Pres. Nelson checks off another last times event

[Teancum1]

In order to recieve the ordinances laid out in the scriptures above requires the essential keys and authority to do so which are only found within the LDS Church.

These essential keys of the Melchizedek Priesthood were taken when that priesthood was taken. We were left with only a lesser priesthood. The work still goes on, but without the higher priesthood.

Joseph was told by the Lord that the keys would stay with him in the next life. That means he took them with him. Why else do you think prophesying, seeing , and revealing have stopped?

BY and the 12 had the keys of the apostleship, but those are not the keys of the kingdom. That simply meant the apostleship could continue. They never were authorized to reform the First Presidency. They never had a revelation to do so.

And the Saints were scattered- all over the place- and somehow Brigham and his followers were the “true church” after the Prophet Joseph and his brothers were murdered.
What happened to Sidney Rigdon- a high priest who was actually in the First Presidency and had seen the Savior? Brigham never claimed to have any heavenly visitation. But somehow he became more important than Joseph in the narrative moving forward.

[Teancum1]

Not sure why you all mock “ covenant path”. .

Because it is nowhere to be found in all of scripture. The "covenant path" is a counterfeit to the "straight and narrow path".

As if all the holy prophets, including the Savior, simply got it wrong and all the world had to wait until just a few years ago to finally have leaders inspired enough to listen for the correct term.

How about we just use Jesus’ words and quote him- Faith, Repentance, Baptism by water, and then coming the Baptism of Fire and the Holy Ghost.
Why not preach about how to receive the baptism of fire? I haven’t heard much of that…and it’s not confirmation. It is an actual experience- not “so much dust on the windowsill and the dews on the grass”. If all of us were striving to develop faith, repent and then receive the baptism of fire- this would be a different church.

Now we have a non scriptural substitute- stay on the covenant path- Jesus never said these words. He taught us his doctrine repeatedly in 3 Nephi 11:32-41. He didn’t teach the covenant path.

[BigT]

What happened to Sidney Rigdon- a high priest who was actually in the First Presidency and had seen the Savior? Brigham never claimed to have any heavenly visitation. But somehow he became more important than Joseph in the narrative moving forward.

Sidney was the only man one to be known had been ordained a PSR; no evidence BY or any of the other polygamist 1 had.

But, BY was certainly better qualified to turn the saints over to Satan, as the Lord said would happen in Book of Commandments 4:6. He did a bang-up job at that.

[nightlight]

Bet you a buck that Nelson thinks the kids who are aged 0-25 are those who will be the senior members of the church when the Savior comes

[Teancum1]

Bet you a buck that Nelson thinks the kids who are aged 0-25 are those who will be the senior members of the church when the Savior comes

By that time they’ll all have gone through their transgender reassignments.

[HVDC]

Bet you a buck that Nelson thinks the kids who are aged 0-25 are those who will be the senior members of the church when the Savior comes

By that time they’ll all have gone through their transgender reassignments.

Reunited.

At last.

Eve attached back to Adam.

A complete human.

God's actual image according to the fakers who own/rule us.

Guess that will cut down on the divorce rate.

Sir H

[InfoWarrior82]

The Church still holds the keys of the kingdom and will until they are handed over at AOA.

They may have been ordained with keys, but that's still not a guarantee that they have power or authority. What does D&C 121 say about this very thing?

The necessary keys are what gives power and authority

Then why haven't we seen power and authority from our church leaders? Didn't Christ instruct everyone to make sure men who claimed to be prophets actually have fruits of prophets?

[sushi_chef]

ummm...
moses 6:7 says priesthood in the last day .. what does it mean???

"5 And a book of remembrance was kept, in the which was recorded, in the language of Adam, for it was given unto as many as called upon God to write by the spirit of inspiration;

6 And by them their children were taught to read and write, having a language which was pure and undefiled.

7 Now this same Priesthood, which was in the beginning, shall be in the end of the world also.

8 Now this prophecy Adam spake, as he was moved upon by the Holy Ghost, and a genealogy was kept of the children of God. And this was the book of the generations of Adam, saying: In the day that God created man, in the likeness of God made he him;
"
moses 6

[ransomme]

What do you think it means? I think it means peope who have made covenants with the Lord and are keeping them.

Well, the "covenant path" of course. The LDS church and only the LDS church. All other religions are lost according to the LDS org, other religious people certainly cannot make real covenants w/ God without proper "keys and authority".

Not sure why you all mock “ covenant path”. Many prophets (John the Baptist, Isaiah, Moses, Nephi…) use very similar language to describe the same thing. They called it The Way, an Highway, His Path, a Way…. In fact the apostolic church right after Christ’s called the church “The Way”.

Mock isn't the intent, definitely not mine anyhow. But what is currently prescribed by the Church is not in the BoM, and not even in the D&C. In fact, the D&C makes it clear that the Church was rejected, things have been added to and His ordinance changed. The things promised to be revealed to Joseph once the Nauvoo temple was to have been completed never took place. And all for standard works describe a future point when there will be the restoration of all things.

[ransomme]

ummm...
moses 6:7 says priesthood in the last day .. what does it mean???

"5 And a book of remembrance was kept, in the which was recorded, in the language of Adam, for it was given unto as many as called upon God to write by the spirit of inspiration;

6 And by them their children were taught to read and write, having a language which was pure and undefiled.

7 Now this same Priesthood, which was in the beginning, shall be in the end of the world also.

8 Now this prophecy Adam spake, as he was moved upon by the Holy Ghost, and a genealogy was kept of the children of God. And this was the book of the generations of Adam, saying: In the day that God created man, in the likeness of God made he him;
"
moses 6

That is the Day of the Lord, End of Times, a short period of time surrounding the Second Advent of Yeshua. (Perhaps a 7-15 year window in all, but we shall see)

[ransomme]

What happened to Sidney Rigdon- a high priest who was actually in the First Presidency and had seen the Savior? Brigham never claimed to have any heavenly visitation. But somehow he became more important than Joseph in the narrative moving forward.

Sidney was the only man one to be known had been ordained a PSR; no evidence BY or any of the other polygamist 1 had.

But, BY was certainly better qualified to turn the saints over to Satan, as the Lord said would happen in Book of Commandments 4:6. He did a bang-up job at that.

A close buddy is mine that I haven't talked to in a while sent this message this morning

Sorry I’m slow… but this pattern came as epiphany:

Lehi lived among the establishment church of that day… in “Salt Lake City” of that time. The establishment church had gone apostate with abominations (Jer 13:27, adulteries, whoredoms)… probably polygamy/concubines etc.

Lehi gets redeemed and tries to convince the other members of the church but they won’t listen. They may have even “excommunicated” him or equivalent. Laman and Lemuel are like them, trusting the church leadership, that they cannot be destroyed. Nephi was also raised in this religious culture, but he believes his dad, seeks the Lord, and is redeemed.

[sushi_chef]

" ..
31 And the boundaries of the everlasting hills shall tremble at their presence.

32 And there shall they fall down and be crowned with glory, even in Zion, by the hands of the servants of the Lord, even the children of Ephraim.

33 And they shall be filled with songs of everlasting joy.

34 Behold, this is the blessing of the everlasting God upon the tribes of Israel, and the richer blessing upon the head of Ephraim and his fellows.
..
" 133

"7 For as Joseph brought his father down into the land of Egypt, even so he died there; wherefore, the Lord brought a remnant of the seed of Joseph out of the land of Jerusalem, that he might be merciful unto the seed of Joseph that they should perish not, even as he was merciful unto the father of Joseph that he should perish not.

8 Wherefore, the remnant of the house of Joseph shall be built upon this land; and it shall be a land of their inheritance; and they shall build up a holy city unto the Lord, like unto the Jerusalem of old; and they shall no more be confounded, until the end come when the earth shall pass away.
..
" ether 13

so, then prolly the Ten Lost Tribes will receive that priesthood glory through the hands of one mighty and strong ...

[sushi_chef]

dup

[Shawn Henry]

I very much disagree with your conclusion but due to lack of time, here are a couple of articles that sum it up quite well.
Below the links is a quote from one of the articles.

https://emp.byui.edu/satterfieldb/rel34 ... 20of%20Man.

https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/stu ... d?lang=eng

"When the Lord gave the keys of the kingdom of God, the keys of the Melchizedek Priesthood, of the apostleship, and sealed them upon the head of Joseph Smith, he sealed them upon his head to stay here upon the earth until the coming of the Son of Man. Well might Brigham Young say, “The keys of the kingdom of God are here.” They were with him to the day of his death. They then rested upon the head of another man -- President John Taylor. He held those keys to the hour of his death. They then fell by turn, or in the providence of God, upon Wilford Woodruff.

"I say to the Latter-day Saints, the keys of the kingdom of God are here, and they are going to stay here, too, until the coming of the Son of Man. Let all Israel understand that. They may not rest upon my head but a short time, but they will then rest on the head of another apostle, and another after him, and so continue until the coming of the Lord Jesus Christ in the clouds of heaven to “reward every man according to the deeds done in the body.”

Not that you need me to warn you, but you are not given primacy to what the Lord has said in the D&C. Whenever there is a conflict, it is wise to choose the Lord's words over the teachings of leaders.

[Shawn Henry]

ummm...
moses 6:7 says priesthood in the last day .. what does it mean???

"5 And a book of remembrance was kept, in the which was recorded, in the language of Adam, for it was given unto as many as called upon God to write by the spirit of inspiration;

6 And by them their children were taught to read and write, having a language which was pure and undefiled.

7 Now this same Priesthood, which was in the beginning, shall be in the end of the world also.

8 Now this prophecy Adam spake, as he was moved upon by the Holy Ghost, and a genealogy was kept of the children of God. And this was the book of the generations of Adam, saying: In the day that God created man, in the likeness of God made he him;
"
moses 6

There are 3 Priesthoods, Aaronic, Patriarchal, and Melchizedek. The Melchizedek was taken in 1834.

The Aaronic and Patriarchal are lineal based priesthoods designed to be passed down from father to son. This is why they are always on the earth, because they are passed down through bloodlines.

[Shawn Henry]

What happened to Sidney Rigdon- a high priest who was actually in the First Presidency and had seen the Savior?

Not only does the D&C say that any one member of the First Presidency can function as the First Presidency in the absence of the other two, meaning the FP was still intact upon the death of Joseph, but Sidney was the only PSR left.

Not only was Sidney Rigdon called, but he was chosen by God as well, proved by the fact that he was called up in vision by God to the throne of God and heard the Father testify of the Son. It doesn't get more prophetic than that. The Lord even compared him to John the Baptist and also told him that he has a future great work for him. We will see Sidney Rigdon return when the Lord sends out "again" the first laborers of the kingdom.

[Teancum1]

What happened to Sidney Rigdon- a high priest who was actually in the First Presidency and had seen the Savior?

Not only does the D&C say that any one member of the First Presidency can function as the First Presidency in the absence of the other two, meaning the FP was still intact upon the death of Joseph, but Sidney was the only PSR left.

Not only was Sidney Rigdon called, but he was chosen by God as well, proved by the fact that he was called up in vision by God to the throne of God and heard the Father testify of the Son. It doesn't get more prophetic than that. The Lord even compared him to John the Baptist and also told him that he has a future great work for him. We will see Sidney Rigdon return when the Lord sends out "again" the first laborers of the kingdom.

It’s always been a mystery that Sidney was excommunicated- after all he had experienced. I guess he wasn’t a fan of the polygamist movement and paid the price.
I can’t quite understand how why no one today questions the succession process that emerged. Certainly the way BY was “chosen” was not scriptural.

[Roy Rogers]

Don’t underestimate the power of our mainstream Christian brothers and sisters! They are the ones trying to stop the holocaust of the mass murder of little babies and the trafficking of children, while our church plays the fiddle.

[Being There]

I was only addressing Ampertlins question on the endowment.

Ok, but does this make my question any less valid?

Speaking from my own experience I don't believe they've lost their validity and because it is literally the Lord's house I can feel the spirit stronger in the temple than anywhere else.

you must have a great imagination then
(people see and believe - what they want to see and believe - and feel)
because a building - ANY BUILDING - doesn't make you closer to the spirit
and you can feel the spirit stronger.
(you don't need a building for that)
and Christians - that will never enter an LDS temple -feel the spirit
just as much if not more - than ANY LDS temple goer ever could.

[Being There]

The Church still holds the keys of the kingdom and will until they are handed over at AOA.

They may have been ordained with keys, but that's still not a guarantee that they have power or authority. What does D&C 121 say about this very thing?

The necessary keys are what gives power and authority and was one of the sole purposes of the resoration. This is how baptism or any other ordinance is given...with the proper power and authority....due to the holding of the proper keys. I still believe the priesthood keys are with the church.

I still believe the priesthood keys are with the church.

I guess then that you don't even know what's going on in your own church -
for I don't know how many years now.
Nor in the World Babylon - and how the church has become such apart of it -
as Good Global Citizens - participating in every evil thing it has to offer -
and offering it and asking members to join with them - in joining with satan-
by serving and do what World leaders say - who serve him.

[Being There]

They may have been ordained with keys, but that's still not a guarantee that they have power or authority. What does D&C 121 say about this very thing?

The necessary keys are what gives power and authority and was one of the sole purposes of the resoration. This is how baptism or any other ordinance is given...with the proper power and authority....due to the holding of the proper keys. I still believe the priesthood keys are with the church.

I still believe the priesthood keys are with the church.

I guess then that you don't even know what's going on in your own church -
for I don't know how many years -
nor in the World Babylon - and how the church has become such apart of it -
as Good Global Citizens - participating in every evil thing it has to offer -
and offering it and asking members to join with them - in joining with satan-
by serving and do what World leaders say - who serve him.

like I've said -


"if you had ever questioned if Nelson was a false prophet, and whether or not the church had
gone astray,
I think that question has been answered for you.

""ONE GREAT GLOBAL FAMILY"
Pres. Nelson
(sounds more like what satan (the god of this world) would say)



"The actions of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints are directed first and foremost
at protecting their interests in Babylon; which they play a big part in.
With their great efforts at being "Good Global Citizens", and Agenda 2030.
and with "The LDS Church is also donating millions of dollars to Gavi, the Vaccine Alliance
(founded by the Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation), which is very much involved in the the
COVID-19 vaccine race.
They also donate to W.H.O. and others."
https://www.ldsfreedomforum.com/viewtop ... 1#p1055711

The COJCOLDS is NOT the Great and Abominable Church, - it's part of it.
We've "joined " and "united" with it.
2 Nephi 6

12 And blessed are the Gentiles, they of whom the prophet has written; for behold,
if it so be that they shall repent and fight not against Zion, and do not unite themselves to that great and abominable church
* ( so, this verse shows that there is a possibility that this could happen. and it has.


Dictionary
hinge -
"attach or join with or as if with a hinge"

This is what President Nelson said:
"This is a hinge point in the history of the church."

I wouldn't want to be shaking hands with this guy.
The pope is a leading figure in the NWO trying to unite all religions. ie ( the Great and Abominable Church )

"If you are in a church organization which looks on world unity
and ecumenical efforts as desirable, YOU ARE IN the Whore Church,
and you will either get OUT of her, or you will be damned to hell and consumed
by the wrath of a holy God. "

Rome Temple dedication - and meeting with the pope,
President Nelson said:
"This is a hinge point in the history of the church.
Things are going to move forward at an accelerated pace, of which this is a part,"

"His Holiness, he was most gracious and warm and welcoming," ,
"What a sweet, wonderful man he is, and how fortunate the Catholic people are to have such a gracious,
concerned, loving and capable leader."

The pope is also most likely the "false prophet" in Rev 19:20
and could be the "another beast" in Revelation 13: 11
https://www.ldsfreedomforum.com/viewtop ... t#p1022271

If you are looking - as so many members are, for some hint about the future -
thinking that these men receive revelation, and are in any way more important or worthy than you,
or more inspired than you are, and know something you don't,
then I think you are looking for something that's just not there, and are wasting your time.

What makes it worse - for them, is that - they're suppose to be inspired men of God -
leaders of - what they say is the only true and living church on Earth; with a living prophet -
men that many members look up to,
but it's obvious (at least to anyone that's not asleep - and that doesn't just blindly follow them)
that they have been deceived, and are not led by the Lord - and do not receive revelation from Him -
nor do they do His work - but have joined and do the work of the leaders of the World who they serve -
and the one who controls this World.

11 And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie:
12 That they all might be damned who believed not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness.
2 Thessalonians 2

Nelson's example alone - asking his followers to be "GOOD GLOBAL CITIZENS"
and follow him and join with those World leaders - who he follows - and who serve satan -
speaks for itself.

* "WE HAVE PRAYED FOR THIS LITERAL GODSEND.
RECEIVING THE VACCINE IS PART OF OUR PERSONAL EFFORTS TO BE
GOOD GLOBAL CITIZENS"
RMN



***
21 And others will he pacify, and lull them away into carnal security, that they will say:
All is well in Zion; yea, Zion prospereth,
all is well—and thus the devil cheateth their souls, and leadeth them away carefully down to hell. ***

24 Therefore, wo be unto him that is at ease in Zion!
25 Wo be unto him that crieth: All is well!
2 Nephi 28

uniting with the whore Church - that "great and abominable church" of the devil

No prophet of God could ever be a Good Global Citizen
https://www.ldsfreedomforum.com/viewtop ... 7#p1144967


satan is the god of this World,
and a prophet of God would not be serving satan and the leaders that serve him and are controlling it.

How can you be a Good Global Citizen and be a prophet of God at the same time -
How can you follow the ways of this evil World and be a part of Babylon serving and following satan
and say that you're the true church and God leads the church through His prophet !

Good Global Citizens
https://www.ldsfreedomforum.com/viewtop ... =1&t=54748

"Global" ANYTHING is synonymous with NWO, and the EVIL plan the "Globalist" have for the entire World;
WHICH INCLUDED THIS PLANNEDEMIC and EVIL INJECTION ! , that the church is on board with all of it !

"GOOD GLOBAL CITIZENS" = uniting with the whore Church - that "great and abominable church" of the devil.

"If you are in a church organization which looks on world unity
and ecumenical efforts as desirable, YOU ARE IN the Whore Church,
and you will either get OUT of her, or you will be damned to hell and consumed by the wrath of a holy God. "

"Soon, all world religion will unite into THE whore, the last great wicked harlot monster of religious compromise."


Ether 8

24 Wherefore, the Lord commandeth you, when ye shall see these things come among you
that ye shall awake to a sense of your awful situation.

I see some members - like I see in this forum, are still blind and asleep, and still think that "all is well in Zion"
and still believe in their false prophet RMN; (even after everything we've seen the church do.) SMH.

It's obvious that they put more faith and trust in him and the church
than they do in the Lord's words and what the scriptures say,
and what they can see with their own eyes. - the fruits of church leaders.

They still want to believe in a church that has become corrupt and fallen into apostasy -
just as the scriptures said the Gentiles would - warning us not to unite with the church of the devil - but we have.

WHY WOULD THE LORD SAY THIS - IF IT WERE NOT POSSIBLE ?
"And blessed are the Gentiles" - "if it so be that they shall repent"
"and do not unite themselves to that great and abominable church,"

2 Nephi 6

12 And blessed are the Gentiles, they of whom the prophet has written; for behold,
if it so be that they shall repent and fight not against Zion,
and do not unite themselves to that great and abominable church,
they shall be saved; for the Lord God will fulfil his covenants which he has made unto his children;
and for this cause the prophet has written these things.

[FrankOne]

ummm...
moses 6:7 says priesthood in the last day .. what does it mean???

"5 And a book of remembrance was kept, in the which was recorded, in the language of Adam, for it was given unto as many as called upon God to write by the spirit of inspiration;

6 And by them their children were taught to read and write, having a language which was pure and undefiled.

7 Now this same Priesthood, which was in the beginning, shall be in the end of the world also.

8 Now this prophecy Adam spake, as he was moved upon by the Holy Ghost, and a genealogy was kept of the children of God. And this was the book of the generations of Adam, saying: In the day that God created man, in the likeness of God made he him;
"
moses 6

There are 3 Priesthoods, Aaronic, Patriarchal, and Melchizedek. The Melchizedek was taken in 1834.

The Aaronic and Patriarchal are lineal based priesthoods designed to be passed down from father to son. This is why they are always on the earth, because they are passed down through bloodlines.

ok, you caught my interest on this one.

where can I find that the Melchizedek was taken in 1834? Not that it matters to me, actually, but I had a close friend that worked with an offiical church historian back in the early 90's . The historian was threatened with excommunication when he "discovered" and "proved" that the melchizedek priesthood was never actually given to Joseph Smith at all. The historian quit his position and went awol from the church after that.

Also, what is your source for the Patriarchal priesthood being a blood line priesthood, like the Aaronic? If it is, who has had it in history or currently? Short version is fine.

thanks Shawn

[JuneBug12000]

Not sure why you all mock “ covenant path”. .

Because it is nowhere to be found in all of scripture. The "covenant path" is a counterfeit to the "straight and narrow path".

As if all the holy prophets, including the Savior, simply got it wrong and all the world had to wait until just a few years ago to finally have leaders inspired enough to listen for the correct term.

How about we just use Jesus’ words and quote him- Faith, Repentance, Baptism by water, and then coming the Baptism of Fire and the Holy Ghost.
Why not preach about how to receive the baptism of fire? I haven’t heard much of that…and it’s not confirmation. It is an actual experience- not “so much dust on the windowsill and the dews on the grass”. If all of us were striving to develop faith, repent and then receive the baptism of fire- this would be a different church.

Now we have a non scriptural substitute- stay on the covenant path- Jesus never said these words. He taught us his doctrine repeatedly in 3 Nephi 11:32-41. He didn’t teach the covenant path.

My kids were listening to a hellosaints YouTube video where the pastor went through the Saratoga springs temple open house recently. And we all agreed more with the pastor than the LDS guy when he mentioned a similar point. We were actually talking about the same section on 3 nephi and how the church defies the book of Mormon Jesus, not just the NT Jesus.

[FrankOne]

What happened to Sidney Rigdon- a high priest who was actually in the First Presidency and had seen the Savior?

Not only does the D&C say that any one member of the First Presidency can function as the First Presidency in the absence of the other two, meaning the FP was still intact upon the death of Joseph, but Sidney was the only PSR left.

Not only was Sidney Rigdon called, but he was chosen by God as well, proved by the fact that he was called up in vision by God to the throne of God and heard the Father testify of the Son. It doesn't get more prophetic than that. The Lord even compared him to John the Baptist and also told him that he has a future great work for him. We will see Sidney Rigdon return when the Lord sends out "again" the first laborers of the kingdom.

It’s always been a mystery that Sidney was excommunicated- after all he had experienced. I guess he wasn’t a fan of the polygamist movement and paid the price.
I can’t quite understand how why no one today questions the succession process that emerged. Certainly the way BY was “chosen” was not scriptural.

i think it was nearly all of the witnesses, the 8 as well were ex'd. Excommunication didn't change any of their testimonies, tho.

the practices of JS were a bit hard to take but I don't think he was wrong, just a bit overzealous and he didn't like disagreement or questioning. I still like him and I hope he does come back... who knows?

[Gadianton Slayer]

What happens to the authority of those who are ordained when they abuse their authority, or have corrupted fruits... Or no prophetic fruits to speak of?

I believe the Lord will take care of the things you pointed out if any of those has taken place in His own time but I don't believe we are the ones who get to decide that.

Come on now… of course it’s not up to us, but are we to be blind fools to what is right in front of us? If we aren’t to judge the fruits of those men, then do you believe D&C 121:37-43 was added for no reason?

The absolute most ridiculous response I’ve ever heard from a religious person when their narrative is questioned is this:

“God will take care of it”…

Pish posh. There is a reason we are commanded to judge and to evaluate fruits, to PLUCK OUT the eye when it transgresses. Not to sit idly by worshipping the feet of men who claim monopoly on the power of God.