Drag Queen Story hour protected by the Church

[Sunain]

I know this Stake President personally. This statement came from church headquarters and he was asked to put his name on the statement. He is well loved by his stake. You are quoting from the Bible, but then go after his Facebook to try and cause fear to him and his family. Please explain how that is Christ like?

Woah. Back the truck up. The statement is one of the worst statements I've ever seen an official representative of the church give to the press. It is borderline protective of pedophelia. This stake president needed to think things over before attaching his name to a statement like this if it indeed was provided by church HQ's PR department. The response from members here and worldwide to the statement is appropriate. The Lord would not make a statement like that nor should His representatives here on earth either. Hopefully this response will make this Stake President think twice from now on instead of being a yes man. The news article in the opening post said 4 different Christian churches had members attend this peaceful protest. Christ's sternest warning words came when talking about little children.

[Reluctant Watchman]

Have you met with your local leaders to discuss your concerns?

Tried that. Didn’t go well. Simply asked my SP if the shot was “safe and effective” after showing a video that it is killing people. I was promptly told to repent for calling the brethren “liars and deceivers.”

Then told to repent again for encouraging people not to get jabbed.

There’s no point in talking to a church leader when you voice an opinion contrary to the HQ/SLC/FP.

[Christianlee]

There is the possibility the Q15 have simply lost control of the Church which seems to have been completely infiltrated by Leftist globalists at this point. The PR Dept. may have its own diabolical agenda. I wonder how many church employees are in the closet LGBT?

[Being There]

Looks like he was getting too much heat. The post is now removed. Coward.

Either that, or he was told to remove because he spoke out of turn.
I suspect Church HQ would have preferred him to have kept his mouth shut.

He removed it on his own. No way the Church moves that fast that in a matter of a couple of hours after someone finds his Facebook page to tell him to remove it.

Just not possible and if it is, then the are some people at church HQ keeping tight tabs on this place.

I know this Stake President personally. This statement came from church headquarters and he was asked to put his name on the statement. He is well loved by his stake. You are quoting from the Bible, but then go after his Facebook to try and cause fear to him and his family. Please explain how that is Christ like?

so you came on this forum today, just to defend the church and tell us this ?
You must be a church employee.

[Being There]

I think the Stake President should be picketed by the members!

Looks like he was getting too much heat. The post is now removed. Coward.

Either that, or he was told to remove because he spoke out of turn.
I suspect Church HQ would have preferred him to have kept his mouth shut.

He removed it on his own. No way the Church moves that fast that in a matter of a couple of hours after someone finds his Facebook page to tell him to remove it.

Just not possible and if it is, then the are some people at church HQ keeping tight tabs on this place.

speaking of - Badgerone45 ?

[Christianlee]

Either that, or he was told to remove because he spoke out of turn.
I suspect Church HQ would have preferred him to have kept his mouth shut.

He removed it on his own. No way the Church moves that fast that in a matter of a couple of hours after someone finds his Facebook page to tell him to remove it.

Just not possible and if it is, then the are some people at church HQ keeping tight tabs on this place.

I know this Stake President personally. This statement came from church headquarters and he was asked to put his name on the statement. He is well loved by his stake. You are quoting from the Bible, but then go after his Facebook to try and cause fear to him and his family. Please explain how that is Christ like?

so you came on this forum today, just to defend the church and tell us this ?
You must be a church employee.

A Deep Church Leftist?

[Reluctant Watchman]

I still have a hard time believing the church would make a SP put out a statement like that. If what B145 said is correct, and this came from church HQ… by all means, heed my words in the first comment I made. The ship is sinking.

[Being There]

https://www.idahostatejournal.com/freea ... 8bf88.html

To hell with these arseholes.

"The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints did not sanction or support these protests. Our faith does not support divisive or hateful behavior toward our brothers and sisters. We strive to follow the example of Jesus Christ to love one another,” said Cameron D. Brower, Chubbuck Idaho Stake president and the local representative for The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, in Tuesday's statement."

and as I've said before -

It's always the time to take a stand and stand up for what is true - and right.

but you won't see the church do it, because they're a big part of Babylon
and follow and serve not Christ - but the leaders of this World that serve satan.

"He who passively accepts evil is as much involved in it as he who helps to perpetrate it.
He who accepts evil without protesting against it is really cooperating with it."
Martin Luther King, Jr.

the church is a perfect example of this - they follow it to a tee.

[h_p]

I wasn’t there, so I cannot say if it was divisive or not. Were you in attendance? Church HQ must’ve felt it was divisive from the reports they received. But once again this is also an assumption.

Was Pres. Brower there? Or were he and his puppet masters also assuming?

I think it's safe to say that if there was even a single disruptive action, or even a word, from the protestors, that would have made it into the news article. The fact that they couldn't describe anything they did outside of them sitting there in disagreement with the event is a pretty safe bet that they were all perfectly well-behaved.

[Mamabear]

https://www.idahostatejournal.com/freea ... 8bf88.html

To hell with these arseholes.

"The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints did not sanction or support these protests. Our faith does not support divisive or hateful behavior toward our brothers and sisters. We strive to follow the example of Jesus Christ to love one another,” said Cameron D. Brower, Chubbuck Idaho Stake president and the local representative for The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, in Tuesday's statement."

Says the church that hides child abuse and molesters. No surprise there.

[silverado]

I am a close friend of president brower. I don’t believe anyone from his stake was in attendance. There were those in attendance that claimed to be officially representing the church, and that was not a true statement. President Brower was asked by church HQ to issue that statement as he has been asked to be the PR rep for this area. There have been many assumptions made in this group without having all of the facts. I believe not one person in this group would want assumptions and judgments made against them without having all the facts.

Please present the facts then, show where the assumptions are wrong. Did he say what he was quoted as saying or not? If not, what did he really say? Was the protest peaceful or not? Were people protesting a drag queen story hour for children or not?

I guess you will need to contact church HQ if you want to know why they issued this statement. Maybe you could start with your own local Stake President with your concerns.

Your answer did not give any facts or explain how the assumptions expressed here were wrong. I guess, because you don't have any facts? Or the assumptions are not wrong?

[Badgerone45]

He removed it on his own. No way the Church moves that fast that in a matter of a couple of hours after someone finds his Facebook page to tell him to remove it.

Just not possible and if it is, then the are some people at church HQ keeping tight tabs on this place.

I know this Stake President personally. This statement came from church headquarters and he was asked to put his name on the statement. He is well loved by his stake. You are quoting from the Bible, but then go after his Facebook to try and cause fear to him and his family. Please explain how that is Christ like?

so you came on this forum today, just to defend the church and tell us this ?
You must be a church employee.

A Deep Church Leftist?

Once again you are all making assumptions. If you want to know the truth, I’m a right wing conspiracy theorist, unvaccinated, and thinks the government is extremely corrupt. I came on to defend a good friend.

[Sunain]

Once again you are all making assumptions. If you want to know the truth, I’m a right wing conspiracy theorist, unvaccinated, and thinks the government is extremely corrupt. I came on to defend a good friend.

Unfortunately trying to defend the statement by this stake president is a disservice to the faithful members of the church that are trying to stand up for truth and righteousness.

[Badgerone45]

That’s your opinion and I respect that. But you also don’t know this man on a personal level. I guarantee you would change your mind.

[Badgerone45]

Once again you are all making assumptions. If you want to know the truth, I’m a right wing conspiracy theorist, unvaccinated, and thinks the government is extremely corrupt. I came on to defend a good friend.

Unfortunately trying to defend the statement by this stake president is a disservice to the faithful members of the church that are trying to stand up for truth and righteousness.

And once again, it was not his statement. It came from church HQ.

[Serragon]

I know this Stake President personally. This statement came from church headquarters and he was asked to put his name on the statement. He is well loved by his stake. You are quoting from the Bible, but then go after his Facebook to try and cause fear to him and his family. Please explain how that is Christ like?

so you came on this forum today, just to defend the church and tell us this ?
You must be a church employee.

A Deep Church Leftist?

Once again you are all making assumptions. If you want to know the truth, I’m a right wing conspiracy theorist, unvaccinated, and thinks the government is extremely corrupt. I came on to defend a good friend.

I think it admirable to defend a friend, and it speaks highly of your character.

But very little of this is assumption or speculation. There is no account of the protest being divisive or hateful by anyone. There is no account of it being non-peaceful by anyone. Your friend, whether they be his words or not, stated that the people protesting the grooming occurring in their community was both divisive and hateful.

This cannot be defended unless we are to believe that Christianity now requires us to allow perverted and deviant behavior to occur in our midst without saying or doing anything that might hurt the feelings of the deviants. This definition of love, which puts the feelings of the sinner above all else, is not Christian as it cannot lead to repentance or alignment with Christ.

So what your friend has done in his office as a Melchezidek Priesthood holder and Stake president, is to chastise those who were acting under true Christian principles while elevating a worship of the natural man as true Christianity. Again, I appreciate your defense of your friend, but in this case he chose the great and spacious building over the tree of Life. As I said earlier, I hope he understands his error and will learn something from this situation.

[Korsgaard46]

Once again you are all making assumptions. If you want to know the truth, I’m a right wing conspiracy theorist, unvaccinated, and thinks the government is extremely corrupt. I came on to defend a good friend.

You came on here to defend a man who defended pedophiles over people of Christ. These people your friend is defending target and prey on children, to sexualize them for their own fantasies. A group of people in the community came to put an end to it and your friend chose the side of the pedophiles. That's all there is to it, you can put your spin of "go talk to your leader" but the end of the day your friend stood for pedophilia.

[Lizzy60]

That’s your opinion and I respect that. But you also don’t know this man on a personal level. I guarantee you would change your mind.

If he is the most wonderful man in the world, this statement is the turd in the chocolate brownie he wants us to enjoy. I would be appalled if any of my dear friends defended the drag queens over small children. I would not defend their statement.

[Reluctant Watchman]

I’m trying to think what’s been going through this SPs head the past few days… not to mention the past few hours.

[Badgerone45]

That’s your opinion and I respect that. But you also don’t know this man on a personal level. I guarantee you would change your mind.

If he is the most wonderful man in the world, this statement is the turd in the chocolate brownie he wants us to enjoy. I would be appalled if any of my dear friends defended the drag queens over small children. I would not defend their statement.

Where did he state he supported drag queens? I didn’t see that statement.

[Badgerone45]

That’s your opinion and I respect that. But you also don’t know this man on a personal level. I guarantee you would change your mind.

If he is the most wonderful man in the world, this statement is the turd in the chocolate brownie he wants us to enjoy. I would be appalled if any of my dear friends defended the drag queens over small children. I would not defend their statement.

I also believe you were the one that posted the link to his personal Facebook page, but didn’t see where you had tried to discuss your concerns with him. Sorry if I’m mistaken. Maybe you use another name on Facebook.

[TwochurchesOnly]

Once again you are all making assumptions. If you want to know the truth, I’m a right wing conspiracy theorist, unvaccinated, and thinks the government is extremely corrupt. I came on to defend a good friend.

Unfortunately trying to defend the statement by this stake president is a disservice to the faithful members of the church that are trying to stand up for truth and righteousness.

And once again, it was not his statement. It came from church HQ.

He put his name on the statement- by his declaration

[LDS Physician]

Once again you are all making assumptions. If you want to know the truth, I’m a right wing conspiracy theorist, unvaccinated, and thinks the government is extremely corrupt. I came on to defend a good friend.

Unfortunately trying to defend the statement by this stake president is a disservice to the faithful members of the church that are trying to stand up for truth and righteousness.

And once again, it was not his statement. It came from church HQ.

Ever consider what you’re doing in a church who’s leaders pushed the vaccines on their followers, saying it’s “safe and effective “ a “godsend “, the “only way” through this pandemic and to “trust” our government health officials… the same church that just made your wonderful friend state something that by your own admission wasn’t his own statement?

You said yourself you’re a right-wing, anti-vaccine conservative. Is the church you cling to getting it right?

[Badgerone45]

Once again you are all making assumptions. If you want to know the truth, I’m a right wing conspiracy theorist, unvaccinated, and thinks the government is extremely corrupt. I came on to defend a good friend.

Unfortunately trying to defend the statement by this stake president is a disservice to the faithful members of the church that are trying to stand up for truth and righteousness.

And once again, it was not his statement. It came from church HQ.

Ever consider what you’re doing in a church who’s leaders pushed the vaccines on their followers, saying it’s “safe and effective “ a “godsend “, the “only way” through this pandemic and to “trust” our government health officials… the same church that just made your wonderful friend state something that by your own admission wasn’t his own statement?

You said yourself you’re a right-wing, anti-vaccine conservative. Is the church you cling to getting it right?

They also said to consult your personal physician. My physician did not believe in it. I also know these are humans who can make mistakes. Prophets through the ages, starting with the old testament have made mistakes.

[PressingForward]

I am a close friend of president brower. I don’t believe anyone from his stake was in attendance. There were those in attendance that claimed to be officially representing the church, and that was not a true statement. President Brower was asked by church HQ to issue that statement as he has been asked to be the PR rep for this area. There have been many assumptions made in this group without having all of the facts. I believe not one person in this group would want assumptions and judgments made against them without having all the facts.

This Stake President stood up and supported exposing young children to Drag Queens, reading perverted material. Stated that the Church supports it. I want the man to be famous! Christ himself threw the money changers out of the temple! The Church now invites Gay Men Choirs to perform on temple grounds………….think about that.
How can an Elder of Israel stand for either?…….answer that. The SP is not an honorable man. Sad state we are witnessing with the Church currently, heart breaking there are disgusting men like this that are leaders……