An Apron?

[LDS Physician]

Who is the only person in the temple video wearing an apron?

What does he say that it represents?

Who commands Adam and Eve to make aprons of fig leaves?

Why are we wearing aprons in the temple?

Should we really be wearing aprons which represent Satanic priesthood?


I'm trying to understand why we obey him and don aprons at his suggestion ...

[Robin Hood]

Who is the only person in the temple video wearing an apron?

What does he say that it represents?

Who commands Adam and Eve to make aprons of fig leaves?

Why are we wearing aprons in the temple?

Should we really be wearing aprons which represent Satanic priesthood?


I'm trying to understand why we obey him and don aprons at his suggestion ...

They don't represent a satanic priesthood. It's made clear as to what they represent.
Remember, Lucifer is the great counterfeiter.
Have you been listening to Pastor Steven Anderson of Faithful Word Baptist Church, Tempe, Arizona by any chance?

[LDS Physician]

Who is the only person in the temple video wearing an apron?

What does he say that it represents?

Who commands Adam and Eve to make aprons of fig leaves?

Why are we wearing aprons in the temple?

Should we really be wearing aprons which represent Satanic priesthood?


I'm trying to understand why we obey him and don aprons at his suggestion ...

They don't represent a satanic priesthood. It's made clear as to what they represent.
Remember, Lucifer is the great counterfeiter.

Since they represent "my power and priesthoods" and "my" = Satan, they represent Satanic power and priesthoods? Kind of an a=b and b=c so a=c. Right?

[Robin Hood]

Who is the only person in the temple video wearing an apron?

What does he say that it represents?

Who commands Adam and Eve to make aprons of fig leaves?

Why are we wearing aprons in the temple?

Should we really be wearing aprons which represent Satanic priesthood?


I'm trying to understand why we obey him and don aprons at his suggestion ...

They don't represent a satanic priesthood. It's made clear as to what they represent.
Remember, Lucifer is the great counterfeiter.

Since they represent "my power and priesthoods" and "my" = Satan, they represent Satanic power and priesthoods? Kind of an a=b and b=c so a=c. Right?

But the aprons we wear don't have anything to do with priesthood, and everything to do with figs and modesty.

[Robin Hood]

It's important to remember we are Adam and Eve as far as the endowment rite is concerned

[tmac]

Could it be because actually the Endowment is (and always has been) just a bunch of bumbling around, stabbing in the dark, based mostly on personal opinions and paradigms mingled with scripture, rather than any clear revelation?

in my view, one of the clearest signs of just where things stand is how many times now the Church has tweaked the endowment, with no end in sight.

Do we really think that a perfect God would engage in this much tweaking of His own endowment?

[endlessQuestions]

Based on my earlier conversation with Niemand on this topic and this thread, I’m just going to start one more new thread on why I think from a logical standpoint it is unwise for any member of the Church to continue attending the endowment. Might not be until a bit later, though.

[Being There]

Could it be because actually the Endowment is (and always has been) just a bunch of bumbling around, stabbing in the dark, based mostly on personal opinions and paradigms mingled with scripture, rather than any clear revelation?

in my view, one of the clearest signs of just where things stand is how many times now the Church has tweaked the endowment, with no end in sight.

Do we really think that a perfect God would engage in this much tweaking of His own endowment?

did you forget to add this to your list.
How Joseph Smith introduced Masonic rituals in the LDS Mormon temple endowment ceremony.

BEWARE THE MORMON ENDOWMENT
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[LDS Physician]

It's important to remember we are Adam and Eve as far as the endowment rite is concerned

Well, I lean towards thinking it's important to remember that Satan instructed them to do something and they did it ... likely something that we, Adam, and Eve probably shouldn't do.

[Original_Intent]

Could it be because actually the Endowment is (and always has been) just a bunch of bumbling around, stabbing in the dark, based mostly on personal opinions and paradigms mingled with scripture, rather than any clear revelation?

in my view, one of the clearest signs of just where things stand is how many times now the Church has tweaked the endowment, with no end in sight.

Do we really think that a perfect God would engage in this much tweaking of His own endowment?

I think the tweaking is a combination of people getting what they ask for, and also the ritual becoming more and more remedial as the learning just isn't happening. Not that God doesn't know how to teach, but because He is giving us every opportunity to avoid the sermons that we will eventually need.

I do appreciate the OP though, iirc it was Adam and Eve that made fig leaves for themselves to hide their nakedness, and H.F. provided the garment made from animals. So it makes sense that having received the garment, that perhaps it should be set aside at the appropriate point in the endowment. I definitely don't see it as Satanic other than it was Adam and Eve trying to hide from God.

[Godislove]

I agree with what Robin Hood said above. We are to consider ourselves as Adam and Eve. They transgressed because they listened to Satan. We like them have all transgressed and sinned. Then we become clothed in different clothing. The endowment is completely about Jesus Christ and points us to Him. He is what sanctifies us and makes us clean again.
Have you been lately? I would highly recommend it.

[Mamabear]

Who is the only person in the temple video wearing an apron?

What does he say that it represents?

Who commands Adam and Eve to make aprons of fig leaves?

Why are we wearing aprons in the temple?

Should we really be wearing aprons which represent Satanic priesthood?


I'm trying to understand why we obey him and don aprons at his suggestion ...

Because that’s what the masons did and the church copied them. It’s satanic and that’s what they wanted.

[Reluctant Watchman]

I agree with what Robin Hood said above. We are to consider ourselves as Adam and Eve. They transgressed because they listened to Satan. We like them have all transgressed and sinned. Then we become clothed in different clothing. The endowment is completely about Jesus Christ and points us to Him. He is what sanctifies us and makes us clean again.
Have you been lately? I would highly recommend it.

The endowment is not completely about Jesus. What you have to commit to do/believe just to get in the door should be of great concern to anyone who studies Christ’s doctrine.

Is there truth? Yes. Are there falsehoods? Yes.

[Niemand]

Based on my earlier conversation with Niemand on this topic and this thread, I’m just going to start one more new thread on why I think from a logical standpoint it is unwise for any member of the Church to continue attending the endowment. Might not be until a bit later, though.

I'm not interested in going. Our current temple president seems a bit of a bureaucrat and I've done all the "work" for near relatives.

I may attend the baptistery but the endowment holds no attraction for me these days.

Getting rid of the canteen was a bad idea (not going to say cafeteria – there was never coffee/café served there!)

[JK4Woods]

….question: “is there no other way..??..”

Answer, (by a liar, and rebellious one, cast out of pre-mortal existence, who is planning on taking over the physical bodies of the mortal kids born to Adam & Eve, therefore has every reason to push Eve into disobeying Elohim):

…”there is no other way…”

And upon Lucifer’s intent, Elohim places “enmity” between the seed of the women, and Lucifer…

(Kinda seems like a chess move. But not necessarily a “plan” as they councilled before..)

[Niemand]

They probably started using aprons because that was around the time they discovered cookery.

[iWriteStuff]

Y’all know it’s literally a Masonic ritual mingled with scripture, right? The warning is right there in the middle.

[Godislove]

I agree with what Robin Hood said above. We are to consider ourselves as Adam and Eve. They transgressed because they listened to Satan. We like them have all transgressed and sinned. Then we become clothed in different clothing. The endowment is completely about Jesus Christ and points us to Him. He is what sanctifies us and makes us clean again.
Have you been lately? I would highly recommend it.

The endowment is not completely about Jesus. What you have to commit to do/believe just to get in the door should be of great concern to anyone who studies Christ’s doctrine.

Is there truth? Yes. Are there falsehoods? Yes.

You're right. I stand corrected. We are also taught clearly about the reality of Satan in the endowment, however, it is not a satanic ceremony and points us to Christ and His Atonement.

[Reluctant Watchman]

I agree with what Robin Hood said above. We are to consider ourselves as Adam and Eve. They transgressed because they listened to Satan. We like them have all transgressed and sinned. Then we become clothed in different clothing. The endowment is completely about Jesus Christ and points us to Him. He is what sanctifies us and makes us clean again.
Have you been lately? I would highly recommend it.

The endowment is not completely about Jesus. What you have to commit to do/believe just to get in the door should be of great concern to anyone who studies Christ’s doctrine.

Is there truth? Yes. Are there falsehoods? Yes.

You're right. I stand corrected. We are also taught clearly about the reality of Satan in the endowment, however, it is not a satanic ceremony and points us to Christ and His Atonement.

The endowment also points you to men and an organization. It is also a place of dead works, and not in a good way. But thats a very in-depth discussion for another time. Not to mention the fact that the temple is no longer a house of learning. A place of learning allows for questions and answers.

[David13]

I agree with what Robin Hood said above. We are to consider ourselves as Adam and Eve. They transgressed because they listened to Satan. We like them have all transgressed and sinned. Then we become clothed in different clothing. The endowment is completely about Jesus Christ and points us to Him. He is what sanctifies us and makes us clean again.
Have you been lately? I would highly recommend it.

The endowment is not completely about Jesus. What you have to commit to do/believe just to get in the door should be of great concern to anyone who studies Christ’s doctrine.

Is there truth? Yes. Are there falsehoods? Yes.

You're right. I stand corrected. We are also taught clearly about the reality of Satan in the endowment, however, it is not a satanic ceremony and points us to Christ and His Atonement.

My experience was that it pointed me to the church. Not to Christ.
dc

[Godislove]

I agree with what Robin Hood said above. We are to consider ourselves as Adam and Eve. They transgressed because they listened to Satan. We like them have all transgressed and sinned. Then we become clothed in different clothing. The endowment is completely about Jesus Christ and points us to Him. He is what sanctifies us and makes us clean again.
Have you been lately? I would highly recommend it.

The endowment is not completely about Jesus. What you have to commit to do/believe just to get in the door should be of great concern to anyone who studies Christ’s doctrine.

Is there truth? Yes. Are there falsehoods? Yes.

You're right. I stand corrected. We are also taught clearly about the reality of Satan in the endowment, however, it is not a satanic ceremony and points us to Christ and His Atonement.

My experience was that it pointed me to the church. Not to Christ.
dc

Christ also does have a true and living church on the earth as testified to in the scriptures and we recieve the necessary ordinances through His True and Living church because it is the only church on the earth that has the proper authority to perform them.
"Priesthood authority had to be restored by those resurrected beings who had held it in mortality. That priesthood authority, together with the keys necessary to direct its operations, are in this Church and no other."

[Shawn Henry]

It's important to remember we are Adam and Eve as far as the endowment rite is concerned

So, if we are Adam and Eve, why don't we do as they did and don coats of skins like the Savior made? Instead, we don an apron, like Satan recommended.

[pho·to·syn·the·sis]

Who is the only person in the temple video wearing an apron?

What does he say that it represents?

Who commands Adam and Eve to make aprons of fig leaves?

Why are we wearing aprons in the temple?

Should we really be wearing aprons which represent Satanic priesthood?


I'm trying to understand why we obey him and don aprons at his suggestion ...

The apron is a representation of trying to cover our sins by the works of our hands. Remember, Lucifer instructs A&E to “hide” and make aprons with earthly (fig leaves) things. It’s the exact opposite of what the Savior asks of us. He instructs us to “come unto Him” and by faith be cleansed. Everyone goes to the veil wearing the apron. It is the only item that is not white. Nothing will be hidden from God.

[Baurak Ale]

It's important to remember we are Adam and Eve as far as the endowment rite is concerned

So, if we are Adam and Eve, why don't we do as they did and don coats of skins like the Savior made? Instead, we don an apron, like Satan recommended.

The endowment is symbolic, an allegory meant to instruct. We are not following satan when we where aprons, we are enacting a rite with symbolic tools. The apron represents, among other things, mortality. When do you take off the apron in the endowment? Never, because the ordinance is meant to impress upon your mind the need to enter into the rest of the Lord while in mortality.

Why don't we wear garments made of skins? We do, symbolically, in the garment placed upon us in the initiatory. The symbolism of this vestment runs even deeper and can provide the endowed with a vast sea of light and truth to reflect upon throughout one's life.

It's really sad that people are so dogmatic and literal in their approach to the temple. I have said it before and I will say it again: here is a KEY—those who turn the heel against Brigham Young being Joseph's truest follower and friend will in time turn the heel against the temple and its ordinances and blessings.

[Shawn Henry]

I have said it before and I will say it again: here is a KEY—those who turn the heel against Brigham Young being Joseph's truest follower and friend will in time turn the heel against the temple and its ordinances and blessings.

There's no indication BY was his truest friend or even a friend at all. No friend of Joseph would launch a decades long campaign of hatred against his wife and the entire Smith family. A true friend wouldn't say Joseph went to Carthage with no light in him. He essentially supported the narrative that Joseph was a fallen prophet.

Brigham did the complete opposite of Joseph far more than he supported him. Joseph let women anoint and heal the sick, he let blacks have the priesthood. BY undercut him and did the opposite. Joseph only gave the priesthood to grown men, BY gave it to boys. Joseph's cannon of scripture was replaced with BY's 1876 canon of scripture and the list goes on.