I think that’s the key takeaway here. Thanks for pointing it out.MikeMaillet wrote: ↑March 27th, 2023, 3:58 am Just a few days ago some of the creators of this technology displayed photographs of Donald Trump being arrested but the photos were 100% made up. Also, technology is now available that can change anyone's voice to make it sound like someone else. The time has arrived where we will not be able to judge any news story for fear that it was all made up by computer.; not just the words but the visuals as well.
Unless angels start appearing to me, the only voice I can trust is the still, small voice.
Mike
I've thought about this many times. There is barely a job between Accounting and Zoo keeping which some robot/computer won't be able to do within the next few years. 2050 according to one estimate, perhaps much less at the current rate. The Chinese and Indians will have the same happen to them.TheDuke wrote: ↑March 28th, 2023, 9:19 pm so, lets be clear. The only true leap forward here is having enough power and memory/speed to process same old inferences faster. Then to have a great language processor to make the often meaningless results seem eloquent. Lastly you get many, many people playing so it gets filled with detailed facts (right or wrong).
What made the chess computers smarter? processing speed. same algorithms. Actually as speed increases the algorithms for chess got simplified as the older ones needed weighted heuristics.
What made Walmart successful? Volume and dumping money. All volume. What made google successful? Processing speed, access to broad areas of the Internet and many users.
Same with AI that speaks. What jobs will Chat like AI take over? Well, telephone jobs where you talk to a number of useless people. Usually useless because they have no authority to correct things, even the supervisor. Robots can build things but not AI. Opposite, you need deterministic computation to operate large robotics near people or people get dead (crushed, hit, drilled, hammered, etc...).
Got to quit convoluting AI, robotics, natural language processing and image processing.
I say for most lost jobs, the problem will be for the Chinese or Indian folks to move to another company as most of those jobs are already overseas.
Probably true, but only to AI, at least in mass if we all somehow agree AI is same as people and interactions with humans are of no value. Perhaps not true for robotics and they can become more profound at doing repeatable jobs.Niemand wrote: ↑March 29th, 2023, 4:24 amI've thought about this many times. There is barely a job between Accounting and Zoo keeping which some robot/computer won't be able to do within the next few years. 2050 according to one estimate, perhaps much less at the current rate. The Chinese and Indians will have the same happen to them.TheDuke wrote: ↑March 28th, 2023, 9:19 pm so, lets be clear. The only true leap forward here is having enough power and memory/speed to process same old inferences faster. Then to have a great language processor to make the often meaningless results seem eloquent. Lastly you get many, many people playing so it gets filled with detailed facts (right or wrong).
What made the chess computers smarter? processing speed. same algorithms. Actually as speed increases the algorithms for chess got simplified as the older ones needed weighted heuristics.
What made Walmart successful? Volume and dumping money. All volume. What made google successful? Processing speed, access to broad areas of the Internet and many users.
Same with AI that speaks. What jobs will Chat like AI take over? Well, telephone jobs where you talk to a number of useless people. Usually useless because they have no authority to correct things, even the supervisor. Robots can build things but not AI. Opposite, you need deterministic computation to operate large robotics near people or people get dead (crushed, hit, drilled, hammered, etc...).
Got to quit convoluting AI, robotics, natural language processing and image processing.
I say for most lost jobs, the problem will be for the Chinese or Indian folks to move to another company as most of those jobs are already overseas.
It is sad to see this happen in the arts, but it proves that most people's cultural/artistic consumption is repetitive, unoriginal and predictable. I don't believe AI "gets" creativity, but it produces a simulacrum of it.
The Luddites worked out this process early on when their physical jobs were being replaced. Since then technology has provided some new jobs (such as IT), but currently the replacement rate isn't high enough and the pool of jobs is decreasing.
In an ideal world, sensible rulers would work out this situation could benefit everyone, and we would improve our minds and lives through experiences we would not have if tied down by work. But we don't live in an ideal world.
The end result will be billions of angry unemployed and a few hundred (maybe thousand), living in their castles and compounds, and luxury islands, off accumulated wealth. That isn't a good ratio and the powerful people know that. One solution is to reduce our numbers in their favour, another is to promote infighting among the masses, another is to corral us into small ringfenced areas, another is to put us into virtual reality/sedate us with "drugs and video games" (as Noah Yuval Harari calls it). I see all of those solutions currently happening at some level. The transgender thing has a dual/triple purpose perhaps — voluntary sterilisation, creating infighting and also a soft-peddle into transhumanism.
People post videos on here which are everything from 30 seconds to five hours long, and more. They often give you no idea of how long they are. Fred's video in the last post there is half an hour long, for example, which is not horrific, but I would have had no idea unless I'd scrolled to the end of the video link to find out.endlessQuestions wrote: ↑March 26th, 2023, 9:00 pm For those who can’t read things more than 5 pages long or watch things more than 5 minutes in duration, I apologize in advance.
