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Funny, I was told the concept of 15 Minute Cities itself was a conspiracy theory not so long ago. Not many people have even heard of this concept.

I don’t see a church listed.

I think I'm gonna wanna be or live as far away from those things as possible... Especially after seeing 'lock downs/covid crap' that was done in the cities.
Living in something like that is straight up living in the belly of the beast.

I shared this on my Facebook page back in January: https://www.independent.co.uk/climate-c ... 01533.html

I do think our "settlement patterns" kind of suck.

Take Utah Valley for instance - probably one of the better agricultural lands in Utah, and we totally filled it with homes and yards (yes there are some orchards and other farm-ish scattered about.) I realize pop centers need water, but why do we not populate in areas that are pretty much good for little else and leave the fertile areas to. I don't know, grow food? And yeah this sounds very central planner-ish, and I hate central planning, but dang! I hate to see all that potential farmland under housing.

It's curious how this poll contradicts some of the Fourth Industrial Revolution aims. But then again so does some of the carbon footprint stuff, since putting everything online creates demand for electricity.

Backlash in Europe

https://www.yahoo.com/news/backlash-gro ... 12294.html

marc wrote: ↑March 6th, 2023, 5:40 pm I shared this on my Facebook page back in January: https://www.independent.co.uk/climate-c ... 01533.html

They are using drought as an excuse for 15 minute cities. They act as if drought is a permanent condition. And how many churches will be allowed in this 15 minute city? Don’t ban cars?

Is this related to this?:

https://rumble.com/v2bsdhi-utah-train-d ... +Utah&ep=2

Niemand wrote: ↑March 6th, 2023, 4:47 pm Funny, I was told the concept of 15 Minute Cities itself was a conspiracy theory not so long ago. Not many people have even heard of this concept.

We've got them in Utah already. It's part of Agenda 21 / Agenda 2030.

Although, officially, they say the new one (where the State prison was) will be the first 15 minute city in Utah >

Also, if you are like 3/4 of Americans that believe it’s “better for the environment if houses are built farther apart”, apparently you're "very wrong". The narrative they are pushing is that "City living is far more sustainable than suburban life".

that list is a very sad commentary on society, very sad indeed

I think the tragedy is that this perverts a good idea and hides a bad idea behind it (like a lot of globalism). It is good to have basic amenities nearby in my view, but not in the same way a prison does, or to he prevented frok journeying further.

In my experience American towns DO sprawl too much, Aussie towns even more, but I think you can see that I'm not approving of the notion of imprisoning people in a small area.

This is essentially a reprise of feudalism where peasants were tied to a small bit of land by the nobility. We've been here before.

This 4 minute video shows us the wonders of a 15-minute community:

creator wrote: ↑March 21st, 2023, 4:17 pm This 4 minute video shows us the wonders of a 15-minute community:

Ha ha, brilliant video!!

Lots of dystopian books about walled cities--to keep the monsters out, and the people in.

JohnnyL wrote: ↑March 21st, 2023, 6:46 pm Lots of dystopian books about walled cities--to keep the monsters out, and the people in.

There is a children's book by John Christopher in which most people live in the city, but a handful live in the country like aristocrats, hunting foxes and living a traditional life. I used to think it was farfetched. I'm not convinced anymore.