Former Stake President transitions to female

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He also was Chief Architect for the church.

After leading LDS congregations and designing Mormon temples, this Utah dad is building a new life — as a woman
Despite excommunication, former stake president who used to design temples still believes and still attends church.
https://archive.sltrib.com/article.php? ... type=cmsid


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Old news.
I wonder if she believes in the modern inclusive LDSCo or the LDSCo of her youth?
Judging by the screenshot, she was a youth in the SWK / ETB era...

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Did the interviewer ask him how he messed up his family, or the faith and lives of members from his stake where he served?
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He's not a woman - never will be, no matter how many surgeries he gets or hormones he takes. People shouldn't enable this crap by referring to males as "she" or "her".

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Nuts.

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Nut-less, actually

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EmmaLee wrote: January 24th, 2023, 12:25 pm He's not a woman - never will be, no matter how many surgeries he gets or hormones he takes. People shouldn't enable this crap by referring to males as "she" or "her".
Careful, that kind of talk will get you canceled like JK Rowling ;)

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I have in-laws that were in his ward when that all went down. They told us all about it, and how awkward and uncomfortable it made everyone. Especially when he started showing up to relief society shortly after having been their stake president.

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crabman wrote: January 24th, 2023, 3:54 pm I have in-laws that were in his ward when that all went down. They told us all about it, and how awkward and uncomfortable it made everyone. Especially when he started showing up to relief society shortly after having been their stake president.
And they let him?

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Yassssss Queen! I mean Stake President.

Some trees are already rotten at the root and are merely waiting for a strong wind to take them down.

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crabman wrote: January 24th, 2023, 3:54 pm I have in-laws that were in his ward when that all went down. They told us all about it, and how awkward and uncomfortable it made everyone. Especially when he started showing up to relief society shortly after having been their stake president.
That's a mtg I wouldn't be able to sit through

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tribrac wrote: January 24th, 2023, 12:15 pm Did the interviewer ask him how he messed up his family, or the faith and lives of members from his stake where he served?
Imagine how Elizabeth Smart felt after being kidnapped, raped many, many times, finally found, and the church treated her like a used can of tomatoes, and just when she is getting back to normal, she finds out her dad thinks he is a girl. That is a messed up set of circumstances.

This behavior should not be encouraged.

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crabman wrote: January 24th, 2023, 3:54 pm I have in-laws that were in his ward when that all went down. They told us all about it, and how awkward and uncomfortable it made everyone. Especially when he started showing up to relief society shortly after having been their stake president.
Some friends lived in a Stake where this happened. Not sure if this is the same stake, or if has happened more than once.

Friends said it messed a lot of people up. My friends moved.
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Obrien wrote: January 24th, 2023, 3:42 pm Nut-less, actually
Boo

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Dehlin eats this kind of crap up. He’s as sick as they are for promoting it.

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I'm surprised no one mentions Deuteronomy 23:1 . It is worth comparing translations here. Some of them are clearer than the KJV on this one.

https://biblehub.com/deuteronomy/23-1.htm

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Rumpelstiltskin wrote: January 24th, 2023, 5:41 pm
Obrien wrote: January 24th, 2023, 3:42 pm Nut-less, actually
Boo
Boobs actually…

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Reluctant Watchman wrote: January 24th, 2023, 6:55 pm
Rumpelstiltskin wrote: January 24th, 2023, 5:41 pm
Obrien wrote: January 24th, 2023, 3:42 pm Nut-less, actually
Boo
Boobs actually…
Boo…man boobs. 😬

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Niemand wrote: January 24th, 2023, 6:43 pm I'm surprised no one mentions Deuteronomy 23:1 . It is worth comparing translations here. Some of them are clearer than the KJV on this one.

https://biblehub.com/deuteronomy/23-1.htm
Kind of harsh (particularly the verse after it), but one thing I find interesting about it is that even with the male genitalia removed, a man is still a man in God's view.

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EmmaLee wrote: January 24th, 2023, 12:25 pm He's not a woman - never will be, no matter how many surgeries he gets or hormones he takes. People shouldn't enable this crap by referring to males as "she" or "her".
I agree he isn't a woman and never will be....lol...but what about the visual of him as a woman? I mean it's pretty ( long pause as I choose my words carefully) plain he isn't all that attractive.....as a woman....lol....just sayin.....hideous prolly would have fit better but I'm trying to be generous......

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Obrien wrote: January 24th, 2023, 3:42 pm Nut-less, actually
Bahahahahaha

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Man: "I feel like a woman!"

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Fred wrote: January 24th, 2023, 5:23 pm
tribrac wrote: January 24th, 2023, 12:15 pm Did the interviewer ask him how he messed up his family, or the faith and lives of members from his stake where he served?
Imagine how Elizabeth Smart felt after being kidnapped, raped many, many times, finally found, and the church treated her like a used can of tomatoes, and just when she is getting back to normal, she finds out her dad thinks he is a girl. That is a messed up set of circumstances.

This behavior should not be encouraged.
Wait- Elizabeth Smart was treated like a used can of tomatoes by the church? I have not heard that.
I didn’t know her dad thought he was a girl either. I thought he ‘just’ said he was gay.

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Wolfwoman wrote: January 25th, 2023, 3:30 am
Fred wrote: January 24th, 2023, 5:23 pm
tribrac wrote: January 24th, 2023, 12:15 pm Did the interviewer ask him how he messed up his family, or the faith and lives of members from his stake where he served?
Imagine how Elizabeth Smart felt after being kidnapped, raped many, many times, finally found, and the church treated her like a used can of tomatoes, and just when she is getting back to normal, she finds out her dad thinks he is a girl. That is a messed up set of circumstances.

This behavior should not be encouraged.
Wait- Elizabeth Smart was treated like a used can of tomatoes by the church? I have not heard that.
I didn’t know her dad thought he was a girl either. I thought he ‘just’ said he was gay.
Her dad came out as gay, not as a woman. But this headline…. :shock:

“ Elizabeth Smart's father says coming out as gay was his 2nd 'miracle'”

https://www.today.com/news/elizabeth-sm ... is-t169471

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Reluctant Watchman wrote: January 25th, 2023, 6:54 am
Wolfwoman wrote: January 25th, 2023, 3:30 am
Fred wrote: January 24th, 2023, 5:23 pm
tribrac wrote: January 24th, 2023, 12:15 pm Did the interviewer ask him how he messed up his family, or the faith and lives of members from his stake where he served?
Imagine how Elizabeth Smart felt after being kidnapped, raped many, many times, finally found, and the church treated her like a used can of tomatoes, and just when she is getting back to normal, she finds out her dad thinks he is a girl. That is a messed up set of circumstances.

This behavior should not be encouraged.
Wait- Elizabeth Smart was treated like a used can of tomatoes by the church? I have not heard that.
I didn’t know her dad thought he was a girl either. I thought he ‘just’ said he was gay.
Her dad came out as gay, not as a woman. But this headline…. :shock:

“ Elizabeth Smart's father says coming out as gay was his 2nd 'miracle'”

https://www.today.com/news/elizabeth-sm ... is-t169471
:shock:
Some LDS have weird ideas of what a miracle is.
And what the ??? He said coming out of the closet was more difficult than what Elizabeth went through? Really?!

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