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Posted: **March 18th, 2023, 7:52 pm**

I’ve seen the Q antagonism around here, but with this I thought I’d pop over on some Q boards and see what they’re saying:

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It’s all part of the plan, apparently.

<shrug>

Posted: **March 18th, 2023, 9:21 pm**

endlessQuestions wrote: ↑March 18th, 2023, 6:19 pm
creator wrote: ↑March 18th, 2023, 6:10 pm It's not only the left hand path that observes the equinox and solstices.

It's also very significant to true Christianity.
Interesting. Do you have any sources on that, by chance? I would be very interested in digging a bit deeper.

I'll have more time later to give a proper response, but for now I'll say I think it's not a coincidence that Moroni's yearly visits to Joseph before he got the plates coincided with the fall equinox.

Posted: **March 18th, 2023, 10:03 pm**

Original_Intent wrote: ↑March 18th, 2023, 4:32 pm Watching a few videos this morning on the financial crisis, and on a couple of live broadcasts, people keep commenting "Ignore the shiny object on Tuesday!" but I can't get anyone to clarify what is going on.

I did a little digging and apparently Trump believes he will be arrested on Tuesday, and this is getting a lot of coverage. So I am guessing this is being done as a distraction to be the big story for the news cycle for a few days. I assume if true it is to distract from something going on in the banking world (or possibly Ukraine or other).

I am also hearing scuttlebutt that IF Trump is arrested, that many of his loyal followers have sworn to withdraw all money they can from the banks (which, if that pans out, maybe better get your money out on Monday?) and everything up to civil war breaking out as some feel this move would put the U.S. even more solidly in "banana republic" status.

Some claiming numerological significance, and I know the bad guys do like to do things on days and times when numbers line up
3/22/2023 = 322 / 223

322 Skull & Bones

223 The Synagogue of Sat*n
We'll see.

Former U.S. president Donald Trump said he expects to be arrested on Tuesday in a case brought by the Manhattan district attorney's office, and called on his supporters to protest, according to a post on Truth Social on Saturday.

Posted: **March 19th, 2023, 9:18 am**

tmac wrote: ↑March 18th, 2023, 7:06 pm Like I’ve said before,I think his 2024 run is probably as much a legal defense strategy as anything.

As popular as he is in some circles, there is still so, so much we don’t know about DT.

Yeah. Or about his enemies.

Posted: **March 19th, 2023, 9:19 am**

Original_Intent wrote: ↑March 18th, 2023, 6:38 pm I feel like an idiot, the Fed meets on Tuesday, but my belief is it is a two-day meeting so I wouldn't expect any announcement until Wednesday. But I wonder if that is what everyone is saying to ignore.

Who knows, maybe Biden will announce inflation has gone down to pre-covid levels, lol.

Posted: **March 19th, 2023, 10:03 am**

Original_Intent wrote: ↑March 18th, 2023, 4:59 pm Also, more "war drums" International Court issues warrant for Putin for war crimes. Odd coincidence this happens now, coincident with Trump maybe getting arrested. Going for all the marbles?

Putin is a criminal and should be arrested. But so also Biden and about every other world leader.

Posted: **March 19th, 2023, 10:07 am**

All the big-time criminals trying to arrest each other?

Posted: **March 19th, 2023, 11:43 am**

creator wrote: ↑March 18th, 2023, 9:21 pm
endlessQuestions wrote: ↑March 18th, 2023, 6:19 pm
creator wrote: ↑March 18th, 2023, 6:10 pm It's not only the left hand path that observes the equinox and solstices.

It's also very significant to true Christianity.
Interesting. Do you have any sources on that, by chance? I would be very interested in digging a bit deeper.
I'll have more time later to give a proper response, but for now I'll say I think it's not a coincidence that Moroni's yearly visits to Joseph before he got the plates coincided with the fall equinox.

Can you do that in a separate thread? This is a great topic that deserves its own space.

Posted: **March 19th, 2023, 12:40 pm**

creator wrote: ↑March 18th, 2023, 9:21 pm
endlessQuestions wrote: ↑March 18th, 2023, 6:19 pm
creator wrote: ↑March 18th, 2023, 6:10 pm It's not only the left hand path that observes the equinox and solstices.

It's also very significant to true Christianity.
Interesting. Do you have any sources on that, by chance? I would be very interested in digging a bit deeper.
I'll have more time later to give a proper response, but for now I'll say I think it's not a coincidence that Moroni's yearly visits to Joseph before he got the plates coincided with the fall equinox.

not that this is why,
but it could very well be, simply because the veil becomes thinner at that time of year - in Fall time.

Posted: **March 19th, 2023, 12:55 pm**

Original_Intent wrote: ↑March 18th, 2023, 4:59 pm Also, more "war drums" International Court issues warrant for Putin for war crimes. Odd coincidence this happens now, coincident with Trump maybe getting arrested. Going for all the marbles?

That court does not have authority to do that, I don't think...

Maybe I am behind the times.

Posted: **March 19th, 2023, 1:09 pm**

Being There wrote: ↑March 19th, 2023, 12:40 pm
creator wrote: ↑March 18th, 2023, 9:21 pm
endlessQuestions wrote: ↑March 18th, 2023, 6:19 pm

Interesting. Do you have any sources on that, by chance? I would be very interested in digging a bit deeper.
I'll have more time later to give a proper response, but for now I'll say I think it's not a coincidence that Moroni's yearly visits to Joseph before he got the plates coincided with the fall equinox.
not that this is why,
but it could very well be, simply because the veil becomes thinner at that time of year - in Fall time.

I was trying to tell some of those here back in the Fall,
that they had a complete misconception about Halloween "All Hallows Eve",
and what it's really about.

"Is Halloween and Hallows eve the same thing?

The All Saints' Day celebration was also called All-hallows or All-hallowmas
(from Middle English Alholowmesse meaning All Saints' Day)
and the night before it, the traditional night of Samhain in the Celtic religion,
began to be called All-Hallows Eve and, eventually, Halloween."

Halloween comes from an ancient pagan festival celebrated by Celtic people over 2,000 years ago called Samhain,
meaning "summer's end."
They believed the festival was a time when the dead could walk among the living.

Samhain and the Thin Veil
Oct 31, 2019
https://donegalsquare.com/samhain-and-the-thin-veil/

For many, October 31 is Halloween, a day and night of wearing costumes and trick-or-treating. Halloween in fact has its roots in the ancient Celtic world. Carving pumpkins (originally turnips), wearing costumes, and conjuring spirits of the departed are just a few of the activities that have origins in Samhain (SAH-win).

A Change of Seasons

Samhain is a Gaelic festival that marks the end of the harvest season and the beginning of the “darker half” of the year. It falls on October 31, beginning at sunset and continuing until sunset on November 1 (All Saint’s Day), approximately halfway between the autumn equinox and the winter solstice. Samhain is one of the four primary Celtic seasonal festivals, the others being Imbolc (February 1), Beltane (May 1) and Lughnasadh (August 1).

Ancient Pagan Origins

There is evidence that Samhain has been an important celebration since ancient times. The Mound of the Hostages, a neolithic passage tomb at the Hill of Tara, is aligned with the Samhain sunrise. Samhain is mentioned in some ancient Irish literature dating back to the 10th century. Many important events in Celtic mythology begin or occur near the time of Samhain.
Samhain bonfire Halloweens Celtic origins

If Beltane (May 1) marks the livestock being driven to their summer grazing fields, Samhain marks the time that the cattle were brought in from the fields and several slaughtered for the winter. At Beltane and Samhain, bonfires were lit which were believed to have protective and cleansing powers. At Samhain in particular, during the shortening, darker days the bonfire mimicked the sun, fueling growth and holding back the darkness.

The Thin Veil

At Samhain, it is believed that the veil between the physical world and the spiritual (or “other”) world is at its thinnest.
This means spirits (the Aos Si, also called fairies) can easily cross between realms and enter our world. The ancient Celts felt the need to please the spirits in order to ensure that their population and livestock did not die during the harsh winter. Food and drink were often left for the fairies, and occasionally an animal was sacrificed to appease the spirits.

Souls of the departed were believed to revisit their homes seeking hospitality. In some cases, a place setting of food or drink was put on the dining table in anticipation of the visit. Mumming, or wearing disguises were part of the festival and involved people going door to door in costume or disguise, reciting verse in exchange for food. Trick-or-treating, anyone?
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Why Is Veil Between The Worlds Thinner At Halloween?
https://www.higgypop.com/news/why-is-ve ... halloween/

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The thin veil of autumn
https://botanic-garden.bristol.ac.uk/20 ... of-autumn/

Posted: **March 19th, 2023, 1:11 pm**

creator wrote: ↑March 18th, 2023, 6:10 pm It's not only the left hand path that observes the equinox and solstices.

It's also very significant to true Christianity.

The feast of the Passover starts the night of a full moon after the March Equinox.

Posted: **March 19th, 2023, 1:19 pm**

Being There wrote: ↑March 19th, 2023, 1:09 pm
Being There wrote: ↑March 19th, 2023, 12:40 pm
creator wrote: ↑March 18th, 2023, 9:21 pm
I'll have more time later to give a proper response, but for now I'll say I think it's not a coincidence that Moroni's yearly visits to Joseph before he got the plates coincided with the fall equinox.
not that this is why,
but it could very well be, simply because the veil becomes thinner at that time of year - in Fall time.
I was trying to tell some of those here back in the Fall,
that they had a complete misconception about Halloween "All Hallows Eve",
and what it's really about.

"Is Halloween and Hallows eve the same thing?

The All Saints' Day celebration was also called All-hallows or All-hallowmas
(from Middle English Alholowmesse meaning All Saints' Day)
and the night before it, the traditional night of Samhain in the Celtic religion,
began to be called All-Hallows Eve and, eventually, Halloween."

Halloween comes from an ancient pagan festival celebrated by Celtic people over 2,000 years ago called Samhain,
meaning "summer's end."
They believed the festival was a time when the dead could walk among the living.

Samhain and the Thin Veil
Oct 31, 2019
https://donegalsquare.com/samhain-and-the-thin-veil/

For many, October 31 is Halloween, a day and night of wearing costumes and trick-or-treating. Halloween in fact has its roots in the ancient Celtic world. Carving pumpkins (originally turnips), wearing costumes, and conjuring spirits of the departed are just a few of the activities that have origins in Samhain (SAH-win).

A Change of Seasons

Samhain is a Gaelic festival that marks the end of the harvest season and the beginning of the “darker half” of the year. It falls on October 31, beginning at sunset and continuing until sunset on November 1 (All Saint’s Day), approximately halfway between the autumn equinox and the winter solstice. Samhain is one of the four primary Celtic seasonal festivals, the others being Imbolc (February 1), Beltane (May 1) and Lughnasadh (August 1).

Ancient Pagan Origins

There is evidence that Samhain has been an important celebration since ancient times. The Mound of the Hostages, a neolithic passage tomb at the Hill of Tara, is aligned with the Samhain sunrise. Samhain is mentioned in some ancient Irish literature dating back to the 10th century. Many important events in Celtic mythology begin or occur near the time of Samhain.
Samhain bonfire Halloweens Celtic origins

If Beltane (May 1) marks the livestock being driven to their summer grazing fields, Samhain marks the time that the cattle were brought in from the fields and several slaughtered for the winter. At Beltane and Samhain, bonfires were lit which were believed to have protective and cleansing powers. At Samhain in particular, during the shortening, darker days the bonfire mimicked the sun, fueling growth and holding back the darkness.

The Thin Veil

At Samhain, it is believed that the veil between the physical world and the spiritual (or “other”) world is at its thinnest.
This means spirits (the Aos Si, also called fairies) can easily cross between realms and enter our world. The ancient Celts felt the need to please the spirits in order to ensure that their population and livestock did not die during the harsh winter. Food and drink were often left for the fairies, and occasionally an animal was sacrificed to appease the spirits.

Souls of the departed were believed to revisit their homes seeking hospitality. In some cases, a place setting of food or drink was put on the dining table in anticipation of the visit. Mumming, or wearing disguises were part of the festival and involved people going door to door in costume or disguise, reciting verse in exchange for food. Trick-or-treating, anyone?
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Why Is Veil Between The Worlds Thinner At Halloween?
https://www.higgypop.com/news/why-is-ve ... halloween/

--------------------------------------
The thin veil of autumn
https://botanic-garden.bristol.ac.uk/20 ... of-autumn/

Same thing In Mexico - their "Day of the Dead"

What is the Day of the Dead celebration in Mexico?

The Day of the Dead (el Día de los Muertos), is a Mexican holiday
where families welcome back the souls of their deceased relatives for a brief reunion
that includes food, drink and celebration.
it's a time to honor ancestors and loved ones that have gone to the spirit world

Posted: **March 19th, 2023, 4:19 pm**

I never really get the idea of some great significance to any particular date.

I think the only thing remarkable about Tuesday will be equinox, which almost no one will realize.

I have found that there is significance to solstice (both, not really stopping, just appearing to stop, or stopping to appear more toward the north or south).

The only thing being the days get longer or shorter. But not enough for anyone to notice at once. And many don't seem to notice all year long.

Every day of the year is a fateful day. To someone.

How many people think history is anything from the past. It is not. History is significant events in the past which were significant to a significant number of people.

Not what you had for lunch yesterday.
dc

Posted: **March 19th, 2023, 4:38 pm**

David13 wrote: ↑March 19th, 2023, 4:19 pm I never really get the idea of some great significance to any particular date.

I think the only thing remarkable about Tuesday will be equinox, which almost no one will realize.

I have found that there is significance to solstice (both, not really stopping, just appearing to stop, or stopping to appear more toward the north or south).

The only thing being the days get longer or shorter. But not enough for anyone to notice at once. And many don't seem to notice all year long.

Every day of the year is a fateful day. To someone.

How many people think history is anything from the past. It is not. History is significant events in the past which were significant to a significant number of people.

Not what you had for lunch yesterday.
dc

That's a very strange definition of history. I'll have to think about that for awhile.

Posted: **March 19th, 2023, 5:15 pm**

endlessQuestions wrote: ↑March 18th, 2023, 7:22 pm Found this interesting, from another forum:

“Sure does seem like everything is funneling down to some sort of inflection point doesnt it? As Patrick Henry said to the Second Virginia Convention on March 23, 1775:

It is in vain, sir, to extenuate the matter. Gentlemen may cry, Peace, Peace but there is no peace. The war is actually begun! The next gale that sweeps from the north will bring to our ears the clash of resounding arms! Our brethren are already in the field! Why stand we here idle? What is it that gentlemen wish? What would they have? Is life so dear, or peace so sweet, as to be purchased at the price of chains and slavery? Forbid it, Almighty God! I know not what course others may take; but as for me, give me liberty or give me death!

And look at that date, March 23rd, 1775. A 248 year delta perhaps? /chuckle”

I think these guys were pretty smart. Maybe we should listen to them?

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Posted: **March 19th, 2023, 5:16 pm**

The Red Pill wrote: ↑March 18th, 2023, 4:52 pm Arresting Trump would be the biggest political miscalculation in history... Instead of a "dirty up" Trump outcome, it will guarantee his landslide victory in 2024.

EVERYONE is seeing this for what it is...an astounding abuse of power.

I agree, it does look like a orchestrated distraction.

Why is the bigger question.

It might guarantee him the nomination, but he will never win in November. The Democrats know that.

Posted: **March 19th, 2023, 5:20 pm**

Christianlee wrote: ↑March 19th, 2023, 5:16 pm
The Red Pill wrote: ↑March 18th, 2023, 4:52 pm Arresting Trump would be the biggest political miscalculation in history... Instead of a "dirty up" Trump outcome, it will guarantee his landslide victory in 2024.

EVERYONE is seeing this for what it is...an astounding abuse of power.

I agree, it does look like a orchestrated distraction.

Why is the bigger question.
It might guarantee him the nomination, but he will never win in November. The Democrats know that.

Would you say the chances are, I don’t know, about 9%?

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https://www.nytimes.com/newsgraphics/20 ... etter.html

Posted: **March 19th, 2023, 6:55 pm**

endlessQuestions wrote: ↑March 19th, 2023, 5:20 pm
Christianlee wrote: ↑March 19th, 2023, 5:16 pm
The Red Pill wrote: ↑March 18th, 2023, 4:52 pm Arresting Trump would be the biggest political miscalculation in history... Instead of a "dirty up" Trump outcome, it will guarantee his landslide victory in 2024.

EVERYONE is seeing this for what it is...an astounding abuse of power.

I agree, it does look like a orchestrated distraction.

Why is the bigger question.
It might guarantee him the nomination, but he will never win in November. The Democrats know that.
Would you say the chances are, I don’t know, about 9%?

C88EC2FB-6B68-418D-9C07-3733219F859B.jpeg

https://www.nytimes.com/newsgraphics/20 ... etter.html

The Dems will make sure that doesn’t happen again just like they did in 2020.

Posted: **March 19th, 2023, 7:05 pm**

endlessQuestions wrote: ↑March 19th, 2023, 4:38 pm
David13 wrote: ↑March 19th, 2023, 4:19 pm I never really get the idea of some great significance to any particular date.

I think the only thing remarkable about Tuesday will be equinox, which almost no one will realize.

I have found that there is significance to solstice (both, not really stopping, just appearing to stop, or stopping to appear more toward the north or south).

The only thing being the days get longer or shorter. But not enough for anyone to notice at once. And many don't seem to notice all year long.

Every day of the year is a fateful day. To someone.

How many people think history is anything from the past. It is not. History is significant events in the past which were significant to a significant number of people.

Not what you had for lunch yesterday.
dc
That's a very strange definition of history. I'll have to think about that for awhile.

Strange definition???

Yeah, I guess it's strange to the average joe on the street, who thinks history is what he had for lunch.
dc

Posted: **March 19th, 2023, 7:34 pm**

Sunain wrote: ↑March 18th, 2023, 6:46 pm Can someone explain TLDR why he's being indicted? None of the main stream media seems to have a legitimate answer? Is this in regards to January 6th?

They're indicting him for fraud because he claimed the payment to his attorney was legal fees when it was a reimbursement for the hush money paid to stormy daniels

Posted: **March 19th, 2023, 9:25 pm**

endlessQuestions wrote: ↑March 18th, 2023, 6:19 pm
creator wrote: ↑March 18th, 2023, 6:10 pm It's not only the left hand path that observes the equinox and solstices.

It's also very significant to true Christianity.
Interesting. Do you have any sources on that, by chance? I would be very interested in digging a bit deeper.

The Significance of the Equinox (and Solstice) for Christians.

Posted: **March 20th, 2023, 10:15 am**

Equinox and solstice is significant to almost everyone, if they realize it.

It has significance to pagans, Wiccans, Satanists, etc.

I talk to people about both, and they are unconcerned. They just want to know when it will get warmer. But they are from South America. So perhaps to them things are just screwed up already.

But I think anyone can place significance on any particular day.

Weather is always significant to me. I'm always studying weather before I do anything. It's from sailing and flying, I guess. And even just going into the mountains. But equinox and solstice may turn weather either way.

dc

Posted: **March 20th, 2023, 10:16 am**

creator wrote: ↑March 19th, 2023, 9:25 pm
endlessQuestions wrote: ↑March 18th, 2023, 6:19 pm
creator wrote: ↑March 18th, 2023, 6:10 pm It's not only the left hand path that observes the equinox and solstices.

It's also very significant to true Christianity.
Interesting. Do you have any sources on that, by chance? I would be very interested in digging a bit deeper.
The Significance of the Equinox (and Solstice) for Christians.

Did I get kicked out of a forum? "You are not authorised to read this forum."

At least authorised is spelled correctly.

Posted: **March 20th, 2023, 10:21 am**

BroJones wrote: ↑March 18th, 2023, 6:44 pm
endlessQuestions wrote: ↑March 18th, 2023, 6:02 pm 3C2A862A-D417-4524-9FCE-9FDA6BFB18B8.jpeg

Left hand path followers worship these days.

Today and tomorrow are red letter days on the Pratt calendar models.

Jupiter and Venus just had a tete a tete. The war between chaos and order has begun in earnest?
This explanation makes perfect sense for the easons... Unless of course the Earth is actually flat with the sun going around the Earth.. But then How to account for Solstice and the seasons?

It's not the roundness of the earth that causes the seasons, is it? It's the tilt of the axis of the earth. Isn't it?

And that tile is changing, isn't it?

Wintertime in the northern hemisphere coincides with the tilt away from the sun, less sun, and colder weather, due to the lesser amount of sun exposure, doesn't it?

And the opposite in the southern hemisphere, no?
dc

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