What if Jesus Christ himself had Investments?
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edgoble123
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What if Jesus Christ himself had Investments?
What if Jesus Christ were on the earth himself, and there was no mistaking it was him, and he required you to pay tithing to him directly, but he, in his infinite wisdom, saw fit to put it in investments in the market and in various real estate holdings, and on a big cattle ranch in Florida? Would you still pay it? Would you pay him 10% of your income off of your gross if he directly required it, and not worry about some guy that told you how to do it back in the 19th Century?
Does this change the equation a bit for some of you?
What if the way it is done right now is Jesus Christ's will, but you are refusing to have faith merely because it is done by flawed intermediaries that didn't get enough good advice from enough lawfirms?
Does this change the equation a bit for some of you?
What if the way it is done right now is Jesus Christ's will, but you are refusing to have faith merely because it is done by flawed intermediaries that didn't get enough good advice from enough lawfirms?
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Re: What if Jesus Christ himself had Investments?
The cattle ranch and church real estate doesn't seem like a big deal. If Jesus invested in Pfizer, google, etc. I would have to think about that one more.
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To me it seems that the whole concept of money itself will be abolished and displaced with some heavenly kind of economy. Like instead of earthly currency, some kind of spiritual means-of-interchange (the thing money is counterfeiting).
Revelation 18
10 Alas, alas, that great city Babylon, that mighty city! for in one hour is thy judgment come.
11 And the merchants of the earth shall weep and mourn over her; for no man buyeth their merchandise any more...
All money and earthly investments will be obsolete outside of hard, self-serving assets.
Revelation 18
10 Alas, alas, that great city Babylon, that mighty city! for in one hour is thy judgment come.
11 And the merchants of the earth shall weep and mourn over her; for no man buyeth their merchandise any more...
All money and earthly investments will be obsolete outside of hard, self-serving assets.
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whatever it is, ive been contemplating it for years now and I can't fathom it. It would have something to do with heavenly`mother/divine feminine, and there would be some aspect of it that would be internal to the body ("the kingdom of God is within you"), which is maybe why the whole moneychangers-in-the-temple thing was so thoroughly blasphemous, and how why I think a key element of a future beast system may likely have something to do with allowing the proverbial 'moneychangers' so to speak into one's own body/temple, and how this is perhaps an irredeemably profane simulacra of how the heavenly economy and spiritual flow-of-interchange was actually meant to work per God's design.
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Re: What if Jesus Christ himself had Investments?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dtTo63w8Bwcedgoble123 wrote: ↑March 3rd, 2023, 5:45 pm What if Jesus Christ were on the earth himself, and there was no mistaking it was him, and he required you to pay tithing to him directly, but he, in his infinite wisdom, saw fit to put it in investments in the market and in various real estate holdings, and on a big cattle ranch in Florida? Would you still pay it? Would you pay him 10% of your income off of your gross if he directly required it, and not worry about some guy that told you how to do it back in the 19th Century?
Does this change the equation a bit for some of you?
What if the way it is done right now is Jesus Christ's will, but you are refusing to have faith merely because it is done by flawed intermediaries that didn't get enough good advice from enough lawfirms?
"At the end of the day the decisions, the main decisions, are made by presiding councils according to the Spirit of Revelation."
The problem is that those "flawed intermediaries" took full responsibility when they claimed they had revelation but are now trying to pass the buck to bad legal advice. Can't have it both ways.
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Oh it’s better than that.p8riot wrote: ↑March 3rd, 2023, 6:32 pmhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dtTo63w8Bwcedgoble123 wrote: ↑March 3rd, 2023, 5:45 pm What if Jesus Christ were on the earth himself, and there was no mistaking it was him, and he required you to pay tithing to him directly, but he, in his infinite wisdom, saw fit to put it in investments in the market and in various real estate holdings, and on a big cattle ranch in Florida? Would you still pay it? Would you pay him 10% of your income off of your gross if he directly required it, and not worry about some guy that told you how to do it back in the 19th Century?
Does this change the equation a bit for some of you?
What if the way it is done right now is Jesus Christ's will, but you are refusing to have faith merely because it is done by flawed intermediaries that didn't get enough good advice from enough lawfirms?
"At the end of the day the decisions, the main decisions, are made by presiding councils according to the Spirit of Revelation."
The problem is that those "flawed intermediaries" took full responsibility when they claimed they had revelation but are now trying to pass the buck to bad legal advice. Can't have it both ways.
It’s literally the Pharisees blaming the Scribes.
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As Heber C. Kimball prophesied… “a spirit of speculation will take hold of the Saints, and the result will be financial bondage”
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I would re-evaluate who I'm followingedgoble123 wrote: ↑March 3rd, 2023, 5:45 pm What if Jesus Christ were on the earth himself, and there was no mistaking it was him, and he required you to pay tithing to him directly, but he, in his infinite wisdom, saw fit to put it in investments in the market and in various real estate holdings, and on a big cattle ranch in Florida? Would you still pay it? Would you pay him 10% of your income off of your gross if he directly required it, and not worry about some guy that told you how to do it back in the 19th Century?
Does this change the equation a bit for some of you?
What if the way it is done right now is Jesus Christ's will, but you are refusing to have faith merely because it is done by flawed intermediaries that didn't get enough good advice from enough lawfirms?
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Re: What if Jesus Christ himself had Investments?
Well, I think you are getting many answers here.edgoble123 wrote: ↑March 3rd, 2023, 5:45 pm What if Jesus Christ were on the earth himself, and there was no mistaking it was him, and he required you to pay tithing to him directly, but he, in his infinite wisdom, saw fit to put it in investments in the market and in various real estate holdings, and on a big cattle ranch in Florida? Would you still pay it? Would you pay him 10% of your income off of your gross if he directly required it, and not worry about some guy that told you how to do it back in the 19th Century?
Does this change the equation a bit for some of you?
What if the way it is done right now is Jesus Christ's will, but you are refusing to have faith merely because it is done by flawed intermediaries that didn't get enough good advice from enough lawfirms?
The majority of this forum would call him a false Messiah. They already made up their decision.
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Re: What if Jesus Christ himself had Investments?
It seems odd to me that you are trying to make up some imaginary scenario to prove your current belief system to be correct. Why not rely on what actually IS written in scripture to prove your current belief system to be true or false?edgoble123 wrote: ↑March 3rd, 2023, 5:45 pm What if Jesus Christ were on the earth himself, and there was no mistaking it was him, and he required you to pay tithing to him directly, but he, in his infinite wisdom, saw fit to put it in investments in the market and in various real estate holdings, and on a big cattle ranch in Florida? Would you still pay it? Would you pay him 10% of your income off of your gross if he directly required it, and not worry about some guy that told you how to do it back in the 19th Century?
Does this change the equation a bit for some of you?
What if the way it is done right now is Jesus Christ's will, but you are refusing to have faith merely because it is done by flawed intermediaries that didn't get enough good advice from enough lawfirms?
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It is amazing to what lengths an apologist will go to defend his idols.
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Are the children not free?edgoble123 wrote: ↑March 3rd, 2023, 5:45 pm What if Jesus Christ were on the earth himself, and there was no mistaking it was him, and he required you to pay tithing to him directly, but he, in his infinite wisdom, saw fit to put it in investments in the market and in various real estate holdings, and on a big cattle ranch in Florida? Would you still pay it? Would you pay him 10% of your income off of your gross if he directly required it, and not worry about some guy that told you how to do it back in the 19th Century?
Does this change the equation a bit for some of you?
What if the way it is done right now is Jesus Christ's will, but you are refusing to have faith merely because it is done by flawed intermediaries that didn't get enough good advice from enough lawfirms?
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Re: What if Jesus Christ himself had Investments?
It isn't the investing that is wrong. See parable of the talents. It is the financing of satanic rulers, riots, racism, and turmoil. Not to mention satan's counterfeit immune system of mRNA. The entire foundation of the evil jab is to prove God made a mistake in the immune system. Everyone with a brain knows that a healthy immune system just laughs at covid. Investing even a single penny in the jab is attempting to help satan overthrow the Almighty God. Let's not forget the people that freeze to death, even in Utah, because the church hates the homeless for not paying tithing. The Bishops are under strict orders to spit in the face of any homeless women with children. One has to look pretty far to find an organization more evil than the church.edgoble123 wrote: ↑March 3rd, 2023, 5:45 pm What if Jesus Christ were on the earth himself, and there was no mistaking it was him, and he required you to pay tithing to him directly, but he, in his infinite wisdom, saw fit to put it in investments in the market and in various real estate holdings, and on a big cattle ranch in Florida? Would you still pay it? Would you pay him 10% of your income off of your gross if he directly required it, and not worry about some guy that told you how to do it back in the 19th Century?
Does this change the equation a bit for some of you?
What if the way it is done right now is Jesus Christ's will, but you are refusing to have faith merely because it is done by flawed intermediaries that didn't get enough good advice from enough lawfirms?
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Re: What if Jesus Christ himself had Investments?
What if Satan wanted you to have your agency, and he was a righteous son of God?
We can play in this sandbox of hypotheticals all day long.
We can play in this sandbox of hypotheticals all day long.
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Re: What if Jesus Christ himself had Investments?
I remember when Abraham was financing Melchizedek's wars against his neighbors through the payment of tithing...
Of course, back then, tithing was in kind, but no doubt it was used to feed the soldiers as well as the livestock...
That seems a LOT more controversial than simply saving some of the tithing for a rainy day.
My gripe against the Church is NOT the fact that they were saving this tithing for a rainy day. My main gripe is the fact that they never told anyone about this, due to a fear that people would simply stop paying once the truth was let out of the bag. This shows that the Church does NOT trust the membership to do the right thing and that they have to be told what to do.
Joseph Smith clearly had a different approach. Teach the people, and let the people govern themselves. Even my local leaders when cornered with a tough question, would say "le dejo a tu criterio" which means, I'll let you decide the criteria.
I have come to grips that with the current general leadership of the Church, are ironically be in a place where they said ten years back where they did not want to be. Not want to so much as row the boat much less rock it, to paraphrase Elder Holland. A lot of rocking has to take place before the Second Coming and many people will be thrown off. Unless there is a course correction, I don't see that coming from the current leadership.
It would be nice to have a Samuel in our day set things straight.
Of course, back then, tithing was in kind, but no doubt it was used to feed the soldiers as well as the livestock...
That seems a LOT more controversial than simply saving some of the tithing for a rainy day.
My gripe against the Church is NOT the fact that they were saving this tithing for a rainy day. My main gripe is the fact that they never told anyone about this, due to a fear that people would simply stop paying once the truth was let out of the bag. This shows that the Church does NOT trust the membership to do the right thing and that they have to be told what to do.
Joseph Smith clearly had a different approach. Teach the people, and let the people govern themselves. Even my local leaders when cornered with a tough question, would say "le dejo a tu criterio" which means, I'll let you decide the criteria.
I have come to grips that with the current general leadership of the Church, are ironically be in a place where they said ten years back where they did not want to be. Not want to so much as row the boat much less rock it, to paraphrase Elder Holland. A lot of rocking has to take place before the Second Coming and many people will be thrown off. Unless there is a course correction, I don't see that coming from the current leadership.
It would be nice to have a Samuel in our day set things straight.
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I look to these men in Salt Lake, these church executives, and I ask, what do they seem to be?
Men of God?
Or men of money?
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Men of God?
Or men of money?
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I wouldn't believe that was him. Even if it was, I would do the right thing. I don't know why he tests me now. Maybe it's another test? Honestly, if investments were all the church did, there would be no issue.edgoble123 wrote: ↑March 3rd, 2023, 5:45 pm What if Jesus Christ were on the earth himself, and there was no mistaking it was him, and he required you to pay tithing to him directly, but he, in his infinite wisdom, saw fit to put it in investments in the market and in various real estate holdings, and on a big cattle ranch in Florida? Would you still pay it? Would you pay him 10% of your income off of your gross if he directly required it, and not worry about some guy that told you how to do it back in the 19th Century?
Does this change the equation a bit for some of you?
What if the way it is done right now is Jesus Christ's will, but you are refusing to have faith merely because it is done by flawed intermediaries that didn't get enough good advice from enough lawfirms?
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Hmmmm…interesting!
Well the Jesus Christ that I know would NOT invest in a death shot company that used tissue of aborted fetuses and then tell everyone that it was safe and effective all while knowing it was going to kill or seriously hurt many who took it.
The Jesus that I know would also not keep terrible secrets and belong to satanic secret societies.
So IMO, it’s a moot point because if it happened, it would not be from the Jesus that I know.
Well the Jesus Christ that I know would NOT invest in a death shot company that used tissue of aborted fetuses and then tell everyone that it was safe and effective all while knowing it was going to kill or seriously hurt many who took it.
The Jesus that I know would also not keep terrible secrets and belong to satanic secret societies.
So IMO, it’s a moot point because if it happened, it would not be from the Jesus that I know.
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