Church Inc. is a tare

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GüdFüdDude wrote: March 19th, 2023, 12:45 pm Enjoyed the video.

In the video, the person mentions a JST document retained by Emma and kept out of BY's hands etc "for over a hundred years".

(I think it was the JST Bible translation, not sure.)

Does this mean the JST footnotes in the LDS Bible are only a small portion of what I otherwise could be reading of his translation?

What was implied to happen after the 100 years? -- was there a full JST Bible that was published?

If so, where is it? (If it's common in LDS bookstores, I wonder how I missed it.)
"It was not until the efforts of Robert Matthews in the 1960s, about one hundred years after the first publication of the JST by the RLDS community, that access was granted to him, a scholar from The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, to compare the RLDS publications with the original manuscripts. It soon became evident that, by and large, the publications had been accurate to the original manuscripts. Yet it has still taken some time to overcome the stigma of the JST among the Latter-day Saint community, who for over a century had looked upon the JST with suspicion at best. That sentiment continued to change with the Church’s publication of the scriptures in 1979, which includes an appendix of changes the JST makes to the biblical text as well as many footnotes throughout the biblical text of smaller changes."

https://byustudies.byu.edu/article/the- ... the-bible/

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Bronco73idi wrote: March 19th, 2023, 1:25 pm
Shawn Henry wrote: March 19th, 2023, 1:05 pm
Bronco73idi wrote: March 19th, 2023, 12:42 pm I do not believe a woman should be educating men on the everlasting covenant, not because she is a woman and only needs to be taught by her Husband as Paul and Moses had instructed.
There were plenty of women prophetesses and I'm sure they were all completely capable of teaching men. Gender has nothing to do with one's ability to teach.

I wholeheartedly reject your premise.
My reply was worded in a way that might be over your head brother. Did any of these prophetess teach or renew the everlasting covenant?

Per Isaiah we are damned for breaking the everlasting covenant, if it was only baptism wouldn’t it be easy to fix?

We then could be like mother Teresa and baptize the dying and let the lord deal with them.
TBH, It was worded in an ignorant way.

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ransomme wrote: March 19th, 2023, 2:55 pm
Bronco73idi wrote: March 19th, 2023, 1:25 pm
Shawn Henry wrote: March 19th, 2023, 1:05 pm
There were plenty of women prophetesses and I'm sure they were all completely capable of teaching men. Gender has nothing to do with one's ability to teach.

I wholeheartedly reject your premise.
My reply was worded in a way that might be over your head brother. Did any of these prophetess teach or renew the everlasting covenant?

Per Isaiah we are damned for breaking the everlasting covenant, if it was only baptism wouldn’t it be easy to fix?

We then could be like mother Teresa and baptize the dying and let the lord deal with them.
TBH, It was worded in an ignorant way.
The only reason a Christian has to turn the other cheek is because they won’t bow down to Babylon.

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Bronco73idi wrote: March 19th, 2023, 2:49 pm Remember, Jesus was sexist!
No, I don't remember that. I don't remember that at all. I remember him saying all are equal.

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Shawn Henry wrote: March 19th, 2023, 3:11 pm
Bronco73idi wrote: March 19th, 2023, 2:49 pm Remember, Jesus was sexist!
No, I don't remember that. I don't remember that at all. I remember him saying all are equal.
To Babylon’s standards he was racist and sexist.

Matthew 15
26 But he answered and said, It is not meet to take the children’s bread, and to cast it to dogs.

Imagine calling a dark skin woman (Lebanese) a dog.

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tares ..

"Re: Deseret News calls for Trump to resign his candidacy
Post by GeeR » Wed Oct 12, 2016 7:16 am

The tares within have hijacked the Church, Public Affairs Dept. and the church owned Deseret News! "Follow the Prophet"--"What luck," says Satan "control the voice of one man or as few as 12, and you can control 15 million people." Do the math! It seems obvious to me the tares within the church are part of the secret combination who have "gotten above us" (Either 8:23) meaning they infiltrated both the U.S. Government and the Mormon Church to the point that they control "the sole management of the government" and "choke the wheat" (D&C 86:1-7) i.e. silence the "watchmen" of Zion concerning the Islamization of the United States of America. Not only do they "choke the wheat" so that when the brethren speak they omit warning (sounding the alarm) of danger (Islamization of America=our demise in steps) but the grip around their throats are loosened enough for them to parrot the threats and agenda of the tares under threat of duress, viz. homosexuals allowed in Boy Scouts, homosexuals can now attend B.Y.U., "Same sex attraction is not a sin", the church endorses the Utah Compact, the anti-discrimination law in Utah against free-agency, the skin of blackness is not a curse, now members can partake of the "evil gift" (Moro 10:30)--Socialism, Syrian refugees are not invaders and immigration not an invasion, we should bomb Iraq, we must love and have compassion for our brother when he is hell-bent on killing you and your family, Islam is a religion of peace when in fact 60% of the Quran is a command for Muslins to kill all Jews and Christians, Trump should step-down. Etc.
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sushi_chef wrote: March 19th, 2023, 5:52 pm tares ..

"Re: Deseret News calls for Trump to resign his candidacy
Post by GeeR » Wed Oct 12, 2016 7:16 am

The tares within have hijacked the Church, Public Affairs Dept. and the church owned Deseret News! "Follow the Prophet"--"What luck," says Satan "control the voice of one man or as few as 12, and you can control 15 million people." Do the math! It seems obvious to me the tares within the church are part of the secret combination who have "gotten above us" (Either 8:23) meaning they infiltrated both the U.S. Government and the Mormon Church to the point that they control "the sole management of the government" and "choke the wheat" (D&C 86:1-7) i.e. silence the "watchmen" of Zion concerning the Islamization of the United States of America. Not only do they "choke the wheat" so that when the brethren speak they omit warning (sounding the alarm) of danger (Islamization of America=our demise in steps) but the grip around their throats are loosened enough for them to parrot the threats and agenda of the tares under threat of duress, viz. homosexuals allowed in Boy Scouts, homosexuals can now attend B.Y.U., "Same sex attraction is not a sin", the church endorses the Utah Compact, the anti-discrimination law in Utah against free-agency, the skin of blackness is not a curse, now members can partake of the "evil gift" (Moro 10:30)--Socialism, Syrian refugees are not invaders and immigration not an invasion, we should bomb Iraq, we must love and have compassion for our brother when he is hell-bent on killing you and your family, Islam is a religion of peace when in fact 60% of the Quran is a command for Muslins to kill all Jews and Christians, Trump should step-down. Etc.
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Shawn Henry wrote: March 19th, 2023, 1:20 pm The New Translation going forth in one volume with the BoM is a prophecy that will be fulfilled in the future when the "greater things' go forth and establish the truth of "the lesser things".
It's already been fulfilled.

https://scriptures.info/scriptures/nc

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HereWeGo wrote: March 19th, 2023, 8:27 pm
Shawn Henry wrote: March 19th, 2023, 1:20 pm The New Translation going forth in one volume with the BoM is a prophecy that will be fulfilled in the future when the "greater things' go forth and establish the truth of "the lesser things".
It's already been fulfilled.

https://scriptures.info/scriptures/nc
No, that's an unfulfillment!

The New Translation never was published with the BoM. They never went forth in one volume. How can you say that?

The saints were commanded in 1841 in section 124 to raise funds for its publishing which never happened. Emma kept the New Translation and they did not publish it with the BoM. Our church never even got the copyright.

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Shawn Henry wrote: March 19th, 2023, 9:29 pm
HereWeGo wrote: March 19th, 2023, 8:27 pm
Shawn Henry wrote: March 19th, 2023, 1:20 pm The New Translation going forth in one volume with the BoM is a prophecy that will be fulfilled in the future when the "greater things' go forth and establish the truth of "the lesser things".
It's already been fulfilled.

https://scriptures.info/scriptures/nc
No, that's an unfulfillment!

The New Translation never was published with the BoM. They never went forth in one volume. How can you say that?

The saints were commanded in 1841 in section 124 to raise funds for its publishing which never happened. Emma kept the New Translation and they did not publish it with the BoM. Our church never even got the copyright.
I'm just saying that the BoM and Joseph's New Testament have been published together in one book. I linked to the online place to read. I bought the leather bound version.

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