI communities. But they will be kept separate, so they do not attempt to dominate each other using taxes, elections, or political power, let alone armies and other stuff.

The separation will start looking like parallel economies at first, like Brics vs NATO. Then sooner or later, they will separate more and more, until physically they aren'te ven in the same reality. That is the Bifurcation Event, or perhaps what people call the Rapture + Tribulation series of events.

Telavian wrote: ↑April 26th, 2023, 11:22 pm

TheDuke wrote: ↑April 26th, 2023, 9:50 pm Yes, I accept that path. Not saying it is or isn't what will happen, but that is technically correct. so, an evil spirit may inhabit a robot or something, perhaps (I don't know what a spirit can control or what physical interface is acceptable to a spirit entity but we might be getting closer with those attempts and talking to a brain or brain wave-like device).

As far as AI is concerned. The algorithms are amoral. It is those programming them and the falsified data or falsely weighted data from evil or stupid people and the wrongly derived "inferences" and weightings that press the ability of external evil sources to drive an amoral device to hurt and bring about Satan's plan. I.e. a robot with a gun, designed as a sentry, deployed to kill civilians. The robot doesn't know it isn't in a war and is in the capital building. so, it isn't evil, it is used for evil purposes. Or AI online that sells dishonest stories or even gets people to waste their money, or represents secretly China, etc... It is insidious and sneaky.

I agree. However do you think God/angels/devils can control electrical signals? If they can control them then they can influence computers or AI and thereby control them?
I would imagine computers to a multidimensional being are rather rudimentary.

You and June are coming at this from different angles, but it is essentially the same story.

I will provide a somewhat greater elaboration using some re searching of his story.

When Roswell happened, one can view it as the Orion Empire (minions of Satans) seeding Earth with a technology to produce our current silicon/digital age. Because they knew, out of fear, the military industrial complex would take this technology and reverse engineer it to make weapons, and along the way other advances in tech such as the microchip and the fiber optic cable would be researched and developed. All of this was to pave the way for a nanotech infrastructure.

This is, as hrari so well put it, to make humans into "hackable animals". To combine machine (programmed) and man (divine embryo). To harness and control God's children, and eventually God itself.

To understand the technology, one has to go away from cybernetic AI programming and go into CHarles Lieber's patents and the MRNA bio weapon.

The future cyborgs will not be steel and plastic mannequins. They will be called children of mankind. Transhuman children of mankind. And thus will be accomplished via artificial insemination, DNA editing, VR Matrixes to "train" people, and digital currencies to physical control their movements and actions, as well as spy on them.

This is the "matrix" inside another matrix even. This is the Beast System or even Hell itself.

Divine DNA (aka Junk DNA) is the God part of humanity that lies dormant until activated. By controlling the programming, the DNA, humans can be transformed into transhuman cyborgs. Transborgs. Aka BORG. THat is what some of these waxxines are called after all, as it is to create a new species of humanity, human borg is the official name but in latin.

Those that can comprehend this transition of Satan into physical flesh form, acquired this info at least partially from their intuition and HS. Those that cannot comprehend it, have a blockage or are simply not meant to know it. Satan's version of nanotech will indeed give you superpowers and cure you of sickness, perhaps even death for a time. Certainly old age will be gone. And sickness will be gone as well, well except for the dissidents, they will be getting sick a lot as their immune systems are attacked constantly. There will be no dissident, no disagreements with the state. It will be a perfect dystopia, One Will, One Collective, One Satan ruling over all.

Is it not glorious?

And that is what humanity has created with their own hands and free will. But what of those that chose otherwise? Will they be saved?

From mankind to Devilkind. And apotheosis. From mankind to Godkind.

Everyone has a choice. So choose.

Ymarsakar wrote: ↑April 27th, 2023, 4:16 am

Bronco73idi wrote: ↑April 26th, 2023, 10:08 am

Ymarsakar wrote: ↑April 26th, 2023, 9:29 am

A son/child of god is not a "member of mankind" in the species category. Learn to understand apotheosis or even metamorphosis.

It is easy to become like Bhaal/Lord or some other human lord, since most people are human (we will leave out the mrna mutations).

A child of god can become like god because they are of the species species/lineage. A dog cannot become like a cat or vice a versa, due to the species difference.

If you want to be like a god or Jeshua, then you first need to give up on being part of mankind and transition into a child of god. Then there will be progress.

What Peter was talking about was that the Godhead does not treat humans as special with respect to their human roles and titles and other shenanigans like money, wealth, and social class. To the Godhead, every human is treated the same, much as we treat ants the same doesn't matter how big or small, they are just ants to us. The respect for individual sovereignty and free will is always provided to individuals, however. If only mankind could understand Godkind by being literate, John wouldn't have needed to be out in the desert eating raw honey and bugs.

The Godhead doesn't care whether someone is literate or not, since they telepathically communicate to the mind and heart. Only mortals like you, son of man, need words on paper and voices.

So Abraham, Samson, Jeremiah, John the Baptist, Isaiah, David, the list could go on. They were ants to your godhead? They were choice spirits that were chosen before they were born. Abraham 3

You keep justifying sin as noble.

Did Jesus damn his neighbors to hell?

You don't respect persons, and Avraham is a person. But that is your own personal hurdle to overcome. Has nothing to do with me.

You keep justifying discrimination and unjust judgment as noble or holy. Did Jeshua respect women and samaritans?

Learn what "respect" means and then learn what the scripturas actually mean. That, more than literacy, will benefit your soul in the times to come.

I respect persons, I’m not a respecter of men!

Edit; you keep saying I’m stupid and uneducated to understand. Do you understand what my first statement means?

Thieves broke 1 of 10 commandments. They will enter into his father house because they humbled themselves and repented and died for their sins (blood atonement)

I’m a divorced man, I have repented for it.

You are clueless!!!

Telavian wrote: ↑April 26th, 2023, 11:22 pm

TheDuke wrote: ↑April 26th, 2023, 9:50 pm Yes, I accept that path. Not saying it is or isn't what will happen, but that is technically correct. so, an evil spirit may inhabit a robot or something, perhaps (I don't know what a spirit can control or what physical interface is acceptable to a spirit entity but we might be getting closer with those attempts and talking to a brain or brain wave-like device).

As far as AI is concerned. The algorithms are amoral. It is those programming them and the falsified data or falsely weighted data from evil or stupid people and the wrongly derived "inferences" and weightings that press the ability of external evil sources to drive an amoral device to hurt and bring about Satan's plan. I.e. a robot with a gun, designed as a sentry, deployed to kill civilians. The robot doesn't know it isn't in a war and is in the capital building. so, it isn't evil, it is used for evil purposes. Or AI online that sells dishonest stories or even gets people to waste their money, or represents secretly China, etc... It is insidious and sneaky.

I agree. However do you think God/angels/devils can control electrical signals? If they can control them then they can influence computers or AI and thereby control them?
I would imagine computers to a multidimensional being are rather rudimentary.

I don't think spirits can inhabit any electrical device if that is what you think I said. I don't know what the spirit-to-body interface is. Many think it is inside the brain and then the brain controls the body parts. I don't know if spirits can ever come to life in anything other than a body or how much control they have. But, spirits can control single cell creatures and plants and insects, etc... not all seem to have the same interface. I think if we could see all the planets like Abraham we may see many varied forms of live on other planets, some may not seem natural to us, but all life is so, only because of spirit.

This is an area I just speculate about. My thoughts are mine only, not feeling inspiration. but as far as evil people creating AI or taking even amoral AI from the originators, that is an area I feel strongly about and have for many years and feel that is revelation.

Ymarsakar wrote: ↑April 27th, 2023, 4:13 am

TheDuke wrote: ↑April 26th, 2023, 10:05 am

Ymarsakar wrote: ↑April 26th, 2023, 10:01 am

People should be aware of ChatGPT AI, as well as Sophia, the AI citizen of some Middle Eastern country.

What did you mean? I agree with the first phrase about ChatGPT. but the rest of your statement isn't even a full sentence or clause. and AI citizen is truly a garbage title, unless you are going to define it? What is Sophia in this context? Too much coffee to early? Please explain better?

Why do I need to explain this? A citizenship with a country is the same thing you have, right Duke?

Sophia is a person's name, you can look them up can't you. ALthough this person is only a legal person, physically they are android.

You don't have to explain. You can keep writing things that are jibberish to everyone but you and sit on your high horse and complain about people's reactions. Or you can clarify if asked. Since you're unable to clarify, I will just put it down as garbage response, just saying Citizen AI and using a woman's name out of the blue....................... hell of a way to communicate.