Al Gore meeting with First Presidency today
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- MercynGrace
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Truth, I'm satisfied with the news blurb as a record of the minutes. Gore asked for a meeting, he gave a 30 minute briefing and then there was a question and answer period.Truth will Prevail wrote:When these types of meetings take place, do you think that the members have some sort of right to know exactly what has taken place in these meetings? (So its not kept as a "secret meeting") I mean, there shoudnt be anything to hide right? Then why cant we know what was discused such as "the minutes" of the meeting?? Are we not a Free and open society?? I dont like these meetings the feeling that comes with it is not a happy warm fuzzy feeling, its more of an empty cold feeling? I just think when high up officials get together in meetings that it should be made public and if you disagree then your saying there is nothing wrong with having these types of meetings then how would you see the Latter day Gadiantons meeting in Bilderburg groups and Bohemian Grove and so on, the world knows they all meet but know one really knows what was discused??? The meeting itself the world always knows about but we never know what went on? Some one please enlighten me on this so i dont have to see it this way? I would rather see it another way if someone can give me a good satisfactory answer?
Any powerful organization or individual is going to be solicited often. Requesting minutes would be like demanding notes of a Tupperware party presentation? Because that's basically what this is. Afterward, the different sides exchange pleasantries in a diplomatic fashion and go their separate ways. This kind of "meeting" goes on in EVERY powerful organization ALL THE TIME! In fact, if you are on a board or in any position of influence or fiscal responsibiity, these solicitations can become a major distraction as you are compelled to smile and nod through snooze-worthy sales pitches day in and day out.
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I do not mind the private meetings between the brethren but anyone who is outside of the Church who has held and still does to some degree a high ranking position thats meets in private then yes i do not get good feelings from it, its NOT the Brethren i am worried about, its Al Gore. So taking this same principle then what would you say if the 1st Presidency attended Bilderburg or Bohemian or the CFR? Would we not have a right to say as Moroni has said "the lord does not work in secret". Ether 8. What is there to hide thats private? Why cant we know? Is this not the same thing when we all go mad because Bush or Obama or Cheney or who ever attends some secret (Private) meeting and then we shout out about our freedoms and the constitution and so on....... but its okay for the politicians to meet in private with religious leaders, when ever they want and we will never be allowed to know what was discussed??? Church matters YES there is and should be private meetings but as soon as politicinas get involved in the mix then it should be an open society so there is no room for rumours and speculation which this whole topic is on, no one knows why he is meeting with them an for what purpose??? You can Guess and flower it up as much as we like but we do not know for sure, and this my brothers and sisters is a problem. If we did not live in such a world with secret combinations all around us, wars and so on then i could understand, it just doesnt seem very wise when we are surrounded by conspiracy everyday, then to hold a meeting in private and never tell the public what went on, this cannot be one rule for you but another rule for everyone else??? We ALL abide by the same principles and rules or society will not work?
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Thanks jonny, you understood my tongue in cheek. I also am pro choice. I just differ about where I think the choice is and it isn't after you are pregnant.jonnybreeves wrote:Good one.Nan wrote:I believe in Global warming. Does that make me evil? I think Jesus is going to make it dang hot for the wicked.
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I hope President Monson tells Al Gore 'thanks, but no thanks'. I think the First Presidency must be fully aware for the Gadiantons and what they are trying to do.
I agree that stuff like this shouldn't be done in secret, especially when the 1st Presidency is asked to meet the leader of a religious sect such as Al Gore's climate change & earth worship religion.
I agree that stuff like this shouldn't be done in secret, especially when the 1st Presidency is asked to meet the leader of a religious sect such as Al Gore's climate change & earth worship religion.
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Also if Al Gore holds no sway and no power at all to any degree what so ever, then do you think i could just call up the first presidency and ask to visit them in a meeting that the contents of it would be kept, private, secret, private, secret,(Whatever word you wanna use??) and i could explain to them my issues of this world and where it is we are heading, do you think i would be given that time??? Please, do not fall for all the Gadiantons sway and looking like pure white sheep, when really we know who Al Gore is and who he really represents. There maybe a time when the Church has to say to all these idiots that want and desire to meet with the brethren NO! (Depending what the purpose is??) Al Gore in his official standing today is no diffrent to YOU or ME?? So how is it he can get such a meeting??? PEOPLE these days it not WHO you are its WHO YOU KNOW, and from this thats not right nor is it fair.
Anyway this meeting could just end up being a good laugh for the First Presidency knowing what they know, they probably sit there listening at his sales pitch and looking at each other laughing their heads off inside at such a ridiculous sales pitch, there for there being NO need to announce the contents of the meeting?
Anyway this meeting could just end up being a good laugh for the First Presidency knowing what they know, they probably sit there listening at his sales pitch and looking at each other laughing their heads off inside at such a ridiculous sales pitch, there for there being NO need to announce the contents of the meeting?
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Question who Al Gore is representing (his business?), since technically, he is not a politician any longer.
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It sounds like they'll respond to his request by pledging support on the things we can agree with (i.e. conservation and stewardship) without supporting laws that limit freedom or recognize the inevitability of global climate change (is it cooling this decade?).
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First of all, the church always offers proper respect to presidents and dignitaries. It's politeness and we're good at it. Secondly, he wants to talk about the environment. The church is not anti environment, I believe they would meet with anyone in such an influential position. Granted, I don't believe that our leaders fall for all this garbage, but we do want to be good stewards, and it doesn't hurt anyone to have a meeting and to discuss ways to cut environmental impact in reasonable ways.Truth will Prevail wrote:Also if Al Gore holds no sway and no power at all to any degree what so ever, then do you think i could just call up the first presidency and ask to visit them in a meeting that the contents of it would be kept, private, secret, private, secret,(Whatever word you wanna use??) and i could explain to them my issues of this world and where it is we are heading, do you think i would be given that time??? Please, do not fall for all the Gadiantons sway and looking like pure white sheep, when really we know who Al Gore is and who he really represents. There maybe a time when the Church has to say to all these idiots that want and desire to meet with the brethren NO! (Depending what the purpose is??) Al Gore in his official standing today is no diffrent to YOU or ME?? So how is it he can get such a meeting??? PEOPLE these days it not WHO you are its WHO YOU KNOW, and from this thats not right nor is it fair.
Anyway this meeting could just end up being a good laugh for the First Presidency knowing what they know, they probably sit there listening at his sales pitch and looking at each other laughing their heads off inside at such a ridiculous sales pitch, there for there being NO need to announce the contents of the meeting?
Church leaders having a meeting with a former VP is just that. I'm polite to the JWs too, but I'm not buying what they are selling.
- MercynGrace
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Exactly. You catch more flies with honey. There are millions of people who admire Al Gore. Of those, some will surely have their interest piqued when they see the church leaders were willing to give their 'hero' a fair hearing and treat him with civility and courtesy. Some, who have believed the church was close-minded or bigoted, may gain an entirely new perception. Isn't that worth 30 minutes?Church leaders having a meeting with a former VP is just that. I'm polite to the JWs too, but I'm not buying what they are selling.
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Amen! Bishopric meetings or Stake Presidency meetings are one thing, but a meeting between the First Presidency and Al Gore (a former V.P. of the U.S. who's trotting around the planet promoting a fraud for money and even more power and control for governments) is secret? I hope we don't hear anything during Conference about doing our part to help save the environment or that we need to be receptive and open to new taxes to help combat the threat.English Saint wrote:I hope President Monson tells Al Gore 'thanks, but no thanks'. I think the First Presidency must be fully aware for the Gadiantons and what they are trying to do.
I agree that stuff like this shouldn't be done in secret, especially when the 1st Presidency is asked to meet the leader of a religious sect such as Al Gore's climate change & earth worship religion.
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First Cheney, now Gore.
I have no doubt the meeting was under the auspices of global warming. I'm sure other messages were conveyed. The Illuminati don't run the LDS Church like they do the others. Therefore their wishes need to be conveyed in other ways.
"Do this or your 501c exemption goes bye-bye..."
I have no doubt the meeting was under the auspices of global warming. I'm sure other messages were conveyed. The Illuminati don't run the LDS Church like they do the others. Therefore their wishes need to be conveyed in other ways.
"Do this or your 501c exemption goes bye-bye..."
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watchout for man bear pig, he IS the number one threat to the world today...... I'm really , really serial!!jbalm wrote:I think he was trying to warn the brethren about Manbearpig.
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SALT LAKE CITY 2 April 2009 Former Vice President Al Gore had a brief courtesy meeting with President Thomas S. Monson and then met with Elder M. Russell Ballard, Elder Quentin L. Cook and other members of the Church’s Public Affairs Committee Thursday evening. Mr. Gore gave a 30-minute presentation and expressed his concerns about CO2 emissions, followed by questions and answers.
http://newsroom.lds.org/ldsnewsroom/eng ... th-al-gore
http://newsroom.lds.org/ldsnewsroom/eng ... th-al-gore
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What could Al Gore (or his handlers) possibly expect the Church to do about C02 emissions?
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I don't think they expect the Church to do anything except tow the line when called upon to do so. In others words don't come out in direct opposition to them. And when they start taxing us and changing the way we live because of this GW nonsense to continue to to do what the Church has always told their people, follow the president and the leaders and don't make waves.lundbaek wrote:What could Al Gore (or his handlers) possibly expect the Church to do about C02 emissions?
