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We've been warned time and time again. If we're not ready, it's our own fault.

I like to read this guy - great health info. However, I didn't appreciate him calling everyone cowards, meanwhile relocating himself to Ecuador. Sounds like Brave Sir Robin to me...

Bravely bold Sir Robin
Rode forth from Camelot.
He was not afraid to die,
Oh brave Sir Robin.
He was not at all afraid
To be killed in nasty ways.
Brave, brave, brave, brave Sir Robin.

He was not in the least bit scared
To be mashed into a pulp.
Or to have his eyes gouged out,
And his elbows broken.
To have his kneecaps split
And his body burned away,
And his limbs all hacked and mangled
Brave Sir Robin.

His head smashed in
And his heart cut out
And his liver removed
And his bowls unplugged
And his nostrils raped
And his bottom burnt off
And his --

"That's... that's enough music for now lads,
*** there's dirty work afoot*** ???."

Brave Sir Robin ran away.
("No!")
Bravely ran away away.
("I didn't!")
When danger reared it's ugly head,
He bravely turned his tail and fled.
("no!")
Yes, brave Sir Robin turned about
("I didn't!")
And gallantly he chickened out.

****Bravely**** taking ("I never did!") to his feet,
He beat a very brave retreat.
("all lies!")
Bravest of the braaaave, Sir Robin!
("I never!")

It makes me wonder if this is a part of the Biden and Powell comments of the "crisis" and "being tested in the first 6 months." Biden said that we would have to trust their decisions and remember the feelings (of euphoria I'm sure) that we (we as in the majority of the people) had during the election process because we are going to wonder what the heck the government is doing. (Obviously I'm interpreting what I heard from his statement.) People will wonder what happened to their nation when they see the 20000 troops deployed in their own cities and maybe even Canadian or UN troops because the banks are on holiday and have failed. I talk to some family members still about all this and they have no clue still as to what is going on. We have been carefully lulled into a sense of security with the notion that nothing will happen to us here because it's America. Well wake up people our nation is on the brink of destruction. I am very sad for my country and I just have to wonder if our founders are looking upon us weeping.

My only sense of security is in following the Prophet and following the promptings from the Spirit confirming truths to me for my family. I know that the Lord will deliver His people and we all better buckle up for the ride of our lives!
I just want to get it all over with so I can have my pet shark in the Millennium!

NO wonder he moved from the US, he has no clue about anything when he makes a stupid statement like this.

But in fact, public demonstrations are a sign of a healthy Democratic process. And Democracy is alive and well in Ecuador (with the usual level of corruption you find in any democracy).

(That is where I stopped reading and started laughing.)

Please, don't try to educate me if you are too stupid to know the Democracy is one of the worst forms of government available. I would rather live in a Monarchy than a Democracy. I would rather live under Shariah law than Democracy. Democracy is inches away from Anarchy.


All I have to say to him is have fun with your Democracy... I'll enjoy and defend my Republic.

LukeAir2008 wrote:

Spence wrote:NO wonder he moved from the US, he has no clue about anything when he makes a stupid statement like this.

But in fact, public demonstrations are a sign of a healthy Democratic process. And Democracy is alive and well in Ecuador (with the usual level of corruption you find in any democracy).

(That is where I stopped reading and started laughing.)

Please, don't try to educate me if you are too stupid to know the Democracy is one of the worst forms of government available. I would rather live in a Monarchy than a Democracy. I would rather live under Shariah law than Democracy. Democracy is inches away from Anarchy.


All I have to say to him is have fun with your Democracy... I'll enjoy and defend my Republic.

You're wrong. Democracy is not the worst form of government. The danger of democracy is that it allows the majority, if they so choose, to vote in systems of tyranny and oppression. In a Constitutional Republic, such as the US, democracy is limited to choices which do not violate basic freedoms and rights. It would seem that the Constitution has already been suspended with the signing of the Patriot Act. Under a Monarchy or Dictatorship you have no rights and no freedoms. How can this be preferable to democracy?

I would rather have the freedom to choose in a democracy, the freedom to choose a Constitution for example, than to have no freedom under a Monarchy or Dictatorship.

Agreed. I think you misunderstood what he was trying to say Spence... when there are public demonstrations, people picketing, civil unrest, etc., that means the democratic process is working since people are still free to do so and it's 'healthy' because it can lead to positive change if and when corruption runs rampant inside government. Personally, I am not holding out any hope for real change in our nation's capital because big money powers and modern-day LDG's run the show and control everything and it's going to take an act of divine intervention to overthrow the one world government, one world currency and one world bank they want, especially considering how many apathetic and ignorant sheep there are in the U.S. The level of immorality, greed, corruption and lust for power and control in DC is beyond repair and it may already be too late to avoid a collapse of our currency and economy because of what they've engineered... especially the 'Fed'.

Democracy is always replaced quickly with another form of government, usually Oligarchy. Always. I understand what he is trying to say that we are a nation of cowards. Quietly outraged and doing nothing about it.

America essentially turned into a Democracy in the early years of last century, and was quickly replaced with a hidden Oligarchy. We still have the foundations for good government though. And Cleon's own interpretation of Revelation says that the good people will return to America, so why leave?

You can go Jesse and leave, but you will be much more safe here in Utah than you will anywhere else in the world. That is a promise.